Re: [Elecraft] Some Interesting WRTC Statistics

2010-07-22 Thread N1JM

I would too. But the size sure makes it easier for portable operation-one of
the great features of the K3.
John N1JM

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 I don't know but if I had been offered a pair of 9000s or a pair of 7800s,
 delivered to my operating position, I still would have taken my K3s.

 /Rick N6XI

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  I wonder how many K3s would have been there if they were the size and
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[Elecraft] KX1 - 6Watts on 3040

2010-07-22 Thread Jim - W6VAR

I haven't used my KX1 in a while, but I noticed it is running over 6 watts
when connected to a 13.8 volt power supply on 30 and 40 meters. 20 meters is
about 4.2 watts and 80 meters is between 4.7 and 5.0 watts. 

Is this excessive and will it cause damage or a dirty signal? If there is a
problem, where should I begin my search? Internal batteries generate
significanlty lower output:
80M 1.7W; 40M 2.5W; 30M 2.0W; 20M 1.8W

Jim W6VAR
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[Elecraft] SO-239 Connector Selection

2010-07-22 Thread Brett Howard
Ok figured I'd ask here and see if someone had some input on the
differences here.  Hopefully someone has done more design with these
than I...

My application is that I'm looking for connectors to install on some
high end home made band-pass filters.

83-1R;
http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Amphenol-RF/83-1R-SO-239/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMtqi3rrGzC6kucWGwVoNS6TyriIimuNw9A%3d
83-1R-RFX:
http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Amphenol-RF/83-1R-RFX/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMtqi3rrGzC6kqBNVAfbUIcAaUNmqqZ3zpA%3d
83-798:
http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Amphenol-RF/83-798/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMtqi3rrGzC6kptFUq3vT%252bWoMcHyGEmWyaU%3d

The 83-1R is a number I've seen a lot in usage and its the connector I'm
leaning toward.  It is also the cheapest of the 3.  I know they are all
going to be good connectors but is there any benefit to going with the
other two versions?  I believe that the RFX version is a commercial
version of the same thing (at only 20 cents more) but I don't know what
the difference is.  Finally the 83-798 claims to be an SO-239A
connector...  I tried doing a search for SO-239 vs SO-239A and in a
quick gander didn't turn up much...  Any input would be appreciated.

Thanks

~Brett (N7MG)

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Re: [Elecraft] SO-239 Connector Selection

2010-07-22 Thread Bob Naumann
The 83-798A has a Teflon insulator - this is what makes it different.

They're all equivalent for low frequency, low power (200w) work which I
presume your bandpass filters will be.

High-End? What design?



-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Brett Howard
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 8:22 AM
To: elecraft
Subject: [Elecraft] SO-239 Connector Selection

Ok figured I'd ask here and see if someone had some input on the
differences here.  Hopefully someone has done more design with these
than I...

My application is that I'm looking for connectors to install on some
high end home made band-pass filters.

83-1R;
http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Amphenol-RF/83-1R-SO-239/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMt
qi3rrGzC6kucWGwVoNS6TyriIimuNw9A%3d
83-1R-RFX:
http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Amphenol-RF/83-1R-RFX/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMtqi3
rrGzC6kqBNVAfbUIcAaUNmqqZ3zpA%3d
83-798:
http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Amphenol-RF/83-798/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMtqi3rrG
zC6kptFUq3vT%252bWoMcHyGEmWyaU%3d

The 83-1R is a number I've seen a lot in usage and its the connector I'm
leaning toward.  It is also the cheapest of the 3.  I know they are all
going to be good connectors but is there any benefit to going with the
other two versions?  I believe that the RFX version is a commercial
version of the same thing (at only 20 cents more) but I don't know what
the difference is.  Finally the 83-798 claims to be an SO-239A
connector...  I tried doing a search for SO-239 vs SO-239A and in a
quick gander didn't turn up much...  Any input would be appreciated.

Thanks

~Brett (N7MG)

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[Elecraft] Elecraft IOTA Excursion

2010-07-22 Thread Dan Atchison
This weekend, an all Elecraft IOTA contest excursion to NA-067 Core 
Banks, NC will activate N4A during the competition.  K3 and K2 versions 
will be used.  Please give us a shout!!

73,
Dan -- N3ND
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[Elecraft] P3 Manual

2010-07-22 Thread Doug Joyce
GM:  Can anyone at Elecraft provide an update on the availability of the P3 
Manual?  

73,  Doug  VE3MV
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Re: [Elecraft] SO-239 Connector Selection

2010-07-22 Thread Brett Howard
Based on W3NQN's filters and rated for 200W.

Makes sense on the teflon insulator...  I assume that that only makes
the difference when doing higher power?  I do think that whenever I'm
making an antenna that is to have a connector blow torch soldered to a
copper pipe or something I'm going to buy one of those!  Now I just
wonder what the difference in the small price jump delta between RFX
and non RFX is...

~Brett (N7MG)

On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 6:34 AM, Bob Naumann w...@w5ov.com wrote:
 The 83-798A has a Teflon insulator - this is what makes it different.

 They're all equivalent for low frequency, low power (200w) work which I
 presume your bandpass filters will be.

 High-End? What design?



 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Brett Howard
 Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 8:22 AM
 To: elecraft
 Subject: [Elecraft] SO-239 Connector Selection

 Ok figured I'd ask here and see if someone had some input on the
 differences here.  Hopefully someone has done more design with these
 than I...

 My application is that I'm looking for connectors to install on some
 high end home made band-pass filters.

 83-1R;
 http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Amphenol-RF/83-1R-SO-239/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMt
 qi3rrGzC6kucWGwVoNS6TyriIimuNw9A%3d
 83-1R-RFX:
 http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Amphenol-RF/83-1R-RFX/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMtqi3
 rrGzC6kqBNVAfbUIcAaUNmqqZ3zpA%3d
 83-798:
 http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Amphenol-RF/83-798/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMtqi3rrG
 zC6kptFUq3vT%252bWoMcHyGEmWyaU%3d

 The 83-1R is a number I've seen a lot in usage and its the connector I'm
 leaning toward.  It is also the cheapest of the 3.  I know they are all
 going to be good connectors but is there any benefit to going with the
 other two versions?  I believe that the RFX version is a commercial
 version of the same thing (at only 20 cents more) but I don't know what
 the difference is.  Finally the 83-798 claims to be an SO-239A
 connector...  I tried doing a search for SO-239 vs SO-239A and in a
 quick gander didn't turn up much...  Any input would be appreciated.

 Thanks

 ~Brett (N7MG)

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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 - 6Watts on 3040

2010-07-22 Thread Don Wilhelm
Jim,

Lower the power when running on the 13.8 volt supply - 4 watts or a bit 
less.  The components in the PA output circuit will thank you and live a 
longer life.

You can use a slim  flatblade screwdriver and adjust R4 through the hole 
in the bottom of the enclosure (and also through the tuner) - that is 
why it is there.

73,
Don W3FPR

Jim - W6VAR wrote:
 I haven't used my KX1 in a while, but I noticed it is running over 6 watts
 when connected to a 13.8 volt power supply on 30 and 40 meters. 20 meters is
 about 4.2 watts and 80 meters is between 4.7 and 5.0 watts. 

