Re: [DX-CHAT] County Hunter's Net Procedures
In VHF weak-signal circles around here, most of the active ops within a few hundred miles know me. But if I just sign W9SZ people get me confused with W9FZ. In fact, it happened in the VHF contest a couple weeks ago. I was even using phonetics at the time and the other station said Hi Bruce, I have my antenna pointed the wrong way. After a few more repeats of my phonetics, he said Oh hi Zack, sorry. As far as I'm concerned, it's never wrong to use phonetics. 73, Zack W9SZ On 6/18/12, Joe Orsak jor...@nc.rr.com wrote: Guess I won't be joining that group, where I come from if you rely on a spot and don't actually copy a stations callsign it is not a contact. DX IS, County hunting done that way AIN'T Joe W4WN On Jun 19, 2012, at 12:55 AM, Duane, WV2B w...@juno.com wrote: From the MARAC county hunting information page: The County Hunter Net which you found on 14.336 or 7.188 operates during the daylight hours every day and sometimes into the evening. Most of the time the pace is fast and furious with mobiles making contacts at the rate of 8 to 10 per minute. You will also notice that we do not use phonetics in the call signs. The reason for this is obvious if you listen to the net for a while. The use of phonetics slows down the cadence and rhythm of the mobile operator. The mobile operators train their ears to hear call signs and cannot take the time to translate what they are not used to hearing. When you first start working the mobiles you will notice that your call sign will be recognized immediately in just a few days. The County Hunter's Net prides itself on being a cooperative effort, rather than a competition. Experience has shown that many more contacts can be made during a short mobile run by avoiding the use of phonetics. This is a departure from the norms of DXing, but if one allows a few days to grasp the way things work they will soon discover they work the same mobiles over and over in hundreds of different counties, and the mobiles work the same county hunters and will learn a new persons call after a few mobile runs. We also have a spotting network where one can see the correct callsign if they are not sure of the mobiles callsign. While it may seem unusual to have procedures different from DXing, it should not be unreasonable to expect to adjust one's operating to a new activity, rather than expect an established net with hundreds of participants to be expected to adjust to our ideas. It is a great activity, and the only way possible for one to complete working all the US Counties. Within days or maybe a week or two, a newcomer will find he recognizes most of the calls, and knows most of the participants by name. Lack of phonetics is not any impediment to enjoying the net. So, if you would like to try working all the US Counties in a cooperative effort, then join the nets and see if you like it. You might find it refreshing to work a station for a needed contact who knows you by name, and maybe will meet you at a convention. Competition is fun, but some activities just don't require it. 73, Duane, WV2B USA-CA All Counties 773 2nd Time all counties 286 You cannot do a kindness too soon, for you never know how soon it will be too late. Ralph Waldo Emerson --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
Re: [DX-CHAT] County Hunter's Net Procedures
That's fine if that's the expected routine for county hunters. I've
never participated in county hunting. That procedure may or may not
have gotten you a QSO with ST0R or 7O6T.
73, Zack W9SZ
On 6/19/12, Duane, WV2B w...@juno.com wrote:
Well, I remember when my good friend K2NJ {now an sk} was on CY9. I badly
wanted to work him, but there was no way with the masses of DXers screaming
their last two in phonetics non-stop without even waiting to see if Bill
had called someone else. I didn't stand a chance with my puny signal. But,
knowing Bill had operated for many years with the county hunters, and was
used to not having to translate phonetics, I waited 2 seconds for the first
wave of last two phonetics, then said my call- WV2B. Bill replied to the
pileup- Is that you Duane? I said yes WV2B you're 59. The contact when in
the log as one of my most memorable contacts. I would have never worked him
if I had spent hours calling with the crowd using phonetics. The issue is
not whether phonetics are right or wrong. They certainly are not wrong. But,
if one wants to participate in an activity with standard operating
procedures, or with a net control station, shouldn't they be willing to
conform to the operating procedures used by all other stations
participating, or as directed by the net control station? Apparently my
suggestion has offended some people, which is not my intention. But there
are 2 sides to every story, and I had hoped that by explaining the standard
procedure the sport of county hunting would not just be left with a black
eye in the eyes of the DX community. We could argue all day whether
phonetics are a good idea or not, but that is not really the point. I also
remember when operating on CY9 we were trying to get stations to use full
callsigns. I located a loud US station calling in the slit window with his
last 2. I repeated my instructions- full callsigns please. for an
experiment, rather than tuning on, I decided to see how long it would take
for the station to follow my instruction. I stated 6 times- full callsigns
only please. The station called me 6 times with the last two. On the 7th
time, he called with his full call, and got a 59 and the contact. I always
wondered if he realized how long I had been listening to him giving his last
two. So yes, we can be proud and believe we know the best way to operate,
and do it regardless of standard procedures for the group, or instructions
from a net control, or instructions from a DX station. Maybe we are right.
