Re: [Dspace-tech] Hardware recommendations

2008-05-22 Thread Bram Luyten
Hello Jim,

we have installed and manage some very large DSpaces, but also a few
moderate ones. An example of a large installation:

http://lirias.kuleuven.be holds around 130.000 items, of which only around
2500 of them contain full-text. This asset store is around 7GB. It's mainly
academic research output (papers, conference presentations, ...). So
currently, the average size of a bitstream is around 2.8MB. But this will be
very different if your repository is oriented towards datasets, audio or
video.

Concerning processing power and memory: the system currently has around 1000
unique visitors daily. There are 4000 e-persons. During office hours, we
experience an average of 4 concurrent logged-in users, performing
submissions, etc (= intensive on database and indexes). The tomcat has been
given 2GB of memory, while the whole system has 3.5GB of RAM. This doesn't
really cover the total load, as we use swapping, but it's enough to keep the
system running. A recommendation: don't cut down on disk speed, you will
need 15.000 rpm disks.

The server has 1 physical dual-core processor, with hyper threading (so
actually 4 virtual processors). In peak times, this is becoming a bottle
neck.

If you could illustrate the purposes of your installation, or the estimated
number of users, I could provide you with a specific case, that possibly
more closly matches what you're looking at.

with kindest regards,

Bram Luyten

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On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 4:33 PM, Jim Price [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Hello,

 We are currently running a test instance on a Sun Enterprise 450 running
 Solaris 10. We are currently looking into new hardware for a production
 environment.
 We would like to find out if anyone is willing to share their experiences
 with hardware?

 What platform would you recommend for a school starting with dspace?
 What are you using for hardware?
 What do you store?
 How big is your data storage?
 How much growth did you see in your first year of use?
 What kind of loads are you experiencing?


 Thanks,
 Jim



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Re: [Dspace-tech] Hardware recommendations

2008-05-22 Thread Bram Luyten
Dear Cory,

my apologies for not being clear enough.
For the asset store, you're fine with slower disks  tier 3 storage
products. But it's indeed more particular the postgres and lucene I/O load
that require fast disk access. You're totally right.

best regards,

Bram Luyten

On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 3:14 PM, Cory Snavely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Our experience is markedly different, and I'm particularly struck by the
 comment about 15Krpm disk.

 We use 15Krpm SCSI disk in RAID 1 for Postgres, but we use SATA RAID 6
 for the assetstore and do not see DSpace I/O-bound against it. (FYI
 we're working on transitioning our assetstore to a Sun Honeycomb.)

 I'm not sure your units are correct for the assetstore--7GB?--but if so,
 sure, a little space on your 15Krpm disk is fine. If you mean 7TB, then
 you're talking considerable expense over SATA that I am pretty confident
 would *not* give any benefit. I/O against the assetstore you is low
 volume sequential read and occasional high-volume sequential write, and
 that is 100% consistent with tier 3 type storage products and what
 SATA RAID does best. In fact I would think it would be perfectly
 reasonable to put the assetstore on NAS.

 FWIW we are currently deploying a replacement server for DSpace; it's a
 dual quad-core Xeon server w/ 8GB RAM with 15Krpm internal SAS disk in
 RAID 1 and 9TB SATA RAID 6. Our experience has shown that we need to
 handle heavy multiprocessing Postgres load as well as large memory
 allocation and that aside from Postgres storage I/O requirements are
 relatively light.

 Cory Snavely
 University of Michigan Library IT Core Services

 On Thu, 2008-05-22 at 14:54 +0200, Bram Luyten wrote:
  Hello Jim,
 
  we have installed and manage some very large DSpaces, but also a few
  moderate ones. An example of a large installation:
 
  http://lirias.kuleuven.be holds around 130.000 items, of which only
  around 2500 of them contain full-text. This asset store is around 7GB.
  It's mainly academic research output (papers, conference
  presentations, ...). So currently, the average size of a bitstream is
  around 2.8MB. But this will be very different if your repository is
  oriented towards datasets, audio or video.
 
  Concerning processing power and memory: the system currently has
  around 1000 unique visitors daily. There are 4000 e-persons. During
  office hours, we experience an average of 4 concurrent logged-in
  users, performing submissions, etc (= intensive on database and
  indexes). The tomcat has been given 2GB of memory, while the whole
  system has 3.5GB of RAM. This doesn't really cover the total load, as
  we use swapping, but it's enough to keep the system running. A
  recommendation: don't cut down on disk speed, you will need 15.000 rpm
  disks.
 
  The server has 1 physical dual-core processor, with hyper threading
  (so actually 4 virtual processors). In peak times, this is becoming a
  bottle neck.
 
  If you could illustrate the purposes of your installation, or the
  estimated number of users, I could provide you with a specific case,
  that possibly more closly matches what you're looking at.
 
  with kindest regards,
 
  Bram Luyten
 
  --
  @mire NV
  Romeinse Straat 18
  3001 Heverlee
  Belgium
  +32 2 888 29 56
 
  http://www.atmire.com - Institutional Repository Solutions
  http://www.togather.eu - Before getting together, get [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 4:33 PM, Jim Price
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello,
 
  We are currently running a test instance on a Sun Enterprise
  450 running Solaris 10. We are currently looking into new
  hardware for a production environment.
  We would like to find out if anyone is willing to share their
  experiences with hardware?
 
  What platform would you recommend for a school starting with
  dspace?
  What are you using for hardware?
  What do you store?
  How big is your data storage?
  How much growth did you see in your first year of use?
  What kind of loads are you experiencing?
 
 
  Thanks,
  Jim
 
 
 
 
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[Dspace-tech] Hardware recommendations

2008-05-21 Thread Jim Price
Hello,

We are currently running a test instance on a Sun Enterprise 450 running 
Solaris 10. We are currently looking into new hardware for a production 
environment.
We would like to find out if anyone is willing to share their experiences with 
hardware?

What platform would you recommend for a school starting with dspace? 
What are you using for hardware? 
What do you store?
How big is your data storage?
How much growth did you see in your first year of use?
What kind of loads are you experiencing?


Thanks,
Jim
 


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