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- Original Message - From: Fred Souto Maior [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Scott Manthe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 6:26 AM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] 7O1YGF License? Hello Scott: 1) You can't tell me what I have to door not to do. I1m not trying to change your mind. I'm expressing my oppinion and I'm free to do that and NOBODY can stop me to say what I think. 2) I have already credited ALL ENTITIES on my DXCC. I have already worked all them the good ones and the bad ones. So I'm not complaining about the ones I don't have because I have ALL THEM.. 3) I'm not going to find another hobby because I like this one very much. And it's because I like it very much, that I'm trying to make it better and fair. 4) You are a very rude man. See a doctor. Fred - PY7ZZ - Original Message - From: Scott Manthe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 3:45 AM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] 7O1YGF License? The fact that Ed didn't get a bullet to the head is all the proof of authorization needed. He had a beam antenna in a country where no citizen is even allowed access to the internet or long distance phone service. If Ed didn't have authorization, he wouldn't have made it out of the country. North Korea is a far different situation than anywhere else on Earth and if you can't get past your petty jealousies to undestand that, then maybe you should give up DXing. Ed didn't need to produce a license, because there is no licensng body in North Korea, because there are no provisions for any civilian radio services in North Korea at all. No commercial radio, no CB, no FRS, no TV and no amateur radio. No radio services means no licensing body. Understand this? That's why Ed has no papers. Quit complaining about the ones you don't have or the ones that you have that don't count and work the ones that come along and hope they eventually count. DXing isn't fair! Deal with it and move along or find another hobby. Just quit whining! 73, Scott, N9AA - Original Message - From: Fred Souto Maior [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ron Notarius [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dx-chat@njdxa.org Cc: Mome Z32ZM [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] 7O1YGF License? Yes Ron it should be good if the same criteria could be also used with the P5 operations. No papers no credit. If P5 was approved without papers why 7O1YGF need to send any kind of papers to be accepted ?? That!s the point in evidence here as far as I know. Did you or anybody in this list ever saw any authorization, any licence any papers from North Korea authorities for any of the P5 operations ??? Fred - PY7ZZ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 04/03/05 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 04/03/05 Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] 7O1YGF License?
Hello Scott: 1) You can't tell me what I have to door not to do. I1m not trying to change your mind. I'm expressing my oppinion and I'm free to do that and NOBODY can stop me to say what I think. 2) I have already credited ALL ENTITIES on my DXCC. I have already worked all them the good ones and the bad ones. So I'm not complaining about the ones I don't have because I have ALL THEM.. 3) I'm not going to find another hobby because I like this one very much. And it's because I like it very much, that I'm trying to make it better and fair. 4) You are a very rude man. See a doctor. Fred - PY7ZZ - Original Message - From: Scott Manthe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 3:45 AM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] 7O1YGF License? The fact that Ed didn't get a bullet to the head is all the proof of authorization needed. He had a beam antenna in a country where no citizen is even allowed access to the internet or long distance phone service. If Ed didn't have authorization, he wouldn't have made it out of the country. North Korea is a far different situation than anywhere else on Earth and if you can't get past your petty jealousies to undestand that, then maybe you should give up DXing. Ed didn't need to produce a license, because there is no licensng body in North Korea, because there are no provisions for any civilian radio services in North Korea at all. No commercial radio, no CB, no FRS, no TV and no amateur radio. No radio services means no licensing body. Understand this? That's why Ed has no papers. Quit complaining about the ones you don't have or the ones that you have that don't count and work the ones that come along and hope they eventually count. DXing isn't fair! Deal with it and move along or find another hobby. Just quit whining! 73, Scott, N9AA - Original Message - From: Fred Souto Maior [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ron Notarius [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dx-chat@njdxa.org Cc: Mome Z32ZM [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] 7O1YGF License? Yes Ron it should be good if the same criteria could be also used with the P5 operations. No papers no credit. If P5 was approved without papers why 7O1YGF need to send any kind of papers to be accepted ?? That!s the point in evidence here as far as I know. Did you or anybody in this list ever saw any authorization, any licence any papers from North Korea authorities for any of the P5 operations ??? Fred - PY7ZZ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 04/03/05 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 04/03/05 Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] 7O1YGF License?
