[Dx4win] DX4WIN UPDATE

2014-09-06 Thread Paul F6EXV

Hi all
It is very very frustrating to see that there is absolutely no 
information on upcoming updates on the main program.
It would be quite easy to say either there will be no updates, or to say 
which points are being worked on for next update.
If there will be improvement, I would like to see one addition on the 
QSL method choices, i.e. add OQRS bureau and OQRS direct.


But once again, having been a DX4Win user for many many years, how come 
there is no info whatsoever on what we can expect from the developers.


73
Paul F6EXV

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Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN UPDATE

2014-09-06 Thread Bob
I had same thoughts about 3 years ago.  My guess is DX4WIN is nearing 
end-of-life.  I was an early adopter.  I've since moved one to HRD.


My 2 cents.

Bob

-Original Message- 
From: Paul F6EXV

Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2014 3:14 AM
To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Dx4win] DX4WIN UPDATE

Hi all
It is very very frustrating to see that there is absolutely no
information on upcoming updates on the main program.
It would be quite easy to say either there will be no updates, or to say
which points are being worked on for next update.
If there will be improvement, I would like to see one addition on the
QSL method choices, i.e. add OQRS bureau and OQRS direct.

But once again, having been a DX4Win user for many many years, how come
there is no info whatsoever on what we can expect from the developers.

73
Paul F6EXV

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Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN UPDATE

2014-09-06 Thread Ernie Walls
DX4Win has been motionless in respect to program improvements for many years 
now, probably six or seven. The update from v7 to v8 was pretty much useless as 
the digital inclusion never was successful.

I moved from WJ2O in 2004, when DX4Win was pretty much state of the art, at 
least in terms of amateur radio logging programs, and have watched it remain 
more or less motionless while a number of other programs simply passed it in 
terms of output. Or, at least, so I am told.

At this stage, the only reason I don't move is that the two or three programs 
that are 'allegedly' at the top of the programming tree are so complex, and do 
so many things that I am not the slightest bit interested in, and take so much 
computer management skills and time that I cannot be bothered.

DX4Win has peaked - if you want to have your logger do smarter things, you are 
going to have to move programs. Simple as that. Do I kike the situation - not 
really, but like the great majority of us, nought I can do about it.

My view.

Ernie Walls VK3FM
vk...@wallsy.com.au
Mobile 0418 301 483

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Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN UPDATE

2014-09-06 Thread Dave Perry
It would be nice if Paul would communicate with his user base a bit more
frequently.  I think he is trying to set some sort of a record to see how
long the program will maintain an active user base without him ever
responding or providing an update again.  Hi, hi

But I must say that DX4WIN still performs flawlessly in managing my 80,000+
contacts across several different call signs.  It also interfaces
beautifully with SteppIR and the Top Ten Devices DX Doubler (SO2R box) and
Band Decoder -- and my two K3s.  Plus, we get all of the great free support
from Jim, AD1C.

If Paul was trying to charge us an annual maintenance fee, that would be a
different matter.  I have tried converting to HRD and DXLabs several times
and both come crunching to a halt when I try to load in my number of
contacts.  There is also no practical way to automatically enter all of the
DXCC confirmations for almost 2,500 band/countries into a new program.

Unfortunately, I do not recommend DX4WIN to friends given the lack of
support and communication from Paul and the uncertainty of support for the
program going forward--especially when new users would have to pay for a
non-supported product.  But whenever logging programs come up for
discussion, I tend to be quiet and count my blessings that I have the best
program on the market--and I don't have to pay an annual maintenance fee.
Why let everyone else in a our great little secret?

In short, it is still an excellent program and it's free!  Shh...!

73,

Dave, N4QS

-Original Message-
From: DX4WIN [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ernie
Walls
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2014 6:27 AM
To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN UPDATE

DX4Win has been motionless in respect to program improvements for many years
now, probably six or seven. The update from v7 to v8 was pretty much useless
as the digital inclusion never was successful.

I moved from WJ2O in 2004, when DX4Win was pretty much state of the art, at
least in terms of amateur radio logging programs, and have watched it remain
more or less motionless while a number of other programs simply passed it in
terms of output. Or, at least, so I am told.

At this stage, the only reason I don't move is that the two or three
programs that are 'allegedly' at the top of the programming tree are so
complex, and do so many things that I am not the slightest bit interested
in, and take so much computer management skills and time that I cannot be
bothered.

DX4Win has peaked - if you want to have your logger do smarter things, you
are going to have to move programs. Simple as that. Do I kike the situation
- not really, but like the great majority of us, nought I can do about it.