 Is this excessive and will it cause damage or a dirty signal? If there is a
 problem, where should I begin my search? Internal batteries generate
 significanlty lower output:
 80M 1.7W; 40M 2.5W; 30M 2.0W; 20M 1.8W

 Jim W6VAR
   
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[Elecraft] OT: SO-239 Connector Selection

2010-07-22 Thread Ken Kopp

A word of caution about SO-239 / PL-259's ...

In some connector applications ... particularly power
dividers and other applications that are impedance-
conscious ... SO-239 / PL-259 connectors are not 
suitable.

They're -not- 50-ohm connectors.  This is why one usually 
sees Type-N connectors used in these applications.  They 
-are-, by definition, 50-ohm connectors.  I learned this the 
hard way some years ago when I built and sold VHF and 
UHF NBS Yagis with multi-port power dividers.

This may not be an issue with Brett's filters, but I'd stay
with N's or BNC's.  They're also, by definition, 50-ohm
connectors, BTW.   I've specified BNC's for all my ICE
filters, and have them on my K3, watt meters, etc.

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 - 6Watts on 3040

2010-07-22 Thread Michael Babineau
Jim :

I made the documented power mod to my KX1 as I was getting too little power 
out, but then I 
had a similar experience to yours when running off of a power supply or a fully 
charged SLA battery so 
I built a poor mans voltage regulator that I can put in series with my power 
cable when powering
the rig from an external source. All I did was to put a couple of diodes in 
series, with a third that
I can switch in and out and this provides a bit of a voltage drop.  This way I 
can still get a reasonable
output with the internal batteries without frying the PA when I power the rig 
from 13.8V.

Michael VE3WMB 
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[Elecraft] K3-Options

2010-07-22 Thread nr4c
I am making plans to purchase a K3.  I will most likely start with the  
bare-bones /10 version.  I ultimately want to have the voice recorder  
option.  Looking at the assembly manual for this, it strikes me that  
it might be advisable to install this as part of the original build  
rather than add it later so as not to have to remove the front panel.

Does this make sense?

...bc  nr4c
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Re: [Elecraft] K3-Options

2010-07-22 Thread Don Wilhelm
That argument does not make sense to me.  The front panel is not 
difficult to remove at all.
Removing the front panel from the K3 is quite different than 
disassembling the front panel assembly.
Of course, if you have the current budget to purchase it now, yes it is 
a little easier to include it with the initial build.

73,
Don W3FPR

n...@widomaker.com wrote:
 I am making plans to purchase a K3.  I will most likely start with the  
 bare-bones /10 version.  I ultimately want to have the voice recorder  
 option.  Looking at the assembly manual for this, it strikes me that  
 it might be advisable to install this as part of the original build  
 rather than add it later so as not to have to remove the front panel.

 Does this make sense?

 ...bc  nr4c

   
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: SO-239 Connector Selection

2010-07-22 Thread Tom W8JI
 In some connector applications ... particularly power
 dividers and other applications that are impedance-
 conscious ... SO-239 / PL-259 connectors are not
 suitable.

This is NEVER the case at 30 MHz and lower, so long as connection to the 
connector are properly done. The total impedance bump length in a UHF female 
to UHF male pair is about the length of the center pin of the female.

All of the problems are in the female, and the length of the problem area is 
confined to the spread area of the female that fits over the male pin. That 
area is about 35 ohms impedance, not a large mismatch.

The effect of that is virtually immeasurable on 30 MHz. If connections to 
the SO-239 are 50 ohms, the SWR caused by a SO-239 would be 1.006:1.

If anyone has a problem using a single SO239 PL259 pair below 50 MHz in 
anything but the most critical measurement systems, they did something else 
wrong. This would include filters, combiners, splitters, and loads. 1/2 inch 
at 35 ohms is nothing below UHF.

73 Tom 

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Re: [Elecraft] OT: SO-239 Connector Selection

2010-07-22 Thread Jim Brown
 SO-239 / PL-259 connectors are not suitable.

WRONG! This is another myth, repeated and repeated until it becomes 
accepted. This is HF, not UHF. The impedance of the connector only 
matters when the frequency is high enough that the length of the 
transmission line that the connector comprises is a significant 
fraction of a wavelength. Good quality UHF connectors (PL-259 and 
SO-239) are more than adequate for anything we do on the HF and VHF 
bands. We need to worry about the impedance of the connector at UHF 
and above. 

A brief anecdote. This spring, I made up a lot of RG8 cables for a 
DXpedition. As part of a final test, I hooked eleven 100 ft lengths 
in series and measured the loss. It was within measurement error of 
the specified loss of the cable up to 400 MHz. That was 22 PL-259s, 
11 barrels, and two PL-259 to N adapters to get to the HP generator 
and HP spectrum analyzer that I used to measure it. 

73, Jim Brown K9YC


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Re: [Elecraft] SO-239 Connector Selection

2010-07-22 Thread Tom W8JI
Makes sense on the teflon insulator...  I assume that that only makes
the difference when doing higher power? 

It mostly makes a difference in soldering. The measured voltage breakdown of 
a standard Amphenol SO-239 is well over 5000 volts peak. The arc point is 
normally the air gap between the end of the female and the connector shell 
over the face of the dielectric, provided the pin soldering is smooth and 
without points or accidental closure of the air gap at the pin area with 
sloppy wiring or soldering.

I normally high-pot my PL259 installations to 5000 volts or higher as a 
cable test to check for stray shield strands or other problems. SO-239's 
test just as high or higher, and all of my 1:1 baluns are tested that way 
before installation and they use UHF females.

Other then the fact some plastics in cheap connectors heat a bit at extreme 
voltage and high frequency, I can't imagine any need for Teflon other than 
soldering or reduced carbon tracking from lightning or arcs. I mainly use 
Teflon because I torch solder SO239's and 259's on my homebrew hardline 
connectors, and it is better with lightning arcs or 1500 watts into open 
terminated cables when a switch is wrong.

For your filter application, you could use anything.

73 Tom 

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Re: [Elecraft] OT: SO-239 Connector Selection

2010-07-22 Thread Wes Stewart
I agree with Tom.  The biggest problem, from my perspective, with the UHF 
connectors is the variability of attachment to the cable.  I have no experience 
with crimp varieties, they may mitigate the issue, but the solder on types are 
ripe for trouble.

The other problem with them if you are trying to do any precision 
measurements---an oxymoron I suppose---is that any decent instrumentation will 
have type N connectors, thus adapters are necessary.  Again at HF I would just 
include the adapter as part of the thing I was testing and not worry about it.

Wes  N7WS

--- On Thu, 7/22/10, Tom W8JI w...@w8ji.com wrote:

 In some connector applications ... particularly power
 dividers and other applications that are impedance-
 conscious ... SO-239 / PL-259 connectors are not
 suitable.

This is NEVER the case at 30 MHz and lower, so long as connection to the 
connector are properly done. The total impedance bump length in a UHF female 
to UHF male pair is about the length of the center pin of the female.

All of the problems are in the female, and the length of the problem area is 
confined to the spread area of the female that fits over the male pin. That 
area is about 35 ohms impedance, not a large mismatch.

