[Elecraft] KPA100 Low Power on 30m 20m bands

2005-05-25 Thread Barry Cooper - Relcom
Hi,
I have completed the final alignment and test of my KPA100 amplifier which is 
working well in almost every respect other than relatively lower power output 
on the 30m and 20m bands. Measured power output is as follows:

80m 117W
40m 113W
30m 71W - initially flashes Hi Cur message
20m 75W - initially flashes Hi Cur
18m 105W
12m 103W
10m 99W

Power output measured at antenna socket across 50 ohm load using Tek scope and 
calulating Pwr = Vpp^2/400.
I have checked the inductors and capacitors in the two LPF chains. Everything 
appears ok, i.e. correct toroids used wound with correct number of turns. All 
capacitors check out as correct value with correct placement.
CAL CUR set at 3.5 as indicated in setup. Power output displayed on K2 matches 
calculated output power to within 2-3W. K2 running barefoot gives more than 10W 
on all bands.

Help please! Where do I look next?

Barry
G4RKO
K2 - 4703

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA100 Low Power on 30m 20m bands

2005-05-25 Thread Ted Turk

Barry,

Hard luck but do not worry, you are not alone!  You are the third that 
we know of in the UK and there was another in the USA.  Let Gary 
Surrency at support know. In my case, a scope along the RF chain showed 
that there were signal voltage (and estimated current) losses across 
the base drive RC network to Q1,2 on the affected bands only.  The 
problem has been temporarily cured by doubling the size of C80,81 in my 
case and Larry's, G0IKE.


Elecraft are investigating and we are awaiting an explanation and cure.

73, Ted G7BQM K2 #4732

On 25 May 2005, at 08:35, Barry Cooper - Relcom wrote:


Hi,
I have completed the final alignment and test of my KPA100 amplifier 
which is working well in almost every respect other than relatively 
lower power output on the 30m and 20m bands. Measured power output is 
as follows:


80m 117W
40m 113W
30m 71W - initially flashes Hi Cur message
20m 75W - initially flashes Hi Cur
18m 105W
12m 103W
10m 99W

Power output measured at antenna socket across 50 ohm load using Tek 
scope and calulating Pwr = Vpp^2/400.
I have checked the inductors and capacitors in the two LPF chains. 
Everything appears ok, i.e. correct toroids used wound with correct 
number of turns. All capacitors check out as correct value with 
correct placement.
CAL CUR set at 3.5 as indicated in setup. Power output displayed on K2 
matches calculated output power to within 2-3W. K2 running barefoot 
gives more than 10W on all bands.


Help please! Where do I look next?

Barry
G4RKO
K2 - 4703

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RE: [Elecraft] kpa800 question

2005-05-25 Thread N2TK, Tony
It has band pass filters in the output - similar concept to the K2/100. I
believe Eric said it is Pi-L. There is no antenna tuner in the amp.
N2TK, Tony



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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] kpa800 question


What I found is that the amp needs to have around 50
watts to be driven to full output.  There is a rule
with the FCC that requires higher drive for full
output so other types (CB types) can't put in 5-watts
and get out 800 watts.  So, the by rule the amp is
limited in drive...I think it is 13 db, but I am not
sure.

The amp is a stand alone and can be used with any rig.

It is 80% the size of an Alpha

It has a built in antenna tunner.  PIN Diode switching
and a switching power supply.

Fully metered too.

Lee - K0WA


Common sense is in short supply - get some and use it.
If you can't find any common sense, ask for help from
somebody that has some common sense. - Lee Buller
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Re: [Elecraft] kpa800 question

2005-05-25 Thread Bob Henderson
N2TK, Tony  said

 There is no antenna tuner in the amp.

Tony

I believe you are mistaken.  I spent some time talking to Eric at Dayton and
also to Dick K4XU, the semiconductor applications engineer involved in the
design.  They left me with a firm impression the amp has an auto-tune atu
built in, together with a switch mode psu.  The 800W version is to be
available in part constructed kit form and also fully built.  Timescales
appear to Fall 05.  A full 1500W is also planned and availability will lag
the 800W version by a few months.  The 1.5kW amp will have an external psu
on which the amp can stand.  Overall size of the amp is approx 80% the size
of an Alpha 87A, with which it shares similar styling.

The 800W version is also planned to be field upgradable to the 1.5 kW spec.

Bob, 5B4AGN, P3F



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[Elecraft] SAFETY BELT - SOLD

2005-05-25 Thread Ed Worst
Thanks for your responses.  The safety belt has a new home.

