[e-gold-list] two-cents-worth vs. clicktwocents.com (again)
For a while now norse-concepts has been having a lot of bad things to say about two-cents-worth.com. This is strange because two-cents- worth.com is an entirely FREE service and there is really no need for heavy competition. Here is a comparison: clicktwocents can ONLY accept a payment of 0.02g two-cents-worth accepts any amount the donor wishes to give clicktwocents can ONLY accept e-gold payments two-cents-worth accepts payments from multiple currencies clicktwocents attempts to send the donor back to the referring page two-cents-worth does this too clicktwocents shows the correct payee name in the SCI two-cents-worth does this too Two-cents-worth also has a whole host of other good features that clicktwocents doesn't: You can have a custom URL that accepts donations of any amount in multiple currencies http://two-cents-worth.com/?metalescrow You can receive an e-mail each time you receive a tip or donation. You can customise the return URL after the payment to any web page you choose. http://two-cents-worth.com/?pecb You can customise the memo in the SCI memo field. http://two-cents-worth.com/?jmr You can set your own merchant reference for the donations. Obviously, for people who are only interested in receiving donations of exactly 0.02g of e-gold without notification, clicktwocents is probably the answer. For everyone else there is two-cents-worth.com. If you wish to get yourself a custom URL like this http://two-cents- worth.com/?sidd and all the features that go with it, visit: http://two-cents-worth.com/subscribe.cfm http://two-cents-worth.com/subscribe.cfm http://two-cents-worth.com/subscribe.cfm Have fun and if there are any questions please feel free to ask them to this list so everyone can benefit from extra knowledge and suggestions. Regards, Sidd. http://two-cents-worth.com/?sidd http://two-cents-worth.com/?500227WGM http://two-cents-worth.com/?108164EG http://108164.clicktwocents.com - Faxes delivered directly to any email address, new to mBox! Find out more http://www.mbox.com.au/fax --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: two-cents-worth vs. clicktwocents.com (again)
At 09:57 PM 27/03/2002 +1200, Sidd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For a while now norse-concepts has been having a lot of bad things to say about two-cents-worth.com. This is strange because two-cents- worth.com is an entirely FREE service and there is really no need for heavy competition. Here is a comparison: SNIP I do agree. We love you too! It is great to have all of these different free ways to get paid in (four e-metals at e-gold) or in other currencies too! In fact, I have modified my 2cw signature to give people a choice! Best regards, Ian Green http://two-cents-worth.com/?107242EG www.107242.clicktwocents.com e-gold estas monda mono! [Esperanto] e-gold is world money! [English] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold transaction history format suggestion
Ah, yes! Thanks for reminding me. I remember now, in the days before Excel automatically opened .csv files, importing transaction lists into Excel and Access, and / or Lotus 1-2-3, and SuperCalc, and specifying date formats before completing the import! Still, it would be greatly appreciated if the dates were already in the right format. :) At 10:51 AM 26/03/2002 -0500, Jay W. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SNIP try this (it works for me in ms excel 2000)... Data - Get External Data - Import Text File ... SNIP Column data format * Date MDY (tell excel first column is of date Month-Day-Year format) SNIP Ian Green http://www.107242.clicktwocents.com/ e-gold, e-silver, e-platinum, e-palladium Elemental, my dear Watson! --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Fast batch number confirmation URL idea!
