[Elecraft] ECO for SPOT Control - feedback

2009-02-04 Thread Ken Kopp
How would this differ from calling CQ and subsequently
operating throughout a QSO in SPLIT mode? This way,
if the other guy drifts, the two of you don't leap-frog up or
down in frequency.  Using SPLIT seems much easier than 
twiddling ... and resetting ... the RIT, a control I never use.  
This is the way I always operate.

I did turn on RIT once ... to see if it worked.  I could well 
be missing something, though 

CWT remaining turned on in CW mode is GREAT!  Thanks 
Wayne!  CWT is probably my radio's most-used feature. (:-)

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 main/sub band independence -- need more firmware testers

2009-02-04 Thread AD6XY

Excellent. I bet it does not work with two transverters though - how could
it? What I hope it will do is work with 6m and a transverter, for 50/70MHz
crossband Es.

I can test but as I do not have the ATU the results might not be very
interesting because both receivers will have to share the same antenna.
Which brings me on to a question if I did have the ATU. 

If the two receivers are on different bands, but with only one antenna,
presumably the sub still received through the ATU which may be a problem if
the ATU is lossy on that band, so... can the ATU be bypassed on receive?

Mike



wayne burdick wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 The K3's main/sub band independence functionality is working quite 
 well. To get it finalized, I'd like to find a few more enthusiastic 
 testers to pound on it. The present code (rev 2.92) is at field-test 
 level, so this is not for the risk-averse.
 
 Please e-mail me directly if you're interested. I already have several 
 names on my list and will be contacting everyone tomorrow.
 
 73,
 Wayne
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 interface to THP 1.5Kfx amp

2009-02-04 Thread AD6XY

Thanks for this info, I have a 50W THP amplifier and found the DIN didn't fit
properly. Now I know why.

I have an HL1.2kfx which came with a plug which I have wired up for PTT.
This amplifier produces 600W rather than 750W and is a good match to the K3
for those countries with 400W limits and without the +-3dB measurement
tolerance applicable in Germany, where they have a terrible problem
calibrating their power meters.

The 1.2kfx does not come with automatic band switching yet internally it is
almost exactly the same as the 1.5kfx and uses relays for band select
controlled by a rotary switch. The RF decks are the same but the PSU is
lighter duty which is why the power rating is lower. Once the warranty runs
out I will enable automatic band selection via a logic board.



Phil amp; Debbie Salas wrote:
 
 The THP 5-pin DIN is actually a 6-pin DIN, but they don't use pin 6.  Buy
 a 
 regular 6-pin DIN plug and it will work.
 
 Phil - AD5X 
 
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[Elecraft] K3 CW decode while VFO B is on alternate display

2009-02-04 Thread eric norris
Dear Elecrafters:

Is there a way to make the K3 decode CW even while VFO B is set to an alternate 
display like PA TEMP?  Mine decodes fine while VFO B is displaying VFO B freq, 
but not in the other modes.  It seems like it should be able to do this.  If 
this is a RTFM situation, please accept my apologies and please point me to the 
right page.  73,  Eric WD6DBM  
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Web Site - speed

2009-02-04 Thread Stewart Baker
Thanks to all who replied.
I have now tried it with 3 PC's here, and get the same result.
So unless they all have the same virus etc the problem looks ISP'ish.

The strange thing is that other US based sites such as Telepost and NASA
load at full speed.

I will get a friend who is with another ISP to try.

73
Stewart G3RXQ

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 Is it me, or is the Elecraft site very slow to load.
 At present it is a bit like kick starting a Snail.

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Web Site - speed

2009-02-04 Thread AD6XY

Many sites are slow here this morning. Others normal. It must be a networking
fault. Possibly due to snow.

Mike
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[Elecraft] [K2] Mods and AppNotes page

2009-02-04 Thread Petr Ourednik
Hello,

sorry if it was discussed already... I am looking for complete
list of Mods and AppNotes for K2 and K2/100 as I would like to
make revision of my K2/100 for which mods or appnotes I should
do. 
I found nice place for K3 where is possible to download all mods
and appnotes for K3 but nothing for K2. Did I missed it on web?

Thank You for help,

73 - Petr, OK1RP
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW decode while VFO B is on alternate display

2009-02-04 Thread Julian, G4ILO



eric norris wrote:
 
 Is there a way to make the K3 decode CW even while VFO B is set to an
 alternate display like PA TEMP?  Mine decodes fine while VFO B is
 displaying VFO B freq, but not in the other modes.  It seems like it
 should be able to do this.  If this is a RTFM situation, please accept my
 apologies and please point me to the right page.  73,  Eric WD6DBM  
 
No, you just have to disable the alternate display.

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Directoryhttp://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html KComm for Elecraft K2 and K3 
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest,Web site slow to load

2009-02-04 Thread Barry Middleton
Hello Srewart,
I am on ntlworld.com and I have just checked my 
down load speed 11.07Hrs 04/02/2009 and it is very fast, no delay at 
all. Maybe you have a problem somewhere in the system.

 73 de Barry G4DBS K2/100 owner.

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1. Re: RTTY problem (Ed Steeble)
2. Re: ATU Manual Adjust not working ? (wayne burdick)
3. K3 Mods or Updates (W0MU Mike Fatchett)
4. Re: K3 Mods or Updates (Lyle Johnson)
5.  ATU Manual Adjust not working ? (Mike Scott)
6. Elecraft Web Site - speed (Stewart Baker)
7. Re: K3 AM reception (Graham Kimbell (G3TCT))
8. Re: Elecraft Web Site - speed (Don Wilhelm)
9. Re: Elecraft Web Site - speed (Julian, G4ILO)
   10. Elecraft Items For Sale (hims...@basicisp.net)
   11. W1 housing? (Ken Kopp)
   12. Re: Elecraft Web Site - speed (Grant Youngman)
   13. Re: Elecraft Web Site - speed (Darwin, Keith)
   14. Re: W1 housing? (Dave Van Wallaghen)
   15. Re: K3 AM reception (Grant Youngman)
   16. K3 interface to THP 1.5Kfx amp (Jim Spears)
   17. (no subject) (Phil LaMarche)
   18. PEP and forward power about double of set power (Greg Buhyoff)
   19. Downloading K3 Config (Roy Morris)
   20.  K3 KDVR3 - Monitoring AF Play (Geoffrey Downs)
   21. Re: PEP and forward power about double of set power
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   22. K2 diffuser installation (Bill Miner)
   23. Re: Downloading K3 Config (Julian, G4ILO)
   24. K2 control board U6 pin 29,30 (Mike Weir)
   25. Re: Downloading K3 Config (Dick Dievendorff)
   26. [K3]  KPA3 12v Sense Mod Question (Corboy-Poteet)
   27. Re: K3 interface to THP 1.5Kfx amp (Phil  Debbie Salas)
   28. Re: [K3]  KPA3 12v Sense Mod Question (Ron D'Eau Claire)
   29. KAT2 question abt voltage at U4, pin7 (kc9...@aol.com)
   30. Re: KAT2 question abt voltage at U4, pin7 (Don Wilhelm)
   31.  K3 momentary loss of audio (W7TEA)
   32. K3 RF knob Broken (Ron Hinton)
   33. Re: K3 RF knob Broken (Jay Rodaman)
   34. Re: K3 RF knob Broken (Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604)
   35. Re: K3 RF knob Broken (wayne burdick)
   36. Re: K3 RF knob Broken (Tom Hammond)
   37. KX1 appears dead after KXB3080 PCB installed... ...Help
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   38. Re: K3 AM reception (Gill W4RYW)
   39. Set power and actual measured power all square now (Greg Buhyoff)
   40. Re: Downloading K3 Config (Roy Morris)
   41. K2 power out (John)
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 Message: 1
 Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 12:12:45 -0500
 From: Ed Steeble estee...@sc.rr.com
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RTTY problem
 To: K3_Discussion_Group elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Message-ID: 49887b0d.6070...@sc.rr.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

 I use Quick Mix http://www.ptpart.co.uk/quickmix/ to save and restore 
 my sound card setting. This program has saved me more than once.
 73, Ed
 K3IXD
 K3 1726


 Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 15:14:41 +
 From: Brian Alsop als...@nc.rr.com
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RTTY problem
 To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Message-ID: 49885f61.3090...@nc.rr.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

 Had the same thing happen after installing the new Google Earth today. I 
 couldn't figure out what was changed in the audio pannel. Restoring 
 computer to a state just before the Google Earth install solved the 
 problem. 73 de Brian/K3KO N1IX wrote:

   I am having a problem with receiving RTTY signals. It worked before 
 so I assume it is something I have set incorrectly.
   There is no  display of anything on any of the RTTY applications. No 
 waterfall, nothing at all. I have tried different computers and multiple 
 applications with the same results. I have adjusted the line out item in 
 the config menu to full scale.
   I plugged headphones into the line out jack I can hear the RTTY 
 signal but it seems to be attenuated. Although I don't know how loud it 
 should be.
   BTW: transmit doesn't work at all. That will be the subject of 
 another email.
   Any help would be appreciated.
   
   Dave N1IX
   


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 Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 09:14:18 -0800
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[Elecraft] Firmware bug?

2009-02-04 Thread OE5CSP-Chris

After installing the latest Beta firmware and utility I realized, that the K3
does not pull out more than 85 watt on some bands. The power is set to 100
watt. Did anybody notice that?

