Re: [Dx4win] Status

[Art - W6KY via DX4WIN]

 This eMail is from Paul 1 year ago, not 3 years ago..
For myself, DX4WIN exceeds my needs. Between DX4WIN,Clublog and AD1C there is 
nothing about my 200,000++ QSOlog that I can't process.
Paul's eMail below from 9/6/2014.. A year goes fast. I'mlooking for my 
Christmas lights and I just took them down'the other day'..   :)

73, Art   W6KYwww.w6ky.com
 From: Paul van der Eijk <pvandere...@gmail.com>
 To: DX4WIN Reflector <dx4win@mailman.qth.net> 
 Sent: Saturday, September 6, 2014 12:21 PM
 Subject: [Dx4win] Status
   
Before answering too many private emails, I want to share my reply with all
of you:

We signed a contract on a house back in Aug-2012 with expected delivery in
Apr-2013. We sold our house in January 2013, and moved into a small town
house for a few month. Lots of stuff went into storage, including my
radios. But finally after a long wait, we are supposed to close on the new
house at the end of this month. Without the radios connected to my
development computer etc I never felt secure enough to release a new
version. But as soon as the dust settles, I expect to be back in business.
I have collected plenty of suggestions that need work, some of them have
been implemented already.

All DX4WIN users should feel good about the regular updates of the country
database that Jim, AD1C, provides.

--73, Paul, KK4HD

~
DX4WIN logging software
Paul van der Eijk, KK4HD
BrookHill Data Systems LLC
http://www.dx4win.com
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[Dx4win] R: DX4WIN Status -- Observations

[Tibor M. Blum - IK2SAI -]

Running DX4WIN since 1997 (if i remember well rel.:1.08) without missing a
single update - and still enjoing the software - i am sure ready to pay for
an upgrade.
73 de Tibor, IK2SAI

-Messaggio originale-
Da: DX4WIN [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net] Per conto di WB3AAL
Inviato: sabato 17 ottobre 2015 22:07
A: '(K7ZO) Scott Tuthill' <k...@cableone.net>; 'dx4win@mailman.qth.net'
<DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net>
Oggetto: Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN Status -- Observations

Hi Scott and all,

 I would be up to paying for a new version or upgrade!!

Been using the DX4WIN since the early years. Great logging program.

73
Ron Polityka
WB3AAL


-Original Message-
From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net]
On Behalf Of (K7ZO) Scott Tuthill
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 1:00 AM
To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Dx4win] DX4WIN Status -- Observations

First -- to answer AD1C's question I believe 8.05 was released in January
2011. Before that 8.02 was released in September 2009, 8.03 in December
2009, and 8.04 in May 2010.

Second -- to echo other similar comments I am a very long time user of
DX4WIN, since the late '90s. The fact is DX4WIN still works and does what I
need it to do and does it efficiently and reliably. But, my expectations are
simple: keep track of logs and QSL cards, help me track DXCC, and be my
day-to-day real time spot processing, logging, and rig control system. The
log management use is not to be underestimated: between my K7ZO log, my YN5Z
log, and NK7U's logs, the later for whom I have been the manager for 20+
years, I have about 400,000 QSOs to keep track of and I respond to 1,500 QSL
requests a year. Certainly there are more things I use a computer for in the
hobby, but I use other software for them. I did look at Log4OM a year or so
ago as a modern version of a logging program and software suite. It
certainly does a lot more than DX4WIN but converting my logs over was going
to require a huge amount of manual work if I wanted to retain detail beyond
basic QSO data. Yes, some of the Log4OM  features could be added to DX4WIN. 
But, this leads to the next point.

Third -- if we really want Paul to add features to DX4WIN we need to make it
worth his while. Someone's comment mention how using DX4WIN has saved them
from years of upgrade bills. However, this also means that Paul does not
have a financial incentive to spend time on DX4WIN. In other words, we are
getting what we pay for -- nothing. (Other than AD1C's amazing work which
earned him deserved recognition at Dayton.) So we should not complain. And
there are some among us who regularly spend way more on various pieces of
station hardware who would vocally object to a annual software maintenance
fee. The N1MM+ development team, who are motivated by something other than
money, have lowered our sense of the value and worth of software. That is
fine for them, but it is not fair to expect all other developers to follow
the same path. I have no idea how many DX4WIN users there are, nor how much
they are willing to pay for a new release of DX4WIN addressing the top
requests. I would encourage those that want improvements to DX4WIN to rally
the user base and present a financial case to Paul for the work. Other than
that, perhaps there is a way to open source the code and let others add to
it. And, if Paul rationally does not want to spend time on the software
going the open source route might be a great solution for him and for us.

Just my two cents worth.

Scott/K7ZO 

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Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN Status -- Observations

[Gerben A.Menting - PG5M]

I'm also willing to pay.

73, Gerben - PG5M

-Original Message-
From: DX4WIN [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of WB3AAL
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 22:07
To: '(K7ZO) Scott Tuthill'; 'dx4win@mailman.qth.net'
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN Status -- Observations

Hi Scott and all,

 I would be up to paying for a new version or upgrade!!

Been using the DX4WIN since the early years. Great logging program.

73
Ron Polityka
WB3AAL


-Original Message-
From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net]
On Behalf Of (K7ZO) Scott Tuthill
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 1:00 AM
To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Dx4win] DX4WIN Status -- Observations

First -- to answer AD1C's question I believe 8.05 was released in January
2011. Before that 8.02 was released in September 2009, 8.03 in December
2009, and 8.04 in May 2010.

Second -- to echo other similar comments I am a very long time user of
DX4WIN, since the late '90s. The fact is DX4WIN still works and does what I
need it to do and does it efficiently and reliably. But, my expectations are
simple: keep track of logs and QSL cards, help me track DXCC, and be my
day-to-day real time spot processing, logging, and rig control system. The
log management use is not to be underestimated: between my K7ZO log, my YN5Z
log, and NK7U's logs, the later for whom I have been the manager for 20+
years, I have about 400,000 QSOs to keep track of and I respond to 1,500 QSL
requests a year. Certainly there are more things I use a computer for in the
hobby, but I use other software for them. I did look at Log4OM a year or so
ago as a modern version of a logging program and software suite. It
certainly does a lot more than DX4WIN but converting my logs over was going
to require a huge amount of manual work if I wanted to retain detail beyond
basic QSO data. Yes, some of the Log4OM  features could be added to DX4WIN. 
But, this leads to the next point.