Maybe it is best to always use phonetics no matter what any net control or
DX station or operator says. But, maybe by cooperating, things will run
smoothly and we'll get the contact, even if not in the perfect textbook
manner we believe is right. Sorry if anyone is offended. That is not my
purpose. There are 2 sides to every story. 73, Duane, WV2B You cannot do a
kindness too soon, for you never know how soon it
will be too late.
Ralph Waldo Emerson
-- Original Message --
From: Zack Widup w9sz.z...@gmail.com
To: dx-chat dx-chat@njdxa.org
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] County Hunter's Net Procedures
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 07:04:37 -0500
In VHF weak-signal circles around here, most of the active ops within
a few hundred miles know me. But if I just sign W9SZ people get me
confused with W9FZ. In fact, it happened in the VHF contest a couple
weeks ago. I was even using phonetics at the time and the other
station said Hi Bruce, I have my antenna pointed the wrong way.
After a few more repeats of my phonetics, he said Oh hi Zack, sorry.
As far as I'm concerned, it's never wrong to use phonetics.
73, Zack W9SZ
On 6/18/12, Joe Orsak jor...@nc.rr.com wrote:
Guess I won't be joining that group, where I come from if you rely on a
spot
and don't actually copy a stations callsign it is not a contact.
DX IS,
County hunting done that way AIN'T
Joe W4WN
On Jun 19, 2012, at 12:55 AM, Duane, WV2B w...@juno.com wrote:
From the MARAC county hunting information page:
The County Hunter Net which you found on 14.336 or 7.188 operates
during
the daylight hours every day and sometimes into the evening. Most of the
time the pace is fast and furious with mobiles making contacts at the
rate
of 8 to 10 per minute. You will also notice that we do not use phonetics
in the call signs. The reason for this is obvious if you listen to the
net
for a while. The use of phonetics slows down the cadence and rhythm of
the
mobile operator. The mobile operators train their ears to hear call
signs
and cannot take the time to translate what they are not used to hearing.
When you first start working the mobiles you will notice that your call
sign will be recognized immediately in just a few days.
The County Hunter's Net prides itself on being a cooperative effort,
rather than a competition. Experience has shown that many more contacts
can be made during a short mobile run
[DX-CHAT] County Hunter's Net Procedures
From the MARAC county hunting information page: The County Hunter Net which you found on 14.336 or 7.188 operates during the daylight hours every day and sometimes into the evening. Most of the time the pace is fast and furious with mobiles making contacts at the rate of 8 to 10 per minute. You will also notice that we do not use phonetics in the call signs. The reason for this is obvious if you listen to the net for a while. The use of phonetics slows down the cadence and rhythm of the mobile operator. The mobile operators train their ears to hear call signs and cannot take the time to translate what they are not used to hearing. When you first start working the mobiles you will notice that your call sign will be recognized immediately in just a few days. The County Hunter's Net prides itself on being a cooperative effort, rather than a competition. Experience has shown that many more contacts can be made during a short mobile run by avoiding the use of phonetics. This is a departure from the norms of DXing, but if one allows a few days to grasp the way things work they will soon discover they work the same mobiles over and over in hundreds of different counties, and the mobiles work the same county hunters and will learn a new persons call after a few mobile runs. We also have a spotting network where one can see the correct callsign if they are not sure of the mobiles callsign. While it may seem unusual to have procedures different from DXing, it should not be unreasonable to expect to adjust one's operating to a new activity, rather than expect an established net with hundreds of participants to be expected to adjust to our ideas. It is a great activity, and the only way possible for one to complete working all the US Counties. Within days or maybe a week or two, a newcomer will find he recognizes most of the calls, and knows most of the participants by name. Lack of phonetics is not any impediment to enjoying the net. So, if you would like to try working all the US Counties in a cooperative effort, then join the nets and see if you like it. You might find it refreshing to work a station for a needed contact who knows you by name, and maybe will meet you at a convention. Competition is fun, but some activities just don't require it. 73, Duane, WV2BUSA-CA All Counties 7732nd Time all counties 286 You cannot do a kindness too soon, for you never know how soon it will be too late. Ralph Waldo Emerson --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
Re: [DX-CHAT] County Hunter's Net Procedures