73, Chris-OE5CSP
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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Mods and AppNotes page

2009-02-04 Thread Don Wilhelm
Petr,

For the K2, you will find that information on the order page at the 
Elecraft website.
Click on Order in the left sidebar, then click on Spare Parts, Mod 
Kits, and Firmware.
The mod kits in the listing indicate the serial number when the K2 kits 
were updated.
If you purchased a used K2 it may already have some (or all) the mods 
installed.  If that is the case, you may have to download the 
instructions and compare with your K2 to see if it is present.

73,
Don W3FPR

Petr Ourednik wrote:
 Hello,

 sorry if it was discussed already... I am looking for complete
 list of Mods and AppNotes for K2 and K2/100 as I would like to
 make revision of my K2/100 for which mods or appnotes I should
 do. 
 I found nice place for K3 where is possible to download all mods
 and appnotes for K3 but nothing for K2. Did I missed it on web?

 Thank You for help,

 73 - Petr, OK1RP
   

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Re: [Elecraft] ECO for SPOT Control

2009-02-04 Thread John Huffman
As would I.

73 de K1ESE
John

W6NEK wrote:
 Hi Michael,
 That is a meaningful and outstanding suggestion.  I would really like to see 
 Elecraft add it to the List.

 Frank - W6NEK

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 Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 8:54 PM
 Subject: [Elecraft] ECO for SPOT Control


 I would like to suggest an upgrade for the SPOT control function.  As you 
 know, the SPOT function changes the Main VFO's frequency to Beat Frequency 
 a CW signal.  This function is wonderful when used to tune in a received 
 signal within the CWT area.  However, if after sending a CQ, and having 
 someone answer you, you hit the SPOT control, you once again move your Main 
 VFO off frequency. This risks the other party answering your CQ from being 
 able to find you once again.
 My suggestion would be to allow for the SPOT button to function as a RIT 
 only control when the RIT button is engaged.  If the RIT button is NOT 
 engaged, then the Main VFO would move as normal.  OR if the XIT button is 
 engaged, then the SPOT function would also work as it does currently.
 Having the SPOT work as a RIT control when the RIT button is engaged, would 
 make it MUCH easier for a user (contester etc..) to send a CQ, wait for an 
 answer, then align the K3 to the answering parties BFO frequency, without 
 moving the Main VFO frequency. Thus, Making the RIT knob a secondary tool 
 for finding people too off center to capture in the CWT area.
 I would love to see some feedback on this new feature, and ask that it gets 
 implemented in the software if enough people agree with me.  If you don't 
 understand, or need further explanation please let me know.
 Michael Aretsky
 N6MQL

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Re: [Elecraft] ECO for SPOT Control

2009-02-04 Thread Darwin, Keith
I think it is a good idea.  I don't use CWT / auto-spot much and you've
just made me realize my reason.  Once I call CQ and someone answers, I
don't change my TX freq and the auto tune feature does just that.
Instead, I make sure CWT is off and use the spot tone to tune the guy in
with RIT.

The other reason I don't use CWT is that I don't like it taking part of
my S-meter away.  If CWT used the VFO-B area to show it's tuning display
that would be great.  But then I'd want to separate CWT and SPOT so I
could turn on the CWT display but have the SPOT button still just sound
the side tone rather than engaging auto-tune.

Ah, too many options and possibilities.

- Keith N1AS -
- K3 711 - 

 - Original Message -

 My suggestion would be to allow for the SPOT button to function as a 
 RIT only control when the RIT button is engaged.  If the RIT button is

 NOT engaged, then the Main VFO would move as normal.
 Michael Aretsky
 N6MQL

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[Elecraft] Elecraft Web Site - Speed

2009-02-04 Thread Stewart Baker
I am now able to get fast access the Elecraft site.
Back up to Warp Factor 10...
Don't know why this is, must be the snow melting !

73
Stewart G3RXQ
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Re: [Elecraft] ECO for SPOT Control

2009-02-04 Thread Don Wilhelm
Michael,

Operating modes do differ, but --
I would never even think to using Auto-Spot after I called CQ or after I 
established a QSO simply because I know it would change my transmit 
frequency. In other words, I would not tap the SPOT button after a CQ, 
but I still use the CWT indicator visually.
If I must tune to center the replying station in the CWT display, that 
is fine, one can use RIT, or as I prefer, drop into SPLIT operation - 
just tap AB, then hold AB to get into split and then I can tune the 
station with the VFO A knob without altering my transmit frequency.
I don't see enough added utility in this to add another degree of 
complexity to the user interface.

73,
Don W3FPR

The Smiths wrote:
 I would like to suggest an upgrade for the SPOT control function. As 
 you know, the SPOT function changes the Main VFO's frequency to Beat 
 Frequency a CW signal. This function is wonderful when used to tune 
 in a received signal within the CWT area. However, if after sending a 
 CQ, and having someone answer you, you hit the SPOT control, you once 
 again move your Main VFO off frequency. This risks the other party 
 answering your CQ from being able to find you once again.
 My suggestion would be to allow for the SPOT button to function as a 
 RIT only control when the RIT button is engaged. If the RIT button is 
 NOT engaged, then the Main VFO would move as normal. OR if the XIT 
 button is engaged, then the SPOT function would also work as it does 
 currently.
 Having the SPOT work as a RIT control when the RIT button is engaged, 
 would make it MUCH easier for a user (contester etc..) to send a CQ, 
 wait for an answer, then align the K3 to the answering parties BFO 
 frequency, without moving the Main VFO frequency. Thus, Making the RIT 
 knob a secondary tool for finding people too off center to capture 
 in the CWT area.
 I would love to see some feedback on this new feature, and ask that it 
 gets implemented in the software if enough people agree with me. If 
 you don't understand, or need further explanation please let me know.
 Michael Aretsky
 N6MQL
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Firmware bug?

2009-02-04 Thread Lee Buller

Chris...

Have you checked in a 50 ohm dummy load?  I am not sure what load you are 
using, but I would do that first to see if it is a firmware bug,  I do not see 
that issue on mine and I have the latest load.

Lee - K0WA


In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply.  If you don't 
have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it.  If you can't find 
any Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense.  Is 
Common Sense divine?

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Subject: [Elecraft]  Firmware bug?
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 6:18 AM

After installing the latest Beta firmware and utility I realized, that the K3
does not pull out more than 85 watt on some bands. The power is set to 100
watt. Did anybody notice that?

73, Chris-OE5CSP
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Re: [Elecraft] ECO for SPOT Control

2009-02-04 Thread Brian Alsop
Other problem of course:  How to make it smart enough, in the presence 
of other CW sigs to lock on to the one you want.
More than likely it won't and you'll have to mess around with manual 
controls to fix it's mistake.

A person using a knob can do the job much better than a ton of software.

This problem was major in the days that the other guy drifted outside 
the passband even during a QSO.  That was with 10KHz bandwidth filters 
too.  No problem then with separate RX/TX.   Note:  It was always the 
other guy who drifted.  It was never your RX.

Things have come a long way.  We expect a few Hz stability these days...

73 de Brian/K3KO

Don Wilhelm wrote:

Michael,

Operating modes do differ, but --
I would never even think to using Auto-Spot after I called CQ or after I 
established a QSO simply because I know it would change my transmit 
frequency. In other words, I would not tap the SPOT button after a CQ, 
but I still use the CWT indicator visually.
If I must tune to center the replying station in the CWT display, that 
is fine, one can use RIT, or as I prefer, drop into SPLIT operation - 
just tap AB, then hold AB to get into split and then I can tune the 
station with the VFO A knob without altering my transmit frequency.
I don't see enough added utility in this to add another degree of 
complexity to the user interface.

73,
Don W3FPR

The Smiths wrote:
  

I would like to suggest an upgrade for the SPOT control function. As 
you know, the SPOT function changes the Main VFO's frequency to Beat 
Frequency a CW signal. This function is wonderful when used to tune 
in a received signal within the CWT area. However, if after sending a 
CQ, and having someone answer you, you hit the SPOT control, you once 
again move your Main VFO off frequency. This risks the other party 
answering your CQ from being able to find you once again.
My suggestion would be to allow for the SPOT button to function as a 
RIT only control when the RIT button is engaged. If the RIT button is 
NOT engaged, then the Main VFO would move as normal. OR if the XIT 
button is engaged, then the SPOT function would also work as it does 
currently.
Having the SPOT work as a RIT control when the RIT button is engaged, 
would make it MUCH easier for a user (contester etc..) to send a CQ, 
wait for an answer, then align the K3 to the answering parties BFO 
frequency, without moving the Main VFO frequency. Thus, Making the RIT 
knob a secondary tool for finding people too off center to capture 
in the CWT area.
I would love to see some feedback on this new feature, and ask that it 
gets implemented in the software if enough people agree with me. If 
you don't understand, or need further explanation please let me know.
Michael Aretsky
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Re: [Elecraft] ECO for SPOT Control

2009-02-04 Thread Dave Van Wallaghen
Thanks Don and Ken. I don't know why, but I never thought of using split 
like that - and it makes perfect sense. I liked Michael's suggestion 
because I have done the same thing - I intuitively hit Auto-Spot after 
someone came back to me a little off freq and then panicked because I 
couldn't remember exactly where I started sometimes.