The effect of that is virtually immeasurable on 30 MHz. If connections to 
the SO-239 are 50 ohms, the SWR caused by a SO-239 would be 1.006:1.

If anyone has a problem using a single SO239 PL259 pair below 50 MHz in 
anything but the most critical measurement systems, they did something else 
wrong. This would include filters, combiners, splitters, and loads. 1/2 inch 
at 35 ohms is nothing below UHF.

73 Tom 




  
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[Elecraft] So-called UHF connectors...

2010-07-22 Thread John Ragle
 Even at 144 MHz, UHF connectors are probably acceptable, with the 
bump being  1 cm in length compared to 200 cm. I think more at issue 
is the environmental quality of the dielectric. The old military ones, 
with what we used to call mud as the dielectric material are really 
not very forgiving of anything outdoors on the long term. They shrink, 
crack, hold water, etc. On the other hand, the PTFE (teflon) 
dielectric versions will hold up under quite vile conditions, 
particularly if properly booted. Personally, I like the Type N 
connectors, and even prefer them over the BNC and other variations. They 
go together much more easily (one might even say rationally) than the 
UHF male cable ends, and anyone who has ever taken a UHF cable-end male 
apart has seen what a mess the sweat-soldering can make of the 
insidebut I do think that the issue with standard mud type UHFs is 
with the durability of the dielectric, not with the impedance bump, at 
HF and even low VHF frequencies.

John Ragle -- W1ZI
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[Elecraft] K3 Variable Bandwidth Filters

2010-07-22 Thread Roy Morris
Has there been any further thought of developing variable bandwidth filters for 
the K3?  Roy Morris  W4WFB
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Re: [Elecraft] K3-Options

2010-07-22 Thread w5ov
Commenting as one who waited to install the DVR: as Don says, it's not all
that difficult to do.

That said, the DVR is so good, I wished I had purchased it originally.

So, I would recommend getting it now because it works so well - not
because of difficulty of installation later.

73,

Bob W5OV



 That argument does not make sense to me.  The front panel is not
 difficult to remove at all.
 Removing the front panel from the K3 is quite different than
 disassembling the front panel assembly.
 Of course, if you have the current budget to purchase it now, yes it is
 a little easier to include it with the initial build.

 73,
 Don W3FPR

 n...@widomaker.com wrote:
 I am making plans to purchase a K3.  I will most likely start with the
 bare-bones /10 version.  I ultimately want to have the voice recorder
 option.  Looking at the assembly manual for this, it strikes me that
 it might be advisable to install this as part of the original build
 rather than add it later so as not to have to remove the front panel.

 Does this make sense?

 ...bc  nr4c


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Re: [Elecraft] OT: SO-239 Connector Selection

2010-07-22 Thread Alan Bloom
On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 10:27 -0700, Wes Stewart wrote:

 The other problem with them if you are trying to do any precision 
 measurements---an oxymoron I suppose---is that any decent instrumentation 
 will have type N connectors, thus adapters are necessary.

It's a little-known fact that a male N connector is a perfect fit with a
female BNC.  Of course, there is no locking mechanism so you wouldn't
want to use it for an antenna connection, but it works fine for testing
on the bench - no adapter necessary.

Al N1AL


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[Elecraft] OT: SO-239 Connector Selection

2010-07-22 Thread Ken Kopp

My experience with SO-239' / PL-259's -was- at
VHF and UHF, and I said so in my posting.

I was made aware of this when the Colorado Springs 
radio club ordered a 4-port divider to feed their 2M 
repeater's antennas and they specified / insisted on 
me building it with SO-239's.  I shipped it and within 
a few days they were complaining of high SWR. 

Before getting the original one back I built and
shipped a second unit, only to get the same report.  
It was only when I built the 3rd unit with N's did it work 
correctly.  

My friends at the NBS labs ... who originated NBS 
yagi design (W0PW / W0EYE) ... along with the
particular power divider design ... explained 
what was going on.  The non-50 ohm SO-239's 
connected to the 35 ohm transmission line / power 
divider were influencing the impedance of divider.

My years at CU's radio astronomy lab and the NBS
cafeteria represent some of the best learning in 
my career.  I learned much via napkin tutoring done
by some of the nation's best radio minds.

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP

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[Elecraft] K3 VOX

2010-07-22 Thread Mike
  The K3 seems to remember VOX on/off on a per band basis.
Any chance to have it on a per mode basis?

73, Mike NF4L
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 VOX

2010-07-22 Thread Mike
  On third thought, disregard the previous post, and revert to #1.

On 7/22/2010 2:01 PM, Mike wrote:
  Never mind. Senior-itis strikes again.

 On 7/22/2010 1:59 PM, Mike wrote:
The K3 seems to remember VOX on/off on a per band basis.
 Any chance to have it on a per mode basis?

 73, Mike NF4L
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 VOX

2010-07-22 Thread Duncan Carter
Please.
Dunc, W5DC

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Re: [Elecraft] OT: SO-239 Connector Selection

2010-07-22 Thread Phil Kane
On 7/22/2010 10:49 AM, Alan Bloom wrote:

 It's a little-known fact that a male N connector is a perfect fit
 with a female BNC.  Of course, there is no locking mechanism so
 you wouldn't want to use it for an antenna connection, but it
 works fine for testing on the bench - no adapter necessary.

  But beware doing it cross species - the male pin of an
  PL-259 connector can be forced into a female N connector by
  tightening the shell threads, thereby ruining the N-connector.

  One of our served agencies found that out the hard way when
  one of their set-up mechanics tried to hook up the wrong end of
  the antenna cable and they had to buy us a new Dual-Band antenna.
  (ouch!)

-- 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
   Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

   From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
   Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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[Elecraft] K3 Memory Manager - MCU 3.94 requesting beta copy

2010-07-22 Thread W6NEK
Hello All,
Does anyone out there have a copy of the latest field test version of K3 
Memory Manager - (ref in MCU 3.94 notes)?  I understand that it is in beta 
testing and has a few issues but is anyone willing to share a copy?  I 
figure a beta copy with known issues is better then no copy at all ;-)

If someone could send me a copy ( or a link ) I would be most grateful,
Thanks and 73,
Frank - W6NEK
w6nek at socal.rr.com

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Re: [Elecraft] OT: SO-239 Connector Selection

2010-07-22 Thread George Jan
Another little known fact is BNCs come in both 50 ohm  75 ohm versions.

I used both 75 ohm (video)  50 ohm (RF) at work.

So verify if it matters to the usage!

--

It's a little-known fact that a male N connector is a perfect fit with a
female BNC.   
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[Elecraft] Repair backlog catch-up ...

2010-07-22 Thread W0WOI
This week I sent my K3 for a factory update inasmuch as 4500 K3s have been  
built since mine.
 
The pleasant surprise was being told July 19 by Elecraft's Ms.  Madelyn the 
turn-around would be two weeks.
 
Thanks, Elecraft crew, one and all!
 