73,
ed - k9ew
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[Elecraft] SWR and Power readings RE: K2

2005-05-25 Thread Charles Greene

Hi,

I have a question concerning antenna power and SWR.  I am setting my K2 
power at 5 watts via CAT.  The K2 display reads 4.3 F, 0.0r.  An external 
watt/SWR dual meter reads 5.9  +/- 0.2 Fwd and a small value which can't be 
read accurately, Rev.  A Tandem SWR/Power meter reads 7.2 +/-  0.2 watts 
and a SWR of 1.2 +/- 0.1.


The question is, if the SWR is not 1:1, does the power reading which is 
based on the voltage in a 50 ohms load read high or low?   I don't think 
any of my meters have  SWR compensation in the power level reading, if 
there is any.  The Tandem has compensation for diode nonlinearity in low 
power readings.


I had measured the following on the antenna a few days ago using a AIM430 
antenna analyzer: http://w5big.home.comcast.net/sitemap.htm  SWR 1.1:1 +/- 
0.1, Zmag 48.5 +/- 0.5 ohms, Theta +5 +/- 2 degrees, Xs, a small + value, 
can't read it accurately.  I am using the KAT2 so what the K2 display reads 
on r is probably correct or it is less than 0.1 which is the LSD.


Also, if the power level is set by the K2 CAT at 5.0 watts, why is the K2 
display reading 4.3 watts?  If I have a very accurate wattmeter, can I 
calibrate the K2 wattmeter?  How about calibrating the CAT setting?  I 
probably can get a more accurate reading on the Tandem by using a DVM set 
on current in series with its meter(s).


73,  Chas,  W1CG 


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Re: [Elecraft] SWR and Power readings RE: K2

2005-05-25 Thread Lyle Johnson
The question is, if the SWR is not 1:1, does the power reading which is 
based on the voltage in a 50 ohms load read high or low?


It depends :-)

If the SWR is 2:1 and is caused by low impedance (e.g., 25 ohm load) 
then the voltage will be lower for a given power.  If the SWR is caused 
by a higher impedance (e.g., 100 ohm load)) then the voltage will be higher.


Lyle KK7P

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RE: [Elecraft] SWR and Power readings RE: K2

2005-05-25 Thread W3FPR - Don Wilhelm
Chas,

Since you have the KAT2 installed, it may be simply a matter of calibrating
the internal wattmeter in the KAT2.  If you are using TUNE, be aware that
TUNE may produce a power output that is different from the requested power
by up to 0.5 watts (up to 5 watts with the KPA100).

While you can use an external wattmeter for calibration, I really don't
trust any of them (check their specs - usually 20% of full scale is the
speced accuracy, and that is 2 watts on a 10 watt scale).  I use a 'scope
across a good 50 ohm pure resistance and the formula Vp-p^2/400 when
calibrating the forward power (an RF probe could be used instead).  I also
have a 25 ohm and 100 ohm non-reactive dummy load that I use when setting
the SWR at the 2:1 point.  In general, I have found that the REFL pot on the
KAT2 must be set more clockwise than the FWD pot to obtain the proper 2:1
SWR calibration.  Additional note - if the SWR with the 25 ohm load is
different than the 100 ohm load, the balance trimmer cap is not set
properly - if you have similar loads, you can nudge the trimer a bit until
the SWR reported is the came with both loads.

Additional note - the KPA100 and the KAT100 reflected power pot WILL be set
nearly the same as the position on the FWD pot - but the KAT2 settings will
differ quite a bit.

73,
Don W3FPR

 -Original Message-

 I have a question concerning antenna power and SWR.  I am setting my K2
 power at 5 watts via CAT.  The K2 display reads 4.3 F, 0.0r.  An external
 watt/SWR dual meter reads 5.9  +/- 0.2 Fwd and a small value
 which can't be
 read accurately, Rev.  A Tandem SWR/Power meter reads 7.2 +/-  0.2 watts
 and a SWR of 1.2 +/- 0.1.

 ...

 Also, if the power level is set by the K2 CAT at 5.0 watts, why is the K2
 display reading 4.3 watts?  If I have a very accurate wattmeter, can I
 calibrate the K2 wattmeter?  How about calibrating the CAT setting?  I
 probably can get a more accurate reading on the Tandem by using a DVM set
 on current in series with its meter(s).

 73,  Chas,  W1CG

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[Elecraft] Mic gain

2005-05-25 Thread David Andrews
I've changed R14 to 5.6k to increase mic sensitivity using SSBA=2. I then
bought the MH2 mic which is matched to the K2. Reports said I was clipping
and degrading the audio, so I set SSBA to 1. Quality is now fine. Can I
assume that the MH2 is matched to the K2 with R14 at 1k (as original) and
SSBA=2?