I've used RIT to manually tune in the other station, which isn't bad for 
me since my hearing and tuning is still pretty good, but I do like the 
Auto-Spot feature. Your suggestion still allows for that feature to work 
like a charm - and only three keystrokes!

73,
Dave W8FGU

Don Wilhelm wrote:
 Michael,
 
 Operating modes do differ, but --
 I would never even think to using Auto-Spot after I called CQ or after I 
 established a QSO simply because I know it would change my transmit 
 frequency. In other words, I would not tap the SPOT button after a CQ, 
 but I still use the CWT indicator visually.
 If I must tune to center the replying station in the CWT display, that 
 is fine, one can use RIT, or as I prefer, drop into SPLIT operation - 
 just tap AB, then hold AB to get into split and then I can tune the 
 station with the VFO A knob without altering my transmit frequency.
 I don't see enough added utility in this to add another degree of 
 complexity to the user interface.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
 
 The Smiths wrote:
 I would like to suggest an upgrade for the SPOT control function. As 
 you know, the SPOT function changes the Main VFO's frequency to Beat 
 Frequency a CW signal. This function is wonderful when used to tune 
 in a received signal within the CWT area. However, if after sending a 
 CQ, and having someone answer you, you hit the SPOT control, you once 
 again move your Main VFO off frequency. This risks the other party 
 answering your CQ from being able to find you once again.
 My suggestion would be to allow for the SPOT button to function as a 
 RIT only control when the RIT button is engaged. If the RIT button is 
 NOT engaged, then the Main VFO would move as normal. OR if the XIT 
 button is engaged, then the SPOT function would also work as it does 
 currently.
 Having the SPOT work as a RIT control when the RIT button is engaged, 
 would make it MUCH easier for a user (contester etc..) to send a CQ, 
 wait for an answer, then align the K3 to the answering parties BFO 
 frequency, without moving the Main VFO frequency. Thus, Making the RIT 
 knob a secondary tool for finding people too off center to capture 
 in the CWT area.
 I would love to see some feedback on this new feature, and ask that it 
 gets implemented in the software if enough people agree with me. If 
 you don't understand, or need further explanation please let me know.
 Michael Aretsky
 N6MQL
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY problem

2009-02-04 Thread David Wilburn
If you are plugging into a laptop, make sure the port is set to line 
in.  Mine comes up and asks me, whenever I plug something in.

Dave Wilburn
NM4M

R. Kevin Stover wrote:
 Which program are you using?
 Did this ever work?
 What changes have you made since it worked?
 
 The line out on the K3 is a low level line out and would sound 
 attenuated compared to the level on the speaker/phones jack. You've got 
 the level as high as it will go on the K3, swapped the audio cable for a 
 known good one, time to start looking at the sound card and application 
 settings on the computer.
 
 
 n1...@aol.com wrote:


 I posted this Sunday bust since then I have been having email problems.
 If you responded please send it again.


 I am having a problem with receiving RTTY signals. It 
 worked before so I assume it is something I have set incorrectly.


 There is no? display of any text or even jiberish on any of the RTTY 
 applications. No waterfall, nothing at all. I have tried different computers 
 and 
 multiple applications with the same results. I have adjusted the line out 
 item 
 in the config menu to full scale.  I have replaced the cable between line 
 out and the computer.


 I plugged headphones into the line out jack I can hear the 
 RTTY signal but it seems to be attenuated. Although I don't know how loud it 
 should be. I think it should be louder that it is.



 BTW: transmit doesn't work at all. That will be the 
 subject of another email.


 Any help would be appreciated.


 ?


 Dave N1IX
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Firmware bug?

2009-02-04 Thread Julian, G4ILO



OE5CSP-Chris wrote:
 
 After installing the latest Beta firmware and utility I realized, that the
 K3 does not pull out more than 85 watt on some bands. The power is set to
 100 watt. Did anybody notice that?
 
Have you done the TX Gain calibration on every band (there is a wizard to do
this in the K3 Utility)?

I do notice the power measured by my AV-600 power meter is about 80W on 160m
going up to 90W on 20m and staying at that level right thru 6m. I have
calibrated the K3 at 5W and 50W using a DL1 and DMM which should be pretty
accurate, and I calibrated the AV-600 at the same power levels. Given the
accuracy of most amateur power meters is generally given as no better than
10% of FSD, and the K3 power sensing probably has no better accuracy, I
would say that this is within the limits of measurement error. The
difference between 85W and 100W is not going to be noticeable anyway.

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Re: [Elecraft] ECO for SPOT Control

2009-02-04 Thread Tom, N5GE
On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 23:41:36 -0800, you wrote:

Once you fellows start using split, you won't see a need for this
addition.

In the old days before XCVRS one would call CQ on the desired
frequency and tune the RX to the answering station.  Other than
placing your TX frequency where a DX station is listening, using split
to avoid the situation you describe is the common method.

The reason for RIT and split in the beginning was to help eliminate
the cost of, and desk top space taken by the RX.

Tom, N5GE
http://www.n5ge.com
http://www.swotrc.net 


Hi Michael,
That is a meaningful and outstanding suggestion.  I would really like to see 
Elecraft add it to the List.

Frank - W6NEK

- Original Message - 
From: The Smiths
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 8:54 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] ECO for SPOT Control


I would like to suggest an upgrade for the SPOT control function.  As you 
know, the SPOT function changes the Main VFO's frequency to Beat Frequency 
a CW signal.  This function is wonderful when used to tune in a received 
signal within the CWT area.  However, if after sending a CQ, and having 
someone answer you, you hit the SPOT control, you once again move your Main 
VFO off frequency. This risks the other party answering your CQ from being 
able to find you once again.
My suggestion would be to allow for the SPOT button to function as a RIT 
only control when the RIT button is engaged.  If the RIT button is NOT 
engaged, then the Main VFO would move as normal.  OR if the XIT button is 
engaged, then the SPOT function would also work as it does currently.
Having the SPOT work as a RIT control when the RIT button is engaged, would 
make it MUCH easier for a user (contester etc..) to send a CQ, wait for an 
answer, then align the K3 to the answering parties BFO frequency, without 
moving the Main VFO frequency. Thus, Making the RIT knob a secondary tool 
for finding people too off center to capture in the CWT area.
I would love to see some feedback on this new feature, and ask that it gets 
implemented in the software if enough people agree with me.  If you don't 
understand, or need further explanation please let me know.
Michael Aretsky
N6MQL

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[Elecraft] K3: Relay noise?

2009-02-04 Thread Steve Ellington
Is there a mechanical relay that follows keying? I've had my K3 for nearly a 
year and didn't notice any relay noise until lately. I know the antenna TR 
is done by pin diodes but I can now hear the faint click of a small relay 
that wasn't there before. I'm using ver. 2.8
Steve Ellington
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[Elecraft] How to un-subscribe??

2009-02-04 Thread Michael Harvey

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 RF knob Broken

2009-02-04 Thread Bill Coleman
Gary NL7Y wrote:

 Has anyone other then me had one of the inter knobs for the RF or AF gain
 break?  
 Ron NA9F

 Had two crack S/N 2324, one ea. inner and outer. Called Elecraft Parts, and
 replacements send no questions. Removing the cracked knobs took too much
 torque on the small set screws. The set screws were too tight at Factory
 assy I believe. I used the small end of the supplied Allen wrenches to just
 tighten, not the long end. So far so good. Will send in defective parts, but
 I believe they were just over-tightened. I checked the rest of the knobs and
 they were not as tight, but reset them anyway.

 Small annoyance on an otherwise excellent product. Thanks Elecraft.

 73 Gary NL7Y
   
Inner knob here - the one on the end /w the smaller diameter shaft.   
Replacement, no questions asked, in a couple days!   Will be sending the 
busted one back for Wayne to use /w the manufacturer.

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Re: [Elecraft] How to un-subscribe??

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Relay noise?

2009-02-04 Thread Don Wilhelm
Steve,

No relay for either keying or T/R switching - it is all electronic.

73,
Don W3FPR

Steve Ellington wrote:
 Is there a mechanical relay that follows keying? I've had my K3 for nearly a 
 year and didn't notice any relay noise until lately. I know the antenna TR 
 is done by pin diodes but I can now hear the faint click of a small relay 
 that wasn't there before. I'm using ver. 2.8
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Relay noise?

2009-02-04 Thread Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
There's a relay that switches with mode change, CW/Data to SSB/AM.

73, doug

   X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined
   Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 10:29:07 -0500
   From: Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com

   Steve,

   No relay for either keying or T/R switching - it is all electronic.

   73,
   Don W3FPR

   Steve Ellington wrote:
Is there a mechanical relay that follows keying? I've had my K3 for nearly 
a 
year and didn't notice any relay noise until lately. I know the antenna TR 
is done by pin diodes but I can now hear the faint click of a small relay 
that wasn't there before. I'm using ver. 2.8
Steve Ellington
n...@carolina.rr.com 
  
   
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Re: [Elecraft] How to un-subscribe??

2009-02-04 Thread John W2XS

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Re: [Elecraft] Firmware bug?

2009-02-04 Thread Jim
Same here. No issue with 2.80.

 

 

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Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 9:16 AM
To: OE5CSP-Chris; Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Firmware bug?

 



Chris...

