[Elecraft] KUSB with FTDI Chipset for sale

2012-12-16 Thread Alan Price

This is a new KUSB, a spare that I don't need.  It has the FTDI Chipset.  For 
sale, delivered for $30.  Shipping is included. 73AlanW1HYV 

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[Elecraft] Sold

2012-12-16 Thread Alan Price

The KUSB has been sold. 73Alan
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[Elecraft] K3 KAT500 'Err AT3'

2012-12-16 Thread KD7YZ Bob
Howdy K3' people:

I see the error message of ERR AT3 on the screen of the K3.

I thought I followed the direction. And the KAT500 is working; the SWR
on bands doesn't seem odd to me, or much past 1.2 anyway.

So what is the cause of the message?




-- 
73
KD7YZ Bob

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[Elecraft] auto tuners

2012-12-16 Thread bill ny9h

while we are fortunate to have a K3 which auto drops power for tuning
what about rigs that tune at higher power  or full power...

what does the rig's output  see at the input to the tuner when the 
tuner is clunking/clanking along relays switching C  L 
components  ???   50 ohms...??

I would think this could challenge the stability of a set of outputs.

tnx

bill

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 KAT500 'Err AT3'

2012-12-16 Thread iain macdonnell - N6ML
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 6:12 AM, KD7YZ Bob kd...@denstarfarm.us wrote:
 Howdy K3' people:

 I see the error message of ERR AT3 on the screen of the K3.

 I thought I followed the direction. And the KAT500 is working; the SWR
 on bands doesn't seem odd to me, or much past 1.2 anyway.

 So what is the cause of the message?

Do you have a KAT3 (inside the K3)? If not, disable that option module
in the K3's config. If you do, it may have a problem...

73,

~iain / N6ML
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 tuning help

2012-12-16 Thread ab2tc
Hi,

I have also  noticed that manual tuning is not memorized withe the memorize
button. I have generally obtained 1.3:1 or less using AUTO so I haven't
played with it a lot. I do have some problems at the high end of 15m where
the raw SWR is just over 12:1.

AB2TC - Knut


RobertG wrote
 I've got the K3, KPA500, and have just installed a factory-built KAT500.
 Some 
 glitches/questions about tuning the KAT500. I have found that, using the
 utility 
 program, I can manually tune to a much lower indicated SWR than the unit
 can in AUTO. 
 Anyone else found this to be so? More importantly, when I do tune to a low
 SWR on a 
 band, click on MEMORIZE, shift bands and come back, the values in the
 utility program 
 don't return to what I just told the KAT to memorize. In other words, the
 system is 
 not remembering my manual tuning values when I switch bands. Any
 comments/guidance 
 much appreciated.
 ...robert
 -- 
 Robert G. Strickland, PhD, ABPH - KE2WY

 rcrgs@

 Syracuse, New York, USA
 snip





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[Elecraft] A Ham's Night Before Christmas

2012-12-16 Thread Mike Rodgers
Check out this video on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_9REVC4dtcfeature=youtube_gdata_player


This was posted to utube last year by the arrl. Merry Christmas. 
If the link don't make it, search the subject line. 

Merry Christmas
Mike R

Play me some fiddle, but no stinkin' violin!

Amateur/Ham Radio KE5GBC
HF  Echolink mobile
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Re: [Elecraft] auto tuners

2012-12-16 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
To protect the rig the Ham must drop the power output to a safe level before
initiating a KAT500 Tune operation, just as one would do to adjust a manual
tuner. The difference is that the Ham doesn't have to manually turn knobs on
the KAT500 to find the best match.

The SWR the rig sees varies widely while the KAT500 is tuning.

Some rigs even require manually retuning the transmitter or amplifier output
before allowing the KAT500 to tune. The procedure for doing this safely is
described on page 13 of the KAT500 manual. 

73, Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of bill ny9h
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 7:36 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] auto tuners

while we are fortunate to have a K3 which auto drops power for tuning
what about rigs that tune at higher power  or full power...

what does the rig's output  see at the input to the tuner when the tuner is
clunking/clanking along relays switching C  L 
components  ???   50 ohms...??
I would think this could challenge the stability of a set of outputs.

tnx

bill

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[Elecraft] 12 meter band on K3

2012-12-16 Thread haircut...@verizon.net
This morning I was listening to different bands on my K2. Got to the 12
meters band and lots of cw activity.( K2 is in the building stage.) So
switched to my K3 to work some stations.  No 12 meter activity heard. Only
couple of birdies. Switched to another rig and and another antenna, Nothing
heard the 12 meter band.
 Does something need tweaking on the K3?

Don...w2xb



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[Elecraft] December RFTB Tonight

2012-12-16 Thread Larry Makoski
Chirstmas is coming upon as quickly.  In the midst of your decorating, tree 
trimming, light hanging and cookie baking, take a breather from the frenzy and 
get some radio time in!

Tonight is the Decmber 2012 edition of the Run For The Bacon.  That friendly 
lil' ol' QRP Sprint sponsored by your friends at the Flying Pigs QRP Amateur 
Radio Club International.  Join us for a spell to have some fun and to say Hi 
to friends, old and new.

The time is the same as always:

East coast - 9:00 to 11:00 PM local time
Midwest - 8:00 to 10:00 PM local time
Rockies - 7:00 to 9:00 PM local time
West coast - 6:00 to 8:00 PM local time

The rules are at:

http://fpqrp.org/pigrun/

And to all Flying Pig members, this is a great opportunity to work a bunch of 
your fellow piggies and then enter your contacts into the WAP log.

And hey, don't forget the 2012 Zombie Shuffle is this coming Friday!

73 de Larry W2LJ
FP# 612
QRP ARCI# 4488


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Re: [Elecraft] auto tuners

2012-12-16 Thread hawley, charles j jr
Seems like I read it, the KAT500, was good up to 100 watts for tuning.

Sent from my iPad
Chuck, KE9UW 
(Jack for BMW motorcycles)

On Dec 16, 2012, at 11:00 AM, Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz wrote:

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Re: [Elecraft] K144XV vs XV144

2012-12-16 Thread Edward R Cole

Not a comment on the K144XV vs XV144, but one about running eme.

Use of a low-noise figure preamp is not optional for eme, so 
transverter sensitivity is less important an issue, though its nice 
if it is low.  I use a DEMI 144-28 transverter with 0.8 dB NF 
(unmeasured) and 17-dB conversion gain.  With my 0.1 dB NF preamp 
(26-dB gain) this produces a S4 noise floor in the K3 on 28-MHz (a 
bit too much gain).  This will result in impacting large signal 
handling but I have no issues for that on 2m since the nearest active 
2m eme station is in BC about 1300km away.