Thanks
David G4CWB

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[Elecraft] K2 CW Reception

2005-05-25 Thread JAMES BRASSELL
I am building K2 #4901 and have just completed Assembly Phase II.  Everything 
checked out fine.  I put the K2 on an antenna and listened to some 40 meter CW. 
 I observed that when the frequency changed on stronger signals, the CW note 
became chirpy, as if there were two signals.  I set the tuning rate to 10 Hz 
and as the frequency changes at that rate it is really noticeable.  It sounds 
much like my Orion when I have the tuning rate set to 100 Hz or higher.  I have 
not seen anything on the reflector that addresses this problem.  Has anyone 
else experienced this?

73,
Jim, K4ZMV
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RE: [Elecraft] Cannot hear internal ref. signal

2005-05-25 Thread John Bonk
Update:

After some coaching from Gary and another gentleman on the reflector, I was
able to use my wideband noise generator to inject a signal and traced it
down to one missing capacitor near U1.  After that, I finished Alignment
phase II, installed the rest of the parts and completed phase II with no
issues.  

Tonight will be a final test  tune and try and get on the airwaves.  I just
received two cans of water-soluble flux remover in the mail and I can turn
my attentions to my other dead-in-the-water K2 next week.

I highly recommend the toroid winding service.  Mychael has always gotten
them in the mail quickly and for a guy on a busy schedule like me. This is
money well spent for the time and frustration saved.

73,
John
KD7ZYR

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Update:

At lunch I used the signal tracing handout and could not inject a signal
into TP#1 and hear any change at all.  I verified all the parts and
installation direction of all the items in the handout as well as reflowing
the solder points with no change.  One item of note is that the static hiss
does change at all when changing freqs by moving the knob or by changing
bands with the BAND +/- buttons.  

74,
John
KD7ZYR

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Hello all,

I am working on the 2nd of my two K2 kits while my first is waiting for some
flux-off and have reached the IF Amplifier Alignment and cannot hear the
internal signal.  All resistance checks and alignment up to the point has
been without issue.  I checked and rechecked the board for solder problems
last night without any luck.  Any suggestions on where I might focus my
search?

73,
John
KD7ZYR  

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[Elecraft] Masking tape K2?

2005-05-25 Thread Erik Linder

Hi, I'm building K2 #4904 as a follow-up to my K1.

My manual says (at page 29) Some holes in the front panel was masked...

I have no mask-tape over the holes, and there has never been any tape 
over the holes. It's painted grey on both sides.


What is the purpose of masking?
1) Just a manufacturing thing?
2) To get un-painted metal for better grounding of the box?

How do I move on from here?

Best 73 de SM0RVV
K1 #1978
K2 #4904 (1/4-built)
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[Elecraft] Power Output Specs

2005-05-25 Thread Fred Jensen

(Possibly) stupid questions:

1.  Does my thru-line wattmeter indicate RMS or P-P power?

2.  Are TX/Amp power output specs given in RMS or P-P?

I thought I understood this, but recent reflector traffic leads me to 
question that belief.


Fred K6DGW
Auburn CA CM98lw

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Re: [Elecraft] Power Output Specs

2005-05-25 Thread Lyle Johnson

1.  Does my thru-line wattmeter indicate RMS or P-P power?


Typically RMS, but there is a time constant involved in the meter 
movement, and some versions are/can be peak reading.  Keep in mind that 
most wattmeters, thru-line included, don't actually measure power but 
voltage induced in a directional coupler, and are only at their rated 
accuracy when they are terminated in the load for which thy are 
designed, usually 50 ohms non-reactive.



2.  Are TX/Amp power output specs given in RMS or P-P?


Usually RMS, but might be peak envelope power (PEP).  CW ratings are 
usually RMS; SSB ratings are usually PEP.


The KPA100, for example, is rated at 100 watts output power into a 
50-ohm non-reactive load.  If you are in CW, this is the carrier (RMS) 
power.  If you are in SSB, this is the PEP rating.


Enjoy!

Lyle KK7P

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RE: [Elecraft] Power Output Specs

2005-05-25 Thread W3FPR - Don Wilhelm
Fred and all,

Your power meter will try to show either average or peak power - no
relationship to RMS for either of these.

Extended 'TECH TALK' follows:

Power is always computed using RMS values.  For power measurements, there is
some sense in referring to either INSTANTANEOUS power or AVERAGE power.
Whether a meter can really read true instantaneous power depends on the
meter itself, but some will show the peak power in a particular increment of
time - most meters simply provide an average power reading - I put the
'average' term in quotes because a meaningful average must also specify the
time over which the average is taken, and most meters I have encountered do
not do that, they simply depend on the latency of the meter movement to
average things out - that is usually OK because the real number we are
usually looking for is the number displayed when we hold the key down for a
bit - this is what we refer to as PEP (OK, PEP with speech is more
complicated - look in the reference books on the subject for the nuances).

