Re: [Elecraft] Quick Question

[Bob]

Hi David,

   Yes it does.  There are 4 memories playable from the front panel 
and there is another selectable bank of four.  They are programmable using the 
internal keyer or the utility program.


73,
Bob
K2TK  ex KN2TKR (1956)  K2TKR


On 4/7/2014 12:16 AM, David Cole wrote:

Does the K3 have a CW keyer memory?  IE., can I program up a CQ TEST, in
one memory, then the 599 00X in the other?


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Re: [Elecraft] Quick Question

[Sverre Holm (LA3ZA)]

David Cole wrote
 Does the K3 have a CW keyer memory?  IE., can I program up a CQ TEST, in
 one memory, then the 599 00X in the other?

The way the second part of the question is phrased it looks as if you are
asking if there is a memory that increments a counter per QSO, i.e. 599 001,
599 002, and so on. the K3 has indeed CW memories as others have said, but
they are static so the contents doesn't increment, at least not as far as I
know.





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Re: [Elecraft] RF into K3 via serial port?

[Kjeld Holm]

Dear Bill, 

 

I too have had (have) something of the same problem. 

 

For a long time I could transmit 20 W only on digital modes on 80 meters. If
transmitting more power the K3 would lock in transmit mode and I would have
to turn it off to stop it transmitting. 

 

Now I have bought a pair of Line In Line Out cables with very good
shielding. I can now transmit at least 250 W without locking the K3 in
transmit mode. 

 

My next problem is that when using Ham Radio deluxe (HRD) to control the K3
the HRD  locks up so I have to close the program and start again if I want
to do any changes in frequency, power or whatever. Other programs running on
the computer at the same time do not lock up. So my guess is that it is my
COM port that locks up. I may try using some better shielded cable for the
COM port. I haven't had the time yet. 

 

Best regards

OZ1CCM Kjeld

 

 

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill Davis
Sent: 6. april 2014 02:10
To: Elecraft Mailer
Subject: [Elecraft] RF into K3 via serial port?

 

  In my transition to Win7, I added a 2 port serial PCI card (NewEgg
purchase -- Sunix 5037A) to my Dell PC. I was going to use one of these 2
ports to communicate with my K3 Utility terminal program. Very handy CW /
RTTY application. Shortly after installation I made a nice contact on 30m
RTTY and then moved to 80m RTTY. SURPRISE!!  During TX the K3 hung in TX and
only a couple of characters (if that) were ever transmitted. I was
attempting to run about 70watts or so. Only by reducing power to a few watts
would the RTTY transmission seemingly be successful.

 

  The 80m antenna is resonate and very low SWR even without the KXPA100
tuner. (My K3/10 is for VHF/UHF/Microwave IF use mostly, hence the external
PA/Tuner).

 

  So RF is getting back into the K3 .. odd ... nothing is hot in the shack
at all. My workaround is to use the new serial ports for other
hardware/applications and use the one serial port in the Dell Dimension 4700
for the K3 / terminal program. Things are happy that way.

 

  I may investigate and try a ferrite core on the serial cable. But I will
need to get an HF core since all of mine are for higher freq use. I just
thought this was really odd. My serial cable is homebrew minimum conductor
cable and I don't recall if it is shielded or not.

 

 

  Anyone else had any similar experiences??

 

73 Bill  K0AWU

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Re: [Elecraft] Quick Question

[David G4DMP]

It would be easiest to use one's skill and send this using a paddle.
Ideally the signal strength should be derived from the receiver's
S-meter. RST599 at my QTH is the very much the exception than the rule.

It should not be beyond the bounds of possibility these days,
electronically to compute Readability, Strength and Tone.  Maybe the K4
will do this ;-)

73 de David G4DMP

In a recent message, Sverre Holm (LA3ZA) la...@nrrl.no writes
The way the second part of the question is phrased it looks as if you are
asking if there is a memory that increments a counter per QSO, i.e. 599 001,
599 002, and so on. the K3 has indeed CW memories as others have said, but
they are static so the contents doesn't increment, at least not as far as I
know.

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Re: [Elecraft] Anti Static Mats

[Lawrence D. Lopez]

if you put a sensitive part
on a something that conducts
well then you get a static
discharge and damage.
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[Elecraft] K3 commander issue

[Jeff Griffin]

I noticed that when I switch frequency from a USB to an LSB one or visa
versa on my K3 by clicking on a spot, or a memory in memory bank 1, the K3
changes to the right mode for an instant then goes back to the mode it was
in. I tested this with my 7100 and Commander operates correctly. I just
moved my K3 to this location from my other home and there I never noticed
this problem. I also recently added an Elecraft KAT500 and KPA500 to the mix
and maybe this caused the issue? Anyway it has caused me to be in the wrong
mode on several occasions and would like to fix this. I tried to mess with
the command interval and scan dwell in the commander config to no avail.
Does anyone running the same setup have/had this problem? Anyone have a
clue? Need more info?

73 Jeff kb2m 

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Re: [Elecraft] Anti Static Mats

[Rich]

If I got such an answer from a fire department, I would tell them that 
the dead cat may well be hidden in the tree, and once dead would likely 
attract nature's sanitation team and they would likely remove the dead 
cat with at least as much efficiency as the fire department can muster.


If the cat is injured, it may need help that it can not provide for it's 
self.


I'm not a cat lover, I just don't think this analogy is worth much.  
(And, not trying to start a budget discussion--I would not call the fire 
department, but a five-year old kid might).


A bad anti-static mat may relate more to the sick cat than the dead 
cat.  When you pull on the tail of the sick cat you may get a weak mew 
that may eventually go silent, returning this thread back to radio 
through reference to an old wireless metaphor.


YMMD

Richard Hill

On 4/6/2014 10:16 PM, Fred Townsend wrote:

Alan if you call the fire department about a cat up a tree they will ask if you 
have ever seen a dead cat in a tree inferring that the cat will find its own 
way down from the tree without help.

If the resistance and maintenance of the mat are so critical don't you think we 
would reports of dead mats by now?
73
Fred, AE6QL



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From: Fred Townsend fptowns...@earthlink.net
Sent: Apr 6, 2014 9:24 PM
To: Sam Morgan k5oai@gmail.com, elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Anti Static Mats


I was once asked if the mats on my assembly line were antistatic. I thought 
they were but I wasn’t sure since I didn’t buy them. The mats took a beating 
and only lasted a year or two. Some were new and some were in tatters. I 
flipped over a new mat. It clearly said antistatic but the older mats didn’t 
have any labels and they looked different. I took an ohmmeter, stabbing the 
probes in about an inch apart. No reading. No reading for the new mats or the 
antistatic bags we used by the thousands. After rubbing with fur, a 
triboelectric meter (a meter used for measuring static charge) was used on the 
mats and bags without measuring a charge.

