Re: [Elecraft] A plug for Nifty! accessories
It's great 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 -- There is no limit to what you can accomplish if you don't care who gets the credit. --Ronald Reagan On 29 Jan 2009, at 00:17, Barbara Maloney wrote: What about the Nifty K3 operating manual? Anyone use it who can comment or recommend? Might be handy for portable operation. Mike, AC5P ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Need Help with XG1
Thanks Don. Unfortunately, all those variables test OK. I've gotta fix my old scope! I think that voltage must be an indication that the transistor oscillator is at least drawing the right amount of current through R9. I'm going back to recheck all my work on the default output attenuator. Must be something there, particularly since the additional stage of attenuation when I switch in the 1 Uv position seems to be working properly. 73, Pete At 02:30 PM 1/28/2009, Don wrote: Pete, Do you have the proper voltage on Q1? Check for 1.22 volts at the cathode of U2. Also check the value of R3 and R3 with your ohmmeter. It sounds like you have replaced everything important, but if you had enough RF to fry the resistors, you may have damaged the switch contacts at the same time. You should be able to determine the resistance through the switch with your ohmmeter. Do that for both poles, and both switch positions. 73, Don W3FPR Pete Smith wrote: Thanks for the idea - I removed both D1 and D2 from the circuit - no improvement. The signal is quite audible (in the 50 uv switch position, and barely audible in the 1 uV position, but doesn't move an S-meter that was formerly tested with it and registered S9. Anyone else? I know that if I had a scope I could measure the p-p voltage coming out of the oscillator, but I don't. 73, Pete N4ZR ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Need Help with XG1
No, sorry - I meant that in the 50uv position it generated an S9 reading. In the 1 UV position it was easily audible, but no S meter deflection at all. 73, Pete At 01:41 PM 1/28/2009, John wrote: At 10:53 AM 28/01/09, you wrote: and barely audible in the 1 uV position, but doesn't move an S-meter that was formerly tested with it and registered S9. Do you mean you used to get S9 with a 1uV signal? I would think the 1uV signal would be close to the noise level. John k7up ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Request for NR and NTCH inside AGC loop
It reminds me of methods to receive weak signals with other radios. Adjust crystal filters for a single peak, reduce RF gain, play with ATT K3 makes these steps unnecessary. All what K3 needs for NR (and NTCH) is to put them inside the AGC loop, like for instance in IC7000. NR at level 1 or 2 does not reduce the signal strength too much but also does not bring signals out of the mud. Ignacy I've found that adjusting AGC THR makes quite a difference. I normally have THR at 4 but when I need the NR, I adjust THR to 6 or even 7. I set NR at 2-1 or 2-2. With this setting, I normally do not have to turn AF gain up. 73, Gary W7TEA Ignacy wrote: I am not the first one writing that NTCH is outside the AGC loop and that NR reduces the signal strength. With NR, less on strong signals but much on weak signals. For example, signals that are buried in noise seem to be brought to life with NR 3-3 but the AF gain needs to be all the way up, or more. Ignacy John Lemay wrote: Ignacy Maybe your rig has a problem. NR does not affect the signal strength at all. It does however reduce the audio level, depending on how aggressive the setting is. Regards John G4ZTR -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Request-for-NR-and-NTCH-inside-AGC-loop-tp2160153p2239028.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Upgrade question
Thanks guys! I purchased all of the updates from A to B. It looks like there are some substantial improvements, and I can't wait to get it up and running again to hear what the new and improved rig sounds like. I also bought a new set of XTALs, but I am dreading taking the old ones out. Any tips on removing them without damaging the board? Since they are up against the board it's impossible to cut the leads, and since the xtal basically acts as a heat sink, I'm thinking it would take a lot of heat to get it out. Thanks again, Jim N2SUB --- olin...@bellsouth.net wrote: From: Guy Olinger, K2AV olin...@bellsouth.net To: d...@w3fpr.com, j...@giercyk.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Upgrade question Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:58:21 -0500 I did all the A to B upgrades and other mods on my K2 #1239, including the matched crystals, and then added the KDSP2. What a difference. It is a 10W version and I keep a battery in it, so I added the KIO2 to talk to the computer and the key line mod for amp keying for contesting use. I can drive my pair of 4X150's with it for 400-500 watts QRO if I want. It took a while to work through it, and getting the xtal and dsp skirts to match on CW took some getting used to, but when I got it all done, the work turned the K2 into a red-hot box. I did a 160 contest QRP with it and the RX was never overloaded. The first two CW dsp and xtal filter settings are set to give me a 400 and a 250 Hz resultant. Skirts keep going straight down out of my measurement capabilities. Yes, you can run on 160 using QRP. Going up the band to the land of ugly SWR is not a problem, just use the auto-tune. Then again, maybe it's the mojo that makes the run. I carry the K2 out to an antenna, use the KAT2 to match it at the feed and it tells me what it used to do it. That has been ever so handy. Never gets fooled by close BC stations. Have used it with a 2m rubber duckie to sniff out an HF feedline break. 73, Guy K2AV K2/K3 #1239 - Original Message - From: Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com To: j...@giercyk.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Upgrade question Jim, I forgot to mention - for all K2s with serial numbers less than 2560, replace the IF crystals too - the filter will improve dramatically. A set of 7 matched crystals is only $10 from Elecraft and if the KSB2 is installed, a set of 14 matched crystals is only $15. There is no need to match the KSB2 crystals to that used in the K2 IF filter, 2 matched sets of 7 crystals will work nicely too (if you purchase a KSB2 option, you will receive a matched set of 7 crystals with the kit. 73, Don W3FPR Jim Giercyk wrote: Hello all, I've been out of the loop for a while, but I am looking to fire up the soldering iron and digging in again. My K2, #1998, was one of the earlier kits. It is a revision A. Right now it has the 160 board, internal battery and NB options, but it is strictly CW. I want to get the rig back 'up to snuff' and do whatever mods need to be done to make it current. I plan to add the SSB module, and eventually ditch the battery and add the amp, but for now, what are the critical drop-dead mods I need to do so that I am starting on a level playing field? I sold my big-rig last year and so the K2 is my one-and-only. I also noticed that there is a lot of documentation on soldering, but none on desoldering. Any good ideas would be appreciated since I see a lopt of that in my future. Thanks guys and gals, Jim ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.15/1921 - Release Date: 1/28/2009 6:37 AM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] FSK-D/sub-rx
Anybody out there successfully configure the SUB-RX for HI tones (2125Hz mark)in FSK-D? I can't seem to do it. A-B all doesn't work. BSET apparently doesn't recognize the pitch control used to set this. Spectrogram clearly shows low tone audio being output. Firmware 2.8x being used here. Other lower versions didn't work either. 73 de Brian/K3KO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Upgrade question
Jim: I don't think that should be a problem. The crystal has only 2 leads, so if you can pull it a little while heating up one of the leads, the end you are heating will break loose. Do the same with the other lead and it should come out painlessly. Then clean up the holes in the PCB. You probably won't even damage the old crystals. If you want to remove a component with more than 2 leads, then it gets trickier because the multiple leads that aren't being heated are enough to hold the component in place. That's when it's usually best to destroy the component and remove the leads one at a time. Not so with a crystal (or other 2 lead components). Good luck and 73's, John AA0VE Jim Giercyk wrote: Thanks guys! I purchased all of the updates from A to B. It looks like there are some substantial improvements, and I can't wait to get it up and running again to hear what the new and improved rig sounds like. I also bought a new set of XTALs, but I am dreading taking the old ones out. Any tips on removing them without damaging the board? Since they are up against the board it's impossible to cut the leads, and since the xtal basically acts as a heat sink, I'm thinking it would take a lot of heat to get it out. Thanks again, Jim N2SUB ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Upgrade question