My view.

Ernie Walls VK3FM
vk...@wallsy.com.au
Mobile 0418 301 483

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[Dx4win] Status

2014-09-06 Thread Paul van der Eijk
Before answering too many private emails, I want to share my reply with all
of you:

We signed a contract on a house back in Aug-2012 with expected delivery in
Apr-2013. We sold our house in January 2013, and moved into a small town
house for a few month. Lots of stuff went into storage, including my
radios. But finally after a long wait, we are supposed to close on the new
house at the end of this month. Without the radios connected to my
development computer etc I never felt secure enough to release a new
version. But as soon as the dust settles, I expect to be back in business.
I have collected plenty of suggestions that need work, some of them have
been implemented already.

All DX4WIN users should feel good about the regular updates of the country
database that Jim, AD1C, provides.

--73, Paul, KK4HD

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DX4WIN logging software
Paul van der Eijk, KK4HD
BrookHill Data Systems LLC
http://www.dx4win.com
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Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN UPDATE

2014-09-06 Thread Barry
As I'm not very active these days and don't really chase awards any 
more, DX4WIn still suits my needs.  If I were more active and chasing 
awards, I would have looked elsewhere about 5 years ago.


I predict the next update will be a patch to keep it working with Win9.

Barry W2UP
P.S.  I'll use whichever software AD1C uses and selflessly supports :-)

On 9/6/2014 13:05, Pete Smith N4ZR wrote:
I was Paul's first customer, more than 20 years ago, when it was in 
version 0.92. Ultimately, about a year ago I gave up on using DX4WIN 
because it did not do a couple of things I had come to need.  I tried 
DXlab Suite, which was indeed slow to load my 125,000 QSO log and far 
too complex for my tastes, but then tried Logger32, which is also free 
and works just fine.


73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the Reverse Beacon Network at
http://reversebeacon.net,
blog at reversebeacon.blogspot.com.
For spots, please go to your favorite
ARC V6 or VE7CC DX cluster node.

On 9/6/2014 11:53 AM, Dave Perry wrote:

It would be nice if Paul would communicate with his user base a bit more
frequently.  I think he is trying to set some sort of a record to see 
how

long the program will maintain an active user base without him ever
responding or providing an update again.  Hi, hi

But I must say that DX4WIN still performs flawlessly in managing my 
80,000+

contacts across several different call signs.  It also interfaces
beautifully with SteppIR and the Top Ten Devices DX Doubler (SO2R 
box) and
Band Decoder -- and my two K3s.  Plus, we get all of the great free 
support

from Jim, AD1C.

If Paul was trying to charge us an annual maintenance fee, that would 
be a
different matter.  I have tried converting to HRD and DXLabs several 
times

and both come crunching to a halt when I try to load in my number of
contacts.  There is also no practical way to automatically enter all 
of the

DXCC confirmations for almost 2,500 band/countries into a new program.

Unfortunately, I do not recommend DX4WIN to friends given the lack of
support and communication from Paul and the uncertainty of support 
for the

program going forward--especially when new users would have to pay for a
non-supported product.  But whenever logging programs come up for
discussion, I tend to be quiet and count my blessings that I have the 
best
program on the market--and I don't have to pay an annual maintenance 
fee.

Why let everyone else in a our great little secret?

In short, it is still an excellent program and it's free! Shh...!

73,

Dave, N4QS

-Original Message-
From: DX4WIN [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ernie
Walls
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2014 6:27 AM
To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN UPDATE

DX4Win has been motionless in respect to program improvements for 
many years
now, probably six or seven. The update from v7 to v8 was pretty much 
useless

as the digital inclusion never was successful.

I moved from WJ2O in 2004, when DX4Win was pretty much state of the 
art, at
least in terms of amateur radio logging programs, and have watched it 
remain
more or less motionless while a number of other programs simply 
passed it in

terms of output. Or, at least, so I am told.

At this stage, the only reason I don't move is that the two or three
programs that are 'allegedly' at the top of the programming tree are so
complex, and do so many things that I am not the slightest bit 
interested
in, and take so much computer management skills and time that I 
cannot be

bothered.

DX4Win has peaked - if you want to have your logger do smarter 
things, you
are going to have to move programs. Simple as that. Do I kike the 
situation
- not really, but like the great majority of us, nought I can do 
about it.


My view.

Ernie Walls VK3FM
vk...@wallsy.com.au
Mobile 0418 301 483

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Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN UPDATE

2014-09-06 Thread Garry Shapiro


On 9/6/2014 12:22 PM, Barry wrote:


P.S.  I'll use whichever software AD1C uses and selflessly supports :-)


Amen to that!