My conclusion was surfaces could be antistatic without measuring any 
resistance. Same for bags. If you have one from your Elecraft kit, try 
measuring it with an ohmmeter.
73
Fred, AE6QL


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From: Sam Morgan k5oai@gmail.com
Sent: Apr 6, 2014 7:21 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Anti Static Mats

oops never mind, I just reread the pdf on the Sierra FS and it's made in
China, where as the Desco is made in the US (or so they say)

On 4/6/2014 9:00 PM, Alan Bloom wrote:


I recommend against using a mat that has no specifications other than
asserting it is an anti-static mat.  I found that the two I bought and
tested both had too high a resistance to do any good.

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K5OAI
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Staff @ WRTC 2014 ?

[Jorge Diez - CX6VM]

Hi Fabio

This will be great!, I think most of the people will be using K3´s. Shipping
or carry on them will cause something to be bad and will be a lot of help to
have an Elecraft technique to help with some issues.

I met Wayne in Hamcation Orlando and talked about that, hope we have this
help there

Anyway I hope to not need this assistance because all the equipments arrive
OK!

73,
Jorge
CX6VM/CW5W

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Para: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Asunto: [Elecraft] Elecraft Staff @ WRTC 2014 ?

Does Elecraft Guys  expect to have a techical corner into the WRTC 2014 HQ
in Boston ? 

To support and fix last minute K3 competitors issue ??

Could be a great service , in particular for overseas competitors ...

73 de Fabio I4UFH   

WRTC 2014 EU2 competitor
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[Elecraft] Previous rig for sale here...

[David Cole]

Hello all,

Previously there was a K3 for sale here, and a question was brought up
as to the validity of the seller.  This was the rig with the son selling
for his father.  The son was out of the US when he posted the ad on
Craig's list, which is why it showed as not from the US.  The father's
health is failing, and he is moving to be closer to his children.

As it turns out I know the Father, (we worked together in MARS for a
number of years), so I drove up to look at the rig, and to say hello to
an old friend whom I had lost contact with.  The rig and owner live in
Salem Oregon, and I live in Eugene, Oregon, so the drive was only about
70 or so miles.

While the radio was not the one I wanted, the seller is real, and the
rig is in 7 or 8 out of 10 for physical condition, no visible scratches,
but the new look is gone.  It seemed to work, I am very new at using a
K3, so all I can say is it powered up, it tuned a few stations, it
transmitted, and teh ATU looked like it was working.  

It has the stock filters, no Sub RX, and the Panadapter's front panel is
in good shape, with the exception of one cross threaded screw on the
upper right top as you look at it from the front.  It also has the ATU,
and the Voice memory.  He has the original receipt for it from Elecraft.
Beyond that I can not say anything more about working condition. YMMV

Given that you have all been so kind as to allow me to generate a large
number of posts/questions, and you have all answered every question I
have asked, I thought this would help to pay some of the kindness back
to the list by posting the results of my ventures looking at this
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[Elecraft] K3 Wattmeter Cal and Tech Mode

[Ed G]

Folks,
 While attempting to do a K3 wattmeter calibration, I go into the CONFIG
menu.  However, I only see WMTR MW and I cannot select any other power
settings, such as LP or HP.  I ten checked to make sure the TECH MODE is on.
Going to that entry, I see Funct ion which I assume is On.  However, I
cannot get this entry to turn off; when I rotate the main knob the setting
does not alternate between on and off...it always stays on. 

1.  How do I get into the wattmeter settings if tech mode is already on?
2.  and how do I turn tech mode off after I am done with wattmeter
calibration?

Thanks for any hints.

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[Elecraft] KX3-2M module?

[Lance Collister, W7GJ]

Has anybody heard anything regarding the timing of the KX3-2M module for the KX3?  Is 
it still planned for high enough stability for JT65B mode and a maximum power of 10w? 
TNX and VY 73, Lance*

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3-2M module?

[ejkkjh]

Lance,
Its been a long wait
Last thing I remembered posted here was, it is still in development/testing 
and possibly 3 or 4 watts, less than most HTs.

Emory  WM3M

-Original Message- 
From: Lance Collister, W7GJ

Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 9:57 AM
To: Elecraft Mailing List
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3-2M module?

Has anybody heard anything regarding the timing of the KX3-2M module for the 
KX3?  Is
it still planned for high enough stability for JT65B mode and a maximum 
power of 10w?

TNX and VY 73, Lance*
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Re: [Elecraft] Previous rig for sale here...

[AA6VO]

Tell Greg to repost the ad giving his contact info (email, phone). He
should spell it phonetically so a bot cannot pick it up. Also include his
fathers call sign to add credibility. Also, to help make a sale, he should
have pictures available on another site or by email.

Sadly there are many folks committing Internet fraud, and the savvy users
on this reflector are just trying to help prevent a ripoff.

Steve  AA6VO

On Monday, April 7, 2014, David Cole [via Elecraft] 
ml-node+s365791n7586767...@n2.nabble.com wrote:

 Hello all,

 Previously there was a K3 for sale here, and a question was brought up
 as to the validity of the seller.  This was the rig with the son selling
 for his father.  The son was out of the US when he posted the ad on
 Craig's list, which is why it showed as not from the US.  The father's
 health is failing, and he is moving to be closer to his children.

 As it turns out I know the Father, (we worked together in MARS for a
 number of years), so I drove up to look at the rig, and to say hello to
 an old friend whom I had lost contact with.  The rig and owner live in
 Salem Oregon, and I live in Eugene, Oregon, so the drive was only about
 70 or so miles.

 While the radio was not the one I wanted, the seller is real, and the
 rig is in 7 or 8 out of 10 for physical condition, no visible scratches,
 but the new look is gone.  It seemed to work, I am very new at using a
 K3, so all I can say is it powered up, it tuned a few stations, it
 transmitted, and teh ATU looked like it was working.