Jim, To remove the crystals, first clip off the ground lead. Then most likely you can heat one of the pins while putting a bit of pressure against the side of the crystal. As soon as you feel it move, heat the other pin and repeat. It will get easier after 2 or 3 passes, and you can get the crystal out one lead at a time. Alternately, if you have 2 soldering irons, you can heat both pins at once. The leads are not connected to the case, so the case will not act as a big heat sink. Be gentle so you do not damage the board. 73, Don W3FPR Jim Giercyk wrote: Thanks guys! I purchased all of the updates from A to B. It looks like there are some substantial improvements, and I can't wait to get it up and running again to hear what the new and improved rig sounds like. I also bought a new set of XTALs, but I am dreading taking the old ones out. Any tips on removing them without damaging the board? Since they are up against the board it's impossible to cut the leads, and since the xtal basically acts as a heat sink, I'm thinking it would take a lot of heat to get it out. Thanks again, Jim N2SUB ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Upgrade question
Hi Jim, I've had good results using a GC Electronics Solder Popper (part # 12-2157). It's a 30W soldering iron with a built-in spring loaded solder sucker. While it's certainly not equal to something like a Hakko 808, it's adequate for occasional use. And at less than $40, it's about 1/4 the cost. Note, however, that it seems to run hotter than a normal iron, so you have to be careful not to linger on PC board connections. It would be a good idea to try it on some junk PC boards to get a feel for it before using it on your K2. 73 -- Joe KB8AP On Jan 29, 2009, at 6:41 AM, Jim Giercyk wrote: Thanks guys! I purchased all of the updates from A to B. It looks like there are some substantial improvements, and I can't wait to get it up and running again to hear what the new and improved rig sounds like. I also bought a new set of XTALs, but I am dreading taking the old ones out. Any tips on removing them without damaging the board? Since they are up against the board it's impossible to cut the leads, and since the xtal basically acts as a heat sink, I'm thinking it would take a lot of heat to get it out. Thanks again, Jim N2SUB --- olin...@bellsouth.net wrote: From: Guy Olinger, K2AV olin...@bellsouth.net To: d...@w3fpr.com, j...@giercyk.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Upgrade question Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:58:21 -0500 I did all the A to B upgrades and other mods on my K2 #1239, including the matched crystals, and then added the KDSP2. What a difference. It is a 10W version and I keep a battery in it, so I added the KIO2 to talk to the computer and the key line mod for amp keying for contesting use. I can drive my pair of 4X150's with it for 400-500 watts QRO if I want. It took a while to work through it, and getting the xtal and dsp skirts to match on CW took some getting used to, but when I got it all done, the work turned the K2 into a red-hot box. I did a 160 contest QRP with it and the RX was never overloaded. The first two CW dsp and xtal filter settings are set to give me a 400 and a 250 Hz resultant. Skirts keep going straight down out of my measurement capabilities. Yes, you can run on 160 using QRP. Going up the band to the land of ugly SWR is not a problem, just use the auto-tune. Then again, maybe it's the mojo that makes the run. I carry the K2 out to an antenna, use the KAT2 to match it at the feed and it tells me what it used to do it. That has been ever so handy. Never gets fooled by close BC stations. Have used it with a 2m rubber duckie to sniff out an HF feedline break. 73, Guy K2AV K2/K3 #1239 - Original Message - From: Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com To: j...@giercyk.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Upgrade question Jim, I forgot to mention - for all K2s with serial numbers less than 2560, replace the IF crystals too - the filter will improve dramatically. A set of 7 matched crystals is only $10 from Elecraft and if the KSB2 is installed, a set of 14 matched crystals is only $15. There is no need to match the KSB2 crystals to that used in the K2 IF filter, 2 matched sets of 7 crystals will work nicely too (if you purchase a KSB2 option, you will receive a matched set of 7 crystals with the kit. 73, Don W3FPR Jim Giercyk wrote: Hello all, I've been out of the loop for a while, but I am looking to fire up the soldering iron and digging in again. My K2, #1998, was one of the earlier kits. It is a revision A. Right now it has the 160 board, internal battery and NB options, but it is strictly CW. I want to get the rig back 'up to snuff' and do whatever mods need to be done to make it current. I plan to add the SSB module, and eventually ditch the battery and add the amp, but for now, what are the critical drop-dead mods I need to do so that I am starting on a level playing field? I sold my big-rig last year and so the K2 is my one-and-only. I also noticed that there is a lot of documentation on soldering, but none on desoldering. Any good ideas would be appreciated since I see a lopt of that in my future. Thanks guys and gals, Jim ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.15/1921 - Release Date: 1/28/2009 6:37 AM
Re: [Elecraft] A plug for Nifty! accessories
It's very useful, but at the rate things are changing, it's always going to be a bit out-of-date. Combined with an electronic copy of the current manual and the firmware notes, you've got everything covered. Mine is less thn 6 months old, but reflects MCU firmware 2.22, and I'm running 2.78. 73, doug From: David Ferrington, M0XDF m0...@alphadene.co.uk Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:00:12 + It's great On 29 Jan 2009, at 00:17, Barbara Maloney wrote: What about the Nifty K3 operating manual? Anyone use it who can comment or recommend? Might be handy for portable operation. Mike, AC5P ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] FSK-D/sub-rx
Brian, The main and sub receivers cannot be set differently on this parameter. This is one of several things on my list for future revisions that allow band independence for the sub. 73, Wayne N6KR On Jan 29, 2009, at 6:49 AM, Brian Alsop wrote: Anybody out there successfully configure the SUB-RX for HI tones (2125Hz mark)in FSK-D? I can't seem to do it. A-B all doesn't work. BSET apparently doesn't recognize the pitch control used to set this. --- http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] A plug for Nifty! accessories
rate things are changing, it's always going to be a bit out-of-date. My thoughts also. Jim KE4WY -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604 Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 10:40 AM To: m0...@alphadene.co.uk Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] A plug for Nifty! accessories It's very useful, but at the rate things are changing, it's always going to be a bit out-of-date. Combined with an electronic copy of the current manual and the firmware notes, you've got everything covered. Mine is less thn 6 months old, but reflects MCU firmware 2.22, and I'm running 2.78. 73, doug From: David Ferrington, M0XDF m0...@alphadene.co.uk Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:00:12 + It's great On 29 Jan 2009, at 00:17, Barbara Maloney wrote: What about the Nifty K3 operating manual? Anyone use it who can comment or recommend? Might be handy for portable operation. Mike, AC5P ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] TEST ignore
Trying to sort out a mail problem ... Greg K2UM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] A plug for Nifty! accessories
Yes, mine is out of date also. But, it is small and handy. You get one free or reduced cost update if I remember correctly and I am waiting until later to order my update. He can only include what IS not what ISN'T. I am glad I got what I did when I did. 73, de Jim KG0KP - Original Message - From: Jim ke...@zoomtown.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 10:30 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] A plug for Nifty! accessories rate things are changing, it's always going to be a bit out-of-date. My thoughts also. Jim KE4WY -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604 Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 10:40 AM To: m0...@alphadene.co.uk Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] A plug for Nifty! accessories It's very useful, but at the rate things are changing, it's always going to be a bit out-of-date. Combined with an electronic copy of the current manual and the firmware notes, you've got everything covered. Mine is less thn 6 months old, but reflects MCU firmware 2.22, and I'm running 2.78. 73, doug From: David Ferrington, M0XDF m0...@alphadene.co.uk Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:00:12 + It's great On 29 Jan 2009, at 00:17, Barbara Maloney wrote: What about the Nifty K3 operating manual? Anyone use it who can comment or recommend? Might be handy for portable operation. Mike, AC5P ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and PSK