Third -- if we really want Paul to add features to DX4WIN we need to make it
worth his while. Someone's comment mention how using DX4WIN has saved them
from years of upgrade bills. However, this also means that Paul does not
have a financial incentive to spend time on DX4WIN. In other words, we are
getting what we pay for -- nothing. (Other than AD1C's amazing work which
earned him deserved recognition at Dayton.) So we should not complain. And
there are some among us who regularly spend way more on various pieces of
station hardware who would vocally object to a annual software maintenance
fee. The N1MM+ development team, who are motivated by something other than
money, have lowered our sense of the value and worth of software. That is
fine for them, but it is not fair to expect all other developers to follow
the same path. I have no idea how many DX4WIN users there are, nor how much
they are willing to pay for a new release of DX4WIN addressing the top
requests. I would encourage those that want improvements to DX4WIN to rally
the user base and present a financial case to Paul for the work. Other than
that, perhaps there is a way to open source the code and let others add to
it. And, if Paul rationally does not want to spend time on the software
going the open source route might be a great solution for him and for us.

Just my two cents worth.

Scott/K7ZO 

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Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN Status -- Observations

[RadioDen45]

Avid users of DX4WIN have been offering to pay for updates for many years 
now with no reply  Sad but true, DX4WIN is still be best logging program 
I have ever used


Regards, Dennis, k0eoo

-Original Message- 
From: Gerben A.Menting - PG5M

Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 4:29 AM
To: DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN Status -- Observations

I'm also willing to pay.

73, Gerben - PG5M

-Original Message-
From: DX4WIN [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of WB3AAL
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 22:07
To: '(K7ZO) Scott Tuthill'; 'dx4win@mailman.qth.net'
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN Status -- Observations

Hi Scott and all,

I would be up to paying for a new version or upgrade!!

Been using the DX4WIN since the early years. Great logging program.

73
Ron Polityka
WB3AAL


-Original Message-
From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net]
On Behalf Of (K7ZO) Scott Tuthill
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 1:00 AM
To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Dx4win] DX4WIN Status -- Observations

First -- to answer AD1C's question I believe 8.05 was released in January
2011. Before that 8.02 was released in September 2009, 8.03 in December
2009, and 8.04 in May 2010.

Second -- to echo other similar comments I am a very long time user of
DX4WIN, since the late '90s. The fact is DX4WIN still works and does what I
need it to do and does it efficiently and reliably. But, my expectations are
simple: keep track of logs and QSL cards, help me track DXCC, and be my
day-to-day real time spot processing, logging, and rig control system. The
log management use is not to be underestimated: between my K7ZO log, my YN5Z
log, and NK7U's logs, the later for whom I have been the manager for 20+
years, I have about 400,000 QSOs to keep track of and I respond to 1,500 QSL
requests a year. Certainly there are more things I use a computer for in the
hobby, but I use other software for them. I did look at Log4OM a year or so
ago as a modern version of a logging program and software suite. It
certainly does a lot more than DX4WIN but converting my logs over was going
to require a huge amount of manual work if I wanted to retain detail beyond
basic QSO data. Yes, some of the Log4OM  features could be added to DX4WIN.
But, this leads to the next point.

Third -- if we really want Paul to add features to DX4WIN we need to make it
worth his while. Someone's comment mention how using DX4WIN has saved them
from years of upgrade bills. However, this also means that Paul does not
have a financial incentive to spend time on DX4WIN. In other words, we are
getting what we pay for -- nothing. (Other than AD1C's amazing work which
earned him deserved recognition at Dayton.) So we should not complain. And
there are some among us who regularly spend way more on various pieces of
station hardware who would vocally object to a annual software maintenance
fee. The N1MM+ development team, who are motivated by something other than
money, have lowered our sense of the value and worth of software. That is
fine for them, but it is not fair to expect all other developers to follow
the same path. I have no idea how many DX4WIN users there are, nor how much
they are willing to pay for a new release of DX4WIN addressing the top
requests. I would encourage those that want improvements to DX4WIN to rally
the user base and present a financial case to Paul for the work. Other than
that, perhaps there is a way to open source the code and let others add to
it. And, if Paul rationally does not want to spend time on the software
going the open source route might be a great solution for him and for us.

Just my two cents worth.

Scott/K7ZO

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Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN Status -- Observations

[Kjell W. Strom]

As a long time user I absolutely agree with the sentiments
expressed in this thread.