Have you checked in a 50 ohm dummy load?  I am not sure what load you are
using, but I would do that first to see if it is a firmware bug,  I do not
see that issue on mine and I have the latest load.

Lee - K0WA


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don't have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it. If you can't
find any Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense.
Is Common Sense divine?

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From: OE5CSP-Chris hans-christ...@gmx.at
Subject: [Elecraft] Firmware bug?
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 6:18 AM

After installing the latest Beta firmware and utility I realized, that the
K3


does not pull out more than 85 watt on some bands. The power is set to 100


watt. Did anybody notice that?


  


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Re: [Elecraft] ECO for Headphone MIX

2009-02-04 Thread Carl Clawson

 I would like to suggest that there be an additional menu choice
 (either in the Headphone/speakers or AFX menu) that allows for
 a MIX mode.  This mode would allow for 100% Main receiver in
 the left ear, WITH 50% Sub receiver in the left ear as well.
 And 100% Sub receiver in the right ear, WITH 50% Main receiver
 in the right ear.

And while we're on the subject of audio balance, how about an option
enabling the Sub volume control to act as a left/right balance when not
using the sub-receiver? I like different volume levels left and right
because one of my ears is worse than the other. A lot of headsets have
individual volume controls, but many nice ones do not.

73 and thanks for listening
Carl WS7L
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Re: [Elecraft] ECO for SPOT Control

2009-02-04 Thread Jim Garland
 
 Once you fellows start using split, you won't see a need for this
 addition.
 
 In the old days before XCVRS one would call CQ on the desired
 frequency and tune the RX to the answering station.  Other than
 placing your TX frequency where a DX station is listening, using split
 to avoid the situation you describe is the common method.
 
 The reason for RIT and split in the beginning was to help eliminate
 the cost of, and desk top space taken by the RX.
 
 Tom, N5GE

I often use the split mode on my K3, but also the RIT. In terms of sheer
convenience, for casual CW contacts I prefer to use the RIT. Often my
subreceiver is on another part of the band, often in a different mode, and
I'd rather not change it.  

The proposed autospot feature does not add any operating complexity to the
K3 and entails nothing extra to remember or learn. With this proposed
feature, when autospot it enabled, AND the RIT is on, it would merely tweak
the receiver frequency but leave the transmit frequency unchanged. I think
it would be very handy.  The benefit of the autospot feature is that it
enables one to dial in the bandwidth without having the desired signal drop
off the filter edge. To me, that is a very valuable feature.

73,

Jim W8ZR

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Re: [Elecraft] Firmware bug?

2009-02-04 Thread OE5CSP-Chris



OE5CSP-Chris wrote:
 
 After installing the latest Beta firmware and utility I realized, that the
 K3 does not pull out more than 85 watt on some bands. The power is set to
 100 watt. Did anybody notice that?
 
 73, Chris-OE5CSP
 

My dummy load seems to be ok, but I can´t do the tx calibration with the K3
utility.Maybe I should reloud the Utility again...The K3 does not pull out
more than 85 watt, even if I set it to 120 watt. I did not have this problem
before.

Chris,OE5CSP
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[Elecraft] For Sale Complete K2 QRP Station

2009-02-04 Thread rcerkon
K2 SN4740, including:
o  KAT2 Ant Tuner
o  KNB2 Noise Blanker

Superantennas PW1, breifcase Portable whip antenna 40-10m coverage

Vibroplex Code Warrior Junior

Kenwood HS6 communication headphones

Radio Shack 13.8v/3amp Linear Power Supply, MN 22-504

Elecraft DL1 20W Dummy Load

Elecraft XG1 Signal Generator

Misc interconnect cables, HB Noise generator, maybe a few of surprises :-)

All items in excellent condition, used very little.

$600 Shipped/Insured CONUS

Haven't been on the air for 2 or more years, probably won't be. Time
to find a home for this stuff were it can be used.
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Re: [Elecraft] Firmware bug-fixed!

2009-02-04 Thread OE5CSP-Chris



After installing the latest Beta firmware and utility I realized, that the
K3 does not pull out more than 85 watt on some bands. The power is set to
100 watt. Did anybody notice that?

73, Chris-OE5CSP


Guys,

Thanks for your comments.I reloaded the K3 utility and latest firmware and
everything is ok now.

73, Chris-OE5CSP
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[Elecraft] OT: Oak Hills WM-2 wattmeter FS / Trade

2009-02-04 Thread Ken Kopp
I have an Oak Hills WM-2 QRP wattmeter for sale.  Please
contact off-reflector for details.

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
elecraftcov...@rfwave.net

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[Elecraft] newbie

2009-02-04 Thread greenacres113
My K3 # 2626 arrived yesterday. Be a while before the change over. At 63 a new 
era begins for me

k9il
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Re: [Elecraft] newbie

2009-02-04 Thread Gary NL7Y



My K3 # 2626 arrived yesterday. Be a while before the change over. At 63 a
new era begins for me

k9il

Hello Robert K9Il, welcome to the fun world of Elecraft and the K3. I'm sure
you'll enjoy yours as much as I have mine.

I turn 63 next week, and am looking forward to working K5D starting the day
after on 160M (or ???) if I get lucky. CU in the pileup!

73 Gary NL7Y


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[Elecraft] k3 volume knob

2009-02-04 Thread ik8ozz
Also i have the same problem with my k3, i send an e-mail to Elecraft and 
,may be , arrived very soon .
For the moment i don't know if is on garantie or not...
Tell you vy soon.
Best ragrds from Luigi,ik8ozz.

K3/100 s/n 1758 

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Re: [Elecraft] ECO for SPOT Control

2009-02-04 Thread Joe Planisky
H.   It's an interesting concept, but I don't like the idea of  
adding yet another function to the SPOT button.  In general, I dislike  
modal functions.  That is, functions that work differently depending  
on the setting of some other control.  I know they're unavoidable in  
some cases, but I like to keep them to a minimum.

Tapping the SPOT button is already overloaded with two different  
functions. What happens when you tap SPOT depends on the state of  
CWT.  If CWT is off, SPOT just turns on the sidetone. If CWT is on, it  
adjusts the TX  RX frequency to near zero-beat with a received  
signal.  Adding a link to RIT now makes for 4 possible states: CWT  
off, RIT off; CWT on, RIT off; CWT off, RIT on; CWT on, RIT on.

Knowing, me, I'd have RIT on but set to 0.0, hit SPOT, and then wonder  
why the guy whose CQ I just answered says I'm off frequency :-)

73
--
Joe KB8AP

On Feb 3, 2009, at 8:54 PM, The Smiths wrote:


 I would like to suggest an upgrade for the SPOT control function.

snip

 My suggestion would be to allow for the SPOT button to function as a  
 RIT only control when the RIT button is engaged.  If the RIT button  
 is NOT engaged, then the Main VFO would move as normal.

snip

 Michael AretskyN6MQL
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Relay noise?

2009-02-04 Thread Jessie Oberreuter

  My K3 makes a very quiet relay like keying noise as well.  Been 
meaning to chase it down, but haven't had the time.  There was once a 
suggestion that it could be a protection circuit due to high SWR, but 
there's no reason why that should be happening.  I haven't tried 
disconnecting the speaker just to make sure it isn't an electronic 
artifact, but it sure sounds mechanical, and occurs even with headphones, 
volume, and power turned all the way down.



On Wed, 4 Feb 2009, Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604 wrote:

 There's a relay that switches with mode change, CW/Data to SSB/AM.

 73, doug

   X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined
   Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 10:29:07 -0500
   From: Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com

   Steve,

   No relay for either keying or T/R switching - it is all electronic.

   73,
   Don W3FPR

   Steve Ellington wrote:
Is there a mechanical relay that follows keying? I've had my K3 for 
 nearly a
year and didn't notice any relay noise until lately. I know the antenna TR
is done by pin diodes but I can now hear the faint click of a small relay
that wasn't there before. I'm using ver. 2.8
Steve Ellington
n...@carolina.rr.com
   
   
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 - Battery needs CPR

2009-02-04 Thread Ingo Meyer, DK3RED
Hello Tom,

I know I be late but hope not too late.

 The problem was that I went QRT for a year or so and left the battery 
 unattended and now it won't hold a charge.
...
 Any ideas would be appreciated.

Maybe your battery has a chance, but without guarantee. You say the battery 
don't hold the 
charge. So my question. Is there a significant charge current (minimum 100 mA) 
over some 
hours, if you put the SLA on 13.8 volts? If you now say yes, put the SLA in 
the garbage, 
like also Don sayed. But if you say no, it's possible to bring the SLA back 
to life.

In this case it's looks like the battery has a sulfat layer on the lead 
packages. This 
caused in a high internal resistance. You can measure after a charge 12 volt to 
13.8 volts 
with a DMM, but the batterie don't hold the charge. The reason for it is, that 
the battery 
has not sucked any significant current during the charge process.

So try the following procedure: Put the SLA on a charger, which gives 13.8 
volts AND a 
which has a current limiter of 100 mA or 200 mA or so. For controlling put a 
ampere meter 
in row with the battery. You will see for days or sometimes for 1 or 2 weeks no 
significant current flow. But if the sulfate layer at last is broken, the 
current flow 
jumps up. You know now, why the charger needs a limiter. After the charge 
procedure is 
solved, discharge the SLA again controlled until 10.5 volts and repeat the 
charge process 
with normal conditions.