Use of an external preamp is encouraged on 2m and higher freq if one 
is into working CW/SSB/digital long-range, weak-signal contacts.  You 
can't work em if you can't hear me!  My 2m-eme receiving system MDS= 
-153 dBm. (-172 dBm with antenna gain).  K3 diversity receiving makes 
eme a real joy!


Best Wished for the Holidays!
Ed - KL7UW
we will be attending Dayton this year!  We will be at the microwavers 
flea mkt location with WA5VJB and NE8I (and others).  I plan to demo 
the new 5w/140w HF amp using the KX3 as exciter.


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Re: [Elecraft] K144XV vs XV144

2012-12-16 Thread Edward R Cole
oops!  meant to say: you can't work em if you can't hear em, but 
also true on 2m-eme if you can not hear me - LOL!

I run ERP= 73kW on 2m-eme.

Ed

At 09:53 AM 12/16/2012, Edward R Cole wrote:

Not a comment on the K144XV vs XV144, but one about running eme.

Use of a low-noise figure preamp is not optional for eme, so 
transverter sensitivity is less important an issue, though its nice 
if it is low.  I use a DEMI 144-28 transverter with 0.8 dB NF 
(unmeasured) and 17-dB conversion gain.  With my 0.1 dB NF preamp 
(26-dB gain) this produces a S4 noise floor in the K3 on 28-MHz (a 
bit too much gain).  This will result in impacting large signal 
handling but I have no issues for that on 2m since the nearest 
active 2m eme station is in BC about 1300km away.


Use of an external preamp is encouraged on 2m and higher freq if one 
is into working CW/SSB/digital long-range, weak-signal 
contacts.  You can't work em if you can't hear me!  My 2m-eme 
receiving system MDS= -153 dBm. (-172 dBm with antenna gain).  K3 
diversity receiving makes eme a real joy!


Best Wished for the Holidays!
Ed - KL7UW
we will be attending Dayton this year!  We will be at the 
microwavers flea mkt location with WA5VJB and NE8I (and others).  I 
plan to demo the new 5w/140w HF amp using the KX3 as exciter.


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Re: [Elecraft] auto tuners

2012-12-16 Thread Mark Bayern
Maybe, but is the transmitter capable of surviving the power reflected
when that tuner is trying to tune?

Mark


On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 12:31 PM, hawley, charles j jr
c-haw...@illinois.edu wrote:
 Seems like I read it, the KAT500, was good up to 100 watts for tuning.

 Sent from my iPad
 Chuck, KE9UW
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Re: [Elecraft] auto tuners

2012-12-16 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
That's right Chuck. But, as Bill observed, SWR swings while the KAT500 is
tuning could endanger components in some non-Elecraft rigs driving it at
that power. 

If a tender QRO amp that cannot handle a large mismatch at its output were
to feed high power (100 watts) into the KAT500 it could suffer a failure
since the KAT500 will refuse to switch to protect itself from damage. The
amp will see whatever SWR is present. 

So it's important for someone operating a non-Elecraft amplifier, or
barefoot rig for that matter, to know how to configure it for safe tuning,
whether they are using a KAT500 or any other tuner. 

73, Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-

Seems like I read it, the KAT500, was good up to 100 watts for tuning.

Sent from my iPad
Chuck, KE9UW 
(Jack for BMW motorcycles)


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Re: [Elecraft] auto tuners

2012-12-16 Thread Fred Smith
Dale

With the KAT500 you need at least 20w for a proper tune at this time, I
really don't think anyone would want to tune with 100w that cared anything
about their equipment. Not needed or useful in any way.

Fred/N0AZZ

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Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 1:38 PM
To: Ron D'Eau Claire; 'hawley, charles j jr'
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] auto tuners

 I understand tuning with an auto tuner... it must see some SMALL amount of
power to actually tune itself.   What I DON'T understand, so I am looking
for a whole lot of help here Why would someone want to tune up with FULL
power, when a little does the job?   Isn't that generally and specifically
called malicous interference?  Also using more power than is neededto
communicate? Yes.. you are communicating.. with your tuner! Not the guy on
the other side of the world...at least not while tuning.  So.. help me out
here... please?

--...   ...--
Dale - WC7S in Wy
  
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[Elecraft] KX3 right anglemic plug

2012-12-16 Thread W2bpi1
I thot I seen info on where these were available. I did not book mark it  
and can't find it now. Did not think I would ever get a KX3 but now it is 
here.  Tnx to XYL! Wow what a great rig and XYL!  72  George/W2BPI
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Re: [Elecraft] 12 meter band on K3

2012-12-16 Thread Rick Prather
Don,

Do you have the RX antenna selected on just 12M?

The selection is band specific.

Rick
K6LE

On 12/16/2012, at 9:11 , haircut...@verizon.net wrote:

 This morning I was listening to different bands on my K2. Got to the 12
 meters band and lots of cw activity.( K2 is in the building stage.) So
 switched to my K3 to work some stations.  No 12 meter activity heard. Only
 couple of birdies. Switched to another rig and and another antenna, Nothing
 heard the 12 meter band.
 Does something need tweaking on the K3?
 
 Don...w2xb
 
 

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Re: [Elecraft] 12 meter band on K3

2012-12-16 Thread Don Wilhelm

Don,

Were you really tuned to 12 meters? or somewhere else?  There is the 
possibility that you have a problem with your K2.


I have not listened to 12 meters, but if I understand you correctly, you 
listened to 12 meters with the K2, the K3 and some other radio - and 2 
out of 3 did not hear the signals.


That causes me to wonder if you were really listening to 12 meters on 
the K2.  One check you can make is to use the internal frequency counter 
probe and see what the frequency at TP1 (the VFO output) is when tuned 
to 12 meters - then add 4913 kHz and you should have to actual operating 
frequency.


There is one more check to make to see if you are really hearing 12 
meters - run the K3 (tuned to 12 meters) into a dummy load, then connect 
a short antenna to the K2, placing that antenna near the dummy load.  
You should be able to hear the K3 signal on the K2.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/16/2012 12:11 PM, haircut...@verizon.net wrote:

This morning I was listening to different bands on my K2. Got to the 12
meters band and lots of cw activity.( K2 is in the building stage.) So
switched to my K3 to work some stations.  No 12 meter activity heard. Only
couple of birdies. Switched to another rig and and another antenna, Nothing
heard the 12 meter band.
  Does something need tweaking on the K3?