73,
Kjell, PB3SM - SM6CPI
 


> -Original Message-
> From: DX4WIN [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On 
> Behalf Of RadioDen45
> Sent: 18 October 2015 15:52
> To: Gerben A.Menting - PG5M; DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN Status -- Observations
> 
> Avid users of DX4WIN have been offering to pay for updates 
> for many years 
> now with no reply  Sad but true, DX4WIN is still be best 
> logging program 
> I have ever used
> 
> Regards, Dennis, k0eoo
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Gerben A.Menting - PG5M
> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 4:29 AM
> To: DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN Status -- Observations
> 
> I'm also willing to pay.
> 
> 73, Gerben - PG5M
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: DX4WIN [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On 
> Behalf Of WB3AAL
> Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 22:07
> To: '(K7ZO) Scott Tuthill'; 'dx4win@mailman.qth.net'
> Subject: Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN Status -- Observations
> 
> Hi Scott and all,
> 
> I would be up to paying for a new version or upgrade!!
> 
> Been using the DX4WIN since the early years. Great logging
program.
> 
> 73
> Ron Polityka
> WB3AAL
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
> [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net]
> On Behalf Of (K7ZO) Scott Tuthill
> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 1:00 AM
> To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Dx4win] DX4WIN Status -- Observations
> 
> First -- to answer AD1C's question I believe 8.05 was 
> released in January
> 2011. Before that 8.02 was released in September 2009, 8.03 
> in December
> 2009, and 8.04 in May 2010.
> 
> Second -- to echo other similar comments I am a very long time
user of
> DX4WIN, since the late '90s. The fact is DX4WIN still works 
> and does what I
> need it to do and does it efficiently and reliably. But, my 
> expectations are
> simple: keep track of logs and QSL cards, help me track DXCC, 
> and be my
> day-to-day real time spot processing, logging, and rig 
> control system. The
> log management use is not to be underestimated: between my 
> K7ZO log, my YN5Z
> log, and NK7U's logs, the later for whom I have been the 
> manager for 20+
> years, I have about 400,000 QSOs to keep track of and I 
> respond to 1,500 QSL
> requests a year. Certainly there are more things I use a 
> computer for in the
> hobby, but I use other software for them. I did look at 
> Log4OM a year or so
> ago as a modern version of a logging program and software
suite. It
> certainly does a lot more than DX4WIN but converting my logs 
> over was going
> to require a huge amount of manual work if I wanted to retain 
> detail beyond
> basic QSO data. Yes, some of the Log4OM  features could be 
> added to DX4WIN.
> But, this leads to the next point.
> 
> Third -- if we really want Paul to add features to DX4WIN we 
> need to make it
> worth his while. Someone's comment mention how using DX4WIN 
> has saved them
> from years of upgrade bills. However, this also means that 
> Paul does not
> have a financial incentive to spend time on DX4WIN. In other 
> words, we are
> getting what we pay for -- nothing. (Other than AD1C's 
> amazing work which
> earned him deserved recognition at Dayton.) So we should not 
> complain. And
> there are some among us who regularly spend way more on 
> various pieces of
> station hardware who would vocally object to a annual 
> software maintenance
> fee. The N1MM+ development team, who are motivated by 
> something other than
> money, have lowered our sense of the value and worth of 
> software. That is
> fine for them, but it is not fair to expect all other 
> developers to follow
> the same path. I have no idea how many DX4WIN users there 
> are, nor how much
> they are willing to pay for a new release of DX4WIN addressing
the top
> requests. I would encourage those that want improvements to 
> DX4WIN to rally
> the user base and present a financial case to Paul for the 
> work. Other than
> that, perhaps there is a way to open source the code and let 
> others add to
> it. And, if Paul rationally does not want to spend time on 
> the software
> going the open source route might be a great solution for him 
> and for us.
> 
> Just my two cents worth.
> 
> Scott/K7ZO
> 
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Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN Status -- Observations

[Bob Garrett]

If Paul is monitoring this list, please just be truthful with us regarding
the future of DX4Win.  If Paul isn't going to move forward with this program
perhaps someone can figure out how to update the code and make it a more
modern logging program.  Like the others on this list, I'd be willing to pay
for an upgrade.  73, Bob K3UL

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Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN Status -- Observations

[Paul F6EXV]

Hi all
I have enjoyed DX4Win for MANY years, and I too would be willing to pay 
for a heavy update.
What puzzles me (and many others I think) is Paul's silence on this 
whole issue.
Over 3 years ago, Paul explained some of the reasons for the delay in 
upgrading : fair enough. BUT he then said it was a matter of months for 
changes.

His ignoring the list, and his customers, is becoming very unpleasant.

Paul, please say something !

73
Paul (anothe one) F6EXV WH7S M0EXV


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Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN Status -- Observations

[WB3AAL]

Hi Scott and all,

 I would be up to paying for a new version or upgrade!!

Been using the DX4WIN since the early years. Great logging program.

73
Ron Polityka
WB3AAL


-Original Message-
From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net]
On Behalf Of (K7ZO) Scott Tuthill
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 1:00 AM
To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Dx4win] DX4WIN Status -- Observations

First -- to answer AD1C's question I believe 8.05 was released in January
2011. Before that 8.02 was released in September 2009, 8.03 in December
2009, and 8.04 in May 2010.

Second -- to echo other similar comments I am a very long time user of
DX4WIN, since the late '90s. The fact is DX4WIN still works and does what I
need it to do and does it efficiently and reliably. But, my expectations are
simple: keep track of logs and QSL cards, help me track DXCC, and be my
day-to-day real time spot processing, logging, and rig control system. The
log management use is not to be underestimated: between my K7ZO log, my YN5Z
log, and NK7U's logs, the later for whom I have been the manager for 20+
years, I have about 400,000 QSOs to keep track of and I respond to 1,500 QSL
requests a year. Certainly there are more things I use a computer for in the
hobby, but I use other software for them. I did look at Log4OM a year or so
ago as a modern version of a logging program and software suite. It
certainly does a lot more than DX4WIN but converting my logs over was going
to require a huge amount of manual work if I wanted to retain detail beyond
basic QSO data. Yes, some of the Log4OM  features could be added to DX4WIN. 
But, this leads to the next point.

Third -- if we really want Paul to add features to DX4WIN we need to make it
worth his while. Someone's comment mention how using DX4WIN has saved them
from years of upgrade bills. However, this also means that Paul does not
have a financial incentive to spend time on DX4WIN. In other words, we are
getting what we pay for -- nothing. (Other than AD1C's amazing work which
earned him deserved recognition at Dayton.) So we should not complain. And
there are some among us who regularly spend way more on various pieces of
station hardware who would vocally object to a annual software maintenance
fee. The N1MM+ development team, who are motivated by something other than
money, have lowered our sense of the value and worth of software. That is
fine for them, but it is not fair to expect all other developers to follow
the same path. I have no idea how many DX4WIN users there are, nor how much
they are willing to pay for a new release of DX4WIN addressing the top
requests. I would encourage those that want improvements to DX4WIN to rally
the user base and present a financial case to Paul for the work. Other than
that, perhaps there is a way to open source the code and let others add to
it. And, if Paul rationally does not want to spend time on the software
going the open source route might be a great solution for him and for us.

Just my two cents worth.

Scott/K7ZO 

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Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN Status -- Observations

[Jim Reisert AD1C]

On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 11:00 PM, (K7ZO) Scott Tuthill wrote:

> First -- to answer AD1C's question I believe 8.05 was released in January
> 2011. Before that 8.02 was released in September 2009, 8.03 in December
> 2009, and 8.04 in May 2010.