Bill, W0WOI
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 75, Issue 38

2010-07-22 Thread Lu Romero
Joe:

I had forgotten about that nuance regarding the PFL level! 
Yes, its in the manual!  I will set that when I get home and
maybe solve my problem via software.  Maybe.. What about
your statement regarding the Monitor and CW sidetone... Are
you saying that these signals are not available on the Fixed
Line Out spigot?  That would defeat the purpose of what Im
doing.  Im looking for a fixed output *WITH* both SSB
Monitor and CW Monitor inserted in the audio path.  In this
case, I could put the stereo out of the rig into my audio
DA's and send them to their destinations from there, and
never need to touch a level pot again (once I set the DA
level)

I did not know that the piggyback LPF board was not active
on the LINE OUT spigot and only on the Headphone Out and
Speaker Out spigot!  I have one on hand but have not
installed it yet, and I really dont use either of the above,
so I might need to put my Behringer Graphic EQ that is
gathering dust in the audio rack on the audio output post
processing and make the rig flat again, then use the
Behringer EQ to adjust the response.  Glad I still have a
patch bay handy :)  

Joe, I have all this stuff with lots of blinking lights from
my TS850 days sitting there not doing anything, I have to
put it to work, right?  Us Hams LOVE blinking lights!

I find the AF LIMIT feature very nice for low band work.  It
turns the QRM into pseudo white noise splashes but I can
still hear signals below it.  Worked well for me at NQ4I on
160m in this past WPX SSB (see our band scores for proof). 
The little compressor works like a pseudo AGC, clipping the
loud crashes and saving my ears in the process.

Reason I dont follow good engineering practice as you
describe is because Im old and stupid and sometimes I forget
and I grab the big volume pot on the rig in the heat of
battle instead of the little pot on the headset mixer, since
now Im much more attuned to the RF gain control than on the
Japanese rigs I owned before.

Its handy, its there, and its under the fingers, so I just
stupidly grab for it...  I will try to teach myself not to
(a fixed level output will certainly teach me, wont it?)

-lu-

Message: 12
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:41:12 -0400
From: Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: Recording from LIN OUT
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Message-ID: 4c474d58.5040...@subich.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed



Lu,

  It certainly would be nice to have a FIXED level out of
that
  line out jack and be able to adjust levels on the headset
  mixer to the individual outputs without having the rig
  volume pot interfere.

The K3 has a fixed level (pre-fader level for audio pros)
output.  Use the Line Out set to nor and set the level
as appropriate for your external hardware.  I have not
checked recently with a calibrated audio voltmeter, but I
do recall easily seeing .775V RMS with a 50 uV signal and
AGC off - I even had to reduce the RF gain to keep from
distorting (exceeding 1V+ RMS - note the DAC output can
go to about 4.2V P-P and with transformer loss the actual
output should easily reach 2V P-P or .775mV RMS).

The only question is adding monitor and sidetone audio
to that Line Out audio ... and I don't see a digital
mixer capable of providing that capability unless it can
be coded into the overall DSP.

The real question though is, if you are going to all the
trouble to use a leveller, mixer, headset amplifier and
speaker chain, why would you even attempt to adjust the
audio on the transceiver?  Doing so is like giving an
intern, production assistant, or news videographer a
greenie and leaving them alone with the equipment G.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

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Re: [Elecraft] So-called UHF connectors...

2010-07-22 Thread Tom W8JI
 insidebut I do think that the issue with standard mud type UHFs is
 with the durability of the dielectric, not with the impedance bump, at
 HF and even low VHF frequencies.

That's an accurate statement John. The largest bump I've even measured with 
a SO239 PL259 pair was about  1.05:1 at 147 MHz.

The highest SWR with two in tandem, with optimum spacing between bumps to 
enhance SWR error, was around 1.1 :1.

Like Motorola and other have done in the past, I think nothing of a few UHF 
connectors on 2 meters. Barrel connectors can be a problem at VHF, because 
they can have a long mismatch area, but not properly installed UHF pairs or 
good short barrels.

That goodness length matters, because look at the horrible mismatches in 
wiring inside our radios and tuners. 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Memory Manager - MCU 3.94 requesting beta copy

2010-07-22 Thread W6NEK
Many thanks to Dick for response.

Best 73,
Frank - W6NEK

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To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 11:31 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Memory Manager - MCU 3.94 requesting beta copy


 Hello All,
 Does anyone out there have a copy of the latest field test version of K3
 Memory Manager - (ref in MCU 3.94 notes)?  I understand that it is in beta
 testing and has a few issues but is anyone willing to share a copy?  I
 figure a beta copy with known issues is better then no copy at all ;-)

 If someone could send me a copy ( or a link ) I would be most grateful,
 Thanks and 73,
 Frank - W6NEK
 w6nek at socal.rr.com

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Re: [Elecraft] OT: SO-239 Connector Selection

2010-07-22 Thread Phil Kane
On 7/22/2010 11:34 AM, George  Jan wrote:

 Another little known fact is BNCs come in both 50 ohm  75 ohm
 versions. I used both 75 ohm (video)  50 ohm (RF) at work.

  Ditto for N series.  We used to paint a red ring around the 75
  ohm types in our off-the-air monitoring facilities for ease of
  identification.

--  73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft IOTA Excursion

2010-07-22 Thread Maarten van Rossum
Good Luck Dan, hope to work you during the contest.
We will be active from EU-146 with two K3's and one K2 as a spare.
The call will be PA0ABM/p. Please give us a shout too.

73, Maarten
PD2R

2010/7/22 Dan Atchison n...@aol.com

 This weekend, an all Elecraft IOTA contest excursion to NA-067 Core
 Banks, NC will activate N4A during the competition.  K3 and K2 versions
 will be used.  Please give us a shout!!

 73,
 Dan -- N3ND
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[Elecraft] Another K3 IOTA excursion to NA-065

2010-07-22 Thread Dick Dievendorff
K6KR will be using a K3 (and generator power) on NA-065 (Whidbey Island).
Hope to work you!

 

73 de Dick, K6KR

 

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[Elecraft] K3 - D104 Buffer Schematic

2010-07-22 Thread Paul Christensen
Last night, I built up the following D104 buffer circuit as discussed by 
Joe, W4TV.

http://72.52.250.47/images/D104.jpg

Joe's idea works very well.  The difference between this circuit and other 
D104 buffer circuits as seen on the Internet is that it is powered directly 
from the K3's mic lead when the bias menu is activated.  One benefit is that 
the circuit can be ported to a PC sound card.  Another benefit for most 
builders:  Only one part is required -- either a J201 or MPF-102 nFET 
transistor.  When using the PC input configuration shown, I also had good 
results with a Samsung NC10 netbook.

I tried the MPF-102 and J201, and each works well, although the J201 FET can 
be operated with an Ids current down to 0.5 mA.  R89 in the K3 limits the 
Ids current.  The minimum Ids spec for the MPF-102 is 2.0 mA but seems to 
perform the same, albeit with slightly less gain as expected.   The D104 
cartridge level is relatively high anyway and I found that in either 
configuration, the K3's mic menu could be set for the low gain setting. 
Also note the inclusion of the optional Rg and Rs resistors.  My 
breadboarded pre-amp is stable without those components and the gate biases 
just fine.  I'm also not too concerned about static here in Florida.  At 
15-cents ea., the FET is easy and cheap enough to change.