Most common amateur grade power meters that provide 'peak' readings are just
charging up a capacitor to slow the meter response down so the meter retains
the higher reading for a bit - just how long and how accurate it is depends
on the speech pattern and the judgement of the meter designer for 'how long
is long enough?'.

Just so there is no mis-understanding, power in a wave cycle is computed
with RMS values of voltage (or current), but zero to peak voltages or peak
to peak voltages can be used if the proper math is performed to obtain the
RMS value - if the waveform is a sinewave, the RMS value is V(0-p)*(sqrt
2)/2 or Vp-p*(sqrt 2)/4.  Sorry, but these quanties are difficult to show in
text mode (no subscripts, etc. available).

73,
Don W3FPR

 -Original Message-

 (Possibly) stupid questions:

 1.  Does my thru-line wattmeter indicate RMS or P-P power?

 2.  Are TX/Amp power output specs given in RMS or P-P?

 I thought I understood this, but recent reflector traffic leads me to
 question that belief.


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[Elecraft] What I forgot to ask at Dayton...

2005-05-25 Thread Tom Bosscher

And that is, who has, or who is going to get K2 SN # 5,000 ?

Maybe Eric and Wayne should have had a raffle for it!

tom bosscher  K8TB  K2 SN 3206


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[Elecraft] Let me build your next Elecraft kit.

2005-05-25 Thread Alan
I have built 90 K2's to date, and many of the other Elecraft kits.  Let me 
build your radio.  My rates are reasonable and you get a built radio ready to 
play.

73
Alan
W1HYV

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Re: [Elecraft] What I forgot to ask at Dayton...

2005-05-25 Thread Ken Bessler
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Subject: [Elecraft] What I forgot to ask at Dayton...



And that is, who has, or who is going to get K2 SN # 5,000 ?

Maybe Eric and Wayne should have had a raffle for it!

tom bosscher  K8TB  K2 SN 3206



Motion seconded! Maybe $20 a piece? Sell 25 tickets and
you break even but I'll bet WAY more than 25 tickets get
sold! I'd buy 5 myself.

Ken
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Re: [Elecraft] kpa800 question

2005-05-25 Thread David Toepfer
Oh, no, I was not hoping for full power out with 5W in.  I was just wondering
if I could expect up to 100W out with 5M in (assuming a max 13dB gain), or is
it somehow limited or inefficient with such low drive power.  I would just like
to have only one amp I could use to bring something like a K1 or K2 up to
50-100W and also use to bring a a 40W AM/CW rig up to 800W.

I guess I may just have to wait until the web site announces official specs and
ask when I see them.

dt
.

--- Lee Buller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 What I found is that the amp needs to have around 50
 watts to be driven to full output.  There is a rule
 with the FCC that requires higher drive for full
 output so other types (CB types) can't put in 5-watts
 and get out 800 watts.  So, the by rule the amp is
 limited in drive...I think it is 13 db, but I am not
 sure.
 
 The amp is a stand alone and can be used with any rig.
 
 It is 80% the size of an Alpha
 
 It has a built in antenna tunner.  PIN Diode switching
 and a switching power supply.
 
 Fully metered too.
 
 Lee - K0WA
 
 
 Common sense is in short supply - get some and use it.
 If you can't find any common sense, ask for help from 
 somebody that has some common sense. - Lee Buller
 
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RE: [Elecraft] What I forgot to ask at Dayton...

2005-05-25 Thread Craig Rairdin
I asked if #5000 was available when I bought #4941 at Dayton and the lady
helping me actually went to the stack of K2 boxes and looked to see if it
was there. I got the impression she would have handed it me if it had been
there. She said she didn't see it. It's possible it's not that big of a deal
to them.

Craig
K1 #1966
K2 #4941

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And that is, who has, or who is going to get K2 SN # 5,000 ?

Maybe Eric and Wayne should have had a raffle for it!

tom bosscher  K8TB  K2 SN 3206


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[Elecraft] K2 #4764 with options finally ready today!

2005-05-25 Thread Karsten Eppert(DK4AS)
Yes folks, my K2 finally is ready with all options: SSB, Noise-Blanker, 
DSP, 160 m and 100 W-PA. I finished it 5 minutes ago. Everything is 
working well. The few things, that did not work right from the beginning 
had my own stupid faults as their reason. For all this, I spent about 55 
hours.
It has been a great pleasure to see the rig completing, testing it 
inbetween and having success at various stages. The kit is just 
fantastic. The description is very well. Too bad actually that it is 
completed. I could go on more.
I am very happy with the results. Inbetween I already made qso with the 
barefoot K2 and was amazed about the receiving performance (also about 
how many contacts are possible qrp!)