Thanks for jogging my memory, Scott.  I believed in my heart of hearts
that there had not been a DX4WIN upgrade since I moved from MA to CO
in 2007.  Obviously, I was wrong.  Still, it feels longer than four
years since the program was last updated.

-- 
Jim Reisert AD1C, , http://www.ad1c.us
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Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN Status -- Observations

[Duane Calvin]

Strange comments in the last couple postings since I don't think I saw
anyone asking Paul to do work on DX4WIN as a free gift.  I think we all
expect to pay if Paul were to work to include more recent rigs (FLEX is one
I'd like to see), modes, and some of the often-requested features.  If we
all thought DX4WIN was a loser, we'd have moved a long time ago, regardless
of the pain.  In many ways it still does more for me than some other
options, but now I have to work around some of its shortcomings more than
ever before.  I'd happily pay for an update that solved those, and I think
most others would too, tho I can only speak for me.

73, Duane 

Duane Calvin, AC5AA
Austin, Texas
ac...@ac5aa.com 


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From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net]
On Behalf Of billriches
Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2015 6:39 AM
To: '(K7ZO) Scott Tuthill'; 'dx4win@mailman.qth.net'
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN Status -- Observations

Hi Scott,

I have been user of DX4WIN since 2009.  I agree with your comments and would
be more that glad to pay for upgrades if they came along.  It is a shame
that some of the comments just reinforce how the cheapskate reputation of
many hams lives on. 

73,

Bill, WA2DVU (1958)
Cape May, NJ

-Original Message-
From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net]
On Behalf Of (K7ZO) Scott Tuthill
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 1:00 AM
To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Dx4win] DX4WIN Status -- Observations

First -- to answer AD1C's question I believe 8.05 was released in January
2011. Before that 8.02 was released in September 2009, 8.03 in December
2009, and 8.04 in May 2010.

Second -- to echo other similar comments I am a very long time user of
DX4WIN, since the late '90s. The fact is DX4WIN still works and does what I
need it to do and does it efficiently and reliably. But, my expectations are
simple: keep track of logs and QSL cards, help me track DXCC, and be my
day-to-day real time spot processing, logging, and rig control system. The
log management use is not to be underestimated: between my K7ZO log, my YN5Z
log, and NK7U's logs, the later for whom I have been the manager for 20+
years, I have about 400,000 QSOs to keep track of and I respond to 1,500 QSL
requests a year. Certainly there are more things I use a computer for in the
hobby, but I use other software for them. I did look at Log4OM a year or so
ago as a modern version of a logging program and software suite. It
certainly does a lot more than DX4WIN but converting my logs over was going
to require a huge amount of manual work if I wanted to retain detail beyond
basic QSO data. Yes, some of the Log4OM  features could be added to DX4WIN. 
But, this leads to the next point.

Third -- if we really want Paul to add features to DX4WIN we need to make it
worth his while. Someone's comment mention how using DX4WIN has saved them
from years of upgrade bills. However, this also means that Paul does not
have a financial incentive to spend time on DX4WIN. In other words, we are
getting what we pay for -- nothing. (Other than AD1C's amazing work which
earned him deserved recognition at Dayton.) So we should not complain. And
there are some among us who regularly spend way more on various pieces of
station hardware who would vocally object to a annual software maintenance
fee. The N1MM+ development team, who are motivated by something other than
money, have lowered our sense of the value and worth of software. That is
fine for them, but it is not fair to expect all other developers to follow
the same path. I have no idea how many DX4WIN users there are, nor how much
they are willing to pay for a new release of DX4WIN addressing the top
requests. I would encourage those that want improvements to DX4WIN to rally
the user base and present a financial case to Paul for the work. Other than
that, perhaps there is a way to open source the code and let others add to
it. And, if Paul rationally does not want to spend time on the software
going the open source route might be a great solution for him and for us.

Just my two cents worth.

Scott/K7ZO 

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Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN Status -- Observations

[billriches]

Hi Scott,

I have been user of DX4WIN since 2009.  I agree with your comments and would
be more that glad to pay for upgrades if they came along.  It is a shame
that some of the comments just reinforce how the cheapskate reputation of
many hams lives on. 

73,

Bill, WA2DVU (1958)
Cape May, NJ

-Original Message-
From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net]
On Behalf Of (K7ZO) Scott Tuthill
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 1:00 AM
To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Dx4win] DX4WIN Status -- Observations

First -- to answer AD1C's question I believe 8.05 was released in January
2011. Before that 8.02 was released in September 2009, 8.03 in December
2009, and 8.04 in May 2010.

Second -- to echo other similar comments I am a very long time user of
DX4WIN, since the late '90s. The fact is DX4WIN still works and does what I
need it to do and does it efficiently and reliably. But, my expectations are
simple: keep track of logs and QSL cards, help me track DXCC, and be my
day-to-day real time spot processing, logging, and rig control system. The
log management use is not to be underestimated: between my K7ZO log, my YN5Z
log, and NK7U's logs, the later for whom I have been the manager for 20+
years, I have about 400,000 QSOs to keep track of and I respond to 1,500 QSL
requests a year. Certainly there are more things I use a computer for in the
hobby, but I use other software for them. I did look at Log4OM a year or so
ago as a modern version of a logging program and software suite. It
certainly does a lot more than DX4WIN but converting my logs over was going
to require a huge amount of manual work if I wanted to retain detail beyond
basic QSO data. Yes, some of the Log4OM  features could be added to DX4WIN. 
But, this leads to the next point.

Third -- if we really want Paul to add features to DX4WIN we need to make it
worth his while. Someone's comment mention how using DX4WIN has saved them
from years of upgrade bills. However, this also means that Paul does not
have a financial incentive to spend time on DX4WIN. In other words, we are
getting what we pay for -- nothing. (Other than AD1C's amazing work which
earned him deserved recognition at Dayton.) So we should not complain. And
there are some among us who regularly spend way more on various pieces of
station hardware who would vocally object to a annual software maintenance
fee. The N1MM+ development team, who are motivated by something other than
money, have lowered our sense of the value and worth of software. That is
fine for them, but it is not fair to expect all other developers to follow
the same path. I have no idea how many DX4WIN users there are, nor how much
they are willing to pay for a new release of DX4WIN addressing the top
requests. I would encourage those that want improvements to DX4WIN to rally
the user base and present a financial case to Paul for the work. Other than
that, perhaps there is a way to open source the code and let others add to
it. And, if Paul rationally does not want to spend time on the software
going the open source route might be a great solution for him and for us.