Is there somewhere where I might find a more exhaustive step by step discussion of seting up sound levels on the pc while connected to the K3. I may be a little dense and have not felt entirely comfortable with what I have read in the manual. Maybe this discussion might include config menu items and what the different settings would do to effect the way the K3 behaves with different modes? A good example of this is the idea of setting the number of bars for pc output, correct? Would this be done for actual rf output or would this be done via setting tx to test? thank you, Rob KE7VHF Robert Hall www.RobertHall.com On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote: Ron, I would suggest that you reduce the soundcard output level and increase the K3 line in setting for smoother control of the audio level. I run my K3 line in at 12 to 13 and adjust the soundcard level to achieve the proper number of ALC bars (4) - my soundcard controls are at the mid-point when it is adjusted correctly. I am using an internal SoundBlaster Live 24 soundcard. Your results may depend on your particular soundcard as well as the K3 settings. 73, Don W3FPR Ron W3ZV wrote: Setting up my K3 for PSK31. Using PC with on board sound. (Intel Integrated Audio). Stereo cable from K3 to sound card. I am looking to adjust ALC for 4 bars using the line in adjustment. I find that a level change of one unit on K3 (i.e. 5 to 6) changes ALC from zero bars showing to 5 bars showing. Adjusting sound card levels move the onset point but doesn't change the behavior. Am I missing something or do I have something wrong with my setup? Ron W3ZV ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 Menu-Config
Hello All, Where can i get an up to date Document of all the changes in the menu/config ?? Also can the Tuning aid (CWT) be set by Mode. I only use it in the CW mode. Thanks for all ur help 73 Ken K5DNL ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 feature request: Save Menu's states
We originally did this, Bill, but here's the problem. Those new to the K3 sometimes forget that VFO B scrolls the menu entry and VFO A modifies the parameters. If the last-selected menu entry is in effect on power-up, you can inadvertently change something important by spinning VFO A. We initialize the menus to benign entries (MAIN:LCD BRT and CONFIG:FW REVS) so there's no consequence of mixing up the two knobs. There are many subtleties to user interface design, and it'll never be perfect for everyone. I feel that this is an important design choice that should remain in place. 73, Wayne N6KR Bill Johnson wrote: Could the state of the Menu's be left at last position when turning the rig on and off? Right now it appears they revert back to the beginning. I would like to resume where I left off when I turn the rig on. --- http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Upgrade question
Joe Planisky wrote: Hi Jim, I've had good results using a GC Electronics Solder Popper (part # 12-2157). It's a 30W soldering iron with a built-in spring loaded solder sucker. While it's certainly not equal to something like a Hakko 808, it's adequate for occasional use. And at less than $40, it's about 1/4 the cost. I made a homebrew version of that using: http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062731 removed the rubber bulb and added a piece of clear tubing and: http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062745 total cost about $20.00 I used it for removing the 14 xtals in my K2 just a few weeks ago worked just fine. If you have a little solder left in the hole that doesn't want to come out (after the xtal is removed) just add a little solder to the hole, then use the sucker again, and it will remove it all, resulting in a clean hole. -- GB 73 KA5OAI Sam Morgan Linux, the lifetime learning experience. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and PSK
Is there somewhere where I might find a more exhaustive step by step discussion of seting up sound levels on the pc while connected to the K3... Not that I am aware of. Best to learn by doing. Put the radio in TX TEST mode and play with the LINE IN GAIN and the PC soundcard program. Don't get too worried about the ALC bars. 4 or 5 bars is fine. In some cases the bars fluctuate a bit. When things look good, get out of test mode and goon the air :-) 73, Lyle KK7P ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and PSK
Robert, I don't know of any step-by-step instructions, the whole picture is complicated because of the variety of computer soundcards that could be used. As far as the K3 is concerned, the procedure is simple - adjust the line-in gain setting, much as you would with the mic gain. Yes, the level can be set using TX TEST - and it is best if you do it that way because you don't both other hams with on-the-air signals. Normally there are two controls to work with - the LINE gain setting in the K3 and the Line-out soundcard controls on your PC. The output from soundcards vary, so you will just have to manipulate them and see what happens. For starters, I would suggest setting the soundcard line-out level at the slider midpoint, then adjust the LINE gain setting on the K3. You should strive for settings that will allow you some later adjustment room if possible, but if your soundcard output level is very low or very high, that may not be possible. You want to have a maximum of 4 bars of the ALC meter illuminated. 5 bars is where the 'real' ALC comes into operation, and the bars below the 5th act more like as a 'VU meter'. You want the level as high as possible without actually driving it into the ALC region (5th bar). Robert Hall wrote: Is there somewhere where I might find a more exhaustive step by step discussion of seting up sound levels on the pc while connected to the K3. I may be a little dense and have not felt entirely comfortable with what I have read in the manual. Maybe this discussion might include config menu items and what the different settings would do to effect the way the K3 behaves with different modes? A good example of this is the idea of setting the number of bars for pc output, correct? Would this be done for actual rf output or would this be done via setting tx to test? thank you, Rob KE7VHF Robert Hall www.RobertHall.com http://www.RobertHall.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Need Help with XG1
Wow, Pete, what a puzzle! You might make up a little probe consisting of a wire connected to your rx antenna input that you can touch to the circuit parts. If it has to be a long lead, use a bit of coax so random signal pickup won't confuse things. If your rx input is grounded for d-c, put a small cap in series - anything from .001 to .1 should be FB - to provide d-c isolation. Then touch it to the collector of Q1. You should find your S-9 signal. If not remove coupling cap C4 and try again. If you now have signal, there's a ground somewhere in the attenuator that is killing the signal. If not, you have a defective transistor (although that is high unlikely given that you've established that the voltage on the collector is correct.) Once you have the signal at the collector, start working through the attenuator until you lose it. Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Pete Smith Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 3:15 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Need Help with XG1 Thanks Don. Unfortunately, all those variables test OK. I've gotta fix my old scope! I think that voltage must be an indication that the transistor oscillator is at least drawing the right amount of current through R9. I'm going back to recheck all my work on the default output attenuator. Must be something there, particularly since the additional stage of attenuation when I switch in the 1 Uv position seems to be working properly. 73, Pete At 02:30 PM 1/28/2009, Don wrote: Pete, Do you have the proper voltage on Q1? Check for 1.22 volts at the cathode of U2. Also check the value of R3 and R3 with your ohmmeter. It sounds like you have replaced everything important, but if you had enough RF to fry the resistors, you may have damaged the switch contacts at the same time. You should be able to determine the resistance through the switch with your ohmmeter. Do that for both poles, and both switch positions. 73, Don W3FPR Pete Smith wrote: Thanks for the idea - I removed both D1 and D2 from the circuit - no improvement. The signal is quite audible (in the 50 uv switch position, and barely audible in the 1 uV position, but doesn't move an S-meter that was formerly tested with it and registered S9. Anyone else? I know that if I had a scope I could measure the p-p voltage coming out of the oscillator, but I don't. 73, Pete N4ZR ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Upgrade question
These are inexpensive and effective desoldering tools, but be aware they are *not* temperature controlled. The tip temperature can soar to well over 800F, especially while sitting on the cradle, then drop too low if you are removing parts from board that includes a fair-sized ground plane. Such heat extremes - too high or so low the iron is on the board too long - can easily debond (lift) circuit traces and do other nasty stuff. That's why Elecraft calls for a temperature-controlled iron in all the manuals and mod instructions. It's the temperature control that causes most of the price difference. Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Sam Morgan Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 9:27 AM To: Joe Planisky Cc: elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Upgrade question Joe Planisky wrote: Hi Jim, I've had good results using a GC Electronics Solder Popper (part # 12-2157). It's a 30W soldering iron with a built-in spring loaded solder sucker. While it's certainly not equal to something like a Hakko 808, it's adequate for occasional use. And at less than $40, it's about 1/4 the cost. I made a homebrew version of that using: http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062731 removed the rubber bulb and added a piece of clear tubing and: http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062745 total cost about $20.00 I used it for removing the 14 xtals in my K2 just a few weeks ago worked just fine. If you have a little solder left in the hole that doesn't want to come out (after the xtal is removed) just add a little solder to the hole, then use the sucker again, and it will remove it all, resulting in a clean hole. -- GB 73 KA5OAI Sam Morgan Linux, the lifetime learning experience. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and PSK