Yes, it has been the right decision to go for the K2.
73
Karsten
DK4AS

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Re: [Elecraft] kpa800 question

2005-05-25 Thread Nigel KC8NHF/G8IFF
Buy a KPA800 AND a KPA1500 and get full  legal output for 5W drive. 
Sounds ideal.


David Toepfer wrote:


Oh, no, I was not hoping for full power out with 5W in.  I was just wondering
if I could expect up to 100W out with 5M in (assuming a max 13dB gain), or is
it somehow limited or inefficient with such low drive power.  I would just like
to have only one amp I could use to bring something like a K1 or K2 up to
50-100W and also use to bring a a 40W AM/CW rig up to 800W.

I guess I may just have to wait until the web site announces official specs and
ask when I see them.

dt
 




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Re: [Elecraft] Masking tape K2?

2005-05-25 Thread Brian Mury
On Wed, 2005-25-05 at 18:27 +0200, Erik Linder wrote:
 My manual says (at page 29) Some holes in the front panel was masked...
 
 I have no mask-tape over the holes, and there has never been any tape 
 over the holes. It's painted grey on both sides.

The holes that are masked are in the four corners, on the top and bottom
edges, not on the front. They are the screw holes for the 2D connectors
that hold the case together, not the holes for the front panel controls
and connectors.

Are you sure they are not masked? The masking tape will have been
painted over, and if the bit covering the actual hole has been poked
out, it can be hard to tell that it is there. I had a couple that I
thought hadn't been masked until I looked very carefully.

 What is the purpose of masking?
 1) Just a manufacturing thing?
 2) To get un-painted metal for better grounding of the box?

Number 2 - for grounding.

If you install a KPA100 you'll have to grind the paint of the inside of
the side panels in a couple spots.

 How do I move on from here?

Good question. If they really weren't masked, you may want to
scrape/sand/grind the paint off around those holes. I'm not sure how
much it would really matter.

-- 
73, Brian
VE7NGR
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[Elecraft] Dayton, Eric, Wayne N0SS (Tom)

2005-05-25 Thread lbailey
My first trip to Dayton Hamvention  the highlight was getting to meet 
Eric, Wayne, Tom Hammond (N0SS), Lerma,  others who were helping show the 
K2  all its brothers  sisters.  Eric showed me photos of the K2 
afterburner.

(I also met Chip of Tonight Show fame  a teenager who had one $64K? on 
Jepoardy)

73, Lynn, K5AVJ
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RE: [Elecraft] kpa800 question

2005-05-25 Thread Stan Rife
That was going to be my question...if it is controllable from the K2
like the KPA100 is. Sort of like the transverters, designed for the K2, but
can be used with other rigs.

Stan Rife
W5EWA
Houston, TX
K2 S/N 4216
 

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Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 9:44 PM
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Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] kpa800 question

The amp I saw Friday at the FDIM hotel was an independent unit.  While the
specific question did not arrise during QA with Wayne  Eric, it would be
difficult to imagine a design of this class *requiring* a K2 to drive it.  I
did not note any special control cable from the K2/100 to the amp.
73,
Steve
aa8af

 -Original Message-
 
 Is it too early to start asking questions about this?
 
 I am wondering, will the KPA800 have to be closely tied to 
 the K2 like the KPA100 is, or will I be able to use it with 
 other gear as well and with less than 50-100W in?
 
 I ask because I was considering the idea foregoing the 
 purchase of a KPA100 this year and just waiting for a KPA800 
 to use to kick the K2 5-10W in up to 100W, but also to use 
 with other gear to kick them up to 800W.  I would buy one if 
 I can use it this way, but don't have as much use for one if 
 it can not be.
 
 Also, will there be a KAT800?  :-)
 
 dt

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Re: [Elecraft] kpa800 question

2005-05-25 Thread Mike Harris
G'day all,

All this talk about 800W amps is interesting, however, due to oil prices 
the power company here has had to shove up the price per kWh to about 27c 
US.  I'll stick with more and better high level aluminium which sucks as 
well as blows.  Less potential TVI too.

Regards,

Mike VP8NO 

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[Elecraft] Re: Elecraft Digest, Vol 13, Issue 27 Balanced Automatic Tuners

2005-05-25 Thread Wa6bfh
Balanced Line Tuners
 
I don’t think you really want an Automatic tuner from Elecraft -- unless  
they perhaps decide to venture into a new nitch in terms of a superb KW tuner  
that works well with their and other radios.
 
First the reason that I say KW TransMatch is that you have to think in  terms 
of at least 100 Watt power levels of the K2100 and most other transmitters  
of our day. If you are going to tune out what may well be a 10:1 or even 
greater  reactance at 100 Watts, that could be thousands of volts. The tuner 
design 
must  accommodate this.
 