Along the same lines as the brilliant FastSCI and clicktwocents URLs, how about this for e-gold to provide? Imagine someone sends you a batch number from a payment confirmation. e-metal® payment confirmations currently provide a batch number like this: Batch 5754885 What if each payment confirmation page came with a line like this?: The recipient may go to http://5754885.e-gold.com/ to confirm the details of this payment. Or the following as a transitional method. http://www.e-gold.com/batch.cgi?5754885 and clicking it (in this e-mail for example) firstly brought you to a login page at the secure e-gold website, and when logged in you would then be immediately presented with either a message like this: This batch number is for e-metal® payment confirmation: Batch 5754885 Paid To: 107242 (Ian Green) Amount: ... Memo: ... From: ... Actual payment weight = ... Applicable Conversion factors: ... and so forth. OR a message like this: This batch number is not a payment involving your logged in account. http://fastsci.com/?107242-1-gold e-gold (elektronika oro) estas elementa mono (EO) http://ao.com.au/e-gold.htm - (EN) PS: The previous (and first) time I used this new signature I accidentally typed ora instead of oro. Sorry about that!! Esperanto is a precise language, and ora means gold (adjective), while oro means gold (noun)! e-gold does not merely represent gold coloured bars, but real gold! e-gold estas ora mono, sed estas vere oro! e-gold is golden money, but is truly gold! http://www.ao.com.au/esperanto/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Buying Gold in Cyprus, Europe
Yo! Anyone knows of a place where I can buy e-gold in cyprus using a regular cyprus bank transfer? I got a client in Cyprus that wants to buy e-gold using his bank account so he keeps fees to an absolute minimum. I saw that goldnow.st will accept cypriot deposits in the near future but I need the e-gold now he he he. Bye4now! Martijn email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold transaction history format suggestion
Adam, I agree with you, and consider your pointing out the international (ISO) standard to be quite a valuable contribution, except that I tested it and it doesn't work in Microsoft Excel (and maybe not in any other modern software except by indirect means! Excel will not convert to date with time if the T is present. Excel does not support the time zone parameter! The minus values have no effect on the time display and the + and Z values cause the field to be interpreted as plain text. As both the date and time components (of my Microsoft-compatible suggestion) are ISO 8601 compliant on their own, I suggest the only way (to satisfy the need both for any easy human-readable format and for seamless spreadsheet input) is to present the Date and Time delimited by a space (Microsoft will read it in as a single Date/Time value), and the time zone in its own distinct field (if it is deemed necessary to include it). eg. 2002-03-26 03:46,-5 Of course we will need another field in the header for the Time Zone, but if it is always shown in UTC (or US EST) then it will be redundant to include it in every line. I strongly recommend simply using UTC/GMT (equals Z or +00), and therefore not stating the time zone in transaction lists, which brings us back to my original suggestion. eg. 2002-03-26 08:46, Regards, Ian Green At 01:45 PM 26/03/2002 -0600, G. Adam Stanislav [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SNIP Personally, I would like it to go all the way to following international standards, i.e., ISO 8601, which would look just SNIP be called GMT). So, your examples (assuming UTC) would become: 2002-02-26T06:56Z 2002-03-01T03:51Z SNIP tell you that I was born 1950-04-23T00:30+01 - that is 1 hour SNIP Since this format is an official ISO standard (and has been for years), most modern software should be able to interpret it correctly. Markus Kuhn maintains a nice web page about this particular standard at http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/iso-time.html - it is well worth reading and implementing. SNIP --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Fast batch number confirmation URL idea!
Way to go, JP! At 12:10 AM 28/03/2002 +1100, you wrote: This already exists in 1mdcGrams, Ian! SNIP --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] RE: Fast batch number confirmation URL idea!