Don...w2xb



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[Elecraft] K3 Filters (again???!!) - Many Thanks

2012-12-16 Thread PETER HUTCHISON
Hi,
Many thanks to all who responded to my query about which filters to purchase 
for WJST modes.
The replies were varied and all were based on sound argument - ie what worked 
best for that particular operator. The consensus of opinion boiled down to just 
get the basic filter, see how you get on and if necessary get others as and 
when needed. What was interesting was that of all who expressed an opinion said 
go for the kit instead of buying it completed which makes a lot of sense both 
financially and to learn a little about how the rig worked. 
I tried to answer all who contacted me but my server refused to send on my 
reply to Jim KG0KP who I would like to thank via this medium.
Here is hoping that Santa works out of season and delivers me a K3 kit sometime 
in early 2013!
Peter G4URT
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Sn 7385 build started but wrong resistors supplied on control board.

2012-12-16 Thread Paul Jackson
Thanks for the reply Don. 
After searching for hours I finally found the pin outs and fitted eighth
watt resistors instead.
Did the first lot of digital tests yesterday and all passed with flying
colors, very impressed. 
Love the look of the rig now the front panel and sides have been fitted,
shame I have to pull it all to bits again for the next build stages.
Not complaining about the US mail service, It's the British postal service
that have said parcels from the 
USA will not now arrive until after Christmas if ordered after the 12th of
December. Yes it's a joke.
Regards.
Paul   

  



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[Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net results (12/16/12)

2012-12-16 Thread Phillip Shepard
We had a good net today. We had 31 participants over a 24 minute period.  No
discussions. Have a great week.

Here is the list of participants:

Station NameQTH Rig S/N

N6JWJohnCA  KX3/515, K3/936, K2/3290
K7BRR   BillAZ  K3  5545
WV5IDwayne  TX  K3  5287
KA7MAY  Calvin  UT  K2  7239
W7NMD   Palmer  AR  K3  3997
NZ0TBillMO  K3  1502
K0VET   JohnMO  K3  3986
KE5VDT  Roger   TX  K3  6054
K6DSW   Don CA  K3  3138
KG6WNI  Leo CA  K2  7144
KF5IMA  Bruce   MS  K2  3575
W4PFM   PaulVA  K3  1672
W4RKS   Jim AL  K3  3618
KE5GBC  MikeTX  K3  5047
K4GCJ   Gerry   NC  K3  1597
K5ONGaryNM  K3  6558
KD8DZ   MikeOH  K3  5905
W2RWA   DickNY  K3  2603
KA0NCR  Arnie   NE  K2  6673
AB7CE   Roy MT  KX3 115 QRP
W0SZSteve   CO  K3  176
W0FMTerry   MO  K3  474
W5ETJ   GaryTX  K3  3227
KL7UW   Ed  AK  K3  4043
WD5MDavid   TX  K3  6493
WN4SLG  DougTN  K3  6433
KN5LJohnTX  K3  4448
KB3FBR  Joe PA  K2  6178QRP
ZL1PWD  Peter   NZ  K3  139
K2CPE   RichNJ  K2  1102QRP
NS7PPhilOR  K3  1826

73,

Phil, NS7P
ph...@riousa.com

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[Elecraft] FS: K2 QRP version, SN1322

2012-12-16 Thread n5ib
My K2 needs a good and loving home for, alas, I covet my neighbor's KX3
I am the builder and sole owner, purchased and built starting in May 2000
It is essentially mint, one small nick on the RIT button, and two
pinpoint marks on the left side panel
Non-smoking environment
Photos on request

$695 plus actual shipping (your choice) from 70810 will get you...

Basic K2 QRP CW Transceiver, serial number 1233
Firmware revision 2.01E, I/O Controller firmware 1.02
Internal autotuner (KAT2) 
SSB module (KSB2) 
Noise Blanker module (KNB2) 
160 meter / RX antenna module (K160RX) 
RS-232 I/O Module (KIO2) 
Serial I/O cable included (K2 -- DB9)
WJ4P sidetone purity mod done
Filter flattening mod done (XFILMDKT)
BFO (L33) mod done (BFOMDKT)
MIC jack wired as Kenwood 8-pin (MC-50) standard
RX audio wired to MIC jack for PSK operation 
Filters set at 1000 Hz, 600 Hz, and 250 Hz
Power cord terminated with Anderson PowerPoles
Homebrewed isolated interface for soundcard modes, with cables
Original manual (not marked in) plus one copy that was used for the
actual build
Original invoices
Manuals for all option modules
Copies of miscelaneous builder's notes and modification notes
The noisy audio gain pot mod was NOT done, so there's some noise when
turning the pot, but it never bothered me. 
A copy of the user's note describing the mod is included.

73,
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Re: [Elecraft] 12 meter band on K3

2012-12-16 Thread ab2tc
Hi,

But 12m shouldn't be completely dead. Even at this late hour there is a fair
bit of CW activity on 12m heard on my K3 with a G5RV antenna (which is
actually close to resonance on 12m). I hear some weak SSB signals in the
phone sections. Right now wh7w is calling CQ on 24893 without any takers.
Well, now he seems to have given up..

AB2TC - Knut


Don Wilhelm-4 wrote
 Don,
 
 Were you really tuned to 12 meters? or somewhere else?  There is the 
 possibility that you have a problem with your K2.
 
 I have not listened to 12 meters, but if I understand you correctly, you 
 listened to 12 meters with the K2, the K3 and some other radio - and 2 
 out of 3 did not hear the signals.
 
 That causes me to wonder if you were really listening to 12 meters on 
 the K2.  One check you can make is to use the internal frequency counter 
 probe and see what the frequency at TP1 (the VFO output) is when tuned 
 to 12 meters - then add 4913 kHz and you should have to actual operating 
 frequency.
 
 There is one more check to make to see if you are really hearing 12 
 meters - run the K3 (tuned to 12 meters) into a dummy load, then connect 
 a short antenna to the K2, placing that antenna near the dummy load.  
 You should be able to hear the K3 signal on the K2.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
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[Elecraft] KPA500 Firmware Update and USB-Serial Cable ?

2012-12-16 Thread Phil Hystad
Gang,

OK, I was going to update the firmware with the latest (1.18 I think) version 
for the KPA500 and realized that I did not have a PC USB to KPA500 Serial (DB9) 
cable for this.

My first question:  was one supposed to come with the KPA500?  If so, I will 
need to look around better.  If not, I am wondering how I missed ordering that.

Second question:  is the USB to Serial cable needed by the KPA500 the same as 
used with the K3.  I mean, on the order page, under the K3 category do you 
order that particular cable or is there something listed for each rig component 
(e.g. KPA500).  I know the KAT500 is different, using the little 3.5 mm 
connector I think on the KAT500 side.

Thanks for clarification.

73, phil, K7PEH

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Firmware Update and USB-Serial Cable ?