Robert Hall - KE7VHF wrote: Is there somewhere where I might find a more exhaustive step by step discussion of seting up sound levels on the pc while connected to the K3. I may be a little dense and have not felt entirely comfortable with what I have read in the manual. Maybe this discussion might include config menu items and what the different settings would do to effect the way the K3 behaves with different modes? A good example of this is the idea of setting the number of bars for pc output, correct? Would this be done for actual rf output or would this be done via setting tx to test? It really would be impossible to do this because the output level and input sensitivity of different sound cards will vary. The output even varies from one program to another. The receive side is easy enough, and can be adjusted until you see a faint moving background on the waterfall with a quiet band, and the signals stand out clear. On transmit I would suggest that you just increase the audio going in to the radio using a combination of the slider on the PC mixer and the MIC control, until the output on the power meter reads the power you want. Ideally you should do this while getting the software to send a Tune signal - a pure tone, and aim for 50W or less. A modulated PSK signal should give a reading of less than half the peak power, so no more than three bars on the power scale. I'm unhappy with the advice to set the level to 4 or 5 bars on the ALC scale because when I do this my K3 puts out twice the power set on the POWER control making it far too easy to overdrive the PA. I prefer to adjust the input level until the output power matches what it says on the power control. Then I can use the power control intuitively to set the power the same way it works in CW and SSB modes. For me, the amount of input needed to do this is some way below the point at which ANY ALC blobs appear. - Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222. http://www.g4ilo.com/ G4ILO's Shack http://www.ham-directory.com/ Ham Directoryhttp://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html KComm for Elecraft K2 and K3 -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-and-PSK-tp2236491p2240350.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Impossible mission? USB with the 13khz filter for PSK31 on Digipan
Hi there, I am running my K3 with Digipan computer software on PSK 31. I also have a full complement of 5 filters in the K3, with the widest being the KFL3B-FM 13Khz filter. Because Digipan can receive many PSK signals at once (Multichannel Window), I would like to set my K3 to receive USB through the 13Khz filter. Unfortunately, despite specifically enabling the KFL3B-FM 13Khz filter in USB mode, I cannot get 13Khz of bandwidth in USB receive. As a matter of fact, I cannot seem to get much more then 4Khz of receive in USB receive mode. I can get the XFIL display to tell me I am receiving through the 13Khz filter, but only about 4Khz of audio will pass through (perhaps the DSP??). Am I missing something here, or is this just an oversight in firmware design? Multichannel simultaneous receive of a massive chunk of bandwidth is a great feature of Digipan that I would love to take advantage of with my K3. Does someone know how to receive USB at a 13Khz bandwidth with the K3? 73, Tom-N2YTF___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and PSK
Don, Lyle, Greg, You guys are fabulous! Thank you. I would really like to make sure I have things tied down for Feb. 73's Rob KE7VHF Robert Hall www.RobertHall.com On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote: Robert, I don't know of any step-by-step instructions, the whole picture is complicated because of the variety of computer soundcards that could be used. As far as the K3 is concerned, the procedure is simple - adjust the line-in gain setting, much as you would with the mic gain. Yes, the level can be set using TX TEST - and it is best if you do it that way because you don't both other hams with on-the-air signals. Normally there are two controls to work with - the LINE gain setting in the K3 and the Line-out soundcard controls on your PC. The output from soundcards vary, so you will just have to manipulate them and see what happens. For starters, I would suggest setting the soundcard line-out level at the slider midpoint, then adjust the LINE gain setting on the K3. You should strive for settings that will allow you some later adjustment room if possible, but if your soundcard output level is very low or very high, that may not be possible. You want to have a maximum of 4 bars of the ALC meter illuminated. 5 bars is where the 'real' ALC comes into operation, and the bars below the 5th act more like as a 'VU meter'. You want the level as high as possible without actually driving it into the ALC region (5th bar). Robert Hall wrote: Is there somewhere where I might find a more exhaustive step by step discussion of seting up sound levels on the pc while connected to the K3. I may be a little dense and have not felt entirely comfortable with what I have read in the manual. Maybe this discussion might include config menu items and what the different settings would do to effect the way the K3 behaves with different modes? A good example of this is the idea of setting the number of bars for pc output, correct? Would this be done for actual rf output or would this be done via setting tx to test? thank you, Rob KE7VHF Robert Hall www.RobertHall.com http://www.roberthall.com/ http://www.RobertHall.com http://www.roberthall.com/ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Impossible mission? USB with the 13khz filter for PSK31 on Digipan
Thomas Tumino wrote: Hi there, I am running my K3 with Digipan computer software on PSK 31. I also have a full complement of 5 filters in the K3, with the widest being the KFL3B-FM 13Khz filter. Because Digipan can receive many PSK signals at once (Multichannel Window), I would like to set my K3 to receive USB through the 13Khz filter. Unfortunately, despite specifically enabling the KFL3B-FM 13Khz filter in USB mode, I cannot get 13Khz of bandwidth in USB receive. As a matter of fact, I cannot seem to get much more then 4Khz of receive in USB receive mode. I can get the XFIL display to tell me I am receiving through the 13Khz filter, but only about 4Khz of audio will pass through (perhaps the DSP??). Am I missing something here, or is this just an oversight in firmware design? Multichannel simultaneous receive of a massive chunk of bandwidth is a great feature of Digipan that I would love to take advantage of with my K3. Does someone know how to receive USB at a 13Khz bandwidth with the K3? I don't use Digipan but I doubt if it is capable of displaying that big a slice of bandwidth. The maximum that can be received is half the sampling rate the software uses. Many of the older digimode programs use a sampling rate of 8KHz or 11.025KHz. So my first question is what sampling rate are you using? My second question is, what is the point anyway? All the PSK31 activity here takes place in a bandwidth of about 3KHz. So a 4KHz waterfall would show you all you wanted to see. If it covered any wider then stations operating close together would be hard to tell apart. - Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222. http://www.g4ilo.com/ G4ILO's Shack http://www.ham-directory.com/ Ham Directoryhttp://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html KComm for Elecraft K2 and K3 -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Impossible-mission--USB-with-the-13khz-filter-for-PSK31-on-Digipan-tp2240355p2240400.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 feature request: Save Menu's states
Wayne, Thank you for the info. Makes sense to leave it where it is. There is so much to learn with rigs these days it can be difficult to remember it all. I cannot tell you how much I appreciate the quality of the radio. I haven't turned on my other HF equipment because of the K3. (I do use the ts2000 for independent VHF UHF monitoring. That will change once the independent VFO on separate bands becomes a reality for the K3. Then I will probably add the Xverters, etc., 73, Bill K9YEQ K2 #35; KX1 #35; K3 #1744; mini mods -Original Message- From: wayne burdick [mailto:n...@elecraft.com] There are many subtleties to user interface design, and it'll never be perfect for everyone. I feel that this is an important design choice that should remain in place. 73, Wayne N6KR Bill Johnson wrote: Could the state of the Menu's be left at last position when turning the rig on and off? Right now it appears they revert back to the beginning. I would like to resume where I left off when I turn the rig on. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] A plug for Nifty! accessories
