Re: call for spec suggestions
this should have gone to the list sorry... the replyto really should give you edubuntu-users, not the last user... On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 5:18 PM, David Van Assche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At a school level you cannot even give access to the console let alone expect them to learn databasing that way. In my school, I have had to disable console access for every student because just one student was bright enough to get into the console and misuse it to bypass the proxy, dansguardian or take a look at files that they shouldn't, thereby passing that knowldege on. Before someone tells me that I should secure the console, let me point out that there are hundreds of ways of bypassing the proxy with ssh tunnels, etc In the UK curriculum one clearly needs to use either a) Access (and if you are under linux wine) -- impossible unless your clients are low fat b) OOobase - it works, the wizard works, and I've done A/S A2 end of year projects with it with great results... David On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Craig E. Szymanski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Krsnendu dasa wrote: | On 15/04/2008, Charles Austin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oli, | Thanks for all the great work on this project. It really is wonderful. | | My wish is for a stable Sabayon application. A GUI where admins can | set desktop and application preferences (i.e. Firefox homepage, | bookmarks) globally. Sabayon seems to be seriously broken in 7.10. | I have had the same experience with Sabayon in Gusty. It would be great to have a stable version in Hardy. Thanks, Craig | | Charles | I agree. This is important. To be able to set menus, homepages etc by group would be great. I have never got Sabayon to work since Feisty. I am on Hardy now. | | -- edubuntu-users mailing list edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users -- edubuntu-users mailing list edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users -- edubuntu-users mailing list edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users
Re: call for spec suggestions
I second this request. The ability to globally admin user preferences is my #1 need. Sabayon has been broken for a long time and is pretty clumsy to boot. Gconf2 is pretty arcane as well. Is there any way to build on the KDEKiosk tool? john On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 4:48 AM, Charles Austin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oli, Thanks for all the great work on this project. It really is wonderful. My wish is for a stable Sabayon application. A GUI where admins can set desktop and application preferences (i.e. Firefox homepage, bookmarks) globally. Sabayon seems to be seriously broken in 7.10. Charles On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 8:25 AM, Oliver Grawert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, as we're nearing the release its about time to collect some input on educational specs to work on in intrepid ibex (8.10) as you might have noticed edubuntu changed a lot in hardy ... i.e. things that are definately server related (network auth for example or most parts of ltsp ) will in the future be handled by the server or platform teams, all plain educational duties will still be handled in the edubuntu team though. so i'm looking for valuable input on specs to work on for intrepid that are plainly edu related, feel free to forward this mail to forums or other public places so we get a good list :) two specs that i have on my radar already are for example: * improvement and more automation of italc classroom management (get the usability for key handling right, automatically detect classrooms) * edubuntu menus: group or task driven menu setups (science students should only have science apps in the menu etc ...) probably even attached to a schedule that automatically reshuffles the menu depending on the lesson you give/get feel free to add more :) ciao oli -- edubuntu-users mailing list edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users -- edubuntu-users mailing list edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users -- edubuntu-users mailing list edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users
Re: call for spec suggestions
- Krsnendu dasa wrote: | On 15/04/2008, Charles Austin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oli, | Thanks for all the great work on this project. It really is wonderful. | | My wish is for a stable Sabayon application. A GUI where admins can | set desktop and application preferences (i.e. Firefox homepage, | bookmarks) globally. Sabayon seems to be seriously broken in 7.10. | I have had the same experience with Sabayon in Gusty. It would be great to have a stable version in Hardy. Thanks, Craig | | Charles | I agree. This is important. To be able to set menus, homepages etc by group would be great. I have never got Sabayon to work since Feisty. I am on Hardy now. | | -- edubuntu-users mailing list edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users -- edubuntu-users mailing list edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users
Re: call for spec suggestions
Sameer Verma kirjoitti: I'd recommend exploring the lowfat client angle a bit more. Perhaps make it more automated. We could even have a process that allows us to pick and choose specific feature sets that go into building the client (thin, lowfat, fat, etc). The future for LTSP5 belongs to the fat clients, I'm afraid. In here Finland I can buy pure Intel-based fat client for same money. What I loose? Maybe silence for start HP Compaq dx2300: Intel Celeron D 430, 1.6 GHz Intel 946GZ 1024 MB 160 GB Intel GMA 3000 291.75 € 25 HP T5135: VIA Eden, 400 MHz Shared video, 16 Mt UMA 289 € = 1 Best Regards Asmo Koskinen. -- edubuntu-users mailing list edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users