 It has the stock filters, no Sub RX, and the Panadapter's front panel is
 in good shape, with the exception of one cross threaded screw on the
 upper right top as you look at it from the front.  It also has the ATU,
 and the Voice memory.  He has the original receipt for it from Elecraft.
 Beyond that I can not say anything more about working condition. YMMV

 Given that you have all been so kind as to allow me to generate a large
 number of posts/questions, and you have all answered every question I
 have asked, I thought this would help to pay some of the kindness back
 to the list by posting the results of my ventures looking at this
 particular K3.



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3-2M module?

[Lance Collister, W7GJ]

Hi Ray et al,

Many thanks for the status update!  I agree it is certainly a good thing to wait and 
fine tune the hardware before officially releasing the product, and Elecraft does a 
great job of that.   I will look forward to hearing more next month ;-)


I don't operate 2m FM myself, but it would be nice to have a backup 2m exciter.  I 
think if it could do 5w in JT65B mode, it should be able to drive my solid state amp 
up enough to bring my 8877 up to 1500w output on EME.  ;-)  Provided it is very 
stable


VY 73, Lance

On 4/7/2014 2:10 PM, Ray Sills wrote:

HI Lance:

Yours is a frequent inquiry, but you should know that there was a redesign of the 
the module's board to address an issue that showed up in field testing.  At the 
moment, the replacement version is in field testing, so the expectation is that all 
is now OK, and that there should be an announcement very soon.  If I were a betting 
man, I'd wager that Elecraft would want to be taking orders at Dayton.


Granted, it does seem like it's taking forever to get this item to delivery status, 
but Elecraft has been rigorous about making sure that their shipping products are 
as good as they can be.  This item is all hardware, so it really needs to be just 
right when it ships.  With the KX3 itself, there are fixes and additions that can 
be part of a firmware revision, but that's not true here.


I'm still on the fence about the 2M module.  I'm sure it will be good, but at this 
point, I have not been doing any 2M operating, except for using my HT with a local 
club net.  And, I don't need the module for that.  I also have an FT-817 which 
works nicely on 2M SSB.. so there is very little pressure for me to consider the 
module.  But then... who knows?  :)


73 de Ray
K2ULR
KX3 #211

On Apr 7, 2014, at 9:57 AM, Lance Collister, W7GJ wrote:

Has anybody heard anything regarding the timing of the KX3-2M module for the KX3?  
Is it still planned for high enough stability for JT65B mode and a maximum power 
of 10w? TNX and VY 73, Lance*

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Wattmeter Cal and Tech Mode

[Ken K3IU]

If memory serves me, you need to have the K3 in the range 
before the CONFIG:WMTR will indicate that range, e.g., if 
you have it set for 5 watts, it will show LP; if you have 
set 12 watts, it will say HP.

73, Ken K3IU
~~
On 4/7/2014 9:30 AM, Ed G wrote:

Folks,
  While attempting to do a K3 wattmeter calibration, I go into the CONFIG
menu.  However, I only see WMTR MW and I cannot select any other power
settings, such as LP or HP.  I ten checked to make sure the TECH MODE is on.
Going to that entry, I see Funct ion which I assume is On.  However, I
cannot get this entry to turn off; when I rotate the main knob the setting
does not alternate between on and off...it always stays on.

1.  How do I get into the wattmeter settings if tech mode is already on?
2.  and how do I turn tech mode off after I am done with wattmeter
calibration?

Thanks for any hints.

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[Elecraft] WTB: K3

[Tim Cook]

Anyone have a recent K3 for sale? Will consider any configuration as well as
a P3.

Prefer to pay by PayPal.

Please include details such as serial number, options, mods and price
shipped to zip 45324 in response.

Must be from a non-smoking environment.

Thanks 

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Re: [Elecraft] Previous rig for sale here...

[David Cole]

No kidding on that!  I had tagged it in my head as a fraud, and I know
the fellow!  Easy to do, and as you said, in today's market all too
often happening.
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On Mon, 2014-04-07 at 07:24 -0700, AA6VO wrote:
 Tell Greg to repost the ad giving his contact info (email, phone). He
 should spell it phonetically so a bot cannot pick it up. Also include his
 fathers call sign to add credibility. Also, to help make a sale, he should
 have pictures available on another site or by email.
 
 Sadly there are many folks committing Internet fraud, and the savvy users
 on this reflector are just trying to help prevent a ripoff.
 
 Steve  AA6VO
 
 On Monday, April 7, 2014, David Cole [via Elecraft] 
 ml-node+s365791n7586767...@n2.nabble.com wrote:
 
  Hello all,
 
  Previously there was a K3 for sale here, and a question was brought up
  as to the validity of the seller.  This was the rig with the son selling
  for his father.  The son was out of the US when he posted the ad on
  Craig's list, which is why it showed as not from the US.  The father's
  health is failing, and he is moving to be closer to his children.
 
  As it turns out I know the Father, (we worked together in MARS for a
  number of years), so I drove up to look at the rig, and to say hello to
  an old friend whom I had lost contact with.  The rig and owner live in
  Salem Oregon, and I live in Eugene, Oregon, so the drive was only about
  70 or so miles.
 
  While the radio was not the one I wanted, the seller is real, and the
  rig is in 7 or 8 out of 10 for physical condition, no visible scratches,
  but the new look is gone.  It seemed to work, I am very new at using a
  K3, so all I can say is it powered up, it tuned a few stations, it
  transmitted, and teh ATU looked like it was working.
 
  It has the stock filters, no Sub RX, and the Panadapter's front panel is
  in good shape, with the exception of one cross threaded screw on the
  upper right top as you look at it from the front.  It also has the ATU,
  and the Voice memory.  He has the original receipt for it from Elecraft.
  Beyond that I can not say anything more about working condition. YMMV
 
  Given that you have all been so kind as to allow me to generate a large
  number of posts/questions, and you have all answered every question I
  have asked, I thought this would help to pay some of the kindness back
  to the list by posting the results of my ventures looking at this
  particular K3.
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3-2M module?

[Nr4c]

Don't know about stability but I think I read power more like 2 - 3 watts, at 
least no more than 5. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


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 Has anybody heard anything regarding the timing of the KX3-2M module for the 
 KX3?  Is it still planned for high enough stability for JT65B mode and a 
 maximum power of 10w? TNX and VY 73, Lance*
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3-2M module?

[Dave]

Facebook comes in useful, sometimes...

Just found this on the KX3 friends page.

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Re: [Elecraft] WTB: K3

[AA6VO]

So far in April there have been 3 listed. Search the archives.