I would welcome seeing Elecraft or any manufacturer produce a software  
driven ‘truly balanced tuner’. Nothing like this now exists on the market. 
There  
are and have been some such unbalanced tuners that will match an antenna in 
the  middle hundreds of Ohms. Even these won’t go beyond 600 or 800 Ohms, and 
that is  simply not enough for a well engineered station.
 
A software {or firmware} driven TransMatch that would tune from about one  
half Ohm, to about 2000 Ohms, and handle the reactive voltages that may be  
imposed at considerably higher power levels would be quite intriguing!
 
73! de John WA6BFH

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Re: [Elecraft] kpa800 question

2005-05-25 Thread David Toepfer
I agree, but, some of us have no room/permission for an antenna that is worth
anything, and have to make up for it somehow.

dt
.

--- Mike Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 G'day all,
 
 All this talk about 800W amps is interesting, however, due to oil prices 
 the power company here has had to shove up the price per kWh to about 27c 
 US.  I'll stick with more and better high level aluminium which sucks as 
 well as blows.  Less potential TVI too.
 
 Regards,
 
 Mike VP8NO 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] kpa800 question

2005-05-25 Thread Bill Coleman


On May 24, 2005, at 11:19 PM, Lee Buller wrote:


It is 80% the size of an Alpha


So, is that 80% of the external dimensions, or 80% of the volume?

Is this the size of an EC2, or considerably larger?


Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASELMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Quote: Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!
-- Wilbur Wright, 1901

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[Elecraft] Hex Key Cover

2005-05-25 Thread PDouglas12
Hey Elecrafters,


One of the things that followed me home from Dayton was an Elecraft Hex Key.  
 Eric mentioned that there is a fella out there who makes covers for it.   
Would some kind soul post the email or web address of the cover maker?

72,

Preston Douglas WJ2V
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RE: [Elecraft] kpa800 question

2005-05-25 Thread EricJ
My electric bill came today and it worked out to 11.7 cents/kwh. I suppose I
could then afford to run a kw, but as you say, a bunch of aluminum up high
(TH7DX @ 65') works both ways. With a linear, you pay so that the guy at the
other end has an easier time of it!

It's not going to be on my Christmas List to Santa this year, but I think it
will be good for the Elecraft brand name, and that eventually helps us all.

Eric
KE6US 

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G'day all,

All this talk about 800W amps is interesting, however, due to oil prices the
power company here has had to shove up the price per kWh to about 27c US.
I'll stick with more and better high level aluminium which sucks as well as
blows.  Less potential TVI too.

Regards,

Mike VP8NO 

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[Elecraft] Transverter for 70cm?

2005-05-25 Thread George Cortez

Is there a possibility of  one for 70cm
would love one!

George NE2I


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[Elecraft] Installing C56 on Pins 2 and 3 of K1

2005-05-25 Thread Matt and Kelly
I need a little assistance from other KX1 builders out there.

The manual states to solder the capacitor C56 between pins 2 and 3 of the
relay K1 (page 34, right side, second step).

How do I determine which pins are 2 and 3?  I DON'T want to get this wrong
now...

Thanks.

Matt - K7OE

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Re: [Elecraft] kpa800 question

2005-05-25 Thread JS
Let us look at the matter in a different way.  The skill required in the 
construction a real QRO solid state power amplifer is different.  KPA800 
will be an entire different training for myself as a non-radio profession.


Cheers,

Johnny Siu VR2XMC
- Original Message - 
From: EricJ [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'Mike Harris' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 9:03 AM
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] kpa800 question


My electric bill came today and it worked out to 11.7 cents/kwh. I suppose 
I

could then afford to run a kw, but as you say, a bunch of aluminum up high
(TH7DX @ 65') works both ways. With a linear, you pay so that the guy at 
the

other end has an easier time of it!

It's not going to be on my Christmas List to Santa this year, but I think 
it
will be good for the Elecraft brand name, and that eventually helps us 
all.


Eric
KE6US

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[Elecraft] A New Kit on the Block

2005-05-25 Thread David Morley W8IXY
4933 has been inventoried, only a couple parts MIA no biggie. I can't wait
to put the kit together.
I am overwhelmed by the vastness of the kit. I have only built 1 kit with
through hole soldering solder joints on both sides of the board
the kit was a M3 semiconductor tester and that was a breeze to assemble.
also I am looking for a L\C meter that sells for 100.00 via kit it has a tan
case with pigtail leads or a 2 pin breadboard style test points.
TU Dave AB8TN


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[Elecraft] antenna suggestions? (was Re: kpa800 question)

2005-05-25 Thread Brian Mury
On Wed, 2005-25-05 at 17:04 -0700, David Toepfer wrote:
 I agree, but, some of us have no room/permission for an antenna that is worth
 anything, and have to make up for it somehow.