Finally, if RFI becomes an issue, it may be helpful to experiment with a 
bifilar-wound, common-mode choke at the shielded cable entry, close to the 
FET.  I would try that before attempting differential-mode abatement 
techniques (e.g, bypass caps to ground).  Similarly, the mic cable at the K3 
connector end can be wound through a #31 core, if necessary.

Paul, W9AC 

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[Elecraft] SDR with a Twist

2010-07-22 Thread Lyle Johnson
  I just received my FLEX-1500.   I think they have shipped 1,000 of 
these in the last few weeks, erasing their backlog dating about 12 
months.  It has a transmit problem and is going back to the factory for 
repair, but examining the unit got me to thinking once more about PC 
based SDR, Elecraft and our unique place in Amateur radio.

Please bear with me.

The Flex is a dual Eurocard box, so it measures about 4 x 6 x 2.  It has 
a 5W Tx with band coverage limits, and a 1 mW transverter side with no 
band limits.  It covers 160m - 6m continuously ,using a DDS. It accepts 
a 10 MHz reference and a lot of the focus of the radio is toward 
microwave and VHF/UHF folks.  But they are also trying hard to break 
ground into the QRP community, as witnessed by their blitz at Dayton 
last year at the QRP hotel.

An almost universal complaint with the Flex products, including the 
-1500, is less-than-stellar CW performance.  The internal keyer is 
rough, it doe snot do QSK, it uses T/R relays, etc.

PowerSDR is a screen hog.

The -1500 does not support VOX.  It doesn't even have a speaker amplifier.

Etc.

Here is my thought:

Elecraft makes a box about the size of the -1500.  It has a basic 10W 
transceiver, space for internal battery (option), space for an internal 
ATU (option).  Rather than leverage PowerSDR we enter an agreement with 
Alex, VE3NEA.  He was written Rocky which has an elegant, eminnently 
uncluttered UI.  Rocky is freeware, but he could tailor it to our new 
product. It is not open source.  He'd get a royalty or some upfront 
engineering payment.  Alex is the author of CW SKimmer, so this opens 
more markets for that software for him.  ROcky woudlnt' need much to be 
a great user program for us.

And -bing! - it uses little screen real estate, so our portable unit is 
Netbook compatible.  PowerSDR is a hog on a netbook, and you have to use 
an expanded screen so you can;t even see the minimum PowerSDR screen all 
at once, never mind trying to run some logging program, or skimmer, or 
digimode stuff.

Oh, and it already supports the Si570 :-)

Netbooks are cheap, $300 typical, and have long-enough lasting batteries 
for a day in the field.

If you've never played with Rocky, you should. Get a $19 softrock from 
KB9YIG and fire it up with Rocky.  You'll be impressed with what Alex 
has done.

Our SDR woudl have a K1EL WinKeyer (or similar) to get around the iambic 
keyer propblem and windows lantency that Flex has been fighting for 
years now.  With our 10W PA and PIN diode T/R switching, we beat FLex 
hands down for our groupies, the QRP CW operators of the world.

With the battery option and internal ATU option, we've got a portable 
radio station that is inexpensive, powerful and highly portable.

With Alex doing the Rocky code, our support issues are reduced.  We're 
not trying to appeal to an open-source religious community,

We'd fall a bit short with no external reference input.  We could do a 
frequency locked system with the Si570, but not a phase-locked one.  
Then again, how many people are really doing moonbounce and need that 
additional stability and accuracy?

Using the TI PCM2900 series CODEC (I suspect FLex uses this as well, I 
haven't opened my -1500 and it is now in the hands of UPS to get 
repaired.replaced).  But this CODEC is recognized by all sorts of 
computer OSes.  We could open up the radio's API so anyone who wanted to 
could port another SDR app to run our radio (like PowerSDR, or WinRad, 
or LinRad, or...  :-)

This would gives us a very competitive radio, open a new audience to 
Elecraft, provide another I gotta have it product for our existing 
customers, catapult us to the front of the line for QRP SDR, leverage 
our existing designs and expertise, have low risk, we need to write ZERO 
DSP code and ZERO UI code.  We just need to manage T/R switching and 
enforce band limits, implement a keyer with a standard protocol (hence 
the Winkey).

The case is simple: ON|OFF and a couple of LEDs on one side.  A USB 
connector, expansion/accessory connector (similar to Flexwire), mic 
jack, keyer jack, phones jack.

Low risk way to evaluate a lot of the technology for the KX2 and 
possibly the K4 IF section (QSD/QSE, no tune BPF and LPF, Si570 Synth, 
switching regulator).  We can use the foundation and add a front panel 
(top panel?) section and etc. and create the KX2, or at least the 
functional equivalent.  The limited DR of the TI CODEC would require 
intelligent use of a preamp and multi-stage attenuator, but Alex is 
clever and would manage that quite well, I think.

Leverage, leverage, leverage.

Could have it by Dayton 2011 in spite of the setbacks this summer from 
component issues.

Basic 10W radio: $699 (Flex 1500 is 5W and $649)
Internal ATU: $149 (superset of T1?)
Battery pack: $129 (Li-Ion with charge controller)

If we never market it, it is a good development vehicle for the KX2 (all 
but the DSP and FP). IF we do market it, it is a great product and helps 

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - D104 Buffer Schematic

2010-07-22 Thread Paul Christensen
Adobe .PDF of the same schematic:

http://72.52.250.47/images/D104.pdf

Paul, W9AC

- Original Message - 
From: Paul Christensen w...@arrl.net
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 5:29 PM
Subject: K3 - D104 Buffer Schematic


 Last night, I built up the following D104 buffer circuit as discussed by 
 Joe, W4TV.

 Joe's idea works very well.  The difference between this circuit and other 
 D104 buffer circuits as seen on the Internet is that it is powered 
 directly from the K3's mic lead when the bias menu is activated.  One 
 benefit is that the circuit can be ported to a PC sound card.  Another 
 benefit for most builders:  Only one part is required -- either a J201 or 
 MPF-102 nFET transistor.  When using the PC input configuration shown, I 
 also had good results with a Samsung NC10 netbook.

 I tried the MPF-102 and J201, and each works well, although the J201 FET 
 can be operated with an Ids current down to 0.5 mA.  R89 in the K3 limits 
 the Ids current.  The minimum Ids spec for the MPF-102 is 2.0 mA but seems 
 to perform the same, albeit with slightly less gain as expected.   The 
 D104 cartridge level is relatively high anyway and I found that in either 
 configuration, the K3's mic menu could be set for the low gain setting. 
 Also note the inclusion of the optional Rg and Rs resistors.  My 
 breadboarded pre-amp is stable without those components and the gate 
 biases just fine.  I'm also not too concerned about static here in 
 Florida.  At 15-cents ea., the FET is easy and cheap enough to change.

 Finally, if RFI becomes an issue, it may be helpful to experiment with a 
 bifilar-wound, common-mode choke at the shielded cable entry, close to the 
 FET.  I would try that before attempting differential-mode abatement 
 techniques (e.g, bypass caps to ground).  Similarly, the mic cable at the 
 K3 connector end can be wound through a #31 core, if necessary.