God has spoken. Heed his words. John AE5B On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 00:55:06 GMT, you wrote: From the MARAC county hunting information page: The County Hunter Net which you found on 14.336 or 7.188 operates during the daylight hours every day and sometimes into the evening. Most of the time the pace is fast and furious with mobiles making contacts at the rate of 8 to 10 per minute. You will also notice that we do not use phonetics in the call signs. The reason for this is obvious if you listen to the net for a while. The use of phonetics slows down the cadence and rhythm of the mobile operator. The mobile operators train their ears to hear call signs and cannot take the time to translate what they are not used to hearing. When you first start working the mobiles you will notice that your call sign will be recognized immediately in just a few days. The County Hunter's Net prides itself on being a cooperative effort, rather than a competition. Experience has shown that many more contacts can be made during a short mobile run by avoiding the use of phonetics. This is a departure from the norms of DXing, but if one allows a few days to grasp the way things work they will soon discover they work the same mobiles over and over in hundreds of different counties, and the mobiles work the same county hunters and will learn a new persons call after a few mobile runs. We also have a spotting network where one can see the correct callsign if they are not sure of the mobiles callsign. While it may seem unusual to have procedures different from DXing, it should not be unreasonable to expect to adjust one's operating to a new activity, rather than expect an established net with hundreds of participants to be expected to adjust to our ideas. It is a great activity, and the only way possible for one to complete working all the US Counties. Within days or maybe a week or two, a newcomer will find he recognizes most of the calls, and knows most of the participants by name. Lack of phonetics is not any impediment to enjoying the net. So, if you would like to try working all the US Counties in a cooperative effort, then join the nets and see if you like it. You might find it refreshing to work a station for a needed contact who knows you by name, and maybe will meet you at a convention. Competition is fun, but some activities just don't require it. 73, Duane, WV2BUSA-CA All Counties 7732nd Time all counties 286 You cannot do a kindness too soon, for you never know how soon it will be too late. Ralph Waldo Emerson --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
Re: [DX-CHAT] County Hunter's Net Procedures
Guess I won't be joining that group, where I come from if you rely on a spot and don't actually copy a stations callsign it is not a contact. DX IS, County hunting done that way AIN'T Joe W4WN On Jun 19, 2012, at 12:55 AM, Duane, WV2B w...@juno.com wrote: From the MARAC county hunting information page: The County Hunter Net which you found on 14.336 or 7.188 operates during the daylight hours every day and sometimes into the evening. Most of the time the pace is fast and furious with mobiles making contacts at the rate of 8 to 10 per minute. You will also notice that we do not use phonetics in the call signs. The reason for this is obvious if you listen to the net for a while. The use of phonetics slows down the cadence and rhythm of the mobile operator. The mobile operators train their ears to hear call signs and cannot take the time to translate what they are not used to hearing. When you first start working the mobiles you will notice that your call sign will be recognized immediately in just a few days. The County Hunter's Net prides itself on being a cooperative effort, rather than a competition. Experience has shown that many more contacts can be made during a short mobile run by avoiding the use of phonetics. This is a departure from the norms of DXing, but if one allows a few days to grasp the way things work they will soon discover they work the same mobiles over and over in hundreds of different counties, and the mobiles work the same county hunters and will learn a new persons call after a few mobile runs. We also have a spotting network where one can see the correct callsign if they are not sure of the mobiles callsign. While it may seem unusual to have procedures different from DXing, it should not be unreasonable to expect to adjust one's operating to a new activity, rather than expect an established net with hundreds of participants to be expected to adjust to our ideas. It is a great activity, and the only way possible for one to complete working all the US Counties. Within days or maybe a week or two, a newcomer will find he recognizes most of the calls, and knows most of the participants by name. Lack of phonetics is not any impediment to enjoying the net. So, if you would like to try working all the US Counties in a cooperative effort, then join the nets and see if you like it. You might find it refreshing to work a station for a needed contact who knows you by name, and maybe will meet you at a convention. Competition is fun, but some activities just don't require it. 73, Duane, WV2B USA-CA All Counties 773 2nd Time all counties 286 You cannot do a kindness too soon, for you never know how soon it will be too late. Ralph Waldo Emerson --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