Steve AA6VO

On Monday, April 7, 2014, Tim Cook [via Elecraft] 
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 Anyone have a recent K3 for sale? Will consider any configuration as well
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 a P3.

 Prefer to pay by PayPal.

 Please include details such as serial number, options, mods and price
 shipped to zip 45324 in response.

 Must be from a non-smoking environment.

 Thanks

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3-2M module?

[Dave]

Sorry, I just realised that was from May last year!

They don't get many posts on their wall on that Facebook page!!

DAve (G0DJA)

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Facebook comes in useful, sometimes...

Just found this on the KX3 friends page.

http://www.worldwidedx.com/hf-bands-hf-rigs/154636-elecraft-kx3-2-meter-option-preview-pic.html


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3-2M module?

[Ray Sills]

Hi Dave:

It was nice to view that photo, but it appears to be almost a year  
old, which suggests to me that it is one of the prototype units, which  
has been superseded by a board revision, following the original field  
testing.  Nevertheless, I'm sure that the current version in testing  
is quite similar.  After all, the physical constraints for making the  
module fit inside the case have not changed.


73 de Ray
K2ULR
KX3 #211


On Apr 7, 2014, at 11:14 AM, Dave wrote:


Facebook comes in useful, sometimes...

Just found this on the KX3 friends page.

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3-2M module?

[John Lemay]

The answers to some of these questions are on the Elecraft web pages in the
KX3-2m FAQ. Always best to go to the source to avoid conjecture !

John G4ZTR

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Subject: [Elecraft] KX3-2M module?

Has anybody heard anything regarding the timing of the KX3-2M module for the
KX3?  Is 
it still planned for high enough stability for JT65B mode and a maximum
power of 10w? 
TNX and VY 73, Lance*
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[Elecraft] LP Bridge 2 for KX-3

[George Rebong]

Can I use LP Bridge 2 for my KX-3? What RIG should I use to the RIG drop
down selection? There is no KX-3 so can I use K3.

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Re: [Elecraft] Quick Question

[Fred Jensen]

On 4/6/2014 9:16 PM, David Cole wrote:

Does the K3 have a CW keyer memory?  IE., can I program up a CQ TEST, in
one memory, then the 599 00X in the other?



The K3 has two banks of 4 CW message memories each.  They are selectable 
with the M1-M4 buttons on the front panel.  Each will store 250 CW 
characters.  Touching the paddle will kill a message immediately.  You 
can set a memory to repeat [like for a CQ], sending anything with the 
paddle kills the repeat.  The memories are static, you can't 
auto-increment a serial number, however you can program the exchange up 
to the serial number in one memory, then send the number manually, and 
the rest of the exchange from another memory.  To the best of my 
knowledge, there is no control character you can put in your message to 
pause the message so you can insert the number and then continue.


On voice modes and if you have the KDVR3 module, they will store short 
messages which you can record directly from your normal mic.  People 
have told me that they can't tell if it's a canned message or me. :-)


With the DVR option, you can also record and play back from the 
receiver.  It's a 90 sec loop.  I've never used it.


I use N1MM and in SSB contests, I put K3 CAT commands in the N1MM macros 
that emulate tapping M1-M4.  Except for ARRL SS SSB, I usually just use 
it for CQ.  For SS, the exchange is fairly long so I have my precedence, 
call, check, and section in a memory, I give his call and my s/n and 
then hit Enter and the radio gives the rest of the exchange.


I don't use the K3 memories in CW contests, N1MM keys the radio with a 
WinKeyUSB.  If I'm chasing a DX station [CW or SSB], I put my call in M1 
so all I have to do is tape M1 to call.


You can also assign any of the Mx keys to K3 macros in addition to PF1 
and PF2, but doing so means you can't also use them as message memories.


73,

Fred K6DGW
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[Elecraft] Audio Connections to CW Skimmer

[pastormg2]

I have purchased a USB Soundcard to be used in conjunction with my K3 and a 
Toshiba Laptop. I there a way that I can connect the audio from the K3 to the 
Soundcard and also listen to the audio from the internal speaker? Or will I 
have to hook up an external speaker to the Soundcard? Any help would be much 
appreciated. Mark Griffin, KB3Z
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Re: [Elecraft] LP Bridge 2 for KX-3

[Barry LaZar]

Use K3. It will work in any area that you need. However, I find that 
LP-Bridge works better on my system. I've had too many lost connections 
with LPB2.


73,
Barry
K3NDM

On 4/7/2014 11:51 AM, George Rebong wrote:

Can I use LP Bridge 2 for my KX-3? What RIG should I use to the RIG drop
down selection? There is no KX-3 so can I use K3.



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Re: [Elecraft] VK9MT transmit audio distortion.

[Jim Brown]

On 4/7/2014 6:26 AM, K4ia wrote:

Jim

Didn't you mean from chassis of every piece of equipment to ground?  
No daisy-chaining.


No, I meant exactly what I said. The long-standing advice against 
daisy-chaining chassis connections is WRONG. The logic for that advice 
is that a connection forms a loop with the connection to whatever common 
point is chosen, but those who give the bad advice forget that there are 
point-to-point connections between the equipment in the form of coax 
cables, audio cables, serial cables, and control cables. These cables 
form a much larger loop, that results in far greater induced voltages, 
and often the shields of these cables are not even connected to the 
chassis, but to the circuit board inside the gear. That combination 
makes it FAR more likely that a strike will cause lightning damage, both 
because the loop area is greater and the connection is not to the 
chassis. So short chassis-to-chassis bonding combined with a bond from 
one of those chassis to the common point is the safest from a lightning 
safety point of view, because it

minimizes the loop area.

The short chassis-to-chassis connection also minimizes the power 
line-related leakage voltage between equipment that causes hum and buzz 
when we connect that equipment using unbalanced connections.


73, Jim K9YC.
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3-2M module?

[Wayne Burdick]

Lance Collister, W7GJ w...@q.com wrote:

 Has anybody heard anything regarding the timing of the KX3-2M module for the 
 KX3?  Is it still planned for high enough stability for JT65B mode and a 
 maximum power of 10w?

Hi Lance,

I'm not sure where you got that figure. Our postings on this topic are 
summarized in an FAQ (http://www.elecraft.com/manual/KX3-2M%20FAQ.htm).

- Max power is 3 W.