Just my two cents worth.

Scott/K7ZO 

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Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN Status

[Mike Rhodes]

  Since I started this thread (again), I feel obligated to try and 
clarify a couple of my comments.
  As noted by Duane, I did not intend to insinuate that I thought Paul 
should simply give us something for free and have willingly paid the 
more than reasonable upgrade fees thru the years. I also recognize the 
fact that a full-on rewrite of the program (which would probably be 
required given the new coding tools and OS's available) would surely 
cost more than an upgrade.
  I also must admit that my current level of operation has not 
motivated me beyond a casual glance at some of the more recent logging 
applications.
  What DOES bother me though, is the COMPLETE LACK of COMMUNICATION 
from the author. Even if Paul were to announce that 8.05 is the final 
version of DX4Win, I am not sure I would abandon the program. However, 
it seems a bit disrespectful of his user base that we have been told 
nothing, other than a comment many months ago that some personal issues 
had finally been cleared up after several years of struggle.
  I also recognize that a rewrite of DX4Win would be a HUGE commitment 
of time and resources which just may not be available. If that is, in 
fact, the case, a simple acknowledgement would go a long way in soothing 
my (and probably others) slightly ruffled feathers, not that my 'ruffled 
feathers' are of any significant consequence.
  I'm hoping this note comes off as constructive criticism rather than 
bashing. If it appears to any as bashing, I apologize in advance.
  On a final note, I have to assume that there are expenses involved 
with maintaining the DX4Win (and the AD1C) websites and this list. I 
must guiltily admit to having never contributed directly to any of the 
above. If someone could advise appropriate amounts and methods, I think 
a number of us might be moved to attempt to help defray some of those 
expenses.


Mike / W8DN
DX4Win Since Version 0.97


On 10/6/2015 7:18 PM, Jim wrote:

Like a lot of loyal DX4WIN users, I have waited around for years looking for
that email from Paul announcing an upgrade. But now I have to agree with
Mike/W8DN. Paul owes it to the DX4WIN community to inform us if DX4WIN has
indeed gone into permanent non-support. That way we could avoid waiting
around for an upgrade that is never to come and could start planning on
moving on (regrettably).


73

Jim KS1J

-Original Message-
From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net]
On Behalf Of Mike Rhodes
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2015 12:04 PM
To: DX4WIN
Subject: [Dx4win] Fwd: Re: Updated Statellite List?


...and NO WORD from the author as to whether updates are even being
considered. As noted before, we are extremely lucky to have ancillary
support from Jim/AD1C.
I guess I should be more mellow. After all, I have saved a TON of money
on update fees and the program does NEARLY everything I want it to. However,
with that being said, it would REALLY be nice to know if there is ANY future
for DX4Win beyond the OUTSTANDING support by Jim (and the user community of
course).
Along a similar line though, I imagine that any changes would probably
involve a complete rewrite in a new (i.e., different) programming language
and that would bring a whole new generation of issues, affectionately known
as bugs or undocumented features. However, it might at the same time provide
an opportunity to make DX4Win available to the Linux community as well.

Mike / W8DN
DX4Win Since Version 0.97

On 10/3/2015 1:22 AM, Jim Reisert AD1C wrote:

On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 5:07 PM, Sean K.  wrote:


Will these new satellites be added to DX4WIN soon?

Sean, it would require software changes.  There have not been any
software changes to DX4WIN in at least 8 years, I can't exactly
remember when DX4WIN 8.05 was released.  Take that for what it's
worth.

73 - Jim AD1C




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[Dx4win] DX4WIN Status -- Observations

[(K7ZO) Scott Tuthill]

First -- to answer AD1C's question I believe 8.05 was released in January 
2011. Before that 8.02 was released in September 2009, 8.03 in December 
2009, and 8.04 in May 2010.


Second -- to echo other similar comments I am a very long time user of 
DX4WIN, since the late '90s. The fact is DX4WIN still works and does what I 
need it to do and does it efficiently and reliably. But, my expectations are 
simple: keep track of logs and QSL cards, help me track DXCC, and be my 
day-to-day real time spot processing, logging, and rig control system. The 
log management use is not to be underestimated: between my K7ZO log, my YN5Z 
log, and NK7U's logs, the later for whom I have been the manager for 20+ 
years, I have about 400,000 QSOs to keep track of and I respond to 1,500 QSL 
requests a year. Certainly there are more things I use a computer for in the 
hobby, but I use other software for them. I did look at Log4OM a year or so 
ago as a modern version of a logging program and software suite. It 
certainly does a lot more than DX4WIN but converting my logs over was going 
to require a huge amount of manual work if I wanted to retain detail beyond 
basic QSO data. Yes, some of the Log4OM  features could be added to DX4WIN. 
But, this leads to the next point.


Third -- if we really want Paul to add features to DX4WIN we need to make it 
worth his while. Someone's comment mention how using DX4WIN has saved them 
from years of upgrade bills. However, this also means that Paul does not 
have a financial incentive to spend time on DX4WIN. In other words, we are 
getting what we pay for -- nothing. (Other than AD1C's amazing work which 
earned him deserved recognition at Dayton.) So we should not complain. And 
there are some among us who regularly spend way more on various pieces of 
station hardware who would vocally object to a annual software maintenance 
fee. The N1MM+ development team, who are motivated by something other than 
money, have lowered our sense of the value and worth of software. That is 
fine for them, but it is not fair to expect all other developers to follow 
the same path. I have no idea how many DX4WIN users there are, nor how much 
they are willing to pay for a new release of DX4WIN addressing the top 
requests. I would encourage those that want improvements to DX4WIN to rally 
the user base and present a financial case to Paul for the work. Other than 
that, perhaps there is a way to open source the code and let others add to 
it. And, if Paul rationally does not want to spend time on the software 
going the open source route might be a great solution for him and for us.


Just my two cents worth.