 Paul, W9AC 

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Re: [Elecraft] Another K3 IOTA excursion to NA-065

2010-07-22 Thread Greg - AB7R
NA-065 will surely have its share of operators.  :)

Me too! But will only get to operate part time this weekend.  

-
73,
Greg - AB7R
Whidbey Island WA
NA-065


On Thu Jul 22 14:24 , Dick Dievendorff  sent:

K6KR will be using a K3 (and generator power) on NA-065 (Whidbey Island).
Hope to work you!

 

73 de Dick, K6KR

 

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Re: [Elecraft] Another K3 IOTA excursion to NA-065

2010-07-22 Thread Bob Nielsen
Great.  There hasn't been a lot of NA-065 activity in recent years  
(otherwise I wouldn't have that nice IOTA certificate :^) ).  I hope  
to get on from NA-065 also (from Bainbridge Island) with my K2, but  
won't have a lot of operating time.

73, Bob N7XY

On Jul 22, 2010, at 3:14 PM, Greg - AB7R wrote:

 NA-065 will surely have its share of operators.  :)

 Me too! But will only get to operate part time this weekend.

 -
 73,
 Greg - AB7R
 Whidbey Island WA
 NA-065


 On Thu Jul 22 14:24 , Dick Dievendorff  sent:

 K6KR will be using a K3 (and generator power) on NA-065 (Whidbey  
 Island).
 Hope to work you!



 73 de Dick, K6KR



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Re: [Elecraft] SDR with a Twist

2010-07-22 Thread Wayne Burdick
Lyle Johnson wrote:

 I just received my FLEX-1500

Nothing like a little intrigue for our list members :)

Sorry to burden everyone with our internal dialog. I'm sure it isn't  
news to anyone that we talk about prospective products constantly  
(doesn't everyone?).

In any case, back to our regularly-scheduled program

73,
Wayne
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - D104 Buffer Schematic

2010-07-22 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

Paul,

  Last night, I built up the following D104 buffer circuit as discussed 
  by Joe, W4TV.

Thanks for the confirmation.  I have found one other reference to this
approach ... it is mentioned at the end of a QST Hints and Kinks
article by K8RRH in June 2002.   Although most of the article concerns
the K0SF opamp preamp from the August 1999 QST, there is a passing
reference to common source FET designs for both bias on the mic and
conventional externally powered configurations.  The K8RRH article
shows 2N5484 JFETs which have performance characteristics similar to
the MPF-102 (available at Radio Shack).

Since my original goal was to create an electret replacement for use
with both the K3 and computer sound cards, there is a similar approach
for those using dynamic mics like the Heil HC4/HC5/HC6 elements.  See:
http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek/in-prac/best-of.htm#icom by GM3SEK.
The GM3SEK circuit is also mic powered ... but its input impedance
is too low for use with a crystal element.  An externally powered
(e.g., Elecraft pin 6) version of the circuit can be found here:
http://www.tkk.fi/Misc/Electronics/circuits/sbmicamp.html.  The NPN 
circuit can be built using the 2N3904/MPS3904 also available at Radio
Shack.

Converting microphones for electret replacement operation has two
advantages ... the K3 can be operated with low gain settings for
lower sensitivity to external hum/noise and microphones/headsets
can be interchanged without concern over changes to input sensitivity
or bias.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 7/22/2010 5:29 PM, Paul Christensen wrote:
 Last night, I built up the following D104 buffer circuit as discussed by
 Joe, W4TV.

 http://72.52.250.47/images/D104.jpg

 Joe's idea works very well.  The difference between this circuit and other
 D104 buffer circuits as seen on the Internet is that it is powered directly
 from the K3's mic lead when the bias menu is activated.  One benefit is that
 the circuit can be ported to a PC sound card.  Another benefit for most
 builders:  Only one part is required -- either a J201 or MPF-102 nFET
 transistor.  When using the PC input configuration shown, I also had good
 results with a Samsung NC10 netbook.

 I tried the MPF-102 and J201, and each works well, although the J201 FET can
 be operated with an Ids current down to 0.5 mA.  R89 in the K3 limits the
 Ids current.  The minimum Ids spec for the MPF-102 is 2.0 mA but seems to
 perform the same, albeit with slightly less gain as expected.   The D104
 cartridge level is relatively high anyway and I found that in either
 configuration, the K3's mic menu could be set for the low gain setting.
 Also note the inclusion of the optional Rg and Rs resistors.  My
 breadboarded pre-amp is stable without those components and the gate biases
 just fine.  I'm also not too concerned about static here in Florida.  At
 15-cents ea., the FET is easy and cheap enough to change.

 Finally, if RFI becomes an issue, it may be helpful to experiment with a
 bifilar-wound, common-mode choke at the shielded cable entry, close to the
 FET.  I would try that before attempting differential-mode abatement
 techniques (e.g, bypass caps to ground).  Similarly, the mic cable at the K3
 connector end can be wound through a #31 core, if necessary.

 Paul, W9AC

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[Elecraft] N2CQ QRP Contest Calendar: July 24 - Aug 22, 2010