it's a monster, but it actually works! https://www.e-gold.com/acct/history.asp?initial=1startmonth=1startday=1st artyear=1996endmonth=1endday=1endyear=2010paymentmade=checkboxpaymentsr eceived=checkboxSubmit2=View+Detailed+Historybatchfilter=5584017 (this probably gets chopped so you have to join it back together) it should be quite easy to write a simple html redirect page to that long URL.. something like this: http://tp4.dhs.org/batch.php?5584017 [ batch.php ]- html head ? $url = https://www.e-gold.com/acct/history.asp?initial=1;. startmonth=1startday=1startyear=1996. endmonth=1endday=1endyear=2010. paymentmade=checkboxpaymentsreceived=checkbox. Submit2=View+Detailed+Historybatchfilter= . $argv[0]; ? meta http-equiv=refresh content=0;url=? echo $url; ? /head body redirecting... /body /html --- Mati Malsub IceGold http://fastsci.com/?124876-.02-usd-gold --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: two-cents-worth vs. clicktwocents.com (again)
On Wednesday, March 27, 2002, at 04:57 AM, Sidd wrote: ... Sometimes I feel like Tom Sawyer, with my huge bucket of whitewash. :) Who wants to bet against Norse Concepts adding features right left in the next week or so? I'd say it's a pretty sure thing...but Sidd's message didn't mention the free features of http://www.fastsci.com also provided by Norse Concepts, so I'd say the tech-race is pretty even! Fastsci just simply ROCKS, IMO, anyone who hasn't tried it must do so right away! JMR --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: two-cents-worth vs. clicktwocents.com (again)
For a while now norse-concepts has been having a lot of bad things to say about two-cents-worth.com. Only a couple of bad things, which you have since corrected. It was mainly a lot of good things about clicktwocents. This is strange because two-cents-worth.com is an entirely FREE service So is clicktwocents, but two-cents-worth isn't entirely FREE. All the additional features cost 1 AUG. and there is really no need for heavy competition. Why does there have to be a need? clicktwocents shows the correct payee name in the SCI two-cents-worth does this too It didn't do this until clicktwocents arrived on the scene, and starting promoting this feature. Two-cents-worth also has a whole host of other good features that clicktwocents doesn't: Today... yes Forever... no Hasn't anybody ever heard of a demo release; getting something, anything, functional and out the door? Check out the new look at http://www.clicktwocents.com It's not the big news we promised, that's still to come, but keep a close watch out for more rants from Sidd about how two-cents-worth is still better than clicktwocents. - Norse Concepts __ http://456789.clicktwocents.com --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] ClickTwoCents v0.2 released
You can receive an e-mail each time you receive a tip or donation. Enjoy! http://www.clicktwocents.com http://www.clicktwocents.com http://www.clicktwocents.com - Norse Concepts _ http://456789.clicktwocents.com/?[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold transaction history format suggestion
Since this format is an official ISO standard (and has been for years), most modern software should be able to interpret it correctly. sarcasm But I thought that the original question involved Microsoft Excel. /sarcasm -- David Beroff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Founder/CEO, LeadFactory.com P.O. Box 234, Jenkintown, PA 19046-0234 (USA) http://LeadFactory.com Voice: +1 (215) 576-6800 Fax: +1 (215) 576-6853 ICQ: 3652887 Toll-free: 1.800.668.3163 Home page: http://David.Beroff.com --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: two-cents-worth vs. clicktwocents.com (again)
James M. Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but Sidd's message didn't mention the free features of http://www.fastsci.com also provided by Norse Concepts But Jim, The fastSCI is a completely different thing! You must set an exact amount for the fastSCI interface... It is NOT suited to variable sized donations... FastSCI is EXCELLENT but it's not in the same category as the 2cw's. (thanks JPM for BOTH these excellent ideas!) Norse Concepts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but two-cents-worth isn't entirely FREE. All the additional features cost 1 AUG. Not so... http://two-cents-worth.com/subscribe.cfm but keep a close watch out for more rants from Sidd about how two-cents-worth is still better than clicktwocents :-) http://456789.clicktwocents.com/?[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wow, that's a pretty URL... mine looks like this! http://two-cents-worth.com/?sidd ;-) Cheers, Sidd. - Faxes delivered directly to any email address, new to mBox! Find out more http://www.mbox.com.au/fax --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: two-cents-worth vs. clicktwocents.com (again)
Deulling programmers! It's good for everyone else that both groups are so talented Rock on! -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - I was talkin' to an eskimo, said he was hopin' for a fall of snow, when up jumped a sea lion ready to go Sir Paul McCartney - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] XML/X - part II