Re: call for spec suggestions
Asmo Koskinen wrote: Sameer Verma kirjoitti: I'd recommend exploring the lowfat client angle a bit more. Perhaps make it more automated. We could even have a process that allows us to pick and choose specific feature sets that go into building the client (thin, lowfat, fat, etc). The future for LTSP5 belongs to the fat clients, I'm afraid. I'm not sure I follow you. If you meant that fat clients are the only way to go, I would disagree. There are still quite a few scenarios that warrant the need for thin clients. Its just that is situations such as ours, we have brand new machines that are being used as thin clients. They are brand new, so they have a lot of processing power and memory. However, the decision to buy brand new machines was made without considering the thin client approach - these computers were purchased to run XP or Vista locally. In our case, we would benefit by offloading the processing from the server to the desktops, while keeping package management and backups central. Being able to manage updates/upgrades, backups, authentication and authorization centrally is a great plus, even in a lowfat environment. We do have schools in the San Francisco Bay Area that do not have money for labs, so they rely on hand-me-down slow PII and PIII machines. This is where the thin client approach makes most sense. In here Finland I can buy pure Intel-based fat client for same money. What I loose? Maybe silence for start HP Compaq dx2300: Intel Celeron D 430, 1.6 GHz Intel 946GZ 1024 MB 160 GB Intel GMA 3000 291.75 € 25 HP T5135: VIA Eden, 400 MHz Shared video, 16 Mt UMA 289 € = 1 Best Regards Asmo Koskinen. The costs are not really that different in the US. The situation that benefits most from a thin client setup is one where the desktops are donated by some organization because these machines are too slow for them. Sameer -- Dr. Sameer Verma, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Information Systems San Francisco State University San Francisco CA 94132 USA http://verma.sfsu.edu/ http://opensource.sfsu.edu/ -- edubuntu-users mailing list edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users
Re: call for spec suggestions
On 15/04/2008, Charles Austin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oli, Thanks for all the great work on this project. It really is wonderful. My wish is for a stable Sabayon application. A GUI where admins can set desktop and application preferences (i.e. Firefox homepage, bookmarks) globally. Sabayon seems to be seriously broken in 7.10. Charles I agree. This is important. To be able to set menus, homepages etc by group would be great. I have never got Sabayon to work since Feisty. I am on Hardy now. -- edubuntu-users mailing list edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users
Re: call for spec suggestions
Oli, Thanks for all the great work on this project. It really is wonderful. My wish is for a stable Sabayon application. A GUI where admins can set desktop and application preferences (i.e. Firefox homepage, bookmarks) globally. Sabayon seems to be seriously broken in 7.10. Charles On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 8:25 AM, Oliver Grawert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, as we're nearing the release its about time to collect some input on educational specs to work on in intrepid ibex (8.10) as you might have noticed edubuntu changed a lot in hardy ... i.e. things that are definately server related (network auth for example or most parts of ltsp ) will in the future be handled by the server or platform teams, all plain educational duties will still be handled in the edubuntu team though. so i'm looking for valuable input on specs to work on for intrepid that are plainly edu related, feel free to forward this mail to forums or other public places so we get a good list :) two specs that i have on my radar already are for example: * improvement and more automation of italc classroom management (get the usability for key handling right, automatically detect classrooms) * edubuntu menus: group or task driven menu setups (science students should only have science apps in the menu etc ...) probably even attached to a schedule that automatically reshuffles the menu depending on the lesson you give/get feel free to add more :) ciao oli -- edubuntu-users mailing list edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users -- edubuntu-users mailing list edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users
Re: call for spec suggestions
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 2:55 AM, nigel barker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I appreciate these answers, but this is far away from my needs. I am not teaching CS to high school students. I teach mostly primary and middle school classes, and we use the computer to do tasks which are useful in the mainstream classes. According to UK and International Baccalaureate curriculum documents young kids are supposed to be able to use databases. Obviously this would be a GUI app, maybe even simpler than Access. I don't know what windows schools use, but it would seem there must be something, otherwise these curriculum writers wouldn't have got these ideas. I wholeheartedly agree. Teaching the very basics of database is far easier with a GUI - especially when it comes to concepts like primary keys and joins. I deal with lower and middle school