I just bought one a couple of weeks ago and it shows firmware revs up through 2.67. 73, Dave AB7E Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604 wrote: It's very useful, but at the rate things are changing, it's always going to be a bit out-of-date. Combined with an electronic copy of the current manual and the firmware notes, you've got everything covered. Mine is less thn 6 months old, but reflects MCU firmware 2.22, and I'm running 2.78. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3, Mixw, Rigexpert, and Vista problem
I'm trying to get things going on VISTA. I downloaded the VISTA version of the RE and MIXW driver. I used VISTA Device Manager to set USB Serial port to be 13, 4800 baud. I used MIXW to set Kenwood, K2 model, com 13, 4800 baud. When I bring up MIXW I get message indicating com13 is already in use. Has anyone gone thru this? Ken K5WK___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] A plug for Nifty! accessories
Yes, true, but they do update pages - just not sure if there are any available yet. 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 -- I know that you believe that you understood what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant. - Robert McCloskey, State Department spokesman (attributed) On 29 Jan 2009, at 15:40, Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604 wrote: It's very useful, but at the rate things are changing, it's always going to be a bit out-of-date. Combined with an electronic copy of the current manual and the firmware notes, you've got everything covered. Mine is less thn 6 months old, but reflects MCU firmware 2.22, and I'm running 2.78. 73, doug From: David Ferrington, M0XDF m0...@alphadene.co.uk Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:00:12 + It's great On 29 Jan 2009, at 00:17, Barbara Maloney wrote: What about the Nifty K3 operating manual? Anyone use it who can comment or recommend? Might be handy for portable operation. Mike, AC5P ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Impossible mission? USB with the 13khz filter for PSK31 on Digipan
I don't use Digipan but I doubt if it is capable of displaying that big a slice of bandwidth. The maximum that can be received is half the sampling rate the software uses. Many of the older digimode programs use a sampling rate of 8KHz or 11.025KHz. So my first question is what sampling rate are you using? Thanks for the advice.I am running at 12Khz, giving me a 6Khz receive limit on the computer...good point. Still, I can only get about 4Khz out of the K3 even though I have the 12Khz filter, and I wouldn't be surprised to find other software out there that will go much wider. My second question is, what is the point anyway? All the PSK31 activity here takes place in a bandwidth of about 3KHz. I guess a lot of the time that is true, but certainly during the PSK 31 contests things broaden out a bit. So a 4KHz waterfall would show you all you wanted to see. If it covered any wider then stations operating close together would be hard to tell apart. I don't understand what you mean by that. Why would they be harder to tell apart if I had more bandwidth? I don't want to run broadbandwidth all the time, just long enough to find somthing interesting and then I want to narrow down to 50Khz (I also have the 200hz filter) to peak it up. Actually, that brings up another point, I wish the filter shift would move in increments smaller than the current increment so that I could really zero in on psk31 signals, as they are so close sometimes, and I like to operate in the smallest bandwidth possible. Thanks again, Tom-N2YTF -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Impossible-mission--USB-with-the-13khz-filter-for-PSK31-on-Digipan-tp2240355p2240595.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and PSK
I'm unhappy with the advice to set the level to 4 or 5 bars on the ALC scale because when I do this my K3 puts out twice the power set on the POWER control making it far too easy to overdrive the PA. I prefer to adjust the input level until the output power matches what it says on the power control. Then I can use the power control intuitively to set the power the same way it works in CW and SSB modes. For me, the amount of input needed to do this is some way below the point at which ANY ALC blobs appear. If you really must do this, you should probably set CONFIG:TX ALC OFF once you've adjusted your power level using the PWR control. Otherwise the ALC system will see the Tx output not being what was requested and will increase the gain, leading to power creep and all sorts of other problems. And a side effect is that when you next request power, you'll get alot more than you asked for because the ALC loop now believes the Tx chain gain is far less than it actually is. The ALC 5 bar level is the level to which all transmit system gains are balanced -- at least those that use any sort of audio as the ultimate source. In the latest Beta code I tried very hard to balance levels so that CONFIG:TXG VCE can be set to 0.0dB. This might have been affecting your power control issues. I did extensive testing with Olivia (125/8 through 2000/64) and WSPR to be sure the power levels are as requested and stable. At least on my K3, they seem to be. 73, Lyle KK7P ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Impossible mission? USB with the 13khz filter for PSK31on Digipan
Joe Subich, W4TV-4 wrote: Unfortunately, despite specifically enabling the KFL3B-FM 13Khz filter in USB mode, I cannot get 13Khz of bandwidth in USB receive. As a matter of fact, I cannot seem to get much more then 4Khz of receive in USB receive mode. You will not see more than 4 KHz of audio in any mode. The DSP includes a brickwall cut-off at 4200 Hz in SSB, DATA, AM and FM with a lower (2800 Hz) cutoff in CW. With LP-PAN and PowerSDR or Winrad you can open up the audio bandwidth (20Khz?) 73, Barry N1EU -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Impossible-mission--USB-with-the-13khz-filter-for-PSK31-on-Digipan-tp2240355p2240701.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Impossible mission? USB with the 13khz filter for PSK31on Digipan
Unfortunately, despite specifically enabling the KFL3B-FM 13Khz filter in USB mode, I cannot get 13Khz of bandwidth in USB receive. As a matter of fact, I cannot seem to get much more then 4Khz of receive in USB receive mode. You will not see more than 4 KHz of audio in any mode. The DSP includes a brickwall cut-off at 4200 Hz in SSB, DATA, AM and FM with a lower (2800 Hz) cutoff in CW. 73, ... Joe, W4TV -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Thomas Tumino Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 12:59 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Impossible mission? USB with the 13khz filter for PSK31on Digipan Hi there, I am running my K3 with Digipan computer software on PSK 31. I also have a full complement of 5 filters in the K3, with the widest being the KFL3B-FM 13Khz filter. Because Digipan can receive many PSK signals at once (Multichannel Window), I would like to set my K3 to receive USB through the 13Khz filter. Unfortunately, despite specifically enabling the KFL3B-FM 13Khz filter in USB mode, I cannot get 13Khz of bandwidth in USB receive. As a matter of fact, I cannot seem to get much more then 4Khz of receive in USB receive mode. I can get the XFIL display to tell me I am receiving through the 13Khz filter, but only about 4Khz of audio will pass through (perhaps the DSP??). Am I missing something here, or is this just an oversight in firmware design? Multichannel simultaneous receive of a massive chunk of bandwidth is a great feature of Digipan that I would love to take advantage of with my K3. Does someone know how to receive USB at a 13Khz bandwidth with the K3? 73, Tom-N2YTF ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Upgrade question
All, Believe it or not, I already own both of the RS items. I abandon the desoldering iron because of the temperature issue Ron mentioned. I feel that the sucker doesn't really cut it as far as vacuum power. I was planning on using my Weller WES50 station and the trusty old Sold-a-pult. I guess I panic whenever there is a chance the a board could get destroyed. It seems the consensus is that the rock-and-pull method should work without a problem assuming the temperature is kept low enough. I guess the next logical question would be, What's the difference between the old and new crystals?. Were the older crystals of inferior quality? Thanks to everyone, Jim --- r...@cobi.biz wrote: From: Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz To: 'elecraft Reflector' elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Upgrade question Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:58:47 -0800 These are inexpensive and effective desoldering tools, but be aware they are *not* temperature controlled. The tip temperature can soar to well over 800F, especially while sitting on the cradle, then drop too low if you are removing parts from board that includes a fair-sized ground plane. Such heat extremes - too high or so low the iron is on the board too long - can easily debond (lift) circuit traces and do other nasty stuff. That's why Elecraft calls for a temperature-controlled iron in all the manuals and mod instructions. It's the temperature control that causes most of the price difference. Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Sam Morgan Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 9:27 AM To: Joe Planisky Cc: elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Upgrade question Joe Planisky wrote: Hi Jim, I've had good results using a GC Electronics Solder Popper (part # 12-2157). It's a 30W soldering iron with a built-in spring loaded solder sucker. While it's certainly not equal to something like a Hakko 808, it's adequate for occasional use. And at less than $40, it's about 1/4 the cost. I made a homebrew version of that using: http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062731 removed the rubber bulb and added a piece of clear tubing and: http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062745 total cost about $20.00 I used it for removing the 14 xtals in my K2 just a few weeks ago worked just fine. If you have a little solder left in the hole that doesn't want to come out (after the xtal is removed) just add a little solder to the hole, then use the sucker again, and it will remove it all, resulting in a clean hole. -- GB 73 KA5OAI Sam Morgan Linux, the lifetime learning experience. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] dB Gain -- was RE: [K3] FLx GN Adding Db gain