- The module is unlikely to support very narrowband modes, because short-term 
local oscillator excursions at the I.F. (48 MHz) are, in effect, multiplied by 
about 3. FM and AM modes can be used with normal factory temperature 
compensation on 2 m. To use CW/SSB, the extended VFO temperature compensation 
procedure will be required. This level of compensation would also allow the use 
of narrow-shift RTTY. But JT65 and similar modes on 2 meters would probably 
require tighter frequency stability.

73,
Wayne
N6KR



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3-2M module?

[Phil Wheeler]

Read here 
http://www.elecraft.com/manual/KX3-2M%20FAQ.htm


There was probably more info imparted at the 
Visalia DX Convention last weekend but I was not 
there.


73. Phil W7OX

On 4/7/14, 7:25 AM, Lance Collister, W7GJ wrote:

Hi Ray et al,

Many thanks for the status update!  I agree it 
is certainly a good thing to wait and fine tune 
the hardware before officially releasing the 
product, and Elecraft does a great job of 
that.   I will look forward to hearing more next 
month ;-)


I don't operate 2m FM myself, but it would be 
nice to have a backup 2m exciter.  I think if it 
could do 5w in JT65B mode, it should be able to 
drive my solid state amp up enough to bring my 
8877 up to 1500w output on EME.  ;-)  Provided 
it is very stable


VY 73, Lance

On 4/7/2014 2:10 PM, Ray Sills wrote:

HI Lance:

Yours is a frequent inquiry, but you should 
know that there was a redesign of the the 
module's board to address an issue that showed 
up in field testing.  At the moment, the 
replacement version is in field testing, so the 
expectation is that all is now OK, and that 
there should be an announcement very soon.  If 
I were a betting man, I'd wager that Elecraft 
would want to be taking orders at Dayton.


Granted, it does seem like it's taking forever 
to get this item to delivery status, but 
Elecraft has been rigorous about making sure 
that their shipping products are as good as 
they can be. This item is all hardware, so it 
really needs to be just right when it ships.  
With the KX3 itself, there are fixes and 
additions that can be part of a firmware 
revision, but that's not true here.


I'm still on the fence about the 2M module.  
I'm sure it will be good, but at this point, I 
have not been doing any 2M operating, except 
for using my HT with a local club net.  And, I 
don't need the module for that.  I also have an 
FT-817 which works nicely on 2M SSB.. so there 
is very little pressure for me to consider the 
module.  But then... who knows?  :)


73 de Ray
K2ULR
KX3 #211

On Apr 7, 2014, at 9:57 AM, Lance Collister, 
W7GJ wrote:


Has anybody heard anything regarding the 
timing of the KX3-2M module for the KX3?  Is 
it still planned for high enough stability for 
JT65B mode and a maximum power of 10w? TNX and 
VY 73, Lance*

*

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E51SIX, 3D2LR, 5W0GJ, E6M, TX5K)

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Re: [Elecraft] LP Bridge 2 for KX-3

[Jim Bennett]

George - 

I've used LP Bridge and LPB2 with my KX3 #5539. Both appeared to work fine for 
me. I first was doing it on Win/XP on a Mac under VMware Fusion, and now am 
running LPB2 on WIn 8.1 on the same Mac and the current Fusion. And, as Barry 
noted, use the K3 entry - works fine.

Jim / W6JHB


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3-2M module?

[Charlie T, K3ICH]

3 - 4 watts is fine with me on 2M.  I know it'll drive the big TE Systems 
amp to 400 watts out because I could do that with my (long gone) FT-817.



73, Charlie k3ICH




- Original Message - 
From: Lance Collister, W7GJ w...@q.com

To: Ray Sills raysil...@verizon.net
Cc: Elecraft Mailing List elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3-2M module?



Hi Ray et al,

Many thanks for the status update!  I agree it is certainly a good thing 
to wait and fine tune the hardware before officially releasing the 
product, and Elecraft does a great job of that.   I will look forward to 
hearing more next month ;-)


I don't operate 2m FM myself, but it would be nice to have a backup 2m 
exciter.  I think if it could do 5w in JT65B mode, it should be able to 
drive my solid state amp up enough to bring my 8877 up to 1500w output on 
EME.  ;-)  Provided it is very stable


VY 73, Lance

On 4/7/2014 2:10 PM, Ray Sills wrote:

HI Lance:

Yours is a frequent inquiry, but you should know that there was a 
redesign of the the module's board to address an issue that showed up in 
field testing.  At the moment, the replacement version is in field 
testing, so the expectation is that all is now OK, and that there should 
be an announcement very soon.  If I were a betting man, I'd wager that 
Elecraft would want to be taking orders at Dayton.


Granted, it does seem like it's taking forever to get this item to 
delivery status, but Elecraft has been rigorous about making sure that 
their shipping products are as good as they can be.  This item is all 
hardware, so it really needs to be just right when it ships.  With the 
KX3 itself, there are fixes and additions that can be part of a firmware 
revision, but that's not true here.


I'm still on the fence about the 2M module.  I'm sure it will be good, 
but at this point, I have not been doing any 2M operating, except for 
using my HT with a local club net.  And, I don't need the module for 
that.  I also have an FT-817 which works nicely on 2M SSB.. so there is 
very little pressure for me to consider the module.  But then... who 
knows?  :)


73 de Ray
K2ULR
KX3 #211

On Apr 7, 2014, at 9:57 AM, Lance Collister, W7GJ wrote:

Has anybody heard anything regarding the timing of the KX3-2M module for 
the KX3?  Is it still planned for high enough stability for JT65B mode 
and a maximum power of 10w? TNX and VY 73, Lance*

*

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TX5K)

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 commander issue

[Stan Gibbs, KR7C]

Assuming that by Commander you mean DXLab's Commander component, I can't
reproduce any problem with the mode setting running 10.6.9.

I set memory 1 to 20m USB and memory 2 to 40m LSB.  Clicking on the
respective memory buttons correctly restores the frequency and mode.




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Re: [Elecraft] VK9MT transmit audio distortion.

[David Cole]

I run a ground buss across the back of the radio desk, connect all rigs
to that, then connect that buss to a star ground which also goes to a
second bus running across the second level of equipment.  The star then
goes to ground.

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On Mon, 2014-04-07 at 09:35 -0700, Jim Brown wrote:
 On 4/7/2014 6:26 AM, K4ia wrote:
  Jim
 
  Didn't you mean from chassis of every piece of equipment to ground?  
  No daisy-chaining.
 