students as well - CLI databases is not a good way to introduce the concepts. Robert Arkiletian wrote: On 4/14/08, Uwe Geercken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would recommend to anyone, who wants to learn a database, to start on the console. same as for learning html, jave, etc. you can always switch to a GUI at a later point of time in the process but at the start it is important to learn the bascis and not have a tool do the work. From my experience, learning databases was pretty easy, but I had the Access 2.0 GUI. Maybe I am a slow or special learner, but I cannot imagine learning about cross table queries without some sort of visual reference. That being said, I have been strictly MySQL (command line) for quite some time now. Once you learn the basics, the CLI is far superior. This is way off topic by now, but you have to learn to walk before you can run. Regards, Charles -- edubuntu-users mailing list edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users
Re: call for spec suggestions
Hi, On Tue, 15 Apr 2008, Charles Austin wrote: I wholeheartedly agree. Teaching the very basics of database is far easier with a GUI - especially when it comes to concepts like primary keys and joins. I deal with lower and middle school students as well - CLI databases is not a good way to introduce the concepts. I can imagine trying to get through syntax issues would be something of a distraction alright. I wonder would these be of any use? http://www.mysql.com/products/tools/query-browser/ Looks a bit more like SQL Server than Access, but I haven't tried it so maybe there's other views. Gavin -- edubuntu-users mailing list edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users
Re: call for spec suggestions
Charles Austin wrote: On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 2:55 AM, nigel barker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I appreciate these answers, but this is far away from my needs. I am not teaching CS to high school students. I teach mostly primary and middle school classes, and we use the computer to do tasks which are useful in the mainstream classes. According to UK and International Baccalaureate curriculum documents young kids are supposed to be able to use databases. Obviously this would be a GUI app, maybe even simpler than Access. I don't know what windows schools use, but it would seem there must be something, otherwise these curriculum writers wouldn't have got these ideas. I wholeheartedly agree. Teaching the very basics of database is far easier with a GUI - especially when it comes to concepts like primary keys and joins. I deal with lower and middle school students as well - CLI databases is not a good way to introduce the concepts. Robert Arkiletian wrote: On 4/14/08, Uwe Geercken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would recommend to anyone, who wants to learn a database, to start on the console. same as for learning html, jave, etc. you can always switch to a GUI at a later point of time in the process but at the start it is important to learn the bascis and not have a tool do the work. From my experience, learning databases was pretty easy, but I had the Access 2.0 GUI. Maybe I am a slow or special learner, but I cannot imagine learning about cross table queries without some sort of visual reference. That being said, I have been strictly MySQL (command line) for quite some time now. Once you learn the basics, the CLI is far superior. This is way off topic by now, but you have to learn to walk before you can run. Regards, Charles Try SQL Designer. It runs in your browser and is quite visual (drag and drop etc) and will spit out code for MySQL etc. Very neat. http://ondras.zarovi.cz/sql/ Sameer -- Dr. Sameer Verma, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Information Systems San Francisco State University San Francisco CA 94132 USA http://verma.sfsu.edu/ http://opensource.sfsu.edu/ -- edubuntu-users mailing list edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users
Re: call for spec suggestions
Oliver Grawert wrote: hi, as we're nearing the release its about time to collect some input on educational specs to work on in intrepid ibex (8.10) as you might have noticed edubuntu changed a lot in hardy ... i.e. things that are definately server related (network auth for example or most parts of ltsp ) will in the future be handled by the server or platform teams, all plain educational duties will still be handled in the edubuntu team though. so i'm looking for valuable input on specs to work on for intrepid that are plainly edu related, feel free to forward this mail to forums or other public places so we get a good list :) two specs that i have on my radar already are for example: * improvement and more automation of italc classroom management (get the usability for key handling right, automatically detect classrooms) * edubuntu menus: group or task driven menu setups (science students should only have science apps in the menu etc ...) probably even attached to a schedule that automatically reshuffles the menu depending on the lesson you give/get feel free to add more :) ciao oli I'd recommend exploring the lowfat client angle a bit more. Perhaps make it more automated. We could even have a process that allows us to pick and choose specific feature sets that go into building the client (thin, lowfat, fat, etc). Sameer -- Dr. Sameer Verma, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Information Systems San Francisco State University San Francisco CA 94132 USA http://verma.sfsu.edu/ http://opensource.sfsu.edu/ -- edubuntu-users mailing list edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users
