Re: [Dx4win] Prefix Logic
Hi Bob, that makes a lot of sense, and easier to remember. There are, I guess always going to be exceptions to the rule, like VK9HR this summer, was on Lord Howl. I have a VK9TR from Willis Is. Pays to double check countries with multi prefixes, you could be holding a rare one, hi. Tnx, GL 73 de Bernie/WO2N. -Original Message- From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of R.T.Liddy Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 12:47 AM To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Prefix Logic It appears to me that an Entity like Willis would have VK9W because Australia actually issues the Calls for there specifically as VK9Wxx. So, the Entity would be obvious from the Call. However, some Countries use the same prefix for several ARRL Entities and there needs to be some way to differentiate them in the database. An HK0 could be San Andres or Malpelo, so a /M is put after the HK0 to specifically denote it as Malpelo. Other eaxmples would be FR and JD1 versus PY0Txx and CE0Yxx. IMHO 73, Bob K8BL --- On Sun, 1/8/12, WO2N w...@att.net wrote: From: WO2N w...@att.net Subject: [Dx4win] Prefix Logic To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net Date: Sunday, January 8, 2012, 9:47 PM Looking at the prefix list, What's the reasoning for some multi-prefix countries identified by forward stroked, and others are not? Example Willis is VK9W, but Malpelo is HK0/M. When I search via prefix I don't kn if it wants a / or not.. I kn f1 brings up the list. Tnx for your reply 73,de Bernie/WO2N. __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] Prefix Logic
Hi Bernie, You're right.I didn't know that VK9H was Lord Howe until it came back as a New Band Entity on LOTW. I had thought it was Norfolk for some reason. Those French TO#xx Calls are pretty tricky. I guess we always have to stay on our toes since the various Governments across the world refuse to consult the ARRL Entities Prefix List before issuing Calls (hihi). 73/GL, Bob K8BL --- On Mon, 1/9/12, WO2N w...@att.net wrote: From: WO2N w...@att.net Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Prefix Logic To: 'R.T.Liddy' k...@ameritech.net, dx4win@mailman.qth.net Date: Monday, January 9, 2012, 8:37 AM Hi Bob, that makes a lot of sense, and easier to remember. There are, I guess always going to be exceptions to the rule, like VK9HR this summer, was on Lord Howl. I have a VK9TR from Willis Is. Pays to double check countries with multi prefixes, you could be holding a rare one, hi. Tnx, GL 73 de Bernie/WO2N. -Original Message- From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of R.T.Liddy Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 12:47 AM To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Prefix Logic It appears to me that an Entity like Willis would have VK9W because Australia actually issues the Calls for there specifically as VK9Wxx. So, the Entity would be obvious from the Call. However, some Countries use the same prefix for several ARRL Entities and there needs to be some way to differentiate them in the database. An HK0 could be San Andres or Malpelo, so a /M is put after the HK0 to specifically denote it as Malpelo. Other eaxmples would be FR and JD1 versus PY0Txx and CE0Yxx. IMHO 73, Bob K8BL --- On Sun, 1/8/12, WO2N w...@att.net wrote: From: WO2N w...@att.net Subject: [Dx4win] Prefix Logic To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net Date: Sunday, January 8, 2012, 9:47 PM Looking at the prefix list, What's the reasoning for some multi-prefix countries identified by forward stroked, and others are not? Example Willis is VK9W, but Malpelo is HK0/M. When I search via prefix I don't kn if it wants a / or not.. I kn f1 brings up the list. Tnx for your reply 73,de Bernie/WO2N. __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] Prefix Logic
Licensing authorities (or administrations) don't give a s..t about DXCC. Some DXCC prefixes became the standard official ones AFTER the callsigns were issued, not the opposite... 73 Paul F6EXV Le 09/01/2012 19:21, R.T.Liddy a écrit : Hi Bernie, You're right.I didn't know that VK9H was Lord Howe until it came back as a New Band Entity on LOTW. I had thought it was Norfolk for some reason. Those French TO#xx Calls are pretty tricky. I guess we always have to stay on our toes since the various Governments across the world refuse to consult the ARRL Entities Prefix List before issuing Calls (hihi). 73/GL, Bob K8BL --- On Mon, 1/9/12, WO2Nw...@att.net wrote: From: WO2Nw...