Remember the rules of this reflector folks. Personal attacks are not permitted, and some recent replies have approached that line. Please keep your replies to the reflector civil. No personal insults. 73, ron wn3vaw administrator, dx chat Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] 7O1YGF License?
I don't want to start any type of political war, but if I'm not mistaken I believe Ed was asked to leave about the same time NK re-started it's nuke program and political activies around that. I believe nearly ALL non-nationals were expelled at that time. I'd be willing to bet Ed's QRT had nothing to with the proper authorities learning about his operation. I suspect it was because of much more political reason. 73 Kelly - N0VD On Tue, 8 Mar 2005, Gary McClellan wrote: Scott Manthe wrote: The fact that Ed didn't get a bullet to the head is all the proof of authorization needed. He had a beam antenna in a country where no citizen is even allowed access to the internet or long distance phone service. Scott.. Ditto 7O1YGF 7O1YGF also meets your criteria. And yes, I have Ed's card too. Ed went QRT when the proper authorities were notified of his operation as far as I can tell. So did 7O1YGF. Gary K7ZD Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] 7O1YGF License?
Mome, I am relieved to hear that the 7O1YGF license actually exists! Now, can you have your sources send a copy of the actual license to Newington? I know for a fact that upon the arrival of that license copy, which will clear up once and for all the question of whether or not 7O1YGF had proper authority to operate, that the operation will be approved and all will be well. You see, there's a little problem with the (for lack of a better term) conspriacy theory regarding the to-date non-approval situation with 7O1YGF. Everyone screaming bloody murder seems to be under the impression that there is some mysterious or malevelont force (sometimes located in Maryland, sometimes in Newington, sometimes somewhere in California, or sometimes in Scandinavia and/or other points depending on the politcal slant of the theorist telling the tale) standing in the way of this one counting. But if you ask one of the guys up in Newington, they'll tell you a slightly different story -- they WANT to count this one, and have tried to figure out a way to do so to date. But without a license or other proof of proper authorization... they can't. ...and no, I can't say in a public post who my source is, as it could put said individual in an uncomfortable position, and I have too much respect for said individual to do so. The bottom line with this operation is very simple: If (as many claim) the license exists, produce it. End discussion. 73, ron wn3vaw - Original Message - From: Mome Z32ZM [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NJDXA DXR dx-news@njdxa.org Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [DX-NEWS] P5 clip Who says OR who know that 7O1YGF licence is signed by wrong person? 7O1YGF original Licence EXIST All other rules are filled. Recognizing of this DXPN is not good ONLY for some-one. I insure You others that 7O1YGF is more REGULAR than mni others, especially from P5/4L4FN. clip 73,GLDX!!! de: MOME - Z32ZM http://www.qsl.net/z32zm Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] 7O1YGF License?
Yes Ron it should be good if the same criteria could be also used with the P5 operations. No papers no credit. If P5 was approved without papers why 7O1YGF need to send any kind of papers to be accepted ?? That!s the point in evidence here as far as I know. Did you or anybody in this list ever saw any authorization, any licence any papers from North Korea authorities for any of the P5 operations ??? Fred - PY7ZZ - Original Message - From: Ron Notarius [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Cc: Mome Z32ZM [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 5:24 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] 7O1YGF License? Mome, I am relieved to hear that the 7O1YGF license actually exists! Now, can you have your sources send a copy of the actual license to Newington? I know for a fact that upon the arrival of that license copy, which will clear up once and for all the question of whether or not 7O1YGF had proper authority to operate, that the operation will be approved and all will be well. You see, there's a little problem with the (for lack of a better term) conspriacy theory regarding the to-date non-approval situation with 7O1YGF. Everyone screaming bloody murder seems to be under the impression that there is some mysterious or malevelont force (sometimes located in Maryland, sometimes in Newington, sometimes somewhere in California, or sometimes in Scandinavia and/or other points depending on the politcal slant of the theorist telling the tale) standing in the way of this one counting. But if you ask one of the guys up in Newington, they'll tell you a slightly different story -- they WANT to count this one, and have tried to figure out a way to do so to date. But without a license or other proof of proper authorization... they can't. ...and no, I can't say in a public post who my source is, as it could put said individual in an uncomfortable position, and I have too much respect for said individual to do so. The bottom line with this operation is very simple: If (as many claim) the license exists, produce it. End discussion. 73, ron wn3vaw - Original Message - From: Mome Z32ZM [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NJDXA DXR dx-news@njdxa.org Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [DX-NEWS] P5 clip Who says OR who know that 7O1YGF licence is signed by wrong person? 7O1YGF original Licence EXIST All other rules are filled. Recognizing of this DXPN is not good ONLY for some-one. I insure You others that 7O1YGF is more REGULAR than mni others, especially from P5/4L4FN. clip 73,GLDX!!! de: MOME - Z32ZM http://www.qsl.net/z32zm Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 04/03/05 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 04/03/05 Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] 7O1YGF License?