2012-12-16 Thread Anthony Scandurra
Phil,

It's the same cable as for the K3.  When I need to do the more rare KPA500
firmware upgrade, I just switch it over temporarily to the KPA500.

73, Tony K4QE

On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Phil Hystad phys...@mac.com wrote:

 Gang,

 OK, I was going to update the firmware with the latest (1.18 I think)
 version for the KPA500 and realized that I did not have a PC USB to KPA500
 Serial (DB9) cable for this.

 My first question:  was one supposed to come with the KPA500?  If so, I
 will need to look around better.  If not, I am wondering how I missed
 ordering that.

 Second question:  is the USB to Serial cable needed by the KPA500 the same
 as used with the K3.  I mean, on the order page, under the K3 category do
 you order that particular cable or is there something listed for each rig
 component (e.g. KPA500).  I know the KAT500 is different, using the little
 3.5 mm connector I think on the KAT500 side.

 Thanks for clarification.

 73, phil, K7PEH

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Re: [Elecraft] Possible firmware regression related to ACC2 IO / PTT=LO

2012-12-16 Thread Wayne Burdick

No intentional change was made to this, Mark.

Please try activating the PTT=LO function of ACC2 manually, by  
shorting the signal to ground. If that works correctly, but it doesn't  
work from your 590's keyline, then I'd suspect the connection.


73,
Wayne
N6KR

On Dec 14, 2012, at 9:05 PM, K7MJG wrote:


Hello,



In my setup, I use the KX3 as a receiver (only) and a TS-590s as a  
100 watt
transmitter. (Until the KXPA100 comes out.)  To prevent damage to  
the KX3
receiver while transmitting 100W from the TS-590, I have connected  
the 590
to the ACC2 port of the KX3 and set the ACC2 IO to PTT=LO.  This has  
worked
well for me so far.  When the 590 is keyed up, the KX3 goes into  
transmit

(with the TX light illuminated) and the receiver is shut off.



However, recently, (probably with the latest 1.30 firmware release),  
I see
something strange and certainly dangerous to my KX3.  When I key up  
the 590
(a quick dit with 5 watts - the minimum), the KX3 TX light goes on,  
but I
can see what I am transmitting (CW) on my CW Skimmer screen!  I can  
tune the
590 to other frequencies and CW skimmer follows the 590's TX  
frequency.
This tells me that the KX3 is actually receiving what I'm  
transmitting with
the 590 even though the TX light is on and the RX should be  
disabled. Note

that the KX3's S-meter is not deflected (no apparent signal).



Can someone (possibly one of the firmware engineers at Elecraft)  
tell me if
a recent behavioral change was made to the ACC2 PTT controls?  If  
the change
was intentional, is there an alternate mechanism to satisfy my use  
case?




73,

Mark Glenn

K7MJG





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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Firmware Update and USB-Serial Cable ?

2012-12-16 Thread Don Wilhelm

Phil,

The serial cable for the KPA500 is the same as the one for the K3. You 
can either change it temporarily to the KPA500 or use one of those DE-9 
RS-232 A/B switch boxes to change it from the K3 to the KPA500 - or you 
can use another cable dedicated to the KPA500.
That cable does not automatically come with the KPA500, you must order 
it separately.


Yes, the KAT500 cable is different, and is the same cable that is used 
with the XG3, the KX3 and the XV144.


73,
Don W3FPR
On 12/16/2012 5:54 PM, Phil Hystad wrote:

Gang,

OK, I was going to update the firmware with the latest (1.18 I think) version 
for the KPA500 and realized that I did not have a PC USB to KPA500 Serial (DB9) 
cable for this.

My first question:  was one supposed to come with the KPA500?  If so, I will 
need to look around better.  If not, I am wondering how I missed ordering that.

Second question:  is the USB to Serial cable needed by the KPA500 the same as 
used with the K3.  I mean, on the order page, under the K3 category do you 
order that particular cable or is there something listed for each rig component 
(e.g. KPA500).  I know the KAT500 is different, using the little 3.5 mm 
connector I think on the KAT500 side.

Thanks for clarification.

73, phil, K7PEH



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[Elecraft] K3 with SDR-IQ and external antenna for SDR-IQ?

2012-12-16 Thread KD7YZ Bob
Howdy K3' people:

Here's another one I am trying to solve. What if I want to receive down
at 17.2KHz  sometimes ... or certainly below 4 or 500KHz, the base of
the K3? Well,, that connection to the IF, was handy and safe, but now I
need external antenna.

Also, it is safest of when the SDR-IQ is not to the IF  that we switch
the SDR-IQ input to maybe a 50 ohm dummy during xmit cycle of K3.

Anyone have this worked out? What equipment re you using and what
connection from K3 does the switching.

I have sequencer's for my 6m EME pre-amp ... just wondering what anyone
else does with the K3?

Actually, I need to know this anyway since the EME stuff was
driven/switched by my former rig, the FT-950 and I haven't figured out
how to switch the sequencer on K3 xmit anyway.





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73
KD7YZ Bob

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Firmware Update and USB-Serial Cable ?

2012-12-16 Thread Phil Hystad
Thanks Don (and, Anthony who also replied),

I will order a separate KPA500 cable.  Even though I could share the K3 cable 
for those more rare updates, the hassle of disconnecting and connecting is not 
worth the extra dollars.  I just wish my shack were larger so I could actually 
walk behind my equipment.  They have so many cables on them with the full 
K-line plus KAT500 with its many cables it is really messy to fool with.

73, phil, K7PEH


On Dec 16, 2012, at 3:30 PM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:

 Phil,
 
 The serial cable for the KPA500 is the same as the one for the K3. You can 
 either change it temporarily to the KPA500 or use one of those DE-9 RS-232 
 A/B switch boxes to change it from the K3 to the KPA500 - or you can use 
 another cable dedicated to the KPA500.
 That cable does not automatically come with the KPA500, you must order it 
 separately.
 
 Yes, the KAT500 cable is different, and is the same cable that is used with 
 the XG3, the KX3 and the XV144.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
 On 12/16/2012 5:54 PM, Phil Hystad wrote:
 Gang,
 
 OK, I was going to update the firmware with the latest (1.18 I think) 
 version for the KPA500 and realized that I did not have a PC USB to KPA500 
 Serial (DB9) cable for this.
 
 My first question:  was one supposed to come with the KPA500?  If so, I will 
 need to look around better.  If not, I am wondering how I missed ordering 
 that.
 
 Second question:  is the USB to Serial cable needed by the KPA500 the same 
 as used with the K3.  I mean, on the order page, under the K3 category do 
 you order that particular cable or is there something listed for each rig 
 component (e.g. KPA500).  I know the KAT500 is different, using the little 
 3.5 mm connector I think on the KAT500 side.
 
