[DX-NEWS] Death by repeatedly shooting oneself in the foot

2005-05-24 Thread Urb LeJeune

The Dayton Hamvention has both macro and micro problem.
The macro problems, such as high gas prices and declining interest,
are universal. However, there are problems they have brought on
themselves.

When they were building up the even they were great, they
would do anything humanly possible to help. They would help
find rooms, etc. When the became fat cats with 30K+ attendance,
they hired an outside firm to run the convention. They also stopped
support and discontinued free bus transportation from downtown
to the Hara Arena. In three years the attendance went from 30K+ to
under 20K.

My personal gripe has always been their requirement that
you have to be present to win a major prize. This discriminates against
people traveling long distances since they have to leave early Sunday,
AM to get home. We pay the same price as the locals but don't have a
shot at a major prize.

Couple this with the facts that there is essentially nothing to
do in Dayton and hotels are expensive. I predict that the Orlando
Hamfest will take over in a few years. They have great facilities,
ample free parking, Florida in February, and Disneyland. You
can get a nice hotel in Kissimmee - about 10 miles away - , for
about a third of what you pay in Dayton.

This past February they had over 8K people.

Urb, W2DEC


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RE: [DX-NEWS] Death by repeatedly shooting oneself in the foot

2005-05-24 Thread Robert Garceau
I was there for the major prize drawing and you didn't have to be there to
win.  They mailed the prizes to the winners.

However, the smaller prizes that had not been picked up during the hourly
drawings were given out to the folks that stayed to the end.

And they did not have an outside contractor this year; it was all volunteer.
They gave that up after last year.

Bob, W1EQ



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Subject: [DX-NEWS] Death by repeatedly shooting oneself in the foot

 The Dayton Hamvention has both macro and micro problem.
The macro problems, such as high gas prices and declining interest,
are universal. However, there are problems they have brought on
themselves.

When they were building up the even they were great, they
would do anything humanly possible to help. They would help
find rooms, etc. When the became fat cats with 30K+ attendance,
they hired an outside firm to run the convention. They also stopped
support and discontinued free bus transportation from downtown
to the Hara Arena. In three years the attendance went from 30K+ to
under 20K.

 My personal gripe has always been their requirement that
you have to be present to win a major prize. This discriminates against
people traveling long distances since they have to leave early Sunday,
AM to get home. We pay the same price as the locals but don't have a
shot at a major prize.

 Couple this with the facts that there is essentially nothing to
do in Dayton and hotels are expensive. I predict that the Orlando
Hamfest will take over in a few years. They have great facilities,
ample free parking, Florida in February, and Disneyland. You
can get a nice hotel in Kissimmee - about 10 miles away - , for
about a third of what you pay in Dayton.

This past February they had over 8K people.

Urb, W2DEC


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Re: [DX-NEWS] Death by repeatedly shooting oneself in the foot

2005-05-24 Thread Steve-KF2TI
On 24 May 2005 at 15:45, Urb LeJeune wrote:

Date sent:  Tue, 24 May 2005 15:45:32 -0400
To: dx-news@njdxa.org
From:   Urb LeJeune [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:[DX-NEWS] Death by repeatedly shooting oneself in the 
foot

  The Dayton Hamvention has both macro and micro problem.
 The macro problems, such as high gas prices and declining interest,
 are universal. However, there are problems they have brought on
 themselves.

OOOPPP

Even the bosses make mistakes...as in this thread is on-going to the 
Chat reflector as was posted by ERROR Will Robinson, to the NEWS 
reflector as opposed to the CHAT reflector

I guess you know who partied a tad to hardy at the NJDXA Suite this 
past weekend!!!???!!!

PLEASE PLEASE if you wish to comment feel freon the DX-CHAT reflector

Thanks

Your friendly neighborhood administrator

KF2TI

Now back to our show...already in progress

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RE: [DX-NEWS] Death by repeatedly shooting oneself in the foot

2005-05-24 Thread Bernie McClenny
Urb,
Does the local DX club have any forums?  I haven't been to the Orlando
Hamfest.  By the way I have heard good reports on the Contest forum at
Dayton this year, which was held at the Crowne Plaza.  Hint, hint, nudge,
nudge, know what I mean?

Bernie, W3UR

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Urb LeJeune
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Subject: [DX-NEWS] Death by repeatedly shooting oneself in the foot

 The Dayton Hamvention has both macro and micro problem.
The macro problems, such as high gas prices and declining interest,
are universal. However, there are problems they have brought on
themselves.

When they were building up the even they were great, they
would do anything humanly possible to help. They would help
find rooms, etc. When the became fat cats with 30K+ attendance,
they hired an outside firm to run the convention. They also stopped
support and discontinued free bus transportation from downtown
to the Hara Arena. In three years the attendance went from 30K+ to
under 20K.

 My personal gripe has always been their requirement that
you have to be present to win a major prize. This discriminates against
people traveling long distances since they have to leave early Sunday,
AM to get home. We pay the same price as the locals but don't have a
shot at a major prize.

 Couple this with the facts that there is essentially nothing to
do in Dayton and hotels are expensive. I predict that the Orlando
Hamfest will take over in a few years. They have great facilities,
ample free parking, Florida in February, and Disneyland. You
can get a nice hotel in Kissimmee - about 10 miles away - , for
about a third of what you pay in Dayton.

This past February they had over 8K people.

Urb, W2DEC


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Re: [DX-NEWS] Death by repeatedly shooting oneself in the foot

2005-05-24 Thread Steve-KF2TI
On 24 May 2005 at 21:31, N7MAL wrote:

From:   N7MAL [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: dx-news@njdxa.org, Urb LeJeune [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: [DX-NEWS] Death by repeatedly shooting oneself in 
the foot
Date sent:  Tue, 24 May 2005 21:31:56 -

 I was an exhibitor at Dayton in the early 70's.  

Forwarded to DX-CHAT

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