The fact that Ed didn't get a bullet to the head is all the proof of authorization needed. He had a beam antenna in a country where no citizen is even allowed access to the internet or long distance phone service. If Ed didn't have authorization, he wouldn't have made it out of the country. North Korea is a far different situation than anywhere else on Earth and if you can't get past your petty jealousies to undestand that, then maybe you should give up DXing. Ed didn't need to produce a license, because there is no licensng body in North Korea, because there are no provisions for any civilian radio services in North Korea at all. No commercial radio, no CB, no FRS, no TV and no amateur radio. No radio services means no licensing body. Understand this? That's why Ed has no papers. Quit complaining about the ones you don't have or the ones that you have that don't count and work the ones that come along and hope they eventually count. DXing isn't fair! Deal with it and move along or find another hobby. Just quit whining! 73, Scott, N9AA - Original Message - From: Fred Souto Maior [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ron Notarius [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dx-chat@njdxa.org Cc: Mome Z32ZM [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] 7O1YGF License? Yes Ron it should be good if the same criteria could be also used with the P5 operations. No papers no credit. If P5 was approved without papers why 7O1YGF need to send any kind of papers to be accepted ?? That!s the point in evidence here as far as I know. Did you or anybody in this list ever saw any authorization, any licence any papers from North Korea authorities for any of the P5 operations ??? Fred - PY7ZZ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] 7O1YGF License?
Scott Manthe wrote: The fact that Ed didn't get a bullet to the head is all the proof of authorization needed. He had a beam antenna in a country where no citizen is even allowed access to the internet or long distance phone service. Scott.. Ditto 7O1YGF 7O1YGF also meets your criteria. And yes, I have Ed's card too. Ed went QRT when the proper authorities were notified of his operation as far as I can tell. So did 7O1YGF. Gary K7ZD Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
RE: [DX-CHAT] 7O1YGF License?
Well said! NK not a nice regime. You can guarantee that any country calling itself The Peoples Democratic Rebublic of whatever is NOT run by the people, it's NOT democratic and it's NOT a republic - it's a totalitarian dictatorship. The fact that Ed got the rulers of such a state to give him permission to operate ham radio speaks volumes for the man. Dave G0OIL -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Manthe Sent: 08 March 2005 06:46 To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] 7O1YGF License? The fact that Ed didn't get a bullet to the head is all the proof of authorization needed. He had a beam antenna in a country where no citizen is even allowed access to the internet or long distance phone service. If Ed didn't have authorization, he wouldn't have made it out of the country. North Korea is a far different situation than anywhere else on Earth and if you can't get past your petty jealousies to undestand that, then maybe you should give up DXing. Ed didn't need to produce a license, because there is no licensng body in North Korea, because there are no provisions for any civilian radio services in North Korea at all. No commercial radio, no CB, no FRS, no TV and no amateur radio. No radio services means no licensing body. Understand this? That's why Ed has no papers. Quit complaining about the ones you don't have or the ones that you have that don't count and work the ones that come along and hope they eventually count. DXing isn't fair! Deal with it and move along or find another hobby. Just quit whining! 73, Scott, N9AA - Original Message - From: Fred Souto Maior [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ron Notarius [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dx-chat@njdxa.org Cc: Mome Z32ZM [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] 7O1YGF License? Yes Ron it should be good if the same criteria could be also used with the P5 operations. No papers no credit. If P5 was approved without papers why 7O1YGF need to send any kind of papers to be accepted ?? That!s the point in evidence here as far as I know. Did you or anybody in this list ever saw any authorization, any licence any papers from North Korea authorities for any of the P5 operations ??? Fred - PY7ZZ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