my wife's car stereo has an adjustment for CDs it optionally reduces the dynamic range to you CAN hear it in the car, with all that ambient. bill ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Impossible mission? USB with the 13khz filter for PSK31on Digipan
LP Pan and WinRad are using the K3's IF, not the audio output from the K3. - 73, Greg - AB7R Whidbey Island WA NA-065 On Thu Jan 29 11:02 , Barry N1EU sent: Joe Subich, W4TV-4 wrote: Unfortunately, despite specifically enabling the KFL3B-FM 13Khz filter in USB mode, I cannot get 13Khz of bandwidth in USB receive. As a matter of fact, I cannot seem to get much more then 4Khz of receive in USB receive mode. You will not see more than 4 KHz of audio in any mode. The DSP includes a brickwall cut-off at 4200 Hz in SSB, DATA, AM and FM with a lower (2800 Hz) cutoff in CW. With LP-PAN and PowerSDR or Winrad you can open up the audio bandwidth (20Khz?) 73, Barry N1EU -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Impossible-mission--USB-with- the-13khz-filter-for-PSK31-on-Digipan-tp2240355p2240701.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Impossible mission? USB with the 13khz filter for PSK31on Digipan
Unfortunately, despite specifically enabling the KFL3B-FM 13Khz filter in USB mode, I cannot get 13Khz of bandwidth in USB receive. As a matter of fact, I cannot seem to get much more then 4Khz of receive in USB receive mode. You will not see more than 4 KHz of audio in any mode. The DSP includes a brickwall cut-off at 4200 Hz in SSB, DATA, AM and FM with a lower (2800 Hz) cutoff in CW. 73, ... Joe, W4TV Joe,I wonder why they setup the radio that waythatsa limiting factor when using programs like CW skimmerwhich like Digipan decodes a 3Khz+ swath of CW stationsall at once..73-Tom-N2YTF -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Thomas Tumino Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 12:59 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Impossible mission? USB with the 13khz filter for PSK31on Digipan Hi there, I am running my K3 with Digipan computer software on PSK 31. I also have a full complement of 5 filters in the K3, with the widest being the KFL3B-FM 13Khz filter. Because Digipan can receive many PSK signals at once (Multichannel Window), I would like to set my K3 to receive USB through the 13Khz filter. Unfortunately, despite specifically enabling the KFL3B-FM 13Khz filter in USB mode, I cannot get 13Khz of bandwidth in USB receive. As a matter of fact, I cannot seem to get much more then 4Khz of receive in USB receive mode. I can get the XFIL display to tell me I am receiving through the 13Khz filter, but only about 4Khz of audio will pass through (perhaps the DSP??). Am I missing something here, or is this just an oversight in firmware design? Multichannel simultaneous receive of a massive chunk of bandwidth is a great feature of Digipan that I would love to take advantage of with my K3. Does someone know how to receive USB at a 13Khz bandwidth with the K3? 73, Tom-N2YTF ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K2 low resistance at pin 8 U6 rf board.
Hello all K2 users. I'm trying to track down a problem on the rf board. Pin 8 of U6 shows a resistance of approx 50 ohm when it's supposed to be greater than 100 ohms. I've gone ahead and assembled the rest of the kit and I am not happy with the amount of current it draws, approx 240 mils. I notice that when listening to WWV at 10 megs if I hit the dit key, the current drops to 160 mils. Anyone else see that? I wonder what part of the circuit is dropped when the key is closed and if it's the 8B line, (where I'm seeing the low resistance.) I know I can use it the way it is but it's really not what I'd like to use if it draws more current than it's supposed to. Don and Gary have offered advice and I wonder if anyone else could shed more light on locating the problem of low resistance. Nothing is getting overly warm, that I can find. Thanks. John. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Impossible mission? USB with the 13khz filter for PSK31on Digipan
Greg - AB7R wrote: LP Pan and WinRad are using the K3's IF, not the audio output from the K3. I didn't see that requirement in the original post's question: Does someone know how to receive USB at a 13Khz bandwidth with the K3? Actually, I tried it and it seems that PowerSDR is limited to 10Khz and Winrad less than that, so LP-PAN evidently won't get you there either at this time. 73, Barry N1EU -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Impossible-mission--USB-with-the-13khz-filter-for-PSK31-on-Digipan-tp2240355p2241518.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Impossible mission? USB with the 13khz filter for PSK31on Digipan
The K3 audio channel is designed for communications audio in a bandwidth of 5 kHz or less. There are a number of reasons for this. Using the 13 kHz roofing filter doesn't change that. It does widen the IF passband and make the radio more susceptible to nearby, very strong signals. Think of it as a way to emulate the performance of high-IF radios with wide roofing filters :-) In addition, most PSK31 activity takes place in a 3 kHz or less window on most bands since that is what most SSB filters will pass in most radios. I almost always narrow the passband once I have a QSO in progress since a strong station coming on can activate the AGC and push down the signal I am trying to copy, or affect the soundcard input, etc. 73, Lyle KK7P ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] AC supply for KX-1
Yeah - Batteries Plus is a good source for AGM batteries. You may have one in town, else you could order online. The battery I have is the Werker 7.5ah: http://www.batteriesplus.com/pc-32634-32634-WKA12-7.5F.aspx You can get quite a smaller capacity model as well to save weight and $$$. They sell Werker brand AGM battery chargers, you will find those on there as well. However I have a Battery Tender Plus which is a bit pricier, but I use it for my motorcycle batter as well. djmd wrote: I have to second this idea - dollar for dollar you aren't going to get any cleaner power than a little battery. I use a 7.2ah battery for my KX1, which I can bring outside, bring on the trail, or use anywhere in the house... will last nearly forever. Even a small 3ah would last a heck of a long time, and would also be useful for other radios/projects. I use a battery tender plus, but I'm sure you could get a cheaper charger to do the job. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/AC-supply-for-KX-1-tp2229341p2241614.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Upgrade question
Jim, The 'old' crystals were used in K2s prior to SN 2560, so if your SN is higher, you have the newer crystals. The old crystals quality was not inferior - as quality is normally measured for crystals used for oscillators and such. However, Elecraft tightened the specs on the motional parameters with the crystal manufacturer, and the new crystals are more tightly controlled for the parameters that matter most in a crystal filter. 73, Don W3FPR Jim Giercyk wrote: I guess the next logical question would be, What's the difference between the old and new crystals?. Were the older crystals of inferior quality? Thanks to everyone, Jim ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2 - RF Board part 2
Thanks Don, this did the trick! Unfortunately I can't test it again on the dipole... mother nature decided to dump an inch of ice on us which weighted down the antenna and took down the mast holding up one end of it. booo... I'm still a little bit concerned about the strange noises I was hearing on and off throughout the band when I was connected to the big antenna. But I think I am just going to start part 3. Don Wilhelm-4 wrote: The first thing you should do when you get back to it Thursday is to put the bottom cover on (using all 6 screws) if it is not already mounted, and then run CAL PLL. That should set your tuning straight. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K2---RF-Board-part-2-tp2215492p2241655.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Impossible mission? USB with the 13khz filter for PSK31on Digipan