You've got it good! Right now I've got no antenna at all.

I'm away from home for about 15 months, living in an 11x15 foot room.
It's basically the equivalent of a small hotel room. It's on the 3rd
floor and has a window, but no balcony. It's probably not a great idea
to string wire out the window (it's military barracks). I should be able
to get away with attaching stuff to the walls.

So - any antenna suggestions? Preferably something inexpensive and easy
to build as I have almost no tools here. Some ideas I've been thinking
about are a random wire (using the tuner), a homebrew buddipole, perhaps
a magnetic loop to stick by the window, or a shortened vertical.

The rig is a K2/100, and I do have a MFJ tuner if I need it. 

All suggestions gratefully accepted!

-- 
73, Brian
VE7NGR
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RE: [Elecraft] kpa800 question

2005-05-25 Thread EricJ
Training for what? You're only going to do it once!

Eric
KE6US 

-Original Message-
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Let us look at the matter in a different way.  The skill required in the
construction a real QRO solid state power amplifer is different.  KPA800
will be an entire different training for myself as a non-radio profession.

Cheers,

Johnny Siu VR2XMC
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Re: [Elecraft] kpa800 question

2005-05-25 Thread JS
The construction technique and tuning procedures would be different from K2. 
It should be an interesting construction experience.


73

Johnny Siu VR2XMC
s/n 1146, 4165, 3837, 4255, 4597

- Original Message - 
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To: 'JS' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 10:07 AM
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] kpa800 question



Training for what? You're only going to do it once!

Eric
KE6US

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Of

JS
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 6:39 PM
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] kpa800 question

Let us look at the matter in a different way.  The skill required in the
construction a real QRO solid state power amplifer is different.  KPA800
will be an entire different training for myself as a non-radio profession.

Cheers,

Johnny Siu VR2XMC


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Re: [Elecraft] Transverter for 70cm?

2005-05-25 Thread vze3v8dt

Hi George,

I suppose you mean specifically an Elecraft transverter.  I've used the 
Down East Microwave transverters in the past and they worked great.  
Were also lots of fun to assemble.  Taught me that SMD are not so bad 
(the density was quite low).  You can find them at 
www.downeastmicrowave.com.  Standard disclaimers apply, such as I have 
no affiliation with DEM.  I'm just offering an alternative.  A higher 
priced (and I believe non-kit) version from SSB Electronics for a fine 
German manufactured transverter may also be of interest, but be prepared 
for the price! 

BTW, I think DEM plugs Elecraft as well and offers tips on interfacing 
Elecraft with their transverters.  I first heard about Elecraft while 
going throught he DEM website.  I thought who the heck is Elecraft, 
never heard of them but eventually I figured it out! 


Mark, NK8Q
K2 4786

George Cortez wrote:


Is there a possibility of  one for 70cm
would love one!

George NE2I


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[Elecraft] MH2 Microphone Discontinued

2005-05-25 Thread Paul Saville
The MH2 is now listed as discontinued. Will there be an Elecraft-branded 
replacement for those who don't fancy pop star type microphones?

73 Paul ZL3IN

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RE: [Elecraft] kpa800 question

2005-05-25 Thread EricJ
Definitely. It should be fun. And when you let the smoke out, you REALLY let
the smoke out. Hi.

73, Johnny

Eric
KE6US 

-Original Message-
From: JS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 7:16 PM
To: EricJ; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] kpa800 question

The construction technique and tuning procedures would be different from K2.

It should be an interesting construction experience.

73

Johnny Siu VR2XMC
s/n 1146, 4165, 3837, 4255, 4597

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Subject: RE: [Elecraft] kpa800 question


 Training for what? You're only going to do it once!

 Eric
 KE6US

 -Original Message-
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 Of
 JS
 Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 6:39 PM
 To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] kpa800 question

 Let us look at the matter in a different way.  The skill required in the
 construction a real QRO solid state power amplifer is different.  KPA800
 will be an entire different training for myself as a non-radio profession.

 Cheers,

 Johnny Siu VR2XMC
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Installing C56 on Pins 2 and 3 of K1

2005-05-25 Thread Dave G.
Matt,

If you look at Fig 13 on page 34, you will see a 'solder 
blob' just above the letters 'CB' - the next two 'blobs' to 
the right of that are pins 2 3.

If you download the pdf version of the manual,you can word 
search and 'expand' the illustrations to make them VERY 
clear...

Hope this helps..

Dave KK7SS


 I need a little assistance from other KX1 builders out there.
 
