[e-gold-list] Re: DGC, OSgold, exhangers, judgements - CaveatEmptor

2003-06-11 Thread jpm
... I used the term DGC a bit more loosely, as it seems to
be becoming a common practice, even for currencies that have no known
backing and dubious backers
Robert's right, it's an excellent point.  The fact is DGC does not 
at all MEAN actual gold or 100% backed or anything like that, and 
as Robert says the other fact is DGC is often used to mean quasi-gold 
systems, OSGold, evocash or the like.

DGC is no good anyway, because, who says it is or should be used as 
a currency?  The fact is it's gold that you can transfer ownership 
of on a web page -- the fact that that leads to it being USED AS 
(sometimes) a currency, is just a benefit.

I killed off the earlier GBC (remember that?) since it contains the 
word backed which implicitly means fractional reserve (even if it's 
100% backed that;s not the same as actual gold we store for you) 
(For instance, a 1% backed GBC would be a GBC.)

I suggested at one point using some sort of complex acronym, it was 
something like .. FAGWANE -- fungible actual gold [--forget these 
two letters--], no encumbrances

Other catchy ideas are say, AGOTBI (Actual Gold, Ownership 
Transferable By Inernet)

Then there's the gaining-in-popularity IG -- Internet Gold which 
is fairly direct.  (It's Just gold and that's it - it's 
internet-type gold, but it's just gold) althogh it is not absolutely 
positively an explanation of the situation (like FAGWANE or maybe 
AGOTBI)

The very point is that the ideal acronym or name (maybe internet 
old) should very specifically absolutely reject the notion

Pay me five grams of AGOTBI at this time if anyone liked this post :-)

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[e-gold-list] Re: DGC, OSgold, exhangers, judgements

2003-06-11 Thread Craig Spencer
On 11 Jun 2003, at 1:26, Robert S.Z. wrote: 

  OSGold was never a DGC.  It was, from the beginning,
  a scam -- nothing else.  
 
 You are right that in reality it never was backed by gold, of
 course, although there were intial claims that it would be.

It has nothing to do with whether or not there was backing.  It was
a just a scam.  They took people's money under false pretenses for the
sole purpose of stealing it.

Someone who offers to sell debit cards for the purpose of taking
whatever money gullible people send and keeping it is not a merchant
with a low inventory; he is a thief.

Best,

CCS



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[e-gold-list] Re: DGC, OSgold, exhangers, judgements - Caveat Emptor

2003-06-10 Thread Craig Spencer
Dear Robert S.Z.,  

Your post makes an error in regarding OSGold as a DGC that 
failed.  OSGold was never a DGC.  It was, from the beginning,
a scam -- nothing else.  The amazing thing is that the crooks
were able to keep running their scam for over a year.

Best,

CCS



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