Scott/K7ZO 


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Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN Status

[Duane Calvin]

Agreed.  However, understand that if you plan to move all your QSL info,
credits, etc., to a new logger, be prepared to do a lot it manually
(whatever you can't recover from LOTW award credits).  That, and not finding
another logger that can present all the information I need in a very small
screen space are what has held me back from moving.  I'm hoping against hope
that Paul will eventually have time to do some upgrading for new rigs, etc.

73, Duane  (here from the start!) 

Duane Calvin, AC5AA
Austin, Texas
ac...@ac5aa.com 

-Original Message-
From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net]
On Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 6:19 PM
To: 'DX4WIN'
Subject: [Dx4win] DX4WIN Status

Like a lot of loyal DX4WIN users, I have waited around for years looking for
that email from Paul announcing an upgrade. But now I have to agree with
Mike/W8DN. Paul owes it to the DX4WIN community to inform us if DX4WIN has
indeed gone into permanent non-support. That way we could avoid waiting
around for an upgrade that is never to come and could start planning on
moving on (regrettably). 


73

Jim KS1J

-Original Message-
From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net]
On Behalf Of Mike Rhodes
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2015 12:04 PM
To: DX4WIN
Subject: [Dx4win] Fwd: Re: Updated Statellite List?


...and NO WORD from the author as to whether updates are even being
considered. As noted before, we are extremely lucky to have ancillary
support from Jim/AD1C.
   I guess I should be more mellow. After all, I have saved a TON of money
on update fees and the program does NEARLY everything I want it to. However,
with that being said, it would REALLY be nice to know if there is ANY future
for DX4Win beyond the OUTSTANDING support by Jim (and the user community of
course).
   Along a similar line though, I imagine that any changes would probably
involve a complete rewrite in a new (i.e., different) programming language
and that would bring a whole new generation of issues, affectionately known
as bugs or undocumented features. However, it might at the same time provide
an opportunity to make DX4Win available to the Linux community as well.

Mike / W8DN
DX4Win Since Version 0.97

On 10/3/2015 1:22 AM, Jim Reisert AD1C wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 5:07 PM, Sean K. <k...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Will these new satellites be added to DX4WIN soon?
> Sean, it would require software changes.  There have not been any 
> software changes to DX4WIN in at least 8 years, I can't exactly 
> remember when DX4WIN 8.05 was released.  Take that for what it's 
> worth.
>
> 73 - Jim AD1C
>



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[Dx4win] DX4Win Status

[Alan Walters]

OK.  I haven't been here since the "beginning," only since v5.  I moved from
Log Windows to DX4Win in the late 1990's when Log Windows was having
problems with authors and support, and I have not regretted the move one
instant.

Sure, there are some who wish various enhancements, mostly ability to record
the new digital modes.  I for one would like the see the membership of a
call propagate into the logging window to help me when it comes time to
decide how to QSL.  I am sure there are others with various wants.  Life is
tough, and sometime requires work arounds.

But please tell me, what is it in DX4Win that doesn't work? And with AD1C's
wonderful support page, what is it you don't know how to do?  Paul has a
"day job," and maybe he will get around to an update; maybe he won't.

If not, I think you are still using the best general logging package in
Amateur Radio.  Sure, there are others that are coming along, and if you
want to go through the pain of transition and then the pain of the learning
curve, have at it!

Best wishes to all,
Al Walters, K5NOF
k5...@arrl.net

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[Dx4win] DX4WIN Status

[Jim]

Like a lot of loyal DX4WIN users, I have waited around for years looking for
that email from Paul announcing an upgrade. But now I have to agree with
Mike/W8DN. Paul owes it to the DX4WIN community to inform us if DX4WIN has
indeed gone into permanent non-support. That way we could avoid waiting
around for an upgrade that is never to come and could start planning on
moving on (regrettably). 


73

Jim KS1J

-Original Message-
From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net]
On Behalf Of Mike Rhodes
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2015 12:04 PM
To: DX4WIN
Subject: [Dx4win] Fwd: Re: Updated Statellite List?


...and NO WORD from the author as to whether updates are even being
considered. As noted before, we are extremely lucky to have ancillary
support from Jim/AD1C.
   I guess I should be more mellow. After all, I have saved a TON of money
on update fees and the program does NEARLY everything I want it to. However,
with that being said, it would REALLY be nice to know if there is ANY future
for DX4Win beyond the OUTSTANDING support by Jim (and the user community of
course).
   Along a similar line though, I imagine that any changes would probably
involve a complete rewrite in a new (i.e., different) programming language
and that would bring a whole new generation of issues, affectionately known
as bugs or undocumented features. However, it might at the same time provide
an opportunity to make DX4Win available to the Linux community as well.

Mike / W8DN
DX4Win Since Version 0.97

On 10/3/2015 1:22 AM, Jim Reisert AD1C wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 5:07 PM, Sean K.  wrote:
>
>> Will these new satellites be added to DX4WIN soon?
> Sean, it would require software changes.  There have not been any 
> software changes to DX4WIN in at least 8 years, I can't exactly 
> remember when DX4WIN 8.05 was released.  Take that for what it's 
> worth.
>
> 73 - Jim AD1C
>



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Re: [Dx4win] Status

[Radivoj Kar, F6GNZ via DX4WIN]

Hi Roger,
Tried your suggestion, but unfortunately it does not work: 

enter wrong callsign, enter report, enter name, receive correct callsign, 
cursor back to callsign field, correct the callsign: name is lost! 
73, Radi F6GNZ



Le Lundi 8 septembre 2014 1h00, Roger D Johnson n...@roadrunner.com a écrit :
 



Hi Radi...

Try this: Go to; FILE; Preferences; QSO. Unclick callsign update

73, Roger

go to file;

On 9/7/2014 5:36 PM, Radivoj Kar, F6GNZ via DX4WIN wrote:
 Hi Paul,

 Glad that your new home problems have been solved. I was in a similar 
 situation about 10 years ago. So, we shall be waiting until you restore your 
 operating position and are expecting some good news, though I found the 
 program is still the winner,

 I would like still to ask you if, and how, the following issue could be 
 solved:
 It often happens at a start of QSO that I enter an incomplete or errored 
 call followed by the correct name and grid locator. On the next over, I 
 receive the correct callsign and as soon as correct it, the entered name and 
 locator data dissapears. Sometimes I can recall them, but often not. Is 
 there a way to keep these info unchanged before the QSO is logged by hitting 
 enter? I gues I am not the only one to whom it happens...

