Re: [Dx4win] USV to CIV

2009-08-21 Thread Mel
No thanks Kostas. It is fairly obvious from your response and others I 
have corresponded with at length that these cheap Chinese interfaces 
sold on eBay do NOT work properly... they are introducing errors and 
relying on error correction in the programs to make them work after a 
fashion.

Kostas SV1DPI wrote:
 Mel i have bought one usb to ci-v from ebay for my ic910. The cost was 
 something like 10-15$. it works fb with other programs but i had 
 problems with dx4win. d4w reads strange frequencies. As i read recently 
 the problem exists with others. But i have not tried the solutions. 
 Maybe i can find my supplier if you are interesting. Kostas sv1dpi
 
 - Original Message - From: Mel ve...@videotron.ca
 To: DX4WIN dx4win@mailman.qth.net
 Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 12:14 AM
 Subject: [Dx4win] USV to CIV
 
 
 Are there any converters from USB directly to CI-V recommended. I
 already have a USB-RS232 and a RS232 to CI-V... but I would like to
 simplify the cabling. I see some advertised on ebay very inexpensively
 but considering some members experiences I am pretty sure some don't
 work very well. Are there any that work other than the Rigtalk which is
 a bit pricey at $60.

 Mel, VE2DC
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Re: [Dx4win] USV to CIV

2009-08-21 Thread Rick Murphy
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Melve...@videotron.ca wrote:
 No thanks Kostas. It is fairly obvious from your response and others I
 have corresponded with at length that these cheap Chinese interfaces
 sold on eBay do NOT work properly... they are introducing errors and
 relying on error correction in the programs to make them work after a
 fashion.

DX4WIN doesn't read all of the response string from the rig when it's
checking what mode is currently set. When the next command is sent,
DX4WIN sees the leftover garbage and recovers. The lack of buffering
in the cheap interfaces means that this leftover garbage isn't
reliably read and confuses the next command (which is what reads the
VFO). All that I do is to fix the command definition to read the
entire response.

You can see this for yourself using your current interface:
File/Databases/Radios, select the Test tab, then click Read a few
times. Notice that every time DX4WIN complains about garbage ignored
or something like that.

Fixing this bug makes the cheap interface 100% reliable, at least for
me. The non-USB interface still works fine as well (even though it
didn't require the fix).
73,
-Rick
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[Dx4win] USV to CIV

2009-08-20 Thread Mel
Are there any converters from USB directly to CI-V recommended. I 
already have a USB-RS232 and a RS232 to CI-V... but I would like to 
simplify the cabling. I see some advertised on ebay very inexpensively 
but considering some members experiences I am pretty sure some don't 
work very well. Are there any that work other than the Rigtalk which is 
a bit pricey at $60.

Mel, VE2DC
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Re: [Dx4win] USV to CIV

2009-08-20 Thread Rick Murphy
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Melve...@videotron.ca wrote:
 Are there any converters from USB directly to CI-V recommended. I
 already have a USB-RS232 and a RS232 to CI-V... but I would like to
 simplify the cabling. I see some advertised on ebay very inexpensively
 but considering some members experiences I am pretty sure some don't
 work very well. Are there any that work other than the Rigtalk which is
 a bit pricey at $60.

My USB CI-V adapter was an inexpensive eBay purchase that worked sort
of OK for most DX4WIN operations (clicking onto a spot reliably set
the rig to the spot freq) but didn't reliably read the rig's
frequency. I've discovered that this is due to an error in the rig
files that's pretty easily fixed. While the current DX4WIN operation
doesn't follow the CI-V specification, there's enough ambiguity in
that spec that my change could break some CI-V rigs.

If you can't reliably read the VFO off of your ICOM, let me know and
I'll tell you how to fix it. Actually, if your CI-V rig works now, and
you're willing to try the fix, let me know and I'll explain. I don't
think the fix will break anyone but will allow less robust adapters to
work right.
73,
-Rick
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