I repeat it: There is no guarantee, but hope.
-- 
73/72 de Ingo, DK3RED - Don't forget: the fun is the power!
www.qrp4fun.de - dk3...@qrp4fun.de

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[Elecraft] Items left FOR SALE

2009-02-04 Thread
Thanks for all the inquiries involving my elecraft stuff for sale. There was quite a response, but every one wanted the same items.I have left for SALE: New unbilt kit KPA100 100PA option for the K2; comes with KPA100UPKT upgrade kit and KPA100SHLDKT-KPA100 Shield kit $390.00This is the latest version of the kit.New T1-PT817C-R Remote Control Adaptor for the FT817. Controls the Elecraft T1-K ATU remotely from the FT817 Transceiver. $50:00I will pay shipping charges with confirmation receipt to destination withing the US only. Payment details on request via email.tnxStephen
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Re: [Elecraft] For Sale Complete K2 QRP Station

2009-02-04 Thread rcerkon
The K2 package is sold and will soon be on it's way to a new home.
Thanks everybody for you interest in these items.

Got a number of emails from some old acquaintances that just wanted to
say hi--wasn't expecting that, it was nice, thank you.

HR was a good ride, especially the QRP part. Thanks all for the QSOs
and camaraderie, now it is time to move on.

Goodbye, farewell, good luck and health to you all.

--
73, Rod Ai7NN, CL --ladies and gentlemen Ai7NN has left the airwaves--

On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 8:55 AM,  rcer...@gmail.com wrote:
 K2 SN4740, including:
 o  KAT2 Ant Tuner
 o  KNB2 Noise Blanker
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Relay noise?

2009-02-04 Thread Steve Ellington
AH HA...See...I told you so. I bet they all do it and you guys are just not
listening. Where's the Elecraft experts? They should know if a relay is
supposed to be operational when keying. Maybe I'm just sensitive to such
sounds. I've had dozens of people try to tell me that TenTec rigs don't have
relays but I can hear them from 3 ft. away!
Steve Ellington
n...@carolina.rr.com
- Original Message - 
From: Jessie Oberreuter joberreu-elecr...@moselle.com
To: Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604 fa...@panix.com
Cc: Elecraft mail list Elecraft@mailman.qth.net; d...@w3fpr.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: Relay noise?



  My K3 makes a very quiet relay like keying noise as well.  Been
 meaning to chase it down, but haven't had the time.  There was once a
 suggestion that it could be a protection circuit due to high SWR, but
 there's no reason why that should be happening.  I haven't tried
 disconnecting the speaker just to make sure it isn't an electronic
 artifact, but it sure sounds mechanical, and occurs even with headphones,
 volume, and power turned all the way down.



 On Wed, 4 Feb 2009, Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604 wrote:

 There's a relay that switches with mode change, CW/Data to SSB/AM.

 73, doug

   X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined
   Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 10:29:07 -0500
   From: Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com

   Steve,

   No relay for either keying or T/R switching - it is all electronic.

   73,
   Don W3FPR

   Steve Ellington wrote:
Is there a mechanical relay that follows keying? I've had my K3 for 
 nearly a
year and didn't notice any relay noise until lately. I know the 
 antenna TR
is done by pin diodes but I can now hear the faint click of a small 
 relay
that wasn't there before. I'm using ver. 2.8
Steve Ellington
n...@carolina.rr.com
   
   
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Relay noise?

2009-02-04 Thread Iain MacDonnell - N6ML

I definitely noticed a click on key/unkey a few days ago, but I can't
reproduce it now. It is possible that I was doing something moronic
like trying to transmit with no antenna connected at the time (enforcing
the SWR protection theory) - I don't remember - but I do remember that
it was a new click that I hadn't noticed before. I'll let you know if I
find it again...

 ~Iain / N6ML



Steve Ellington wrote:
 AH HA...See...I told you so. I bet they all do it and you guys are just not
 listening. Where's the Elecraft experts? They should know if a relay is
 supposed to be operational when keying. Maybe I'm just sensitive to such
 sounds. I've had dozens of people try to tell me that TenTec rigs don't have
 relays but I can hear them from 3 ft. away!
 Steve Ellington
 n...@carolina.rr.com
 - Original Message - 
 From: Jessie Oberreuter joberreu-elecr...@moselle.com
 To: Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604 fa...@panix.com
 Cc: Elecraft mail list Elecraft@mailman.qth.net; d...@w3fpr.com
 Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 3:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: Relay noise?
 
 
  My K3 makes a very quiet relay like keying noise as well.  Been
 meaning to chase it down, but haven't had the time.  There was once a
 suggestion that it could be a protection circuit due to high SWR, but
 there's no reason why that should be happening.  I haven't tried
 disconnecting the speaker just to make sure it isn't an electronic
 artifact, but it sure sounds mechanical, and occurs even with headphones,
 volume, and power turned all the way down.



 On Wed, 4 Feb 2009, Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604 wrote:

 There's a relay that switches with mode change, CW/Data to SSB/AM.

 73, doug

   X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined
   Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 10:29:07 -0500
   From: Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com

   Steve,

   No relay for either keying or T/R switching - it is all electronic.

   73,
   Don W3FPR

   Steve Ellington wrote:
Is there a mechanical relay that follows keying? I've had my K3 for 
 nearly a
year and didn't notice any relay noise until lately. I know the 
 antenna TR
is done by pin diodes but I can now hear the faint click of a small 
 relay
that wasn't there before. I'm using ver. 2.8
Steve Ellington
n...@carolina.rr.com
   
   
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[Elecraft] K3 orders now being built immediately to order

2009-02-04 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
We have just updated our shipping status page:

We have now caught up with our K3 backlog. (whew!)

New K3s are custom built or kitted for each new order.  :-)

* New K3 kit orders are shipped 2-5 days after the order is received.

* New K3-F (factory assembled) orders are are custom built to order with 
your specific options and will ship 5-10 days (or less) after the order 
is received.

IMPORTANT: K3 internet orders receive an automatic confirmation email. 
Since new K3 orders are put immediately into our production flow, 
additional reconfirmation emails will not be sent.

If your K3 was backlogged and you have not received a follow up email, 
please contact us.  (ka...@elecraft.com)

73, Eric  WA6HHQ

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Relay noise?

2009-02-04 Thread Grant Youngman
This could be a new generation of firmware update technology  --  
adding an actual relay  :-)

Grant/NQ5T


On Feb 4, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Steve Ellington wrote:

 AH HA...See...I told you so. I bet they all do it and you guys are  
 just not
 listening. Where's the Elecraft experts? T
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Relay noise?

2009-02-04 Thread Joe Planisky
My K3 also makes a clicking sound with keying, but it's extremely  
faint; I have to put my ear in physical contact with the rig to hear  
it.  That said, I don't think it's a relay.  I suspect it's current  
going through an inductor or transformer causing the windings to move.

73
--
Joe



On Feb 4, 2009, at 2:21 PM, Steve Ellington wrote:

 AH HA...See...I told you so. I bet they all do it and you guys are  
 just not
 listening. Where's the Elecraft experts? They should know if a relay  
 is
 supposed to be operational when keying. Maybe I'm just sensitive to  
 such
 sounds. I've had dozens of people try to tell me that TenTec rigs  
 don't have
 relays but I can hear them from 3 ft. away!
 Steve Ellington
 n...@carolina.rr.com
 - Original Message -
 From: Jessie Oberreuter joberreu-elecr...@moselle.com
 To: Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604 fa...@panix.com
 Cc: Elecraft mail list Elecraft@mailman.qth.net; d...@w3fpr.com
 Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 3:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: Relay noise?



 My K3 makes a very quiet relay like keying noise as well.  Been
 meaning to chase it down, but haven't had the time.  There was once a
 suggestion that it could be a protection circuit due to high SWR, but
 there's no reason why that should be happening.  I haven't tried
 disconnecting the speaker just to make sure it isn't an electronic
 artifact, but it sure sounds mechanical, and occurs even with  
 headphones,
 volume, and power turned all the way down.



 On Wed, 4 Feb 2009, Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604 wrote:

 There's a relay that switches with mode change, CW/Data to SSB/AM.

 73, doug

  X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined
  Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 10:29:07 -0500
  From: Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com

  Steve,

  No relay for either keying or T/R switching - it is all electronic.

  73,
  Don W3FPR

  Steve Ellington wrote:
 Is there a mechanical relay that follows keying? I've had my K3 for
 nearly a
 year and didn't notice any relay noise until lately. I know the
 antenna TR
 is done by pin diodes but I can now hear the faint click of a small
 relay
 that wasn't there before. I'm using ver. 2.8
 Steve Ellington
 n...@carolina.rr.com


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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Relay noise?

2009-02-04 Thread wayne burdick
It may be the delta in supply voltage on keydown slightly stimulating 
one or more relay coils. The DC shift could move the contacts a tiny 
bit. Or it might be an extremely small timing window, associated with 
T/R switching, that puts a little glitch on a relay control line. 
Either way it's nowhere near enough to change the state of a relay.

Nothing to worry about; in fact it might be therapeutic. But I'll 
listen for it myself.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

  My K3 makes a very quiet relay-like keying noise

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 orders now being built immediately to order

2009-02-04 Thread Dave Van Wallaghen
Congrats to all of you. I'm sure this was a great milestone to hit. Wow - what 
a run.

