Re: [Dspace-tech] Video files in DSpace

2008-11-25 Thread Jason Stirnaman
Ruby,
I'm guessing what your IT person meant to say was streaming over HTTP, also 
known as progressive download.  This is generally not as good as streaming 
from a dedicated media server like Helix or Flash server, but it may suit your 
purpose.  And you should be able to use progressive download with your 
DSpace-archived content.  If you do not have a streaming media server 
available, then I would recommend converting your video to Flash and use 
progressive download.  I'm not intentionally promoting Flash, but here's a 
pretty good explanation of the differences: 
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flash/articles/video_guide_02.html .  Since, it 
looks like you're a Windows shop this may be helpful:  
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/compare/webservvstreamserv.aspx 
Using a streaming media server offers better performance, but then your content 
delivery is typically separated from your archiving.  You'll want to consider 
how or if you'll archive your video in DSpace if you're hosting it on streaming 
media server.
Serving video is a frequent topic of conversation (see 
http://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=videol=dspace-tech%40lists.sourceforge.net)
 on the DSpace lists and there's no silver bullet.  
Also, NITLE, a non-profit DSpace service provider, recently offered a workshop 
on streaming media in DSpace: 
http://www.nitle.org/www/events/841-dspace-virtual-user-community-meeting-3  
May be worth checking out.

Jason


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 On 11/25/2008 at 12:37 AM, in message
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi!
 
 We would like to upload video files that are produced for the department and
 ideally we would like to archive into the Institution's established DSpace
 instance.
 
 The department's IT people are concerned that the size of the video files 
 could
 cause a major problem with the government's internet traffic (eg cause an
 outage), especially if too many people attempt to access at the same time.  
 We
 currently have one video file on DSpace which is in .wmv format.  The .wmv
 format is not seen as being compact enough to minimise the impact of video 
 files
 (in DSpace) on the government Internet.
 
 A suggestion from our IT person has been streaming HTML as it has a small
 footprint which would make it ideal for this exercise. I don't know what
 streaming HTML is and if it is recommended to work with DSpace.
 
 Is there someone out there who can enlighten me as to what streaming HTML is 
 and
 if it will work in archiving video files in DSpace?
 
 Thanks very much.
 
 Ruby Lindberg
 Electronic Services Librarian
 Northern Territory Department of Health  Community Services
 Northern Territory Government
 www.nt.gov.au/health 
 PO Box 40596, Casuarina, NT
 0811 
   
 
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Re: [Dspace-tech] Video files in DSpace

2008-11-25 Thread Bram Luyten
Hi Ruby,

you are pinpointing two important issues regarding offering online access to
video files:
1) The video files, in wmv format are too large. As a result, downloading
takes a long time for users and the process weighs on the available
bandwidth (both at the user and server side)
2) An infrastructure might be unable to offer more than a certain number of
simultaneous downloads.

Using
a streaming server  video player is primarily a solution for the
first issue. To offer new video's through your streaming server 
player, the files first need to be converted to a streaming format,
for instance FLV (Flash Video).
Flash Video files can be delivered in several different ways:

   - Streamed via RTMP
   to the Flash Player using the Flash Media Server, VCS,
ElectroServer, Wowza Pro, WebORB for .NET or the open source Red5
server.
   - Progressive download via HTTP. This method uses ActionScript to
include an externally hosted Flash Video file client-side for
playback.
   However, unlike streaming using RTMP, HTTP streaming does not
support real-time broadcasting. Streaming via HTTP requires a custom
player and the injection of specific Flash Video metadata containing
the exact starting position in bytes and timecode of each keyframe.
Using this specific information, a custom Flash Video player can
request any part of the Flash Video file starting at a specified
keyframe.

You can determine a fixed bitrate for the converted movies. This will mean
that resolution and quality will be scaled down. An example bitrate is
600kb/sec (this is equal to 75kB/sec ... virtually any client broadband
connection is able to view the files fluently.

The biggest advantage for users, is that they are able to start viewing
immediately, and that they are not required to wait until the full movie is
downloaded. In addition to that, they are able to jump to a certain point
on the video's timeline, and streaming will continue from there.

To make the bridge to the second issue: multiple users viewing
simultaneously always has an impact on the bandwidth, available to your
server. But by using a streaming server  viewer, the bandwidth requirements
per client are fixed, while with normal downloading, one client could
drain the bandwidth with very high download speeds.

To make this clear through an example:
If your server has a 100mbit bandwidth connection, you are able to support
170 simultaneous viewers.  However, if you would offer the videos as
downloadable files, and if you have users with 8mbit connections, this would
mean that you would only be able to serve 12 clients, who are fully using
their own 8mbit connections.

If you are interested in implementing a streaming solution for your DSpace,
@mire offers a DSpace add-on module for streaming video (and audio), please
see http://atmire.com/audiovisual.php. Several streaming servers and players
are possible but the most common setup is using a flash video player and the
Adobe Streaming Server (for Flash video).

with best regards,

Bram Luyten  Lieven Droogmans


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On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 7:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Hi!

 We would like to upload video files that are produced for the department
 and
 ideally we would like to archive into the Institution's established DSpace
 instance.

 The department's IT people are concerned that the size of the video files
 could
 cause a major problem with the government's internet traffic (eg cause an
 outage), especially if too many people attempt to access at the same time.
  We
 currently have one video file on DSpace which is in .wmv format.  The .wmv
 format is not seen as being compact enough to minimise the impact of video
 files
 (in DSpace) on the government Internet.

 A suggestion from our IT person has been streaming HTML as it has a small
 footprint which would make it ideal for this exercise. I don't know what
 streaming HTML is and if it is recommended to work with DSpace.

 Is there someone out there who can enlighten me as to what streaming HTML
 is and
 if it will work in archiving video files in DSpace?

 Thanks very much.

 Ruby Lindberg
 Electronic Services Librarian
 Northern Territory Department of Health  Community Services
 Northern Territory Government
 www.nt.gov.au/health
 PO Box 40596, Casuarina, NT

 0811

 Building 4, Royal Darwin Hospital, TIWI, NT 0810
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Ph: +61 8 8922 7913
 Fax: +61 8 8922 

 Librarian on Call (DHCS staff)
 Library Catalogue
 eLibrary a new service replacing CROC for DHCS staff - login using your
 ePass
 username and password




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[Dspace-tech] Video files in DSpace

2008-11-24 Thread Ruby . Lindberg

Hi!

We would like to upload video files that are produced for the department and
ideally we would like to archive into the Institution's established DSpace
instance.

The department's IT people are concerned that the size of the video files could
cause a major problem with the government's internet traffic (eg cause an
outage), especially if too many people attempt to access at the same time.  We
currently have one video file on DSpace which is in .wmv format.  The .wmv
format is not seen as being compact enough to minimise the impact of video files
(in DSpace) on the government Internet.

A suggestion from our IT person has been streaming HTML as it has a small
footprint which would make it ideal for this exercise. I don't know what
streaming HTML is and if it is recommended to work with DSpace.

Is there someone out there who can enlighten me as to what streaming HTML is and
if it will work in archiving video files in DSpace?

Thanks very much.

Ruby Lindberg
Electronic Services Librarian
Northern Territory Department of Health  Community Services
Northern Territory Government
www.nt.gov.au/health
PO Box 40596, Casuarina, NT
0811   

Building 4, Royal Darwin Hospital, TIWI, NT 0810
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ph: +61 8 8922 7913
Fax: +61 8 8922 

Librarian on Call (DHCS staff)
Library Catalogue
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