Garry NI6T

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[Dx4win] DX4WIN substitute

2014-09-06 Thread Ken G Kopp
I've used DX4WIN for years with no problems.   Have looked at others,
but few ... any? ... will track US
Counties for CQ's award.  That's a must for me.

73

K0PP
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Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN UPDATE

2014-09-06 Thread Dick Flanagan

Just as an FYI:

DXLab can import a DX4WIN log.  All you have to do is convert it to ADIF 
and then import it.  It can also compare your log with LOTW and flag all 
discrepancies.  When I ran a full comparison against LOTW, DXLab even 
located data entry errors made by the DXCC desk when they originally 
hand-entered the QSO data.

http://www.dxlabsuite.com/dxlabwiki/QSOImport

DXLab can also track the USA-CA awards.
http://www.dxlabsuite.com/dxlabwiki/USCountyStatus

I have never had the pleasure of using a software program that is 
supported as well as DXLab.  It is not unusual for a question or bug or 
enhancement request to be made one day and have a response available the 
next--sometimes even the same day.


The DXLab support group averages over 1,000 messages each month.  This 
doesn't mean the program is buggy, but that no question is too small or 
repetitive to ask and receive an almost immediate response.

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dxlab/info

Of course there is a learning curve, but the suite is made up of eight 
separate programs that talk to each other.  Start with one, get 
comfortable with it and then add another.


I have been a DX4WIN user for over 20 years and finally made the switch 
to DXLab earlier this year.  DX4WIN is adequate for 90% of the amateur 
community.  It is an especially good fit for new or low-activity hams.  
DXLab can take care of just about everyone.


DXLab is free from http://dxlabsuite.com/

--
Dick Flanagan K7VC
d...@k7vc.com

On 2014-09-06 8:53 AM, Dave Perry wrote:

It would be nice if Paul would communicate with his user base a bit more
frequently.  I think he is trying to set some sort of a record to see how
long the program will maintain an active user base without him ever
responding or providing an update again.  Hi, hi

But I must say that DX4WIN still performs flawlessly in managing my 80,000+
contacts across several different call signs.  It also interfaces
beautifully with SteppIR and the Top Ten Devices DX Doubler (SO2R box) and
Band Decoder -- and my two K3s.  Plus, we get all of the great free support
from Jim, AD1C.

If Paul was trying to charge us an annual maintenance fee, that would be a
different matter.  I have tried converting to HRD and DXLabs several times
and both come crunching to a halt when I try to load in my number of
contacts.  There is also no practical way to automatically enter all of the
DXCC confirmations for almost 2,500 band/countries into a new program.

Unfortunately, I do not recommend DX4WIN to friends given the lack of
support and communication from Paul and the uncertainty of support for the
program going forward--especially when new users would have to pay for a
non-supported product.  But whenever logging programs come up for
discussion, I tend to be quiet and count my blessings that I have the best
program on the market--and I don't have to pay an annual maintenance fee.
Why let everyone else in a our great little secret?

In short, it is still an excellent program and it's free!  Shh...!

73,

Dave, N4QS

-Original Message-
From: DX4WIN [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ernie
Walls
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2014 6:27 AM
To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN UPDATE

DX4Win has been motionless in respect to program improvements for many years
now, probably six or seven. The update from v7 to v8 was pretty much useless
as the digital inclusion never was successful.

I moved from WJ2O in 2004, when DX4Win was pretty much state of the art, at
least in terms of amateur radio logging programs, and have watched it remain
more or less motionless while a number of other programs simply passed it in
terms of output. Or, at least, so I am told.

At this stage, the only reason I don't move is that the two or three
programs that are 'allegedly' at the top of the programming tree are so
complex, and do so many things that I am not the slightest bit interested
in, and take so much computer management skills and time that I cannot be
bothered.

DX4Win has peaked - if you want to have your logger do smarter things, you
are going to have to move programs. Simple as that. Do I kike the situation
- not really, but like the great majority of us, nought I can do about it.

My view.

Ernie Walls VK3FM
vk...@wallsy.com.au
Mobile 0418 301 483

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Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN UPDATE

2014-09-06 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV



You've mentioned how DXLab can take an ADIF file, but does that
include one's QSL status for each QSO?


Yes, if that status is exported according to the ADIF standard.  ADIF
specifies QSL_SENT (I,R,Y,N), QSL_RCVD (I,R,Y,N), LotW_QSL_SENT,
LotW_QSL_RCVD, eQSL_QSL_SENT, and eQSL_QSL_RCVD.