 Best 73, Radi F6GNZ



 Le Dimanche 7 septembre 2014 11h03, David Stroutdjsa...@comcast.net  a 
 écrit :



 I would be lost without DX4WIN. Over 300K Q's in the log.  I always felt
 that if Jim AD1C took all the time he does to update it, it's shelf life
 would be long.
 Dave, W2YC

 - Original Message -
 From: Paul F6EXVf6...@wanadoo.fr
 To:dx4win@mailman.qth.net
 Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2014 08:35
 Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Status


 Hi Paul
 Thank you very much for taking the time to give us these explanations.
 We sympathize with your difficulties.
 Many requests have been made over the past few months, so good to read
 you will be working on some.
 DX4Win does basically what I expect from a logging program, and I do not
 intend to change to, for example one that has
   updates almost every day
 (a pain in the neck)
 We will be looking forward to reading about the implemented
 chagesupdates when your time permits, at keast we know something will
 happen.
 Keep up with the good work ! Thanks and also thanks to AD1C.

 Best 73
 Paul F6EXV

 Le 06/09/2014 21:21, Paul van der Eijk a écrit :
 Before answering too many private emails, I want to share my reply with
 all
 of you:

 We signed a contract on a house back in Aug-2012 with expected delivery in
 Apr-2013. We sold our house in January 2013, and moved into a small town
 house for a few month. Lots of stuff went into storage, including my
 radios. But finally after a long wait, we are supposed to close on the new
 house at the end of this month. Without the radios connected to my
 development computer etc I never felt secure enough to release a new
 version. But as soon
   as the dust settles, I expect to be back in business.
 I have collected plenty of suggestions that need work, some of them have
 been implemented already.

 All DX4WIN users should feel good about the regular updates of the country
 database that Jim, AD1C, provides.

 --73, Paul, KK4HD

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Re: [Dx4win] Status

[Mikhail Bondarev]

Hi Paul! Thanks a lot for a good news! I'm using DX4WIN for many years
and I don't like to change my logbook software. If you will release a
new version (9.0 ?) I'll pay for upgrade for sure! Please don't forget
some long awaiting features:

1. More then one antenna rotor support
2. More easy procedure for LoTW upload/download
3. If I entered Name or IOTA ref. etc and after that changed call sign
(even one letter), all field are lost. Please make possible to turn
off this function.
4. Auto reconnection to DX Cluster if connection was lost and auto
connection on start up.
More ???

With best regards,
Mike R3BM

2014-09-06 23:21 GMT+04:00 Paul van der Eijk pvandere...@gmail.com:
 Before answering too many private emails, I want to share my reply with all
 of you:

 We signed a contract on a house back in Aug-2012 with expected delivery in
 Apr-2013. We sold our house in January 2013, and moved into a small town
 house for a few month. Lots of stuff went into storage, including my
 radios. But finally after a long wait, we are supposed to close on the new
 house at the end of this month. Without the radios connected to my
 development computer etc I never felt secure enough to release a new
 version. But as soon as the dust settles, I expect to be back in business.
 I have collected plenty of suggestions that need work, some of them have
 been implemented already.

 All DX4WIN users should feel good about the regular updates of the country
 database that Jim, AD1C, provides.

 --73, Paul, KK4HD

 ~
 DX4WIN logging software
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 BrookHill Data Systems LLC
 http://www.dx4win.com
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Re: [Dx4win] Status

[Paul F6EXV]

Hi Paul
Thank you very much for taking the time to give us these explanations.
We sympathize with your difficulties.
Many requests have been made over the past few months, so good to read 
you will be working on some.
DX4Win does basically what I expect from a logging program, and I do not 
intend to change to, for example one that has updates almost every day 
(a pain in the neck)
We will be looking forward to reading about the implemented 
chagesupdates when your time permits, at keast we know something will 
happen.

Keep up with the good work ! Thanks and also thanks to AD1C.

Best 73
Paul F6EXV

Le 06/09/2014 21:21, Paul van der Eijk a écrit :

Before answering too many private emails, I want to share my reply with all
of you:

We signed a contract on a house back in Aug-2012 with expected delivery in
Apr-2013. We sold our house in January 2013, and moved into a small town
house for a few month. Lots of stuff went into storage, including my
radios. But finally after a long wait, we are supposed to close on the new
house at the end of this month. Without the radios connected to my
development computer etc I never felt secure enough to release a new
version. But as soon as the dust settles, I expect to be back in business.
I have collected plenty of suggestions that need work, some of them have
been implemented already.

All DX4WIN users should feel good about the regular updates of the country
database that Jim, AD1C, provides.

--73, Paul, KK4HD

~
DX4WIN logging software
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BrookHill Data Systems LLC
http://www.dx4win.com
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Re: [Dx4win] Status

[David Strout]

I would be lost without DX4WIN. Over 300K Q's in the log.  I always felt 
that if Jim AD1C took all the time he does to update it, it's shelf life 
would be long.

Dave, W2YC

- Original Message - 
From: Paul F6EXV f6...@wanadoo.fr

To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2014 08:35
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Status


Hi Paul
Thank you very much for taking the time to give us these explanations.
We sympathize with your difficulties.
Many requests have been made over the past few months, so good to read
you will be working on some.
DX4Win does basically what I expect from a logging program, and I do not
intend to change to, for example one that has updates almost every day
(a pain in the neck)
We will be looking forward to reading about the implemented
chagesupdates when your time permits, at keast we know something will
happen.
Keep up with the good work ! Thanks and also thanks to AD1C.

Best 73
Paul F6EXV

Le 06/09/2014 21:21, Paul van der Eijk a écrit :
Before answering too many private emails, I want to share my reply with 
all

of you:

We signed a contract on a house back in Aug-2012 with expected delivery in
Apr-2013. We sold our house in January 2013, and moved into a small town
house for a few month. Lots of stuff went into storage, including my
radios. But finally after a long wait, we are supposed to close on the new
house at the end of this month. Without the radios connected to my
development computer etc I never felt secure enough to release a new
version. But as soon as the dust settles, I expect to be back in business.
I have collected plenty of suggestions that need work, some of them have
been implemented already.