 Thanks for clarification.
 
 73, phil, K7PEH
 
 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 with SDR-IQ and external antenna for SDR-IQ?

2012-12-16 Thread Don Wilhelm

Bob,

To receive VLF you will need a VLF converter.  The IF connection on the 
K3 is only an output, so the converter will connect to one of the 
antenna inputs to the K3.  If it is to be receive only, you could 
connect to the RX antenna input or to the ANT1 or ANT2 connections of 
the KAT3, or to the RX port of the KXV3.


If the external device is to transmit as well as receive, you can 
connect it to one of the KAT3 antenna jacks, or if it is capable of 1 mW 
IF transmit levels, connect it to the same IF connectors as used for the 
VHF/UHF transverters.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/16/2012 6:31 PM, KD7YZ Bob wrote:

Howdy K3' people:

Here's another one I am trying to solve. What if I want to receive down
at 17.2KHz  sometimes ... or certainly below 4 or 500KHz, the base of
the K3? Well,, that connection to the IF, was handy and safe, but now I
need external antenna.

Also, it is safest of when the SDR-IQ is not to the IF  that we switch
the SDR-IQ input to maybe a 50 ohm dummy during xmit cycle of K3.

Anyone have this worked out? What equipment re you using and what
connection from K3 does the switching.

I have sequencer's for my 6m EME pre-amp ... just wondering what anyone
else does with the K3?

Actually, I need to know this anyway since the EME stuff was
driven/switched by my former rig, the FT-950 and I haven't figured out
how to switch the sequencer on K3 xmit anyway.







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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filters (again???!!) - Many Thanks

2012-12-16 Thread Don Wilhelm

Peter,

The K3 filters are quite easy to install later - *unless* you have the 
KRX3 installed.
If you are considering the subRX as part of your order, then I suggest 
you do not install the subRX until you have gotten a handle on the 
filters that you will want.  Install those filters and then install the 
KRX3.  The reason is entirely physical - the K3 main RX filters are 
beneath the KRX3, so that assembly must be removed to add additional 
filters to the main K3 RX.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/16/2012 4:41 PM, PETER HUTCHISON wrote:

Hi,
Many thanks to all who responded to my query about which filters to purchase 
for WJST modes.
The replies were varied and all were based on sound argument - ie what worked 
best for that particular operator. The consensus of opinion boiled down to just 
get the basic filter, see how you get on and if necessary get others as and 
when needed. What was interesting was that of all who expressed an opinion said 
go for the kit instead of buying it completed which makes a lot of sense both 
financially and to learn a little about how the rig worked.
I tried to answer all who contacted me but my server refused to send on my 
reply to Jim KG0KP who I would like to thank via this medium.
Here is hoping that Santa works out of season and delivers me a K3 kit sometime 
in early 2013!
Peter G4URT



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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Firmware Update and USB-Serial Cable ?

2012-12-16 Thread Dick Dievendorff
For the short term, you can use the same cable you use for installing K3
firmware, just move it over to the KPA500.  A standard serial cable, either
USB to Serial or 9-pin to a real RS-232 port is required, just the same
requirement as your K3. I don't believe one came with the KPA500 unless you
specifically ordered it.  We have been sending a USB to Serial Adapter with
our devices that have 3.5mm connectors (KX3, XG3, KAT500), but the more
generic K3 and KPA500 don't come with a cable.  At least that's my
recollection.

I use a four-port Gearmo USB to Serial adapter that uses the FTDI chip set.
I use one port (COM2) for my P3/K3, another (COM3) for a KPA500, another
(COM4) with an Elecraft KXSER cable for a  KAT500 and the last COM5  with
another KXSER cable for the KX3 or XG3, I have to choose between these.  I
use COM1 for an LP-100A.  

http://www.amazon.com/FT4232HL-Professional-Retention-Certified-Microsoft/d
p/B004ETDC8K/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8qid=1355703302sr=8-2keywords=4-port+usb+to
+serial+adapter

The KXSER cable has a 9-pin D shell on one end and a 3.5mm plug on the
other.

I able to use N1MM's logger and one serial port for CW keying and PTT, using
the RTS/DTR lines of the same serial port used for P3 / K3 rig control.

There are certainly other options. This one works for me.  I may eventually
get another one for COM6-COM9.

73 de Dick, K6KR


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Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 Firmware Update and USB-Serial Cable ?

Gang,

OK, I was going to update the firmware with the latest (1.18 I think)
version for the KPA500 and realized that I did not have a PC USB to KPA500
Serial (DB9) cable for this.

My first question:  was one supposed to come with the KPA500?  If so, I will
need to look around better.  If not, I am wondering how I missed ordering
that.

Second question:  is the USB to Serial cable needed by the KPA500 the same
as used with the K3.  I mean, on the order page, under the K3 category do
you order that particular cable or is there something listed for each rig
component (e.g. KPA500).  I know the KAT500 is different, using the little
3.5 mm connector I think on the KAT500 side.

Thanks for clarification.

73, phil, K7PEH

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Re: [Elecraft] Possible firmware regression related to ACC2 IO / PTT=LO

2012-12-16 Thread K7MJG
Wayne,

Thank you for taking the time to reply on a weekend.

I'm not an EE, so I could have flubbed this test, but here is what I did:
With ACC2 IO PTT=LO, KX3 power output set to 0.0W, and CW Skimmer monitoring
the RX I/Q from the KX3, I plugged a brand new plug into the end of the
short ACC2 cable supplied with the 'KX3-PCKT Cable Set' (no connection to
the 590), then shorted the tip to the sleeve. The KX3 TX light came on as
expected.  I keyed up a short dit on the 590 at five watts (into a dummy
load, for the record) and was able to see the dit show up on the CW Skimmer
screen at the 590 TX frequency.  

Curiously, when I went to the KX3 right after reading your post, I could not
immediately recreate the behavior.  With no intentional change to the setup,
it started happening again, which is when I did the experiment above.

Let me know how you'd like me to proceed.  I can try to load older versions
of the firmware, but I'll wait for your recommendation.

73,
Mark Glenn
K7MJG



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Re: [Elecraft] Possible firmware regression related to ACC2 IO / PTT=LO

2012-12-16 Thread Wayne Burdick

Mark,

When the KX3 is placed in transmit mode, it doesn't disable its RX I/Q  
outputs. These come directly from the receive mixer. Since the KX3's  
local oscillator is still active in transmit mode, too, a really  
strong signal (one that gets around the T/R switch) could still give  
you a strong enough response at the I/Q outputs to be decoded. It  
might vary with relative positions of the equipment, cables, etc.