2010-07-22 Thread Ken Newman
~
N2CQ QRP CONTEST CALENDAR
July 24 - Aug 22, 2010 
~
Summer FOX Hunt - QRP 20M CW... QRP Contest!
EDT: Each Tue, 9 PM  to 1029 PM
UTC: Each Wed, 0100z to 0229z 
Info: http://www.qrpfoxhunt.org/
~
Islands On The Air Contest (CW/SSB) ... QRP Category
Jul 24, 1200z to Jul 25, 1200z
Rules: http://www.rsgbcc.org/hf/rules/2010/riota.shtml
~
Flight of the Bumblebees (CW) ... QRP Contest!
EDT: Jul 25, 1300  to 1700
UTC: Jul 25, 1700z to 2100z
Rules: http://adventure-radio.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
~
SKCC Sprint (Straight Key CW)  ... QRP Awards
Jul 28, z to 0200z
Rules: http://www.skccgroup.com/sprint/sks/
~
Adventure Radio Spartan Sprint (CW) *** QRP Event! ***
Aug 3, 0100z to 0300z (First Monday 9 PM EDT)
Info: http://adventure-radio.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
~
Ten-Ten QSO Party (PH) ... QRP Category
Aug 7, 0001z to Aug 8, 2359z
Rules: http://www.ten-ten.org/Forms/QSOPartyRulesRevised.pdf
~
TARA Grid Dip Contest  (PSK/RTTY) ... QRP Category
Aug 7, z to 2400z
Rules: http://www.n2ty.org/seasons/tara_grid_rules.html
~
EUROPEAN HF CHAMPIONSHIP (PH/CW) (EU work EU) Low Power Category
Aug 7, 1200z to 2359z
Rules: http://lea.hamradio.si/~scc/euhf/euhfcrules.htm
~
ARRL UHF Contest ... Low Power Category
Aug 7, 1800z to Aug 8, 1800z
Rules: http://www.arrl.org/august-uhf
~
North American QSO Party (CW) ... 100W Max.  (/QRP noted on entry)
Aug 7, 1800z to Aug 8, 0600z
Rules: http://www.ncjweb.com/naqprules.php
~
SKCC Weekend Sprintathon (Straight Key CW) ... QRP Category
Aug 8, z to 2359z
Rules: http://www.skccgroup.com/sprint/wes/
~
NAQCC Straight Key/Bug Sprint (CW) *** QRP Contest ***
EDT: Aug 10, 8:30 PM to 10:30 PM
UTC: Aug 11, 0030Z to 0230Z
Rules: http://home.windstream.net/yoel/contests.html
~
CWops Mini-CWT Test (CW) ... QRP Category
Aug 11, 1100z to 1200z and
Aug 11, 1900z to 2000z and
Aug 12, 0300z to 0400z
Rules: http://www.cwops.org/onair.html
~
Worked All Europe DX Contest (CW) ... 100W category
Aug 14, z to Aug 15, 2359z
Rules: http://www.darc.de/referate/dx/xedcwr.htm
~
Maryland/DC QSO Party (SSB/CW) ... QRP Category
Aug 14, 1600z to Aug 15, 0400z
Aug 15, 1600z to Aug 15, 2359z
Rules: http://mdcqsoparty.w3vpr.org/
~
Feld Hell Club Sprint (Feld Hell) ... QRP Category
Aug 14, 2000z to 2200z
Rules: http://sites.google.com/site/feldhellclub/Home
~
Rookie Rounup (SSB) 100W max
Aug 15, 1800Z to 2359z 
Rules: http://www.arrl.org/rookie-roundup
~
RUN FOR THE BACON (CW) *** QRP CONTEST ***
EDT: Aug 15, 9 PM to 11 PM
UTC: Aug 16, 0100z 0300z
Rules: http://www.fpqrp.com/
~
SARTG WW RTTY Contest ... Low Power Category
Aug 21, z to 0800z
Aug 21, 1600z to 2400z
Aug 22, 0800z to 1600z
Rules: http://www.sartg.com/contest/wwrules.htm
~
QRP ARCI Silent Key Memorial Contest (CW) *** QRP CONTEST! ***
Aug 21, 1500z to 1800z
Rules: http://www.qrparci.org
~
North American QSO Party (SSB) ... 100W Max.  (/QRP noted on entry)
Aug 21, 1800z to Aug 22, 0600z
Rules: http://www.ncjweb.com/naqprules.php
~
NJ QSO Party (CW/SSB)  
Aug 21, 2000z to Aug 22, 0700z
Aug 22, 1300z to Aug 23, 0200z
Rules: http://www.qsl.net/w2rj/
~

Thanks to SM3CER, WA7BNM, N0AX(ARRL), VA3JFF  G4GXL (QRPARCI)
N2APB (AmQRP), WB3AAL (EPAQRP) and others 
for assistance in compiling this calendar.

If you wish to subscribe to the Calendar,
send an e-mail to n...@arrl.net 

Please forward the contest info you sponsor to n...@arrl.net and
we will post it and give it more publicity.
Anyone may use this N2CQ QRP Contest Calendar for your website,
newsletter, e-mail list or other media as you choose.  
(Include a 

Re: [Elecraft] SDR with a Twist

2010-07-22 Thread Bruce Beford
Lyle Johnson wrote:

 I just received my FLEX-1500

Nothing like a little intrigue for our list members :)

Gawd, I Love/Hate you guys... Keep the ideas flowing, I'll keep buying the
results.

Signed,
N1RX
Confirmed Elecraft groupie...
(we may need some kind of 12-step program...)


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Re: [Elecraft] SDR with a Twist

2010-07-22 Thread Steve Ellington
Gosh I though someone had filed for documents under the Freedom of 
Information Act. But whatever, this sounds like a good scheme. You're right 
about PwrSDR being a resource hog. I had to get a dual core cpu just to run 
LP Pan smoothly. And yes, Flex's QSK will never fly.
Which reminds meAny progress on QSK mode and RIT both running at the 
same time (K3)?
Steve
N4LQ
- Original Message - 
From: Bruce Beford bruce.bef...@myfairpoint.net
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 7:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR with a Twist


 Lyle Johnson wrote:

 I just received my FLEX-1500

 Nothing like a little intrigue for our list members :)

 Gawd, I Love/Hate you guys... Keep the ideas flowing, I'll keep buying the
 results.

 Signed,
 N1RX
 Confirmed Elecraft groupie...
 (we may need some kind of 12-step program...)


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Re: [Elecraft] So-called UHF connectors...

2010-07-22 Thread Fred Jensen
Tom W8JI wrote:
 insidebut I do think that the issue with standard mud type UHFs is
 with the durability of the dielectric, not with the impedance bump, at
 HF and even low VHF frequencies.

A long time ago, the USAF told me that N-connectors, when screwed down 
tightly [with fingers, not tools] were essentially weather-proof.  I 
don't think that included immersion.  Once saw a PL-259 in northern AK 
that was split open ... I guess water got into it and it froze [happens 
around the Arctic Circle :-)]

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2010 Cal QSO Party 2-3 Oct 2010
- www.cqp.org
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Re: [Elecraft] QRQ mode with RIT

2010-07-22 Thread Wayne Burdick
Steve Ellington wrote:

 Any progress on QSK mode and RIT both running at the
 same time (K3)?

Not yet. But I did the math and it looks like I can provide at least a  
few hundred Hz (+/-) of RIT in QRQ mode, or what we call CW+.

Thanks,
Wayne
N6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] SDR with a Twist

2010-07-22 Thread Dan Copeland

Lyle wrote: Low risk way to evaluate a lot of the technology for the KX2 and

possibly the K4 IF section (QSD/QSE, no tune BPF and LPF, Si570 Synth, 
switching regulator


A K4 in the worksPlease tell me more :-)

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Re: [Elecraft] SDR with a Twist

2010-07-22 Thread Gary Gregory
Dan wrote:
Lyle wrote: Low risk way to evaluate a lot of the technology for the KX2 and

possibly the K4 IF section (QSD/QSE, no tune BPF and LPF, Si570 Synth,
switching regulator


A K4 in the worksPlease tell me more :-)
- Show quoted text -

Uh Ohthis is gonna get real interestingnow what what was that I read
about cat's and bags N stuff?

H

I'm gonna lay down, I feel a headache coming...:-))

Gary


On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Dan Copeland n...@mchsi.com wrote:


 Lyle wrote: Low risk way to evaluate a lot of the technology for the KX2
 and

 possibly the K4 IF section (QSD/QSE, no tune BPF and LPF, Si570 Synth,
 switching regulator


 A K4 in the worksPlease tell me more :-)

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K3 #679
For everything else there's Mastercard!!!
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Quadruplets

2010-07-22 Thread Wayne Burdick
Dan Copeland wrote:

 Lyle wrote: Low risk way to evaluate a lot of the technology

There are no new transceiver projects underway at this time. Lyle's  
discussion was speculative, looking at possible directions for future  
projects.

We have our hands full fleshing out the Elecraft quadruplets:

   K3
   P3
   KPA500
   KAT500

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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[Elecraft] MH2 Mic arrived DUH!

2010-07-22 Thread Neil Shubert
Hi ALL

I got my MH2 mic or the k2 and there was no resistor in the box  ACK!