Have a sip of bubbly for me ;-)

73,
Dave W8FGU

--Original Message--
From: Eric Swartz
Sender: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
To: Elecraft List
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 orders now being built immediately to order
Sent: Feb 4, 2009 5:50 PM

We have just updated our shipping status page:

We have now caught up with our K3 backlog. (whew!)

New K3s are custom built or kitted for each new order.  :-)

* New K3 kit orders are shipped 2-5 days after the order is received.

* New K3-F (factory assembled) orders are are custom built to order with 
your specific options and will ship 5-10 days (or less) after the order 
is received.

IMPORTANT: K3 internet orders receive an automatic confirmation email. 
Since new K3 orders are put immediately into our production flow, 
additional reconfirmation emails will not be sent.

If your K3 was backlogged and you have not received a follow up email, 
please contact us.  (ka...@elecraft.com)

73, Eric  WA6HHQ

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[Elecraft] OT: Oak Hills WM-2 SOLD

2009-02-04 Thread Ken Kopp
My thanks to all those who responded to the posting
about the WM-2.  It has been sold.

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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[Elecraft] K3 orders now being built immediately to order

2009-02-04 Thread Ken Kopp
Congratulations!!

Take a day off and savor the milestone!

73! Ken  Rose
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[Elecraft] K3/ACLog interface failure

2009-02-04 Thread W3CP
I hope an ACLog user out there can give me a clue as to my trouble.
As a start the following is my description as sent to N5FJP(ACLog author).
...
There has been no success in interfacing my Elecraft K3 with my PC (XP OS)
when using your general logging program. A serial port is used with RS232
connectors. In the interface setup Elecraft was selected and all the other
blanks filled in as per the K3 manual. The ACLog test is never passed and I 
have
gone through the setup many times to be sure things have been entered
correctly.  I don't know what else to do and would appreciate your
suggestions.

As some added information. I used WriteLog in the recent CQ 160 Contest and
it interfaced with the K3 OK.  In the past my Yaesu FT1000MP Mark V
interfaced with your program just fine.
..
And this is the reply:

Hi Jim,

Thanks for your e-mail.? I don't have a K3 here so I'm not going to have any
specific advice on the settings.? Please feel free to post your question on
the N3FJP_Software_Users group and see is someone with a K3 can help.


73, Scott
N3FJP
http://www.n3fjp.com/
..

And it's certainly possible I'm doing something stupid; so I surely would
appreciate any suggested solutions to my problem.

My reasons for using ACLog for general logging were it is easy to install,
the stuff provided that I'm not interested in can be hidden, it can be used
as a log for special contests or parties such as QCWA,SOWP,PVRC.

73,  Jim  w3cp

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Re: [Elecraft] ELECRAFT KEY FOR SALE SAVE $ 100.00!!!

2009-02-04 Thread n1ix1

 


 I know what James is dealing with. I had a stroke a few years ago and lost the 
fine motor skills in my right hand. I was a very good CW operator in fact 
people used to ask if I was using a keyboard. I could cruise along at 40WPM 
without a problem, Now I am.using a keyboard. I even had to have a friend 
program the memories in my K3.  I was very depressed at first but now I have 
come to the realization that it is just part of life and I am lucky to have no 
other deficits. I have tried left handed, right handed, left foot etc.  
keyboard is the only salvation.

Dave N1IX

 


 

-Original Message-
From: dyarnes w7...@cox.net
To: james scott w...@hotmail.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 9:34 am
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ELECRAFT KEY FOR SALE SAVE $ 100.00!!!
















James,


 


I am so sorry to hear about you hand problem.  I'm 
sure this has been a terrible thing to deal with.  


 


I don't know your full situation, but may I be so bold as 
to suggest that perhaps you try learning to send with your other hand?  
I've often thought about doing that myself, but never followed through--at 
least 
not yet.  I'm a leftie, and in a right handed world there are often things 
that just don't work very well using your left hand.  For example, in my 
work I had a need to run an adding machine, and those don't lend themselves to 
a 
left handed=2
0user.  So, I learned, and fairly quickly, to do it with my 
right hand.  


 


I suspect, in your situation, you will be forced to learn 
some things with your other hand, and using a paddle might be a good therapy to 
develop coordination in that opposite hand.  If you are being forced to use 
your left hand now (I'm assuming you were right-handed), I can assure you that 
sending with the left hand--even without changing the paddle configuration--is 
very doable.  It would certainly seem frustrating at first, but I bet you 
could do it, and very succesfully. There might even be 
very significant side benefits in helping you deal with other tasks.  
 


 


I hope this doesn't sound insensitive to your 
situation.  I only mean to make this suggestion with the best of 
intentions.  


 


Dave W7AQK


 


 



  
- Original Message - 

  
From: 
  james scott 


  
To: AK3 

  
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 8:08 
  PM

  
Subject: [Elecraft] ELECRAFT KEY FOR SALE 
  SAVE $ 100.00!!!

  


Due to problems with a partial hand amputation, I must sell my 
  keys.  I am now forced to use a keyboard.  I have Elecraft Hex Key # 
  E 0355 for sale.  I am including a first class, heavy duty cord and 
  plug.  NONE is supplied when sold new.  Condition is excellent with 
  original box.  Price is $ 135.00 and
 I'll pay the shipping in 
  the USA . Outside US, additional funds required. Payment via U.S. 
  Postal Money order or Paypal is preferred.  Save close to $ 
  100.00 over new!
 
Contact w...@hotmail.com for 
  details.
 

  
WK3N NEVER SLEEPS ! Quote from Martti Lane, OH2BH. ( Proof available 
  for SASE to WK3N)




  


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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Relay noise?

2009-02-04 Thread Tony Morgan
No noise here at all, even putting my ear to the radio :-)

73,

Tony W7GO

wayne burdick wrote:
 It may be the delta in supply voltage on keydown slightly stimulating 
 one or more relay coils. The DC shift could move the contacts a tiny 
 bit. Or it might be an extremely small timing window, associated with 
 T/R switching, that puts a little glitch on a relay control line. 
 Either way it's nowhere near enough to change the state of a relay.

 Nothing to worry about; in fact it might be therapeutic. But I'll 
 listen for it myself.

 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR

   
  My K3 makes a very quiet relay-like keying noise
 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 orders now being built immediately to order

2009-02-04 Thread Jeff Wandling W7BRS

And coincidentally, a large monolith was reported on the surface of the 
moon by NASA.

 [K3 orders are in real-time]

;)

-jeff

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Relay noise?

2009-02-04 Thread Steve Ellington
The relay making the noise sounds like it's on the rear-top side of the K3. 
I doubt if it's pwr sup delta since I can disable vox which results in very 
little current draw but can still hear it. I can slowly close the straight 
key and hear the relay contats close then open the key and hear them open 
just like you would expect any relay to act. Interestingly, pushing the XMIT 
button does not activate the relay and stranger still, while the XMIT button 
is activated, keying the rig does not activate that relay however it 
transmitts normally. Also I doubt if a relay grunt because I can hear the 
mechanical clank fairly well.
73 N4LQ
Steve Ellington
n...@carolina.rr.com
- Original Message - 
From: wayne burdick n...@elecraft.com
To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: Relay noise?


 It may be the delta in supply voltage on keydown slightly stimulating
 one or more relay coils. The DC shift could move the contacts a tiny
 bit. Or it might be an extremely small timing window, associated with
 T/R switching, that puts a little glitch on a relay control line.
 Either way it's nowhere near enough to change the state of a relay.

 Nothing to worry about; in fact it might be therapeutic. But I'll
 listen for it myself.

 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR

  My K3 makes a very quiet relay-like keying noise

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 orders now being built immediately to order

2009-02-04 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
-Original Message-

And coincidentally, a large monolith was reported on the surface of the 
moon by NASA.

 [K3 orders are in real-time]

;)

-jeff


And when I peeked inside my K3 it was full of stars...

Ron AC7AC

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[Elecraft] K3 In California, day off

2009-02-04 Thread wa6riv
Take every other Friday off.   Ted
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/ACLog interface failure

2009-02-04 Thread John W2XS


I hope an ACLog user out there can give me a clue as to my trouble.
...

My set up works fine, but I am using the KUSB cable that connects the K3 to
the USB port on my XP PC.  Here are my AC Log settings in the Settings, Rig
Interface menu:
Rig = Elecraft
Comm port = 4
Baud Rate = 4.8k
8 data bits
2 stop bits
Connection Power = None
Polling rate = 500 ms
Mode by: Rig

I too recommend the N3FJP AC Log and contest logging programs as they are
excellent, fun, and inexpensive.

Good luck.  John W2XS
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[Elecraft] Key Clicks? Maybe, Maybe not.

2009-02-04 Thread Gary Smith
I have an interesting thing to figure out...

I have a K3 and my amp is a TenTec Titan 425.

I was CQing DX on 160 CW today using semi break-in and a fellow came 
by and said I was generating key clicks. He came back and asked me to 
QSY to SSB and I looked for him but didn't find him.

I went up in the band a bit to a local net with strong signals and 
asked if they'd listen to my signal for clicks. I sent CW and the 
answer came back my signal was fine, no issues. A KP4 said I had no 
clicks. 