I wonder why they setup the radio that waythats a limiting factor when using programs like CW skimmer which like Digipan decodes a 3Khz+ swath of CW stations all at once.. It looks like DigiPan will run/display up to 5500 Hz - that doesn't seem to be a significant benefit above the K3's 4200 Hz limit. CW Skimmer requires separate I/Q sources in order to do broadband decoding and that's not available from the K3 audio interface (Line Out). I don't know the DAC clock rate is but if possible it would be nice to be able to sretch the response to 5500 or 6000 Hz for occasional use with AM/SWL/etc. However, I'd rather see per mode EQ and some extensions to the CAT interface first. 73, ... Joe, W4TV -Original Message- From: Thomas Tumino [mailto:thomastum...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 4:35 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; li...@subich.com Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Impossible mission? USB with the 13khz filter for PSK31on Digipan Unfortunately, despite specifically enabling the KFL3B-FM 13Khz filter in USB mode, I cannot get 13Khz of bandwidth in USB receive. As a matter of fact, I cannot seem to get much more then 4Khz of receive in USB receive mode. You will not see more than 4 KHz of audio in any mode. The DSP includes a brickwall cut-off at 4200 Hz in SSB, DATA, AM and FM with a lower (2800 Hz) cutoff in CW. 73, ... Joe, W4TV Joe, I wonder why they setup the radio that waythats a limiting factor when using programs like CW skimmer which like Digipan decodes a 3Khz+ swath of CW stations all at once.. 73-Tom-N2YTF -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Thomas Tumino Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 12:59 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Impossible mission? USB with the 13khz filter for PSK31on Digipan Hi there, I am running my K3 with Digipan computer software on PSK 31. I also have a full complement of 5 filters in the K3, with the widest being the KFL3B-FM 13Khz filter. Because Digipan can receive many PSK signals at once (Multichannel Window), I would like to set my K3 to receive USB through the 13Khz filter. Unfortunately, despite specifically enabling the KFL3B-FM 13Khz filter in USB mode, I cannot get 13Khz of bandwidth in USB receive. As a matter of fact, I cannot seem to get much more then 4Khz of receive in USB receive mode. I can get the XFIL display to tell me I am receiving through the 13Khz filter, but only about 4Khz of audio will pass through (perhaps the DSP??). Am I missing something here, or is this just an oversight in firmware design? Multichannel simultaneous receive of a massive chunk of bandwidth is a great feature of Digipan that I would love to take advantage of with my K3. Does someone know how to receive USB at a 13Khz bandwidth with the K3? 73, Tom-N2YTF ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Help with Freq. memory!
From a Greenhorn, What I want to do is get a frequency (50.125mhz) into the quick memory, which I suppose is M1-M4 circular config on the right-hand side of the rig like when using CW on any particular band and recording a CW macro-msg. Some quick method of getting that particular freq. into it, so that whatever other band I'm on when I want 50.125mhz I'd hit (1) button!!! Can anybody out here help me with a STEP-BY-STEP LESSON to accomplish the goal??? Regards, Jim/nn6ee PS, Looking thru the manual it did'nt realy explain that particular PROCEDURE or else I missed something! ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Impossible mission? USB with the 13khz filter for PSK31on Digipan
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 11:02 PM, Leigh L. Klotz, Jr. WA5ZNU le...@wa5znu.org wrote: Since PowerSDR was origianally designed for the even wider SDR devices, I'd expect that it would be able to show you more than 10Khz. Maybe it's a setting? Perhapshe LP-PAN yahoo group would be the place to look. Leigh, we're talking about audio output, not panadapter diplay width. Besides a panadapter display, the LP-PAN software will demodulate any displayed signal under user control and provide demodulated audio output. 73, Barry N1EU ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2 low resistance at pin 8 U6 rf board.
John, 240 ma is quite normal for receive current on a K2. However, I just measured the resistance from RF board U6 to ground on 2 K2s and found the normal resistance is about 240 ohms. I also tried checking the current draw when the dit key is held down (power set to zero and the keying input set to HAND) - the current increase is a bit over 20 ma., so I can't explain why you are seeing only 160 ma - unless your keying input is set to paddles, and then it is possible that the changing display numbers are not settling fast enough to give you a valid reading. 73, Don W3FPR John wrote: Hello all K2 users. I'm trying to track down a problem on the rf board. Pin 8 of U6 shows a resistance of approx 50 ohm when it's supposed to be greater than 100 ohms. I've gone ahead and assembled the rest of the kit and I am not happy with the amount of current it draws, approx 240 mils. I notice that when listening to WWV at 10 megs if I hit the dit key, the current drops to 160 mils. Anyone else see that? I wonder what part of the circuit is dropped when the key is closed and if it's the 8B line, (where I'm seeing the low resistance.) I know I can use it the way it is but it's really not what I'd like to use if it draws more current than it's supposed to. Don and Gary have offered advice and I wonder if anyone else could shed more light on locating the problem of low resistance. Nothing is getting overly warm, that I can find. Thanks. John. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] PowerSDR-IF
Here is my question: If anyone is using this PowerSDR-IF software with a Softrock as an IF for a K2.. What IF Frequency(s) have you entered on that Softrock IF Stage tab. for LSB, USB and CW ? About 3 pages down from: http://www.wu2x.com/sdr.html#gettingstarted you will find an image of the Softrock IF Stage tab: http://www.wu2x.com/images/setup2.jpg http://www.wu2x.com/sdr.html -- GB 73 KA5OAI Sam Morgan Linux, the lifetime learning experience. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] PowerSDR-IF
Sam Morgan-3 wrote: Here is my question: If anyone is using this PowerSDR-IF software with a Softrock as an IF for a K2.. What IF Frequency(s) have you entered on that Softrock IF Stage tab. for LSB, USB and CW ? It will be in the neighborhood of 6000hz, as indicated in the manual. The IF Freq will vary slightly if your roofing filter offset frequencies vary as you change modes and selectivity on your K3. FYI, there's an LP-PAN Yahoo User's Group. 73, Barry N1EU -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/PowerSDR-IF-tp2242096p2242340.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K2 C22 ID
Hi - Just a quick check here. C22 calls for a 3.3pf, manual says it should be labeled 2R7, 3, 3.3, or 3R3. I have none of those - but do have one labeled 2.7C... just wanted to make sure this was the guy. Thanks!! -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K2-C22-ID-tp2242383p2242383.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2 C22 ID
Use it, it is correct for a 2.7 pf capacitor. The number of ways a capacitor can be marked are too numerous to cover in a brief description in a parts list. Sorry that the manual is confusing on issues like this, but there is no good way to prevent it. If you want to become familiar with the various markings used for capacitors, the ARRL Handbook is a good resource, but even their lengthy discussion is not complete. 73, Don W3FPR djmd wrote: Hi - Just a quick check here. C22 calls for a 3.3pf, manual says it should be labeled 2R7, 3, 3.3, or 3R3. I have none of those - but do have one labeled 2.7C... just wanted to make sure this was the guy. Thanks!! ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] PowerSDR-IF
Sam, I am not using a Softrock with the K2, but the principle is the same as that indicated in the article you referenced. The K2 IF center is close to 4913 kHz, but will vary from K2 to K2, and the CW center frequency will be different than the SSB filter center. Your softrock receiver will have its own center frequency. So do exactly as the article says - subtract them and enter that into PowerSDR as your initial trial. That will get something on the screen at approximately the frequency indicated by PowerSDR. That can be refined by using a signal of known frequency. 73, Don W3FPR Sam Morgan wrote: Here is my question: If anyone is using this PowerSDR-IF software with a Softrock as an IF for a K2.. What IF Frequency(s) have you entered on that Softrock IF Stage tab. for LSB, USB and CW ? About 3 pages down from: http://www.wu2x.com/sdr.html#gettingstarted you will find an image of the Softrock IF Stage tab: http://www.wu2x.com/images/setup2.jpg http://www.wu2x.com/sdr.html ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3, Mixw, Rigexpert, and Vista problem
Hello Ken, If your using rigexpert with the mixw software you have to set the soundcard to rigexpert first. then when you go to cat interface it will show the rig expert. I had it working great. I now use a Navigator interface. But the rigexpert was all I needed.. Don...w2xb Kenneth Waites wrote: I'm trying to get things going on VISTA. I downloaded the VISTA version of the RE and MIXW driver. I used VISTA Device Manager to set USB Serial port to be 13, 4800 baud. I used MIXW to set Kenwood, K2 model, com 13, 4800 baud. When I bring up MIXW I get message indicating com13 is already in use. Has anyone gone thru this? Ken K5WK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3%2C-Mixw%2C-Rigexpert%2C-and-Vista-problem-tp2240451p2242846.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K2 freq calibration...