I know its a 5.6K  Green Blue red, and its a 1/4 watt but is there a better
choice?

and should I get a gold or a silver tolerance?

Off to the telephone shack tomorrow

-Neil
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Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Mic arrived DUH!

2010-07-22 Thread Don Wilhelm
Neil,

The resistance is not critical, so if you have a resistor (of any 
tolerance) between 4.7k and 6.8k on hand use that.

Did you have a tan envelope on the package with the 8 jumpers for the 
microphone configuration header?  If so, look very carefully in that 
envelope, the resistor can get twisted inside and will not fall out - 
tear the envelope open if necessary.

73,
Don W3FPR

Neil Shubert wrote:
 Hi ALL

 I got my MH2 mic or the k2 and there was no resistor in the box  ACK!

 I know its a 5.6K  Green Blue red, and its a 1/4 watt but is there a better
 choice?

 and should I get a gold or a silver tolerance?

 Off to the telephone shack tomorrow

 -Neil
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Re: [Elecraft] Repair backlog catch-up ...

2010-07-22 Thread Brett Howard
Rene put in a few weekends to get things down to that...  The guy's
dedicated!  Fun guy to talk to...  But you end up finding a lot of guys
like that in this hobby!

Thanks Rene!

~Brett (N7MG)

On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 14:34 -0400, w0...@aol.com wrote:
 This week I sent my K3 for a factory update inasmuch as 4500 K3s have been  
 built since mine.
  
 The pleasant surprise was being told July 19 by Elecraft's Ms.  Madelyn the 
 turn-around would be two weeks.
  
 Thanks, Elecraft crew, one and all!
  
 Bill, W0WOI
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[Elecraft] K4 and KX2

2010-07-22 Thread DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL
Wayne and Eric

I'd like to send in my deposits NOW so I can then have the right to
complain about how long delivery is taking.

Where do I send my check?

de Doug KR2Q
tongue firmly in cheek
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Re: [Elecraft] Deposits on hypothetical future products

2010-07-22 Thread Wayne Burdick
DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL wrote:

 Wayne and Eric

 I'd like to send in my deposits NOW so I can then have the right to
 complain about how long delivery is taking.

Doug,

There's nothing to put a deposit on, and even if it were, it would be  
so far out that you'd have to take inflation into account :)

Wayne
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Re: [Elecraft] MH2 Mic arrived DUH!

2010-07-22 Thread Neil Shubert
Don, Thank you for the help, and I did just that, tore the envelope up and
it still wasn't there.  Radio is waiting, its ok, its been weeks, it will
wait 1 more day.

-Neil

On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:

 Neil,

 The resistance is not critical, so if you have a resistor (of any
 tolerance) between 4.7k and 6.8k on hand use that.

 Did you have a tan envelope on the package with the 8 jumpers for the
 microphone configuration header?  If so, look very carefully in that
 envelope, the resistor can get twisted inside and will not fall out - tear
 the envelope open if necessary.

 73,
 Don W3FPR

 Neil Shubert wrote:

 Hi ALL

 I got my MH2 mic or the k2 and there was no resistor in the box  ACK!

 I know its a 5.6K  Green Blue red, and its a 1/4 watt but is there a
 better
 choice?

 and should I get a gold or a silver tolerance?

 Off to the telephone shack tomorrow

 -Neil
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Re: [Elecraft] QRQ mode with RIT

2010-07-22 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Few hundred hertz would do it for me just fine.

73, Guy.

On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 7:26 PM, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote:
 Steve Ellington wrote:

 Any progress on QSK mode and RIT both running at the
 same time (K3)?

 Not yet. But I did the math and it looks like I can provide at least a
 few hundred Hz (+/-) of RIT in QRQ mode, or what we call CW+.

 Thanks,
 Wayne
 N6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] QRQ mode with RIT

2010-07-22 Thread Andrew Moore
 Few hundred hertz would do it for me just fine.

Ditto.
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[Elecraft] K3 Feature Request - Stopping CW Memory Playback with PTT

2010-07-22 Thread Andy Wood

I have recently entered into the world of CW and participated in my first
contest using both SSB and CW modes. I noticed that you cannot stop the CW
memory playback by activating the PTT (either from a microphone attached to
the front panel or a footswitch plugged in the rear). It could only be
stopped by touching the paddle.

Could this be implemented in a future firmware version? There is also the
possibility that there may be a very good reason not to.

Andy  VK4KY



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[Elecraft] Anxiously awaiting news on first customer ship and manual for P3

2010-07-22 Thread Jim Miller KG0KP
Can hardly wait as the time must be near - hope hope.
73, de Jim KG0KP
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[Elecraft] Off Topic Hearing Aids

2010-07-22 Thread Mike Short
My dad recently got fitted with new hearing aids, and is a ham. 

They are here:
http://www.phonak.com/com/b2c/en/products/accessories/communication/icom/ove
rview.html

 

He did not get the iCOM unit yet, but will probably soon. Any hints, ideas,
etc to help get him back on the air?

 

Since this unit uses Bluetooth, any ideas on a blue tooth device to connect
to an Icom 706?

 

I am about a year or two away from hearing aids myself. Too much jet noise.

 

Mike


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[Elecraft] W7LD new K3 kit serial 44 93 arrived...

2010-07-22 Thread Jack West
Lucky Dog has a new K3 kit serial 4493.
I ordered it Friday, It was shipped Monday,
and arrived at my QTH Wednesday. Wow!
73 de
Jack / W7LD / Lucky Dog
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Re: [Elecraft] W7LD new K3 kit serial 44 93 arrived...

2010-07-22 Thread Fred Atchley
Snip

Lucky Dog has a new K3 kit serial 4493.

I ordered it Friday, It was shipped Monday, and arrived at my QTH Wednesday.
Wow!

73 de

Jack / W7LD / Lucky Dog

End snip

Congratulations from Instant Coffee (AE6IC.) Hopefully I'll be getting a
P3 shortly.

73, Fred, K3 2241

 

 Do or Do-not. There is no 'Try'... ~ Yoda

 

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[Elecraft] LP-Pan and Rocky (was: SDR with a Twist)

2010-07-22 Thread Jon Kåre Hellan
On 07/23/2010 01:17 AM, Steve Ellington wrote:
 Gosh I though someone had filed for documents under the Freedom of
 Information Act. But whatever, this sounds like a good scheme. You're right
 about PwrSDR being a resource hog. I had to get a dual core cpu just to run
 LP Pan smoothly.

Can Rocky be used with LP-PAN?

Jon LA4RT

  And yes, Flex's QSK will never fly.
 Which reminds meAny progress on QSK mode and RIT both running at the
 same time (K3)?
 Steve
 N4LQ
 - Original Message -
 From: Bruce Befordbruce.bef...@myfairpoint.net
 To:elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 7:10 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR with a Twist


 Lyle Johnson wrote:

 I just received my FLEX-1500

 Nothing like a little intrigue for our list members :)

 Gawd, I Love/Hate you guys... Keep the ideas flowing, I'll keep buying the
 results.

 Signed,
 N1RX
 Confirmed Elecraft groupie...
 (we may need some kind of 12-step program...)


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