 No, I meant exactly what I said. The long-standing advice against 
 daisy-chaining chassis connections is WRONG. The logic for that advice 
 is that a connection forms a loop with the connection to whatever common 
 point is chosen, but those who give the bad advice forget that there are 
 point-to-point connections between the equipment in the form of coax 
 cables, audio cables, serial cables, and control cables. These cables 
 form a much larger loop, that results in far greater induced voltages, 
 and often the shields of these cables are not even connected to the 
 chassis, but to the circuit board inside the gear. That combination 
 makes it FAR more likely that a strike will cause lightning damage, both 
 because the loop area is greater and the connection is not to the 
 chassis. So short chassis-to-chassis bonding combined with a bond from 
 one of those chassis to the common point is the safest from a lightning 
 safety point of view, because it
 minimizes the loop area.
 
 The short chassis-to-chassis connection also minimizes the power 
 line-related leakage voltage between equipment that causes hum and buzz 
 when we connect that equipment using unbalanced connections.
 
 73, Jim K9YC.
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 problems after lightning

[Edward R Cole]

I just wanted to offer a few general suggestions.  Do follow Don's 
expert instructions.


A lesson taught me by a fellow bench tech who did not have a lot of 
tech training was to initially open the unit and carefully look over 
the circuit board for obvious burnt items!  Use your nose for burnt 
smell. Touch to find Hot components (carefully). Look for black 
marks indicating arcing.  I can't tell you how well that worked for him!


An approach I used when I had a dead short on the dc power, which 
could be anywhere on the board that the power trace went, 
was:  divide and conquer, meaning try to isolate sections and 
troubleshoot each by itself.  This might require cutting the power 
trace in certain areas (in your case, follow Don's approach as he 
knows these radios intimately...he will tell you if that becomes necessary).


My first step after the look-sniff-touch method is check basic 
performance (radio lamps light-up, makes noise in Rx, keys in 
transmit, shows output power, etc.)  Those symptoms help narrow down 
what to check.  Then get out the multimeter and make resistance and 
voltage checks.  Of course this assumes you have a schematic diagram 
and have the background knowledge to understand it.  If the unit is 
not stable when you apply power then you will have to start out with 
resistance checks and/or isolation methods.


The lightening hit is probably one of the worst as it may have gone 
anywhere in the unit. Hope you are successful in fixing it.


73, Ed - KL7UW
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3-2M module?

[Dave]

I'm hoping to use it with a 24GHz transverter, so I guess I'll be embarking 
on the extended VFO temperature compensation procedure at sometime after 
deciding on whether to purhase the KX3-2M unit.


However, the more I hear and read about the KX3-2M, the more I'm thinking 
that it's not going to be good enough.  I enjoy using CW on 2M and most of 
the contacts on 24GHz will probably be CW as well, but my transverter is not 
GPS locked, so the combination may not work too well.


Dave (G0DJA)

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Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 4:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3-2M module?


- The module is unlikely to support very narrowband modes, because 
short-term local oscillator excursions at the I.F. (48 MHz) are, in 
effect, multiplied by about 3. FM and AM modes can be used with normal 
factory temperature compensation on 2 m. To use CW/SSB, the extended VFO 
temperature compensation procedure will be required. This level of 
compensation would also allow the use of narrow-shift RTTY. But JT65 and 
similar modes on 2 meters would probably require tighter frequency 
stability.




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[Elecraft] V6 SoftRock Lite-40

[walter renner]

   I have a softrock Lite-40 Kit for sale by Tony (KB9YIG) $5.00 and I mail 
Parcel Post in lower 48.

 

Kurt  - K0ARO
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 problems after lightning

[Fred Jensen]

The easiest radio to repair is one that has had a small fire in one 
corner of the chassis.

Tom, W6AHY (SK)

73,

Fred K6DGW
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- CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014
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PS:  Tom had no eyesight

On 4/7/2014 10:54 AM, Edward R Cole wrote:


A lesson taught me by a fellow bench tech who did not have a lot of tech
training was to initially open the unit and carefully look over the
circuit board for obvious burnt items!  Use your nose for burnt smell.
Touch to find Hot components (carefully). Look for black marks
indicating arcing.  I can't tell you how well that worked for him!



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[Elecraft] V6 SoftRock Lite - 40m

[walter renner]

   
I have a softrock Lite-40 Kit for sale by Tony (KB9YIG) $5.00 and I mail Parcel 
Post in lower 48.

It would help I beleve if I gave you my e-mail address,  
krenner1...@msn.commailto:krenner1...@msn.com

 

Kurt  - K0ARO
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3-2M module?

[Edward R Cole]

Lance,

Wayne recently commented that they had some re-design after the first 
field test round, and were soon to go out with the second field 
test.  I wrote Wayne directly for more info, but have not heard back, 
as yet...I signed-up to be a field tester so am hoping that I may 
have one to test when that happens.


I will be testing it and the KX3 especially looking at use for eme 
and 2m weak-signal operation.  I am lucky to have a couple RFC 2-23 
linear amps (2w input/30w out) which will match up with low power 
level of the 2M module.  That will drive another RFC linear 
(30w/170w) easily to 55w to drive my 8877.  I presently use the 
latter amp so my DEMI transverter can loaf a bit when running JT65 with the K3.


I have the test equipment to measure power and frequency to determine 
performance.  As in the past I will create a webpage to document what 
I find. I have not built a computer I/F for the KX3 so I will just 
simulate JT65 transmit by keydown CW.  I ran a freq. drift test on my 
current line-up by running JT65 for 30-minutes and noting frequency 
drift.  Its documented:

http://www.kl7uw.com/techtopics.htm

73, Ed - KL7UW

From: Lance Collister, W7GJ w...@q.com
To: Ray Sills raysil...@verizon.net
Cc: Elecraft Mailing List elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3-2M module?
Message-ID: 5342b551@q.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Hi Ray et al,

Many thanks for the status update!  I agree it is certainly a good 
thing to wait and
fine tune the hardware before officially releasing the product, and 
Elecraft does a

great job of that.   I will look forward to hearing more next month ;-)

I don't operate 2m FM myself, but it would be nice to have a backup 
2m exciter.  I
think if it could do 5w in JT65B mode, it should be able to drive my 
solid state amp
up enough to bring my 8877 up to 1500w output on EME.  ;-)  Provided 
it is very

stable

VY 73, Lance



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[Elecraft] KX1 Hiss -- question.