You should be able to prevent the decode by putting the KX3 into SPLIT  
mode, with VFO B moved well out of the target band. This way the LO  
would be shifted in transmit mode so that any decode would be out of  
the range of Skimmer.


For example if you're on 20 meters, set VFO B to well below the band  
edge, say 13.8 MHz.


Let me know if this works.

73,
Wayne
N6KR



On Dec 16, 2012, at 5:13 PM, K7MJG wrote:


Wayne,

Thank you for taking the time to reply on a weekend.

I'm not an EE, so I could have flubbed this test, but here is what I  
did:
With ACC2 IO PTT=LO, KX3 power output set to 0.0W, and CW Skimmer  
monitoring
the RX I/Q from the KX3, I plugged a brand new plug into the end of  
the
short ACC2 cable supplied with the 'KX3-PCKT Cable Set' (no  
connection to
the 590), then shorted the tip to the sleeve. The KX3 TX light came  
on as
expected.  I keyed up a short dit on the 590 at five watts (into a  
dummy
load, for the record) and was able to see the dit show up on the CW  
Skimmer

screen at the 590 TX frequency.

Curiously, when I went to the KX3 right after reading your post, I  
could not
immediately recreate the behavior.  With no intentional change to  
the setup,

it started happening again, which is when I did the experiment above.

Let me know how you'd like me to proceed.  I can try to load older  
versions

of the firmware, but I'll wait for your recommendation.

73,
Mark Glenn
K7MJG



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Re: [Elecraft] are KXUSB and KXUSBa interchangeable?

2012-12-16 Thread Scott Monks
Thanks Don, and the others that answered--this was one of my dumb 
questions!!  I Wrote this from my phone while on a trip without access to the 
KX3 manual.  When I got home and looked--well, of course they are not the 
same!  

    As well, my message was confusing.  I had ordered a P3 the day before going 
on the trip and while traveling I realized that I didn't have a backup KUSB 
cable for my K3 in case the cable failed.  So, I got in a panic but figured I 
could solve that cheaply by having a second cable shipped with the P3.  
    I figured that I could even save buying a 'backup' if the USB cable for my 
new KX3 (which I am still learning to use) work work for that.  Thus, my rushed 
question about the compatibility.

    Thanks for all your patience, and again, to those who answered even though 
my question wasn't too clear!

73, Scott  AA0AA; XE1/AA0AA






 From: Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com
To: Scott Monks cq_dx_de_aa...@yahoo.com 
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 8:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft]  are KXUSB and  KXUSBa interchangeable?
 
Scott,

I did not see a response to your question on the reflector.
The answer is NO.
The P3 takes a regular DE-9 connector (as found on most USB to serial 
adapters) while the KX3, XG3 and KAT500 take a 3.5mm stereo plug 
carrying only TXD and RXD and signal ground

73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/11/2012 1:14 PM, Scott Monks wrote:
 Hello all;

      I am ordering a P3 today and would like to consider ordering a second 
KXUSB as a backup because I have nightmares that my cable might fail and I 
will be left without a hookup at a critical moment.

      Is the KXUSBa that came with my KX3 interchangeable as a backup?  I 
know, I could try it, but if it is not interchangeable and I damage something 
I will be up the proverbial creek without a cable until I can get one.







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[Elecraft] (K3) 10 Watt DX

2012-12-16 Thread David Guernsey
Thanks to Elecraft for a great radio.  I was able to make a DX contact with the 
South Cook Islands using my K3/10 at only 10 watts on 15 meters today.  I only 
have an invergted vee up about 30 ft. for an antenna and run my K3 at 10 watts 
almost exclusively.  

 
73 de Dave KJ6CBS
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Re: [Elecraft] missed market

2012-12-16 Thread Josh Lehan
On 12/14/2012 05:31 AM, Robert Vargas (KP4Y) wrote:
 I looked at my KX3 this morning and the mere though of seeing it being used 
 as a CB radio sent chills down my spine...yeah, buy one of those walkie 
 talkie style CB radios if you want the portability, I had one before 
 becoming a ham. Unless, you are really seeking bragging rights at the next 
 CB club meeting. ;-)

I would love it if such a good radio could be made to work at all
frequencies.  The only thing preventing the TX circuit from working at
27 MHz is the software.  I realize this is because of the FCC, but it's
unfortunate the FCC is requiring purchase of separate devices for
separate bands.  It completely goes against the modern idea of
convergence, where one device can be made to do the work of two or
more older devices.  The KX3 would make a great CB.  Similarly, my
VHF/UHF HT would easily make a great FRS/GPRS radio as well, allowing me
to reach a wider audience and communicate with non-hams easily.

However, the FCC requires purchase of a bunch of different redundant
radios instead of allowing manufacture of a rather cool all-in-one
unit.  Unfortunately, there is no technical solution to what is a
political problem

Josh
K6JSH
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 with SDR-IQ and external antenna for SDR-IQ?

2012-12-16 Thread KD7YZ Bob
Don tapped out:


 To receive VLF you will need a VLF converter.
Well,  that would be neat if Elecraft made one ... would integrate
nicely. Then, since all I want to do is RX, I'd be isolated and not
worry about frying the SDR-IQ.

However, that's not the case, so I have to run an antenna straight into
the SDR-IQ, and I have already done this twice. The first time, I was
handily listening down at 17KHz with just the antenna to the SDR-IQ.

Second time I was also xmit on the K3 and tuning the 450 ladder line.
The SDR took a hit, I fear.

Thus, I want to switch the SDR-IQ's antenna input OFF whatever existing
external antenna she has WHEN I hit xmit on the K3. Call it a
precaution. Won't have anything to do with xmit on the K3 nor Rx. Just
the fact I want to externally close a relay that puts the SDR-IQ into
50-ohm lad when K3 xmit.

This is essentially what we do with some high-end Pre-amps for EME.

I was hoping somebody in the list had already solved the mechanics.


   The IF connection on the
 K3 is only an output, so the converter will connect to one of the 
 antenna inputs to the K3.  If it is to be receive only, you could 
 connect to the RX antenna input or to the ANT1 or ANT2 connections of 
 the KAT3, or to the RX port of the KXV3.

 If the external device is to transmit as well as receive, you can 
 connect it to one of the KAT3 antenna jacks, or if it is capable of 1 mW
 IF transmit levels, connect it to the same IF connectors as used for the
 VHF/UHF transverters.

 73,
 Don W3FPR

 On 12/16/2012 6:31 PM, KD7YZ Bob wrote:
 Howdy K3' people:

 Here's another one I am trying to solve. What if I want to receive down
 at 17.2KHz  sometimes ... or certainly below 4 or 500KHz, the base of
 the K3? Well,, that connection to the IF, was handy and safe, but now I
 need external antenna.