In addition, DXKeeper can update (match) DXCC credits with QSOs by
downloading the user's DXCC Record and will create placeholder (dummy)
QSOs for any credits that do not have matching QSOs in the log (e.g.
QSOs/Cards before LotW).

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 2014-09-06 6:24 PM, Duane Calvin wrote:

You've mentioned how DXLab can take an ADIF file, but does that include
one's QSL status for each QSO?  Or are you relying on the LOTW for that
info?  Just curious.

73, Duane

Duane Calvin, AC5AA
Austin, Texas
www.ac5aa.com




-Original Message-
From: DX4WIN [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dick
Flanagan
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2014 4:39 PM
To: DX4WIN Reflector
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN UPDATE

Just as an FYI:

DXLab can import a DX4WIN log.  All you have to do is convert it to ADIF
and then import it.  It can also compare your log with LOTW and flag all
discrepancies.  When I ran a full comparison against LOTW, DXLab even
located data entry errors made by the DXCC desk when they originally
hand-entered the QSO data.
http://www.dxlabsuite.com/dxlabwiki/QSOImport

DXLab can also track the USA-CA awards.
http://www.dxlabsuite.com/dxlabwiki/USCountyStatus

I have never had the pleasure of using a software program that is
supported as well as DXLab.  It is not unusual for a question or bug or
enhancement request to be made one day and have a response available the
next--sometimes even the same day.

The DXLab support group averages over 1,000 messages each month.  This
doesn't mean the program is buggy, but that no question is too small or
repetitive to ask and receive an almost immediate response.
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dxlab/info

Of course there is a learning curve, but the suite is made up of eight
separate programs that talk to each other.  Start with one, get
comfortable with it and then add another.

I have been a DX4WIN user for over 20 years and finally made the switch
to DXLab earlier this year.  DX4WIN is adequate for 90% of the amateur
community.  It is an especially good fit for new or low-activity hams.
DXLab can take care of just about everyone.

DXLab is free from http://dxlabsuite.com/

--
Dick Flanagan K7VC
d...@k7vc.com

On 2014-09-06 8:53 AM, Dave Perry wrote:

It would be nice if Paul would communicate with his user base a bit more
frequently.  I think he is trying to set some sort of a record to see how
long the program will maintain an active user base without him ever
responding or providing an update again.  Hi, hi

But I must say that DX4WIN still performs flawlessly in managing my

80,000+

contacts across several different call signs.  It also interfaces
beautifully with SteppIR and the Top Ten Devices DX Doubler (SO2R box) and
Band Decoder -- and my two K3s.  Plus, we get all of the great free

support

from Jim, AD1C.

If Paul was trying to charge us an annual maintenance fee, that would be a
different matter.  I have tried converting to HRD and DXLabs several times
and both come crunching to a halt when I try to load in my number of
contacts.  There is also no practical way to automatically enter all of

the

DXCC confirmations for almost 2,500 band/countries into a new program.

Unfortunately, I do not recommend DX4WIN to friends given the lack of
support and communication from Paul and the uncertainty of support for the
program going forward--especially when new users would have to pay for a
non-supported product.  But whenever logging programs come up for
discussion, I tend to be quiet and count my blessings that I have the best
program on the market--and I don't have to pay an annual maintenance fee.
Why let everyone else in a our great little secret?

In short, it is still an excellent program and it's free!  Shh...!

73,

Dave, N4QS

-Original Message-
From: DX4WIN [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ernie
Walls
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2014 6:27 AM
To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN UPDATE

DX4Win has been motionless in respect to program improvements for many

years

now, probably six or seven. The update from v7 to v8 was pretty much

useless

as the digital inclusion never was successful.

I moved from WJ2O in 2004, when DX4Win was pretty much state of the art,

at

least in terms of amateur radio logging programs, and have watched it

remain

more or less motionless while a number of other programs simply passed it

in

terms of output. Or, at least, so I am told.

At this stage, the only reason I don't move is that the two or three
programs that are 'allegedly' at the top of the programming tree are so
complex, and do so many things that I am not the slightest bit interested

Re: [Dx4win] Status

2014-09-06 Thread PY2YP

Take your time Paul I'll wait for the new version.

73 DX de PY2YP - Cesar

On 6/9/2014 16:21, Paul van der Eijk wrote:

I have collected plenty of suggestions that need work, some of them have
been implemented already.

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Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN UPDATE

2014-09-06 Thread Duane Calvin
Thanks, Joe!