[Dave G.]

Yes.. I know this is not K3/KX3 related  but I still use my KX1.  Love it !.
But I don't like the audio hiss when using the wider filter bandwidth.

I did some reading of the LM386 data sheet..

Question: If I change C22 from a 0.01 to a 0.02, will that decrease
the upper end of the LM386 filtering?

Alternatively; Has anyone done any mode to improve this?

Thanks

Dave G.KK7SS
Richland, WA.
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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 Hiss -- question.

[Dave G.]

*mode* should read 'mods'

Dave G.KK7SS
Richland, WA.


On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Dave G. d3j...@gmail.com wrote:

 Question: If I change C22 from a 0.01 to a 0.02, will that decrease
 the upper end of the LM386 filtering?

 Alternatively; Has anyone done any mode to improve this?
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Re: [Elecraft] VK9MT transmit audio distortion.

[AG0N-3055]

 So short chassis-to-chassis bonding combined with a bond from 
 one of those chassis to the common point is the safest from a lightning 
 safety point of view, because it
 minimizes the loop area.

You've got a good point, Jim.  However, I would prefer a combination of
both methods.  I'd run a (good low reactance) buss, AND another to the
grounding point from each buss attachment point on each unit.  Your
point about all of the ins and outs on this stuff leaves plenty of room
for loops.  Also, any time storms approach, I pull the USB ports.  They
seem to be sensitive to such damage.

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Re: [Elecraft] Audio Connections to CW Skimmer

[Nr4c]

Use line-out to go to skimmer. Do anything you want with speaker(s) and phones. 

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 On Apr 7, 2014, at 12:23 PM, pastor...@verizon.net wrote:
 
 I have purchased a USB Soundcard to be used in conjunction with my K3 and a 
 Toshiba Laptop. I there a way that I can connect the audio from the K3 to the 
 Soundcard and also listen to the audio from the internal speaker? Or will I 
 have to hook up an external speaker to the Soundcard? Any help would be much 
 appreciated. Mark Griffin, KB3Z
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Re: [Elecraft] VK9MT transmit audio distortion.

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

 Also, any time storms approach, I pull the USB ports.  They
 seem to be sensitive to such damage.

They would not be if you include the computer in the short, fat
ground bus.  The problem is that many computers do not provide
a reasonable ground connection ... the only ground is via the
power supply return to the third wire of the power cord (if it
even exists).  Many amateurs do not properly bond their tower and
RF ground to the power line entry ground (as required by NEC)
which allows the computer and rig to float separately in event
of a storm.

All it takes is for the rig/interface to go more that 7 or 8 volts
more positive than the computer or more than about 0.5V more negative
than the computer and the USB interface is over or reverse voltage
and poof goes the USB port.  Better devices now contain external
protectors - diodes that clamp the power supply and data lines
relative to circuit common but they still have limited capacity in
event of a strong, nearby lightning strike.

While the USB or serial port (particularly low power serial ports
designed with 3.3 or 5V logic) may be especially sensitive to the
separate ground issue, failing to bond the tower/RF ground to the
power line entrance is a significant issue of safety for your house
and *all* devices connected to the power distribution system.  With
separate grounds, a direct strike can force several *thousand* amps
between the two grounds via the safety ground (third wire)
connection.  The result can be massive damage to appliances and even
serious house fire.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 4/7/2014 2:58 PM, AG0N-3055 wrote:



So short chassis-to-chassis bonding combined with a bond from
one of those chassis to the common point is the safest from a lightning
safety point of view, because it
minimizes the loop area.


You've got a good point, Jim.  However, I would prefer a combination of
both methods.  I'd run a (good low reactance) buss, AND another to the
grounding point from each buss attachment point on each unit.  Your
point about all of the ins and outs on this stuff leaves plenty of room
for loops.  Also, any time storms approach, I pull the USB ports.  They
seem to be sensitive to such damage.

Gary


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[Elecraft] The Final Build and order for K3

[David Cole]

Hello all,

Many thanks to all that answered my many questions, and gave a new
person a hand in understanding a new rig.  

I have decided to order a new rig based on what was said here, about a
30 minute conversations with a fellow named Dave at Elecraft, and that
eham gives it a 4.9 rating, which is hard to get there...  I tend to
take eham reviews with a grain of salt, but darned few radios get 4.9
there.

If I missed sending anyone a thank you note, please forgive me, the
number of answers I got was phenomenal, and I think I got everyone, but
is would have been easy to miss someone.  So thanks to all for your help
in this.  It made spending 5K almost fun...  Almost...  :)

Here is the final build as I will order it as soon as Dave from Elecraft
returns my MARS modification call.  I don't know if he gets commission,
but I want to be sure to order through the fellow that helped me there
at Elecraft.

Final Build:

Radio:
K3/100-FK3 basic radio 100W version
KAT3-F  K3 ATU unit
KBPF3   K3 General coverage RX module for main radio
KRX3-F  K3 second rx
KBPF3   K3 General coverage RX module for sub radio.
I am a MARS member, and want General coverage on both
KDVR3   Voice memory unit

Filters:
KFL3A-400   One for each radio, main and sub
KFL3B-FMFM Filter for main radio
FILTER  Stock 2.7 KHz for both radios, main and sub

Misc:
P3-FPanadapter
KXV3A   K3 RX Ant, IF Out  Xvertr Interface
KUSBFactory USB cable.

Why two KBPF3's:
Someone had mentioned that I probably did not need the second KBPF3, and
for the most part that person was correct, but for my MARS operations...
I do some very odd splits sometimes, sometimes neither side being in the
ham bands, so the second RX was needed.

Filters:
During these entire process I had to tell myself these are roofing
filters-- remember, these are roofing filters-- these are not bandpass
filters these are not band pass filters...  Remember...  

Many people pointed that out to me, and for that I am thankful, you all
saved me a few bucks...

I spoke to Dave at Elecraft, and he indicated that adding filters later
should not pose a major issue for me, based on my experience.  That
said, I can order filters later, and probably will, as I need them, or
discover I wish I had ordered them to start with.  Remember, these are
roofing filters...

I ordered the FM Filter as opposed to the AM filter, because it is a
roofing filter, and several folks suggested it as it lets me do AM and
FM, as opposed to if I ordered just the AM filter.  I would then need
the FM filter later, if I did FM.  This allows both modes with one
filter.