All DX4WIN users should feel good about the regular updates of the country
database that Jim, AD1C, provides.

--73, Paul, KK4HD

~
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Paul van der Eijk, KK4HD
BrookHill Data Systems LLC
http://www.dx4win.com
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Re: [Dx4win] Status

[Radivoj Kar, F6GNZ via DX4WIN]

Hi Paul,

Glad that your new home problems have been solved. I was in a similar situation 
about 10 years ago. So, we shall be waiting until you restore your operating 
position and are expecting some good news, though I found the program is still 
the winner,

I would like still to ask you if, and how, the following issue could be solved:
It often happens at a start of QSO that I enter an incomplete or errored call 
followed by the correct name and grid locator. On the next over, I receive the 
correct callsign and as soon as correct it, the entered name and locator data 
dissapears. Sometimes I can recall them, but often not. Is there a way to keep 
these info unchanged before the QSO is logged by hitting enter? I gues I am not 
the only one to whom it happens...

Best 73, Radi F6GNZ



Le Dimanche 7 septembre 2014 11h03, David Strout djsa...@comcast.net a écrit :
 



I would be lost without DX4WIN. Over 300K Q's in the log.  I always felt 
that if Jim AD1C took all the time he does to update it, it's shelf life 
would be long.
Dave, W2YC

- Original Message - 
From: Paul F6EXV f6...@wanadoo.fr
To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2014 08:35
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Status


Hi Paul
Thank you very much for taking the time to give us these explanations.
We sympathize with your difficulties.
Many requests have been made over the past few months, so good to read
you will be working on some.
DX4Win does basically what I expect from a logging program, and I do not
intend to change to, for example one that has
 updates almost every day
(a pain in the neck)
We will be looking forward to reading about the implemented
chagesupdates when your time permits, at keast we know something will
happen.
Keep up with the good work ! Thanks and also thanks to AD1C.

Best 73
Paul F6EXV

Le 06/09/2014 21:21, Paul van der Eijk a écrit :
 Before answering too many private emails, I want to share my reply with 
 all
 of you:

 We signed a contract on a house back in Aug-2012 with expected delivery in
 Apr-2013. We sold our house in January 2013, and moved into a small town
 house for a few month. Lots of stuff went into storage, including my
 radios. But finally after a long wait, we are supposed to close on the new
 house at the end of this month. Without the radios connected to my
 development computer etc I never felt secure enough to release a new
 version. But as soon
 as the dust settles, I expect to be back in business.
 I have collected plenty of suggestions that need work, some of them have
 been implemented already.

 All DX4WIN users should feel good about the regular updates of the country
 database that Jim, AD1C, provides.

 --73, Paul, KK4HD

 ~
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 BrookHill Data Systems LLC
 http://www.dx4win.com
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Re: [Dx4win] Status

[Art - W6KY via DX4WIN]

Hi Paul,


About 20 years ago several of us in the Southern Calif Contest Club and
the San Diego DX Club discovered DX4WIN. All of us had some rinky
dink DOS programs we were using and changing weekly. We all jumped
on board and it was magic!  It still is! N6ND(SK) led the charge.

Personally I like a few extra steps to do certain functions in DX4WIN. Has
saved my butt many times as I get right to the point of saving and realize
how screwed up I have things.. Automatic, there is no back out.. I am
71 and it actually helps to think about what I am doing...

Daily updates, bring up the program, what the hell is this??? It either doesn't
work anymore or you don't recognize what you are looking at. Example:
N1MM. Love the program, but they used to upgrade it several times per
week.

My only request, as I have grown to love digital, is better PSK(multiple
decodes)and add JT-65 and JT-9...


So, after 20+ years, several upgrades (all good) I am not 'hanging in there'.
I am extremely pleased and will use DX4WIN till I go SK. 

But, but, but I do have $$ set aside for ver 9.0   :)

200,000+ Q's since 1989 (and a few hundred from 1958-1960 and 1968)


73, Art  W6KY
www.w6ky.com

 
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Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms.. Who is bringing the Chips?...



 From: Paul van der Eijk pvandere...@gmail.com
To: DX4WIN Reflector dx4win@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Saturday, September 6, 2014 12:21 PM
Subject: [Dx4win] Status
 

Before answering too many private emails, I want to share my reply with all
of you:

We signed a contract on a house back in Aug-2012 with expected delivery in
Apr-2013. We sold our house in January 2013, and moved into a small town
house for a few month. Lots of stuff went into storage, including my
radios. But finally after a long wait, we are supposed to close on the new
house at the end of this month. Without the radios connected to my
development computer etc I never felt secure enough to release a new
version. But as soon as the dust settles, I expect to be back in business.
I have collected plenty of suggestions that need work, some of them have
been implemented already.

All DX4WIN users should feel good about the regular updates of the country
database that Jim, AD1C, provides.

--73, Paul, KK4HD

~
DX4WIN logging software
Paul van der Eijk, KK4HD
BrookHill Data Systems LLC
http://www.dx4win.com
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[Dx4win] Status

[Paul van der Eijk]

Before answering too many private emails, I want to share my reply with all
of you:

We signed a contract on a house back in Aug-2012 with expected delivery in
Apr-2013. We sold our house in January 2013, and moved into a small town
house for a few month. Lots of stuff went into storage, including my
radios. But finally after a long wait, we are supposed to close on the new
house at the end of this month. Without the radios connected to my
development computer etc I never felt secure enough to release a new
version. But as soon as the dust settles, I expect to be back in business.
I have collected plenty of suggestions that need work, some of them have
been implemented already.

All DX4WIN users should feel good about the regular updates of the country
database that Jim, AD1C, provides.

--73, Paul, KK4HD

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Re: [Dx4win] Status

[PY2YP]

Take your time Paul I'll wait for the new version.

73 DX de PY2YP - Cesar

On 6/9/2014 16:21, Paul van der Eijk wrote:

I have collected plenty of suggestions that need work, some of them have
been implemented already.

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