 Also, it is safest of when the SDR-IQ is not to the IF  that we switch
 the SDR-IQ input to maybe a 50 ohm dummy during xmit cycle of K3.

 Anyone have this worked out? What equipment re you using and what
 connection from K3 does the switching.

 I have sequencer's for my 6m EME pre-amp ... just wondering what anyone
 else does with the K3?

 Actually, I need to know this anyway since the EME stuff was
 driven/switched by my former rig, the FT-950 and I haven't figured out
 how to switch the sequencer on K3 xmit anyway.









-- 
73
KD7YZ Bob

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Firmware Update and USB-Serial Cable ?

2012-12-16 Thread Phil Debbie Salas
I also use a Gearmo 4-port USB/serial converter.  Got mine from Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/FT4232HL-Professional-Retention-Certified-Microsoft/dp/B004ETDC8K/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8qid=1355712034sr=8-2keywords=gearmo+usb+to+rs-232

Phil – AD5X
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Firmware Update and USB-Serial Cable ?

2012-12-16 Thread Jim McDonald
Has anyone tested this with RTTY?

73, Jim N7US


-Original Message-
I also use a Gearmo 4-port USB/serial converter.  Got mine from Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/FT4232HL-Professional-Retention-Certified-Microsoft/dp/B004ETDC8K/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8qid=1355712034sr=8-2keywords=gearmo+usb+to+rs-232

Phil – AD5X



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Re: [Elecraft] missed market

2012-12-16 Thread Bob K6UJ
Oh No
Here we go again

Bob
K6UJ




On Dec 16, 2012, at 6:10 PM, Josh Lehan wrote:

 On 12/14/2012 05:31 AM, Robert Vargas (KP4Y) wrote:
 I looked at my KX3 this morning and the mere though of seeing it being used 
 as a CB radio sent chills down my spine...yeah, buy one of those walkie 
 talkie style CB radios if you want the portability, I had one before 
 becoming a ham. Unless, you are really seeking bragging rights at the next 
 CB club meeting. ;-)
 
 I would love it if such a good radio could be made to work at all
 frequencies.  The only thing preventing the TX circuit from working at
 27 MHz is the software.  I realize this is because of the FCC, but it's
 unfortunate the FCC is requiring purchase of separate devices for
 separate bands.  It completely goes against the modern idea of
 convergence, where one device can be made to do the work of two or
 more older devices.  The KX3 would make a great CB.  Similarly, my
 VHF/UHF HT would easily make a great FRS/GPRS radio as well, allowing me
 to reach a wider audience and communicate with non-hams easily.
 
 However, the FCC requires purchase of a bunch of different redundant
 radios instead of allowing manufacture of a rather cool all-in-one
 unit.  Unfortunately, there is no technical solution to what is a
 political problem
 
 Josh
 K6JSH
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Re: [Elecraft] missed market

2012-12-16 Thread W2RU - Bud Hippisley

On Dec 16, 2012, at 9:10 PM, Josh Lehan krel...@krellan.net wrote:

 I would love it if such a good radio could be made to work at all
 frequencies...It's
 unfortunate the FCC is requiring purchase of separate devices for
 separate bands.  Unfortunately, there is no technical solution to what is a
 political problem

Sorry, I don't see it as a political problem.  It's a societal problem.  
Far too many CBers are dedicated, consumate law-breakers, and that's been true 
ever since they were first given access to the 27 MHz band.  So I strongly 
support FCC measures to make it harder for that group of outlaws to get access 
to equipment their licenses don't allow them to have.  Admittedly, it was 
stupid to open an ionospheric-skip band to a supposedly line-of-sight service, 
but to call it a political problem is to blame a homeowner for leaving his door 
unlocked when vandals steal from him.  Athe age of entitlement; I love 
it!

Bud, W2RU
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filters (again???!!) - Many Thanks

2012-12-16 Thread Jim Miller
True Don, Without the second receiver it is pretty much a nothing to do
the install.  I have the second receiver too and have added filters twice
since it was installed.  The second time, the 2 meter internal module was
also installed.  Yes, it is not as simple as without additional pieces in
the way but can be done and I didn't see it as anything other than a bit of
a pain to have to remove and reinstall them.  Not something that cannot be
done.

73, de Jim KG0KP

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 5:55 PM
To: PETER HUTCHISON
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filters (again???!!) - Many Thanks

Peter,

The K3 filters are quite easy to install later - *unless* you have the
KRX3 installed.
If you are considering the subRX as part of your order, then I suggest you
do not install the subRX until you have gotten a handle on the filters that
you will want.  Install those filters and then install the KRX3.  The reason
is entirely physical - the K3 main RX filters are beneath the KRX3, so that
assembly must be removed to add additional filters to the main K3 RX.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/16/2012 4:41 PM, PETER HUTCHISON wrote:
 Hi,
 Many thanks to all who responded to my query about which filters to
purchase for WJST modes.
 The replies were varied and all were based on sound argument - ie what
worked best for that particular operator. The consensus of opinion boiled
down to just get the basic filter, see how you get on and if necessary get
others as and when needed. What was interesting was that of all who
expressed an opinion said go for the kit instead of buying it completed
which makes a lot of sense both financially and to learn a little about how
the rig worked.
 I tried to answer all who contacted me but my server refused to send on my
reply to Jim KG0KP who I would like to thank via this medium.
 Here is hoping that Santa works out of season and delivers me a K3 kit
sometime in early 2013!
 Peter G4URT


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Re: [Elecraft] missed market

2012-12-16 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Josh, K6JSH wrote:

... it's unfortunate the FCC is requiring purchase of separate devices for 
separate bands 

No, it's a separate *service* not just a different band. In the USA, Hams
have never had the privilege of operating radios in other services using
their Ham license. For decades I carried a First Class Radiotelephone
License (now a General Radio Operator's License) to operate standard
broadcast and other transmitters, and I carry a Global Marine Distress
Safety System license to operate the radios used at sea in addition to a
Global Marine Distress Safety System Maintainer's license to repair those
radios. 

Whatever you think of the CB service in the USA the FCC requirements for the
equipment are entirely different from that of the Amateur Radio Service. 

73, Ron AC7AC



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Re: [Elecraft] missed market

2012-12-16 Thread Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft
Guys - end of thread.