 The manual states to solder the capacitor C56 between pins 2
 and 3 of the relay K1 (page 34, right side, second step).
 
 How do I determine which pins are 2 and 3?  I DON'T want to
 get this wrong now...
 
 Thanks.
 
 Matt - K7OE
 
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Re: [Elecraft] What I forgot to ask at Dayton...

2005-05-25 Thread Tom McCulloch
Great idea!   Elecraft could donate the proceeds to a charity.  It would be 
a win-win, they get good press, the charity gets a nice contribution and 
someone gets K2 #5000.

Tom WB2QDG
k2 1103


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- Original Message - 
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Subject: [Elecraft] What I forgot to ask at Dayton...



And that is, who has, or who is going to get K2 SN # 5,000 ?

Maybe Eric and Wayne should have had a raffle for it!

tom bosscher  K8TB  K2 SN 3206



Motion seconded! Maybe $20 a piece? Sell 25 tickets and
you break even but I'll bet WAY more than 25 tickets get
sold! I'd buy 5 myself.

Ken
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Just my 2¢ worth... 73's es gd dx de Ken KGØWX
Grid EM17ip, Flying Pigs #1055, Digital On Six #350,
 Proud builder  owner of Elecraft K2 #4913


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Re: [Elecraft] What I forgot to ask at Dayton...

2005-05-25 Thread Larry Makoski W2LJ
SN 5000 should have Wayne and Eric's signatures engraved on the top 
cover - or maybe that would be a good idea for a 10th anniversary 
special edition K2?


73 de Larry W2LJ

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RE: [Elecraft] Installing C56 on Pins 2 and 3 of K1

2005-05-25 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Matt - K7OE - asked:

I need a little assistance from other KX1 builders out there.

The manual states to solder the capacitor C56 between pins 2 and 3 of the
relay K1 (page 34, right side, second step).

How do I determine which pins are 2 and 3?  I DON'T want to get this wrong
now...
--

Figure 13 just below that step in the manual shows C56 in place on the
center two pins (2 and 3) on the side closest to the trimmers (or where the
trimmers will go).

My apologies for the illustration showing parts that haven't been installed
yet. C56 was added AFTER I did the build and took the pictures.

Ron AC7AC


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RE: [Elecraft] antenna suggestions? (was Re: kpa800 question)

2005-05-25 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Brian, VE7NGR, asked:

...Right now I've got no antenna at all.

I'm away from home for about 15 months, living in an 11x15 foot room. It's
basically the equivalent of a small hotel room. It's on the 3rd floor and
has a window, but no balcony. It's probably not a great idea to string wire
out the window (it's military barracks). I should be able to get away with
attaching stuff to the walls.

So - any antenna suggestions? Preferably something inexpensive and easy to
build as I have almost no tools here. Some ideas I've been thinking about
are a random wire (using the tuner), a homebrew buddipole, perhaps a
magnetic loop to stick by the window, or a shortened vertical.

The rig is a K2/100, and I do have a MFJ tuner if I need it. 

All suggestions gratefully accepted!

-

Are you by chance in a wooden barracks building such as I recall lo' these
many years ago? Or in one of those modern monoliths of military might made
from concrete and steel?

If wood, I'd suggest ignoring the building itself. It won't do the RF much
harm. I'd go for a balanced (or sorta balanced) situation. Run two wires up
the wall from the ATU to the ceiling. Make them about 2 or 3 inches apart.
That's your balanced line. When you get to the ceiling (or rafters,
depending upon whether you have a finished  ceiling, the wires go opposite
directions around the room until the almost meet opposite the feed line.
Keep them several inches apart at least and insulate those ends! (They'll be
very hot with RF and you don't want to promote excessive losses). Small bits
of plastic will do, or just use some plastic monofilament fishing line for
the last few inches to a push-pin holder. Staples, pushpins, whatever you
have handy are good for holding my wire. My favorite are push-pins with a
loop of antenna wire around each pin. 

You can use the balun in your MFJ for balanced feed but it'll probably
work as well (or better!) if you simply hook one side of the feeder to the
tuner case and the other side to the single wire feed terminal (or the coax
center pin, which will take a banana plug FB). 

Ignoring the balun might be better than trying for balanced feed because
under many conditions those baluns can be very, very lossy! 

IF it's a concrete/steel building, that same system might work well too, but
the concrete/steel might show high losses too. I'd try to get outdoors with
the radiating half at least. Perhaps something out the window. Hang a wire
down toward the ground that you can pull up and stow when you're not
operating. Put a weight on the end so it'll hang straight and try not to
bonk the C.O. on the head with the thing. Run a wire along the floor for
your ground. A 1/4 wave wire for each band is best. You can put 'em on the
wall or around the baseboard, etc. 

Ron AC7AC


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