So I went to the DX cluster to see what was on  there was a note 
from the fellow who asked me to QSY telling me where to meet him 
posted 20 minutes earlier. Not reaching him I sent him an email and 
he returned with a nice note saying the following when I said I don't 
have any key clicks:


Hi Gary yes you do but it may be that you don't have enough delay in 
the amp there are a number of guys on the TB chat the heard it ..it 
only occurs on the  dashes  but at least 5 others heard in including 
a couple very knowledgeable guys that where the delay idea came 
from.


I called Elecraft tech for suggestions and the only thing we came up 
with was to change the Tx delay from 008 to something higher..

Before I do that, I wonder if there's any other ideas from the group 
as to what might be an issue. To recap and expand: I was using semi 
break in and sending around 22WPM using the memory keyer in the K3. 
As the it was semi-break-in, there was no relay on the amp that was 
being switched on or off in-between characters or even in-between 
words.

The Titan amp is a QSK amp so it has no issue with fast relay turn-
around times. When I transmit there are no apparent issues with 
feedback getting into the K3, no relay sounds from overload etc. I 
was transmitting with 45W into the Titan. The fellow said it was on 
the dashes that there are the clicks.

Ideas?

Thanks,
Gary
KA1J
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/ACLog interface failure

2009-02-04 Thread NZ0T

Mine works fine too with different settings using a straight thru cable to
the RS232 port on an old HP.
Rig = Elecraft
Comm port = 1
Baud Rate = 4.8k
8 data bits
1 stop bits
Connection Power = RTS
Polling rate = 2 sec
Mode by: Rig

73,

Bill NZ0T
 



W3CP wrote:
 
 I hope an ACLog user out there can give me a clue as to my trouble.
 ...
 
 My set up works fine, but I am using the KUSB cable that connects the K3
 to the USB port on my XP PC.  Here are my AC Log settings in the Settings,
 Rig Interface menu:
 Rig = Elecraft
 Comm port = 4
 Baud Rate = 4.8k
 8 data bits
 2 stop bits
 Connection Power = None
 Polling rate = 500 ms
 Mode by: Rig
 
 I too recommend the N3FJP AC Log and contest logging programs as they are
 excellent, fun, and inexpensive.
 
 Good luck.  John W2XS
 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3/ACLog interface failure

2009-02-04 Thread W2XB

Hi Jim,
Just setup aclog with the K3. working great...
Have it set to port #1, Baud rate same as the rig(38.4), polling rate is 500
ms, on select rig I have elecraft and under that I have freq checked...

Don...w2xb




W3CP wrote:
 
 I hope an ACLog user out there can give me a clue as to my trouble.
 As a start the following is my description as sent to N5FJP(ACLog author).
 ...
 There has been no success in interfacing my Elecraft K3 with my PC (XP OS)
 when using your general logging program. A serial port is used with RS232
 connectors. In the interface setup Elecraft was selected and all the other
 blanks filled in as per the K3 manual. The ACLog test is never passed and
 I 
 have
 gone through the setup many times to be sure things have been entered
 correctly.  I don't know what else to do and would appreciate your
 suggestions.
 
 As some added information. I used WriteLog in the recent CQ 160 Contest
 and
 it interfaced with the K3 OK.  In the past my Yaesu FT1000MP Mark V
 interfaced with your program just fine.
 ..
 And this is the reply:
 
 Hi Jim,
 
 Thanks for your e-mail.? I don't have a K3 here so I'm not going to have
 any
 specific advice on the settings.? Please feel free to post your question
 on
 the N3FJP_Software_Users group and see is someone with a K3 can help.
 
 
 73, Scott
 N3FJP
 http://www.n3fjp.com/
 ..
 
 And it's certainly possible I'm doing something stupid; so I surely would
 appreciate any suggested solutions to my problem.
 
 My reasons for using ACLog for general logging were it is easy to install,
 the stuff provided that I'm not interested in can be hidden, it can be
 used
 as a log for special contests or parties such as QCWA,SOWP,PVRC.
 
 73,  Jim  w3cp
 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 appears dead after KXB3080 PCB installed... ...Help please!

2009-02-04 Thread Shawn Morrow
Thanks Don.

At one point I actually reseated U1 just to be sure so I think I'm good
there.

Checked out U5 as you suggested.  Here is what I found:

  Pin  Spec  Meas Pin  Spec  Meas
   1   1.390 5   4.44   5.8 
   2   1.390 6   5.57   5.7
   3 0 0   7   4.96   5.2
   4   4.44  5.8 8   5.62   5.8

So this sort of implies that U5 is shot as well, no??  Do these readings
suggest any thing else I should check into??  (These results also got me
looking downstream from pins 14 and 22 on U1 that also read abnormal.)

I am guessing I should request a new U5 too?

Any other insights??

Thanks for all the help.  It is appreciated.

Regards,
Shawn Morrow
   W4SDM


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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 appears dead after KXB3080 PCB installed... ...Help please!

2009-02-04 Thread Don Wilhelm
Shawn,

Yes - the NE612 is quite a hardy device.  Try removing Q9 from the board 
and see if the voltage at U5 pins 1 and 2 go up to the vicinity of 1.4 
volts.  If, no, then remove C8 and measure again - if still not 1.4 
volts, replace U5 - or look for the solder bidge that is shorting the 
product detector input.

73,
Don W3FPR

Shawn Morrow wrote:
 Thanks Don.

 At one point I actually reseated U1 just to be sure so I think I'm good
 there.

 Checked out U5 as you suggested.  Here is what I found:

   Pin  Spec  Meas Pin  Spec  Meas
1   1.390 5   4.44   5.8 
2   1.390 6   5.57   5.7
3 0 0   7   4.96   5.2
4   4.44  5.8 8   5.62   5.8

 So this sort of implies that U5 is shot as well, no??  Do these readings
 suggest any thing else I should check into??  (These results also got me
 looking downstream from pins 14 and 22 on U1 that also read abnormal.)

 I am guessing I should request a new U5 too?

 Any other insights??

 Thanks for all the help.  It is appreciated.

 Regards,
   Shawn Morrow
  W4SDM


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[Elecraft] K3 Clicks - one at 14.084.40 to 14.084.35

2009-02-04 Thread Lee Buller

I hear a relay click when I tune 14.084.40 to 14.084.35.  Sounds like a relay 
to me.  I've always wanted to know what that was all about?

Lee - K0WA


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Re: [Elecraft] Key Clicks? Maybe, Maybe not.

2009-02-04 Thread Gary Smith
Thought I should post this,

Steve  I just QSOed and I was 20 over at his QTH (40 watts drive 
into a TenTec Titan 425) He checked my signal both with full  semi 
break-in and deemed my signal clean.

That was the same finding by the folks I interrupted to give me a 
check-out

It does beg the question of why it would be heard by others. The 
possibility some radios hear clicks because of internal issues with 
their receivers does seem likely.

I am most relieved I have no keying issues... I did not think it was 
the K3 in any way but perhaps something interfacing with the titan 
amp. This particular amp was designed by Dick Frey who used to be the 
principal engineer at Harris corp (Dick has the serial # 1 Titan 425) 
and I know he designs nothing but the best but anything can break 
down.

Time for some of that special cider I make at this time o' the 
year...

Gary
KA1J

P.S. Thanks again Steve.

  Gary
  KA1J
  Gary:
  Wonder what the other guy was using for a rig? The ICOM PRO's tend to 
  make
  every strong cw signal sound clicky.
  Give me a call on 160 and I'll be glad to listen on this K3. I'll be on
  tonight. Name your freq. and time. 73
  Steve Ellington N4LQ
 
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Gary Smith g...@doctorgary.net
  To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 9:00 PM
  Subject: [Elecraft] Key Clicks? Maybe, Maybe not.
 
 
  I have an interesting thing to figure out...
  
   I have a K3 and my amp is a TenTec Titan 425.
  
   I was CQing DX on 160 CW today using semi break-in and a fellow came
   by and said I was generating key clicks. He came back and asked me to
   QSY to SSB and I looked for him but didn't find him.
  
   I went up in the band a bit to a local net with strong signals and
   asked if they'd listen to my signal for clicks. I sent CW and the
   answer came back my signal was fine, no issues. A KP4 said I had no
   clicks.
  
   So I went to the DX cluster to see what was on  there was a note
   from the fellow who asked me to QSY telling me where to meet him
   posted 20 minutes earlier. Not reaching him I sent him an email and
   he returned with a nice note saying the following when I said I don't
   have any key clicks:
  
   
   Hi Gary yes you do but it may be that you don't have enough delay in
   the amp there are a number of guys on the TB chat the heard it ..it
   only occurs on the  dashes  but at least 5 others heard in including
   a couple very knowledgeable guys that where the delay idea came
   from.
   
  
   I called Elecraft tech for suggestions and the only thing we came up
   with was to change the Tx delay from 008 to something higher..
  
   Before I do that, I wonder if there's any other ideas from the group
   as to what might be an issue. To recap and expand: I was using semi
   break in and sending around 22WPM using the memory keyer in the K3.
   As the it was semi-break-in, there was no relay on the amp that was
   being switched on or off in-between characters or even in-between
   words.
  
   The Titan amp is a QSK amp so it has no issue with fast relay turn-
   around times. When I transmit there are no apparent issues with
   feedback getting into the K3, no relay sounds from overload etc. I
   was transmitting with 45W into the Titan. The fellow said it was on
   the dashes that there are the clicks.
  