@att.net Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Prefix Logic To: 'R.T.Liddy'k...@ameritech.net, dx4win@mailman.qth.net Date: Monday, January 9, 2012, 8:37 AM Hi Bob, that makes a lot of sense, and easier to remember. There are, I guess always going to be exceptions to the rule, like VK9HR this summer, was on Lord Howl. I have a VK9TR from Willis Is. Pays to double check countries with multi prefixes, you could be holding a rare one, hi. Tnx, GL 73 de Bernie/WO2N. -Original Message- From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of R.T.Liddy Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 12:47 AM To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Prefix Logic It appears to me that an Entity like Willis would have VK9W because Australia actually issues the Calls for there specifically as VK9Wxx. So, the Entity would be obvious from the Call. However, some Countries use the same prefix for several ARRL Entities and there needs to be some way to differentiate them in the database. An HK0 could be San Andres or Malpelo, so a /M is put after the HK0 to specifically denote it as Malpelo. Other eaxmples would be FR and JD1 versus PY0Txx and CE0Yxx. IMHO 73, Bob K8BL --- On Sun, 1/8/12, WO2Nw...@att.net wrote: From: WO2Nw...@att.net Subject: [Dx4win] Prefix Logic To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net Date: Sunday, January 8, 2012, 9:47 PM Looking at the prefix list, What's the reasoning for some multi-prefix countries identified by forward stroked, and others are not? Example Willis is VK9W, but Malpelo is HK0/M. When I search via prefix I don't kn if it wants a / or not.. I kn f1 brings up the list. Tnx for your reply 73,de Bernie/WO2N. __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] Prefix Logic
Yes, Paul, that's the joke -hihi. 98% of the Govt's have no idea who the ARRL is and wouldn't care about DXCC Prefixes if they did!! In fact, some might purposely deviate just to show they have the power. 73, Bob K8BL --- On Mon, 1/9/12, Paul F6EXV f6...@wanadoo.fr wrote: From: Paul F6EXV f6...@wanadoo.fr Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Prefix Logic To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net Date: Monday, January 9, 2012, 1:45 PM Licensing authorities (or administrations) don't give a s..t about DXCC. Some DXCC prefixes became the standard official ones AFTER the callsigns were issued, not the opposite... 73 Paul F6EXV Le 09/01/2012 19:21, R.T.Liddy a écrit : Hi Bernie, You're right.I didn't know that VK9H was Lord Howe until it came back as a New Band Entity on LOTW. I had thought it was Norfolk for some reason. Those French TO#xx Calls are pretty tricky. I guess we always have to stay on our toes since the various Governments across the world refuse to consult the ARRL Entities Prefix List before issuing Calls (hihi). 73/GL, Bob K8BL --- On Mon, 1/9/12, WO2Nw...@att.net wrote: From: WO2Nw...@att.net Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Prefix Logic To: 'R.T.Liddy'k...@ameritech.net, dx4win@mailman.qth.net Date: Monday, January 9, 2012, 8:37 AM Hi Bob, that makes a lot of sense, and easier to remember. There are, I guess always going to be exceptions to the rule, like VK9HR this summer, was on Lord Howl. I have a VK9TR from Willis Is. Pays to double check countries with multi prefixes, you could be holding a rare one, hi. Tnx, GL 73 de Bernie/WO2N. -Original Message- From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of R.T.Liddy Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 12:47 AM To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Prefix Logic It appears to me that an Entity like Willis would have VK9W because Australia actually issues the Calls for there specifically as VK9Wxx. So, the Entity would be obvious from the Call. However, some Countries use the same prefix for several ARRL Entities and there needs to be some way to differentiate them in the database. An HK0 could be San Andres or Malpelo, so a /M is put after the HK0 to specifically denote it as Malpelo. Other eaxmples would be FR and JD1 versus PY0Txx and CE0Yxx. IMHO 73, Bob K8BL --- On Sun, 1/8/12, WO2Nw...@att.net wrote: From: WO2Nw...@att.net Subject: [Dx4win] Prefix Logic To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net Date: Sunday, January 8, 2012, 9:47 PM Looking at the prefix list, What's the reasoning for some multi-prefix countries identified by forward stroked, and others are not? Example Willis is VK9W, but Malpelo is HK0/M. When I search via prefix I don't kn if it wants a / or not.. I kn f1 brings up the list. Tnx for your reply 73,de Bernie/WO2N. __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] Prefix Logic