Re: call for spec suggestions
I would recommend to anyone, who wants to learn a database, to start on the console. same as for learning html, jave, etc. you can always switch to a GUI at a later point of time in the process but at the start it is important to learn the bascis and not have a tool do the work. mysql is very good for that from my experience. rgds, uwe Quoting nigel barker [EMAIL PROTECTED]: David Van Assche wrote: Part of the UK curriculum is about sensors which includes things like picking up mics, etc... so that working on the the thin clients would definitely be important if possible. Talking of the UK curriculum, how do you teach databases? I have been struggling with OOo bugs, such as broken form wizard, and now drop down lists. Overall the OOo Base experience is less than ideal, yet Kexi has just as many problems. What do you use? And to add to your suggestion, the Vernier web site has some linux downloads that are difficult to get working, and that don't support USB. It would be great if a datalogging application for the science lab could be included. One of the few places we still have to use windows. http://www.vernier.com/linux/index.html cheers nigel On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 9:40 PM, Gavin McCullagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On Wed, 09 Apr 2008, dbclinton wrote: This might not be exclusive to educational needs, but it can certainly be useful in the classroom: is it possible to enable microphones on thin clients (as I've reported before on this list, mics and the sound output from some non-native Linux apps don't behave well - often playing on the server's speakers)? To go a little further and get the value from the work, I'd say: SIP and Audio Recording (audacity) on thin clients. Gavin -- edubuntu-users mailing list edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users -- edubuntu-users mailing list edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users -- edubuntu-users mailing list edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users
Re: call for spec suggestions
On 4/14/08, Uwe Geercken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would recommend to anyone, who wants to learn a database, to start on the console. same as for learning html, jave, etc. you can always switch to a GUI at a later point of time in the process but at the start it is important to learn the bascis and not have a tool do the work. I agree. mysql is very good for that from my experience. sqlite is also perfect for this task. The database is just a file and there is no setup. Permissions are simply set by file permissions. -- Robert Arkiletian Eric Hamber Secondary, Vancouver, Canada Fl_TeacherTool http://www3.telus.net/public/robark/Fl_TeacherTool/ C++ GUI tutorial http://www3.telus.net/public/robark/ -- edubuntu-users mailing list edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users
Re: call for spec suggestions
I appreciate these answers, but this is far away from my needs. I am not teaching CS to high school students. I teach mostly primary and middle school classes, and we use the computer to do tasks which are useful in the mainstream classes. According to UK and International Baccalaureate curriculum documents young kids are supposed to be able to use databases. Obviously this would be a GUI app, maybe even simpler than Access. I don't know what windows schools use, but it would seem there must be something, otherwise these curriculum writers wouldn't have got these ideas. A spreadsheet could probably be used instead for many examples, but trying to use Calc to merge into Writer doesn't work either - you have to open a dummy Base. The OOo database experience is not simple on any level. Anyway, my request is for a simple gui database app, if it exists! nigel Robert Arkiletian wrote: On 4/14/08, Uwe Geercken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would recommend to anyone, who wants to learn a database, to start on the console. same as for learning html, jave, etc. you can always switch to a GUI at a later point of time in the process but at the start it is important to learn the bascis and not have a tool do the work. I agree. mysql is very good for that from my experience. sqlite is also perfect for this task. The database is just a file and there is no setup. Permissions are simply set by file permissions. -- edubuntu-users mailing list edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users
Re: call for spec suggestions
David Van Assche wrote: Part of the UK curriculum is about sensors which includes things like picking up mics, etc... so that working on the the thin clients would definitely be important if possible. Talking of the UK curriculum, how do you teach databases? I have been struggling with OOo bugs, such as broken form wizard, and now drop down lists. Overall the OOo Base experience is less than ideal, yet Kexi has just as many problems. What do you use? And to add to your suggestion, the Vernier web site has some linux downloads that are difficult to get working, and that don't support USB. It would be great if a datalogging application for the science lab could be included. One of the few places we still have to use windows. http://www.vernier.com/linux/index.html cheers nigel On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 9:40 PM, Gavin McCullagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On Wed, 09 Apr 2008, dbclinton wrote: This might not be exclusive to educational needs, but it can certainly be useful in the classroom: is it possible to enable microphones on thin clients (as I've reported before on this list, mics and the sound output from some non-native Linux apps don't behave well - often playing on the server's speakers)? To go a little further and get the value from the work, I'd say: SIP and Audio Recording (audacity) on thin clients. Gavin -- edubuntu-users mailing list edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users -- edubuntu-users mailing list edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users