Eric
Moderator
www.elecraft.com
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On Dec 16, 2012, at 7:58 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz wrote:

 Josh, K6JSH wrote:
 
 ... it's unfortunate the FCC is requiring purchase of separate devices for 
 separate bands 
 
 No, it's a separate *service* not just a different band. ...
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Re: [Elecraft] missed market

2012-12-16 Thread Phil Kane
On 12/16/2012 7:40 PM, W2RU - Bud Hippisley wrote:

 Admittedly, it was stupid to open an ionospheric-skip band to a
supposedly line-of-sight service,

The CB Radio Service was created when the 11-meter band was reallocated
internationally to Industrial, Scientific, and Medical services (ISM)
- in essence, an electronic garbage can used by diathermy machines,
industrial heat sealers, and similar non-communications radiators.  As
such, the FCC felt that if the new users can make communications in that
mess, it's all theirs.  The first CB users were rather law-abiding --
that went downhill in the mid-1960s.

During the 1960s it was very common to hear such signals sweeping
through the band.  The main reason that we don't hear them today is that
they were usually using unfiltered DC, and rich in harmonics.  The third
harmonic fell in the aviation bands, and  caused harmful interference.
The FCC had a very extensive effort to close down such devices - in
fact, they were the only devices that an FCC enforcement agent could
order closed down on the spot with no notice or hearing.  The sweep was
due to heat sealers (think waterbed mattresses) changing frequency as
the material - the dielectric in a capacitor so to speak - changing as
it heated up.  Those devices were required to be used in shielded rooms
or at other frequencies, usually the ISM microwave bands.

So much for that history lesson -  I was there.

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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Re: [Elecraft] Possible firmware regression related to ACC2 IO / PTT=LO

2012-12-16 Thread K7MJG
Wayne,

 

Thanks for the great operating tip and for the explanation of the data path.
Split works very well and keeps the CW Skimmer output pristine.

 

For my own peace of mind - Can I assume, then, that it is safe to transmit 100
watts into a transmit antenna approximately 20 feet from the KX3's separate
receiving antenna, and that as long as the KX3's PTT is activated and the KX3's
TX light is illuminated, I'm not doing damage to my KX3? 

 

Incidentally, I'm very much looking forward to the KXPA100 and will be one of
the first in line to order it once it is announced.

 

Best regards,

Mark Glenn

K7MJG

 

From: wayne burdick [via Elecraft]
[mailto:ml-node+s365791n756726...@n2.nabble.com] 
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 6:30 PM
To: K7MJG
Subject: Re: Possible firmware regression related to ACC2 IO / PTT=LO

 

Mark, 

When the KX3 is placed in transmit mode, it doesn't disable its RX I/Q   
outputs. These come directly from the receive mixer. Since the KX3's   
local oscillator is still active in transmit mode, too, a really   
strong signal (one that gets around the T/R switch) could still give   
you a strong enough response at the I/Q outputs to be decoded. It   
might vary with relative positions of the equipment, cables, etc. 

You should be able to prevent the decode by putting the KX3 into SPLIT   
mode, with VFO B moved well out of the target band. This way the LO   
would be shifted in transmit mode so that any decode would be out of   
the range of Skimmer. 

For example if you're on 20 meters, set VFO B to well below the band   
edge, say 13.8 MHz. 

Let me know if this works. 

73, 
Wayne 
N6KR 



On Dec 16, 2012, at 5:13 PM, K7MJG wrote: 


 Wayne, 
 
 Thank you for taking the time to reply on a weekend. 
 
 I'm not an EE, so I could have flubbed this test, but here is what I   
 did: 
 With ACC2 IO PTT=LO, KX3 power output set to 0.0W, and CW Skimmer   
 monitoring 
 the RX I/Q from the KX3, I plugged a brand new plug into the end of   
 the 
 short ACC2 cable supplied with the 'KX3-PCKT Cable Set' (no   
 connection to 
 the 590), then shorted the tip to the sleeve. The KX3 TX light came   
 on as 
 expected.  I keyed up a short dit on the 590 at five watts (into a   
 dummy 
 load, for the record) and was able to see the dit show up on the CW   
 Skimmer 
 screen at the 590 TX frequency. 
 
 Curiously, when I went to the KX3 right after reading your post, I   
 could not 
 immediately recreate the behavior.  With no intentional change to   
 the setup, 
 it started happening again, which is when I did the experiment above. 
 
 Let me know how you'd like me to proceed.  I can try to load older   
 versions 
 of the firmware, but I'll wait for your recommendation. 
 
 73, 
 Mark Glenn 
 K7MJG 
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 with SDR-IQ and external antenna for SDR-IQ?

2012-12-16 Thread Edward R Cole

KD7YZ Bob:

Not difficult to do with the K3.  Connect to the KEY OUT connector 
with wiring to the ground side of a 12v coax relay with a 50-ohm term 
on the NO coax connection.  Connect the SDR-IQ to the relay common 
coax connection and antenna to the NC coax connection.  The K3 will 
cause the coax relay to switch the SDR-IQ into the load when the K3 transmits.


The SDR-IQ has to be on a separate antenna from what the K3 is 
connected, to ensure no RF goes to the SDR-IQ.


If you already are using the KEY OUT for controlling something else 
then a NPN transistor is needed to isolate the relay coil from the 
other device.  The NPN will invert the logic so you may need another 
transistor stage to maintain the same logic.  Alternately you can 
make an logic isolator with two diodes such that current from the 
relay does not flow to the other device but only thru the K3 KEY 
ckt.  (sounds more complicated than it is).


73, Ed - KL7UW

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[Elecraft] [K3] Re:10w DX

2012-12-16 Thread Mike Rodgers
I too find the k3 works good at qrp enhanced by a good transmit audio section. 
A little more challenging on the high noise bands. 
Works good ssb not just cw. 

73
Mike R

Play me some fiddle, but no stinkin' violin!

Amateur/Ham Radio KE5GBC
HF  Echolink mobile
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Re: [Elecraft] Possible firmware regression related to ACC2 IO / PTT=LO

2012-12-16 Thread Wayne Burdick

K7MJG wrote:

Thanks for the great operating tip and for the explanation of the  
data path.

Split works very well and keeps the CW Skimmer output pristine.


Great!


For my own peace of mind - Can I assume, then, that it is safe to  
transmit 100
watts into a transmit antenna approximately 20 feet from the KX3's  
separate
receiving antenna, and that as long as the KX3's PTT is activated  
and the KX3's

TX light is illuminated, I'm not doing damage to my KX3?


Putting the rig into TX mode is a very effective strategy for  
protecting the front end. I'd feel better if the antennas were farther  
apart, but you seem to have an existence proof.


Wayne
N6KR


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[Elecraft] KX3 on 27 MHz

2012-12-16 Thread Tim Hague
It would be no good anyway, Elecraft don't make an echo mic!

Best regards, Tim Hague
Skype m0afj.Tim
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