On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 7:47 PM, WO2N wrote: Looking at the prefix list, What's the reasoning for some multi-prefix countries identified by forward stroked, and others are not? Example Willis is VK9W, but Malpelo is HK0/M. The simple answer is that if a sub-prefix can be specified that is unique to that DXCC entity (i.e. PY0F, PY0S, PY0T or VK9W, VK9L, VK9C), then that prefix (without the slash) is used as the reference prefix. HK0M is not a unique prefix for Malpelo; in fact, other than HK0TU, and an HK5/0 that was on a few years ago, I don't know that any other callsign has been used from there. HK0 is/was also used from San Andres, Bajo Nuevo and Seranna Bank. So that is why the / notation is used. Same for VP8s, E5, FO, etc. 73 - Jim AD1C -- Jim Reisert AD1C, jjreis...@alum.mit.edu, http://www.ad1c.us __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] Prefix Logic
Okay that makes sense, tnx. That's previously stated. That's what I wanted to know so I can take a reasonably close guess when Prefixing searching. BTW Here are my Malpelo QSO's, maybe it will help data base : Date Time BandModeCall sign Country ConfLabel ZoneQSL DateQSL Mgr Callsign Notes QSO Notes 3/11/1990 23:41 14MHz CW HK0TU Malpelo Island Y 9 29/12/01HK3W 4/11/1990 11:55 14MHz SSB HK0TU Malpelo Island Y 9 29/12/01HK3W 5/11/1990 23:30 21MHz CW HK0TU Malpelo Island Y 9 29/12/01HK3W 6/11/1990 20:52 21MHz SSB HK0TU Malpelo Island Y 9 29/12/01HK3W 16/04/0118:20 28MHz CW HK3JJH/HK0 Malpelo Island Y 9 29/12/01Op Pe 26/04/010:307MHzSSB HK3JJH/HK0 Malpelo Island Y 9 29/12/01Op Pe 1/5/200123:17 18MHz SSB HK3JJH/HK0 Malpelo Island Y 9 29/12/01Op Pe 21/06/0123:57 14MHz CW HK5QGX/0M Malpelo Island Y 9 21/09/02JA0MGR 23/06/010:0718MHz SSB HK5MQZ/0M Malpelo Island Y 9 29/12/01862, Tnx,73,de Bernie/WO2N. -Original Message- From: jjreis...@gmail.com [mailto:jjreis...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Jim Reisert AD1C Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 4:08 PM To: WO2N Cc: dx4win@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Prefix Logic On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 7:47 PM, WO2N wrote: Looking at the prefix list, What's the reasoning for some multi-prefix countries identified by forward stroked, and others are not? Example Willis is VK9W, but Malpelo is HK0/M. The simple answer is that if a sub-prefix can be specified that is unique to that DXCC entity (i.e. PY0F, PY0S, PY0T or VK9W, VK9L, VK9C), then that prefix (without the slash) is used as the reference prefix. HK0M is not a unique prefix for Malpelo; in fact, other than HK0TU, and an HK5/0 that was on a few years ago, I don't know that any other callsign has been used from there. HK0 is/was also used from San Andres, Bajo Nuevo and Seranna Bank. So that is why the / notation is used. Same for VP8s, E5, FO, etc. 73 - Jim AD1C -- Jim Reisert AD1C, jjreis...@alum.mit.edu, http://www.ad1c.us __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Dx4win] Prefix Logic
Looking at the prefix list, What's the reasoning for some multi-prefix countries identified by forward stroked, and others are not? Example Willis is VK9W, but Malpelo is HK0/M. When I search via prefix I don't kn if it wants a / or not.. I kn f1 brings up the list. Tnx for your reply 73,de Bernie/WO2N. __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] Prefix Logic
It appears to me that an Entity like Willis would have VK9W because Australia actually issues the Calls for there specifically as VK9Wxx. So, the Entity would be obvious from the Call. However, some Countries use the same prefix for several ARRL Entities and there needs to be some way to differentiate them in the database. An HK0 could be San Andres or Malpelo, so a /M is put after the HK0 to specifically denote it as Malpelo. Other eaxmples would be FR and JD1 versus PY0Txx and CE0Yxx. IMHO 73, Bob K8BL --- On Sun, 1/8/12, WO2N w...@att.net wrote: From: WO2N w...@att.net Subject: [Dx4win] Prefix Logic To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net Date: Sunday, January 8, 2012, 9:47 PM Looking at the prefix list, What's the reasoning for some multi-prefix countries identified by forward stroked, and others are not? Example Willis is VK9W, but Malpelo is HK0/M. When I search via prefix I don't kn if it wants a / or not.. I kn f1 brings up the list. Tnx for your reply 73,de Bernie/WO2N. __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