Re: call for spec suggestions
Part of the UK curriculum is about sensors which includes things like picking up mics, etc... so that working on the the thin clients would definitely be important if possible. On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 9:40 PM, Gavin McCullagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On Wed, 09 Apr 2008, dbclinton wrote: This might not be exclusive to educational needs, but it can certainly be useful in the classroom: is it possible to enable microphones on thin clients (as I've reported before on this list, mics and the sound output from some non-native Linux apps don't behave well - often playing on the server's speakers)? To go a little further and get the value from the work, I'd say: SIP and Audio Recording (audacity) on thin clients. Gavin -- edubuntu-users mailing list edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users -- edubuntu-users mailing list edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users
Re: call for spec suggestions
Thanks for asking. here are a few things I would like to see. (Maybe they are already in Hardy.) Some improvements to Thin Client Manager would be welcome. Especially an easy way to view the student desktops. Easier ways to lock Firefox/ web browser settings. Maybe a make (a lot of) user accounts from a list script. I know there is stuff for that or you can write your own but it might be nice to have that available out of the box. It's already excellent. Oliver Grawert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4/9/2008 8:25 AM hi, as we're nearing the release its about time to collect some input on educational specs to work on in intrepid ibex (8.10) as you might have noticed edubuntu changed a lot in hardy ... i.e. things that are definately server related (network auth for example or most parts of ltsp ) will in the future be handled by the server or platform teams, all plain educational duties will still be handled in the edubuntu team though. so i'm looking for valuable input on specs to work on for intrepid that are plainly edu related, feel free to forward this mail to forums or other public places so we get a good list :) two specs that i have on my radar already are for example: * improvement and more automation of italc classroom management (get the usability for key handling right, automatically detect classrooms) * edubuntu menus: group or task driven menu setups (science students should only have science apps in the menu etc ...) probably even attached to a schedule that automatically reshuffles the menu depending on the lesson you give/get feel free to add more :) ciao oli -- edubuntu-users mailing list edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users
Re: call for spec suggestions
Hi, On Wed, 09 Apr 2008, dbclinton wrote: This might not be exclusive to educational needs, but it can certainly be useful in the classroom: is it possible to enable microphones on thin clients (as I've reported before on this list, mics and the sound output from some non-native Linux apps don't behave well - often playing on the server's speakers)? To go a little further and get the value from the work, I'd say: SIP and Audio Recording (audacity) on thin clients. Gavin -- edubuntu-users mailing list edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users
Re: call for spec suggestions
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 8:25 AM, Oliver Grawert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so i'm looking for valuable input on specs to work on for intrepid that are plainly edu related, feel free to forward this mail to forums or other public places so we get a good list :) SchoolTool is aiming for a 1.0 beta release in Intrepid. We're also aiming at having a complete set of snapshot .debs, and an automated process for generating more, in sync with the Hardy release. So we should be able to get in on the beginning of the process with Intrepid instead of trying to squeeze in at the end. We are coming out the long process of Debian's reorganizing its Python packages, the Python community's re-organizing its own packaging, and Zope 3 re-organizing itself, all of which has cause the ground to continually shift under SchoolTool's feet. Once Zope 3.4 final comes out, we can start to push packages into Debian. We've ended up inheriting responsibility for doing Debian packaging an unfortunately large part of the Zope 3 infrastructure and components. --Tom -- edubuntu-users mailing list edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users
Re: call for spec suggestions
On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 14:25 +0200, Oliver Grawert wrote: so i'm looking for valuable input on specs to work on for intrepid that are plainly edu related, feel free to forward this mail to forums or other public places so we get a good list :) This might not be exclusive to educational needs, but it can certainly be useful in the classroom: is it possible to enable microphones on thin clients (as I've reported before on this list, mics and the sound output from some non-native Linux apps don't behave well - often playing on the server's speakers)? Thanks, David two specs that i have on my radar already are for example: -- edubuntu-users mailing list edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users