I am having a hard time getting the frequency calibration on my K2 closer than 80 Hz. I set the osc to exactly 4Mhz, plus or minus a Hz on the pro3 switching between usb and lsb, it also agrees with the HP spectrum analyzer, I then run the cal pll, and the bfo calibration, and when tuning in ssb signals, they sound normal 80 or more Hz higher than they should (as tuned in on the pro 3). Is this as good as it gets on ssb? I have compared CW signals between the two rigs and they are very close, within about 10 Hz on 80 meters anyway. It seems the freq counter, pll cal, and bfo all sort of interact, but if the freq counter calibration is spot on, why the 80 Hz difference? (80 Hz is as close as I have gotten it in many attempts) Also, is it normal for the non ssb filters to look SO bad on spectrogram?? I got the ssb option on Tuesday, it was done Tuesday night, the antenna tuner was done Wednesday, no problems with them, no missing parts, no issues, I made my first ssb contact yesterday on 80 meters using the hand mic from the pro 3. SSB from the K2 sounds good in the pro 3, the report I got said it sounded a bit restricted, the hand mic sounds poor on the pro 3... What would be a nice sounding microphone to use with the K2? Also, I have been thinking of taking down the home made G5RV and trying an alpha delta dx-lb plus (160 through 10), the G5RV does not seem to work as good as the 40 meter dipole on 40, and its likely worse on other bands... Anyone got anything bad to say about the dx-lb plus, I know its not as good as a full size 160 m antenna, but I have about 110 feet max between trees. I sure am enjoying the K2! Brett N2DTS ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2 freq calibration...
Brett, You ask several questions, and I will delay on all of them except the one about calibration. You are relying on too many variables when setting the 4 MHz reference oscillator. To reduce those variables, use the N6KR method that is documented at http://www.elecraft.com/Apps/K2%20C22%20Adjust%20App%20Note.pdf. If you can tune WWV accurately, all other variables are cancelled out by that method. You may also find helpful information in the K2 Dial Calibration article on my website www.w3fpr.com. For your restriceted SSB audio, consider the comments in that article about the low frequency corner of the SSB filter passband carefully - 300 Hz is the 'magic' frequency. After you get the dial calibration correct (within 20 Hz or less), ask about the other items. 73, Don W3FPR Brett Gazdzinski wrote: I am having a hard time getting the frequency calibration on my K2 closer than 80 Hz. I set the osc to exactly 4Mhz, plus or minus a Hz on the pro3 switching between usb and lsb, it also agrees with the HP spectrum analyzer, I then run the cal pll, and the bfo calibration, and when tuning in ssb signals, they sound normal 80 or more Hz higher than they should (as tuned in on the pro 3). Is this as good as it gets on ssb? I have compared CW signals between the two rigs and they are very close, within about 10 Hz on 80 meters anyway. It seems the freq counter, pll cal, and bfo all sort of interact, but if the freq counter calibration is spot on, why the 80 Hz difference? (80 Hz is as close as I have gotten it in many attempts) Also, is it normal for the non ssb filters to look SO bad on spectrogram?? I got the ssb option on Tuesday, it was done Tuesday night, the antenna tuner was done Wednesday, no problems with them, no missing parts, no issues, I made my first ssb contact yesterday on 80 meters using the hand mic from the pro 3. SSB from the K2 sounds good in the pro 3, the report I got said it sounded a bit restricted, the hand mic sounds poor on the pro 3... What would be a nice sounding microphone to use with the K2? Also, I have been thinking of taking down the home made G5RV and trying an alpha delta dx-lb plus (160 through 10), the G5RV does not seem to work as good as the 40 meter dipole on 40, and its likely worse on other bands... Anyone got anything bad to say about the dx-lb plus, I know its not as good as a full size 160 m antenna, but I have about 110 feet max between trees. I sure am enjoying the K2! Brett N2DTS ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 and Windows 7
Took a bit of fiddling to get LP_Bridge to create virtual com ports, but everything is now working with Windows 7. LP_Bridge sees the K3. PowerSDR works with my 0202 USB Sound card. HDR connects too. The K3 utility works as I was able to backup my K3. The first two installations of Windows 7 failed with a blue screen at the final reboot. It turns out the two USB to serial interface drivers were hanging things up. I simply unplugged the hardware, did the install, then plugged them back in. They run fine now. Not sure why they hosed the install?? I guess the install doesn't like the drivers, but Windows 7 has no problem after it's running. I can't say exactly what was hanging up LP_Bridge the first few times I installed it. On about the third install I tried installing it to 'My Documents' rather than 'Program Files'. Worked fine then. Vista has new security models for the 'Program Files' DIR which is what I suspect to be causing the issues. However, after the successful install to the 'My Docs' I was able to uninstall and reinstall to the 'Program Files' DIR. Go figure. Adam - ka7ark ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Watt Meter Behavior
My watt meter seems to behave strangely in SSB. I've run all the calibrations and have it hooked to the Elecraft W1 watt meter and 50 ohm dummy load. When set for 100 watts, I get 100 watts on both the K3 and the W1 on CW key down. On SSB, the K3 meter regularly exceeds 100 watts, pegging the 120 lines while the W1 peaks out at 100 watts. I've noticed this for several revision of firmware. I also just downloaded verson 2.8 and tried setting the SMTR PK to ON, but the peak reading doesn't seem to work anymore. Anyone else have this experience? Jim - W6VAR -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Watt-Meter-Behavior-tp2243523p2243523.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3, Mixw, Rigexpert, and Vista prob
The problem was a mixture of two versions of mixw. Now the only thing I still have to get working is the PTT so ESC key will toggle between TX and RX, I have it set up in the cat interface, but so far its not working. Now I think I may have to change something in the K3 PTT config items. Ken K5WK___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com