Duane Calvin, AC5AA
Austin, Texas
www.ac5aa.com  




-Original Message-
From: DX4WIN [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Joe
Subich, W4TV
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2014 5:41 PM
To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN UPDATE


 You've mentioned how DXLab can take an ADIF file, but does that
 include one's QSL status for each QSO?

Yes, if that status is exported according to the ADIF standard.  ADIF
specifies QSL_SENT (I,R,Y,N), QSL_RCVD (I,R,Y,N), LotW_QSL_SENT,
LotW_QSL_RCVD, eQSL_QSL_SENT, and eQSL_QSL_RCVD.

In addition, DXKeeper can update (match) DXCC credits with QSOs by
downloading the user's DXCC Record and will create placeholder (dummy)
QSOs for any credits that do not have matching QSOs in the log (e.g.
QSOs/Cards before LotW).

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 2014-09-06 6:24 PM, Duane Calvin wrote:
 You've mentioned how DXLab can take an ADIF file, but does that include
 one's QSL status for each QSO?  Or are you relying on the LOTW for that
 info?  Just curious.

   73, Duane

 Duane Calvin, AC5AA
 Austin, Texas
 www.ac5aa.com




 -Original Message-
 From: DX4WIN [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dick
 Flanagan
 Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2014 4:39 PM
 To: DX4WIN Reflector
 Subject: Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN UPDATE

 Just as an FYI:

 DXLab can import a DX4WIN log.  All you have to do is convert it to ADIF
 and then import it.  It can also compare your log with LOTW and flag all
 discrepancies.  When I ran a full comparison against LOTW, DXLab even
 located data entry errors made by the DXCC desk when they originally
 hand-entered the QSO data.
 http://www.dxlabsuite.com/dxlabwiki/QSOImport

 DXLab can also track the USA-CA awards.
 http://www.dxlabsuite.com/dxlabwiki/USCountyStatus

 I have never had the pleasure of using a software program that is
 supported as well as DXLab.  It is not unusual for a question or bug or
 enhancement request to be made one day and have a response available the
 next--sometimes even the same day.

 The DXLab support group averages over 1,000 messages each month.  This
 doesn't mean the program is buggy, but that no question is too small or
 repetitive to ask and receive an almost immediate response.
 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dxlab/info

 Of course there is a learning curve, but the suite is made up of eight
 separate programs that talk to each other.  Start with one, get
 comfortable with it and then add another.

 I have been a DX4WIN user for over 20 years and finally made the switch
 to DXLab earlier this year.  DX4WIN is adequate for 90% of the amateur
 community.  It is an especially good fit for new or low-activity hams.
 DXLab can take care of just about everyone.

 DXLab is free from http://dxlabsuite.com/

 --
 Dick Flanagan K7VC
 d...@k7vc.com

 On 2014-09-06 8:53 AM, Dave Perry wrote:
 It would be nice if Paul would communicate with his user base a bit more
 frequently.  I think he is trying to set some sort of a record to see how
 long the program will maintain an active user base without him ever
 responding or providing an update again.  Hi, hi

 But I must say that DX4WIN still performs flawlessly in managing my
 80,000+
 contacts across several different call signs.  It also interfaces
 beautifully with SteppIR and the Top Ten Devices DX Doubler (SO2R box)
and
 Band Decoder -- and my two K3s.  Plus, we get all of the great free
 support
 from Jim, AD1C.

 If Paul was trying to charge us an annual maintenance fee, that would be
a
 different matter.  I have tried converting to HRD and DXLabs several
times
 and both come crunching to a halt when I try to load in my number of
 contacts.  There is also no practical way to automatically enter all of
 the
 DXCC confirmations for almost 2,500 band/countries into a new program.

 Unfortunately, I do not recommend DX4WIN to friends given the lack of
 support and communication from Paul and the uncertainty of support for
the
 program going forward--especially when new users would have to pay for a
 non-supported product.  But whenever logging programs come up for
 discussion, I tend to be quiet and count my blessings that I have the
best
 program on the market--and I don't have to pay an annual maintenance fee.
 Why let everyone else in a our great little secret?

 In short, it is still an excellent program and it's free!  Shh...!

 73,

 Dave, N4QS

 -Original Message-
 From: DX4WIN [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ernie
 Walls
 Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2014 6:27 AM
 To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN UPDATE

 DX4Win has been motionless in respect to program improvements for many
 years
 now, probably six or seven. The update from v7 to v8 was pretty much
 useless
 as the digital inclusion never was successful.

 I moved from WJ2O in 2004, when DX4Win was pretty much state of the art,
 at
 least in terms of amateur radio logging programs, and have watched