--- begin forwarded text Status: U Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:25:27 -0500 (EST) From: Ian Grigg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: XML/X - part II Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] In Part I, I discussed XML/X as a spend or transfer interface. It specifies a standard way to deliver an instruction to a DGC to cause a transaction. XML/X specifies the content of such a request (not how to get it to the server, as will become apparant below). It also assumes that you are in control of the entire process, so it doesn't, for example, address the needs for shopping cart interfaces (SCIs). Sorry about that. For all that, the universe of needs that XML/X addresses remains quite stellar. It is the next need that we talk about in this missive, Part II. It was while we were scratching around thinking how to proceed with implementation that Erwin came up with the extraordinary idea of expanding the transfer interface to cover *all* aspects of a spend system. Thus, using the XML/X interface as the bridge between the backend and the frontend components of a DGC. Or, in other words, a website can talk XMLX/X to a backend that implements the protocol. This opens up a whole new world of possibilities. Some of the most innovative work in digital currencies has been done by simply layering one system on another. That is, creating a new digital currency by reserving and spending through another. This method allows the new upper layer to take the best of the lower, fix the bad parts, and present a superior product to the users. An example for this would be the 1mdc service, which provides a zero-transaction fee access to e-gold. I don't quite understand how it survives as a business, but I don't care: the important thing is that it is out there innovating, improving our economy, testing the edges of our understanding and business models. Or, look at the Islamic Mint's e-dinar which provides a different look feel whilst maintaining the same transactional equation. All achieve slick extensions to the overall capabilities, but at a huge cost: They have to program through to the original systems, which are simply not designed for such layering. Imagine if all systems exposed their essential capabilities through one standard programmable interface: the innovation and experimentation of layering would receive a huge boost. Don't try and program those systems, go out there and build your own, with a standardised XML/X that allows you to talk direct to the metal, almost. Not only that, building a straight DGC would now be de-risked. A potential builder of a system would go out and purchase a standard XML/X backend. Imagine that, would you like single or double entry scoops with your database Sir? How many nodes with that? Start with that discount single entry junior model and upgrade to the real stuff when you get your first customer transaction. Don't knock it, our original Ricardo Issuer lasted until well into 1996 before we upgraded the quantity and quality of entries :-) Then off to the 'Alley for a contract web site to drive your hot new backend. Choose from a team that is good at web sites but thinks a transfer happens in JFK. Try them out on XML. If they still grumble about the airport coffee, you know you are on the right track. Sounds simple, but in that separation lies a huge advantage. Only people who have tried to build these systems know how hard, how almost impossible it is to achieve progress without the right separation between teams. By separating out the backend from the frontend like that, we've created a situation where a backend can be built from ready components. In a nutshell, all DGC transactions are essentially the same. They can all be modelled on a bog-standard double entry accounting engine. So let's get that model encapsulated into an interface; that's what we are trying to do with XML/X. Just as equally, all DGC web sites have a standard set of features. Once the interface is defined, any good and competant web house in the world can produce a good site. The next insight presented by XML/X requires a bit more thought. But, in a sense, whilst it may be only a small step for a programmer standing on the right lunar ladder, it's a giant digital leap into the rarified atmosphere of governance, it's the mass transit system of planetary commuting, it's ... TRANSFERRED TO ANOTHER SPACE-TIME CONTINUUM! --- end forwarded text -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation http://www.ibuc.com/ 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA The IBUC Symposium on Geodesic Capital April 3-4, 2002, The Downtown Harvard Club, Boston mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] for details... ... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found
[e-gold-list] Re: two-cents-worth vs. clicktwocents.com (again)
On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 08:50:06 +1100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Deulling programmers! It's good for everyone else that both groups are so talented Rock on! I agree entirely. There is nothing wrong with having competition - even for a free donation facilitating services. Besides, there's nothing preventing users from choosing to give potential donators the choice of either system :) -- Matthew Schlegel Founder Gold Builders International http://www.goldbuilders.com http://www.385355.clicktwocents.com http://two-cents-worth.com/?goldbuilders --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