   Ideas?
  
   Thanks,
   Gary
   KA1J
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Re: [Elecraft] Key Clicks? Maybe, Maybe not.

2009-02-04 Thread Gary NL7Y



Gary Smith wrote:
 
 I have an interesting thing to figure out...
 
 I have a K3 and my amp is a TenTec Titan 425.
 
 I was CQing DX on 160 CW today using semi break-in and a fellow came 
 by and said I was generating key clicks. 
 Ideas?
 
 Thanks,
 Gary
 KA1J
 
 

This may not be the issue in your case, but two thoughts. I recently owned
two radios that heard key clicks on loud CW and static crashes. I'll not
mention the Brand or Model, as no need for bashing here. Seemed to be an
AGC-derived problem that could be reduced with AGC adjustment on that rig,
and by implementing the NB.

Here's a comment regarding AGC pops that may have some bearing. Not the
rig I owned however: http://www.sherweng.com/documents/Dayton2007w.pdf.

73 Gary NL7Y

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Re: [Elecraft] Key Clicks? Maybe, Maybe not.

2009-02-04 Thread Steve Ellington
I'll go ahead an mention it. The ICOM PRO series is well know for hearing 
clicks that aren't there. In fact, the rx in those rigs has the ability to 
convert static into ear splitting clicks. When they first hit the market, 
some owners were saying The DSP filters are so sharp that when you tune off 
frequency, you can't hear the carrier but can still hear the clicks, trying 
to make us believe that the clicks were actually present but just couldn't 
be heard on lesser receivers! I had both the PRO II and PRO III. Both were 
bad for this but otherwise great rigs and I still miss the handy scope 
eventhough I have LP-PAN, which is far superior, I still miss the built in 
bandscope.
So KA1J sounded very clean on this end but maybe not on a PRO.

Steve Ellington
n...@carolina.rr.com
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From: Gary NL7Y pea...@gci.net
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 10:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Key Clicks? Maybe, Maybe not.





 Gary Smith wrote:

 I have an interesting thing to figure out...

 I have a K3 and my amp is a TenTec Titan 425.

 I was CQing DX on 160 CW today using semi break-in and a fellow came
 by and said I was generating key clicks.
 Ideas?

 Thanks,
 Gary
 KA1J



 This may not be the issue in your case, but two thoughts. I recently owned
 two radios that heard key clicks on loud CW and static crashes. I'll not
 mention the Brand or Model, as no need for bashing here. Seemed to be an
 AGC-derived problem that could be reduced with AGC adjustment on that rig,
 and by implementing the NB.

 Here's a comment regarding AGC pops that may have some bearing. Not the
 rig I owned however: http://www.sherweng.com/documents/Dayton2007w.pdf.

 73 Gary NL7Y

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Clicks - one at 14.084.40 to 14.084.35

2009-02-04 Thread wayne burdick
Hi Lee,

It should not do this. Try loading the latest firmware and re-doing VCO 
CAL (on both synthesizers if you have a sub RX, too).

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On Feb 4, 2009, at 7:20 PM, Lee Buller wrote:


 I hear a relay click when I tune 14.084.40 to 14.084.35.  Sounds like 
 a relay to me.  I've always wanted to know what that was all about?

 Lee - K0WA


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[Elecraft] K3 Band Independance

2009-02-04 Thread Brett Howard
If you just want to hear about the feature skip a little bit.  If you
want to be proud you chose Elecraft read on.


This is a breath of fresh air.  Not to long ago, November last year, I
purchased a Blackberry Storm.  The first touchscreen Blackberry device.
The first OS on this thing was completely terrible.  Since then one
official OS has been released which was horribly slow but at least
somewhat stable.  Since then we've been leaked accidentally an update
every 10 to 15 days.  Never are you provided release notes or change
logs of any kind and never do you have any person with the company which
which you can share findings about these leak's (I call them beta's).
Each one of these leaks adds features that you have to just dig to find
on your own and not a single one only added for fixed things from the
previous version with out regressing and breaking something that was
working great in the last version.  

I won't say that we didn't have our fair share of regressions in the
beginning of the K3 but they were minescule in comparison to the Storm
and its invaluable that you have the ability to not only read what was
intended to be changed but you have a DIRECT avenue to speak with the
individuals who can do something about it.  Rather than just post your
problems to a forum and hope that people who can do something about it
come and read it.

So in that I say thank you Elecraft.

SKIP TO HERE IF YOU WANT TO BE SPARED MY SOAP BOX

With this feature I've not got a lot of time testing in so far but I've
tried a few weird things here and there.  Keep in mind I only have one
receiver in my radio.

Upon first loading the new firmware I pressed the band up button.  Both
changed...  Duh set the VFO IND menu item.  After doing that ok lets see
here band up.  Poof VFO A changes B does not.  So far so good.

So I then proceed to tune in a QSO on 20 on VFO A and another on 40 with
the A/B switch.  For me thats A/B, MV, 4 and poof I'm on 40 and tuning
in another station.  Get that station tuned in and then I'm switching
between QSO's with A/B.  All is good thats what we expected.  So I
started up the DVR and did some switching between the two QSO's.  The
DVR seemlessly records the two bands just like it came out the speaker
it can once again.  

So then I tried using the AB function and now both VFO's were on 20
meters.  Shoot I thought I lost what freq that 40 meter QSO was on.  So
I decided to go look for it again.  I simply pressed MV, 4 and the 40
meter band was left alone with my last frequency intact.  My QSO (or
perhaps in the future run frequency) was still right there ready to
go.

Being that you can put different filter settings into VFO A and VFO B
you can use the A/B button as a quick (no hold required) way to step
between two different floating filter presets much like the I/II feature
on the width knob does today but with out the hold time.  Personally I
prefer the NORM way of doing things out of the three but the radio lends
its self to any one of a million operating styles.  

Pressing and holding REV while in split mode is a bit odd hearing all
the relays fire off as you take a quick jump for a listen on the other
side but all works flawlessly.  Both VFO A and B knobs remain true to A
edits the tob area and B edits the bottom area.  Gotta love consistency
in the UI!  One thing I do dislike here is that when pressing REV it
displays the antenna name for a second there...  I'd almost prefer not
to have that pop up when switching bands via the REV button.  It makes
sense to display it when I'm switching bands via other methods as its
stored on a per band basis but when I'm just quickly jumping via the REV
button it just kinda gets in the way.  

I tried beating on things in an attempt to see if the tuner forgot its
brains when switching.  Got on 40 where my antenna is very narrow and
tuned an area with normally bad SWR.  Then got on 30 where my antenna
isn't resonant and tuned that.  Switching between the two results in a
rig immediately ready for TX.

I'll have to do some more getting into this later but as of yet it seems
like a lot of looking for corner cases was done before it was even a pre
beta.

~Brett (KC7OTG)

PS:  I just typed this up as I was trying things so it probably has a
bit of a rambling nature to it.  Was intended to be a quick blurb and I
deeply apologize for not going back through and proofreading and
cleaning this up but I gotta get to the gym before it gets too too
late...  Its 9pm now. :)  I'm gonna need time to cool down and get to
bed so I can stil function at my job tomorrow... :)

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[Elecraft] OT: Changing hands for CW

2009-02-04 Thread Ken Kopp
Here's an experiment for those who either want or
need to change hands to send CW with paddles or
even a bug.

You can turn the paddles or bug around so the paddles
face away from you and then reach over the top and try
sending with the wrong hand.  You're likely to be
surprised at how easy it is, even without practice.

If this meets your need, reverse the dot and dash leads
and you're all set.  I learned this in the pre-computer days 
of contesting in order to send and paper log at the same 
time. (;-)

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Changing hands for CW

2009-02-04 Thread Tom, N5GE
On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 06:10:20 -, you wrote:

Here's an experiment for those who either want or
need to change hands to send CW with paddles or
even a bug.

You can turn the paddles or bug around so the paddles
face away from you and then reach over the top and try
sending with the wrong hand.  You're likely to be
surprised at how easy it is, even without practice.

If this meets your need, reverse the dot and dash leads
and you're all set.  I learned this in the pre-computer days 
of contesting in order to send and paper log at the same 
time. (;-)

[snip]

I knew about that and tried it once, but didn't have the patience to
keep at it.  Now that I'm an old retired geezer, I think I'll try it
again.

Thanks for the reminder!

Tom, N5GE
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 orders now being built immediately to order

2009-02-04 Thread Tom, N5GE
On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 14:50:30 -0800, you wrote:

Below:

We have just updated our shipping status page:

We have now caught up with our K3 backlog. (whew!)

New K3s are custom built or kitted for each new order.  :-)

* New K3 kit orders are shipped 2-5 days after the order is received.

* New K3-F (factory assembled) orders are are custom built to order with 
your specific options and will ship 5-10 days (or less) after the order 
is received.

IMPORTANT: K3 internet orders receive an automatic confirmation email. 
Since new K3 orders are put immediately into our production flow, 
additional reconfirmation emails will not be sent.

If your K3 was backlogged and you have not received a follow up email, 
please contact us.  (ka...@elecraft.com)

73, Eric  WA6HHQ

[snip]

Out here where I live and also on OK where I come from we would say
You done good!

Tom, N5GE
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