USB Cable:
I ordered the cable from Elecraft because I trust they have done testing
and clearance of this cable, and that it will work.  I am running Linux
as my major OS, and I can not say enough to thank the folks at Elecraft
for including the utility program for Linux users...

Panadapter :
I can't imagine a radio without an Panadapter anymore...  The thought is
abhorrent to me.

Again, many thanks to all for your help in this!!  I would feel as
confident I ordered correctly if it had not been for this mail list, and
the kind users on it.

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Re: [Elecraft] VK9MT transmit audio distortion.

[Jim Brown]

On 4/7/2014 12:19 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

They would not be if you include the computer in the short, fat
ground bus. 


Exactly. When we say everything, we mean EVERYTHING that is connected 
in any way with the gear.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] The Final Build and order for K3

[David Cole]

Rig is ordered!
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On Mon, 2014-04-07 at 12:44 -0700, David Cole wrote:
 Hello all,
 
 Many thanks to all that answered my many questions, and gave a new
 person a hand in understanding a new rig.  
 
 I have decided to order a new rig based on what was said here, about a
 30 minute conversations with a fellow named Dave at Elecraft, and that
 eham gives it a 4.9 rating, which is hard to get there...  I tend to
 take eham reviews with a grain of salt, but darned few radios get 4.9
 there.
 
 If I missed sending anyone a thank you note, please forgive me, the
 number of answers I got was phenomenal, and I think I got everyone, but
 is would have been easy to miss someone.  So thanks to all for your help
 in this.  It made spending 5K almost fun...  Almost...  :)
 
 Here is the final build as I will order it as soon as Dave from Elecraft
 returns my MARS modification call.  I don't know if he gets commission,
 but I want to be sure to order through the fellow that helped me there
 at Elecraft.
 
 Final Build:
 
 Radio:
 K3/100-F  K3 basic radio 100W version
 KAT3-FK3 ATU unit
 KBPF3 K3 General coverage RX module for main radio
 KRX3-FK3 second rx
 KBPF3 K3 General coverage RX module for sub radio.
 I am a MARS member, and want General coverage on both
 KDVR3 Voice memory unit
 
 Filters:
 KFL3A-400 One for each radio, main and sub
 KFL3B-FM  FM Filter for main radio
 FILTERStock 2.7 KHz for both radios, main and sub
 
 Misc:
 P3-F  Panadapter
 KXV3A K3 RX Ant, IF Out  Xvertr Interface
 KUSB  Factory USB cable.
 
 Why two KBPF3's:
 Someone had mentioned that I probably did not need the second KBPF3, and
 for the most part that person was correct, but for my MARS operations...
 I do some very odd splits sometimes, sometimes neither side being in the
 ham bands, so the second RX was needed.
 
 Filters:
 During these entire process I had to tell myself these are roofing
 filters-- remember, these are roofing filters-- these are not bandpass
 filters these are not band pass filters...  Remember...  
 
 Many people pointed that out to me, and for that I am thankful, you all
 saved me a few bucks...
 
 I spoke to Dave at Elecraft, and he indicated that adding filters later
 should not pose a major issue for me, based on my experience.  That
 said, I can order filters later, and probably will, as I need them, or
 discover I wish I had ordered them to start with.  Remember, these are
 roofing filters...
 
 I ordered the FM Filter as opposed to the AM filter, because it is a
 roofing filter, and several folks suggested it as it lets me do AM and
 FM, as opposed to if I ordered just the AM filter.  I would then need
 the FM filter later, if I did FM.  This allows both modes with one
 filter.
 
 USB Cable:
 I ordered the cable from Elecraft because I trust they have done testing
 and clearance of this cable, and that it will work.  I am running Linux
 as my major OS, and I can not say enough to thank the folks at Elecraft
 for including the utility program for Linux users...
 
 Panadapter :
 I can't imagine a radio without an Panadapter anymore...  The thought is
 abhorrent to me.
 
 Again, many thanks to all for your help in this!!  I would feel as
 confident I ordered correctly if it had not been for this mail list, and
 the kind users on it.
 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Wattmeter Cal and Tech Mode

[Ed G]

Hi Ken,

 Seems no PWR setting from 0 up to 100 watts makes any difference.  I
only get the WMTR MW screen in the config menu.  I can't get to the LP or
HP screens to make any adjustments.  Tech Mode is turned on.

--Ed-

 

 

  _  

From: Ken K3IU [mailto:kenk...@cox.net] 
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 10:29 AM
To: Ed G; Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Wattmeter Cal and Tech Mode

 

If memory serves me, you need to have the K3 in the range before the
CONFIG:WMTR will indicate that range, e.g., if you have it set for 5 watts,
it will show LP; if you have set 12 watts, it will say HP.


73, Ken K3IU






 
 



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Wattmeter Cal and Tech Mode

[Bruce Beford]

Ed,
This seems to indicate the KXV3 menu setting is set to TEST. See the
calibration procedure on pg 49 of the K3 manual, under 1.0 milliwatt meter
calibration. Set the COBFIG:KXV3 menu entry to NOR  (or Not Inst, if you
don't have the KXV3 or 3A), and you should be able to proceed with the LP
and HP calibrations.

GL,
Bruce N1RX

  Seems no PWR setting from 0 up to 100 watts makes any difference.  I
 only get the WMTR MW screen in the config menu.  I can't get to the LP 
 or HP screens to make any adjustments.  Tech Mode is turned on.



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Re: [Elecraft] The Final Build and order for K3

[George Thornton]

I would have only one word of caution with respect to filters.

Replacing filters with a single receiver unit is fairly easy.  However, the 
process is more tricky when you have a sub receiver involved.

I personally found the sub receiver unit very tricky to install.  The 
clearances are tight and it was very hard for me to see if things were aligned 
correctly.  There are also a lot of tricky cable connections.Although I 
have built several Elecraft kits I still don't feel comfortable removing or 
installing the sub receiver unit.  

To change any filters you have to pull the sub Rx unit.  

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David Cole
Sent: Monday, April 7, 2014 1:57 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] The Final Build and order for K3

Rig is ordered!
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On Mon, 2014-04-07 at 12:44 -0700, David Cole wrote:
 Hello all,
 
 Many thanks to all that answered my many questions, and gave a new 
 person a hand in understanding a new rig.
 
 I have decided to order a new rig based on what was said here, about a
 30 minute conversations with a fellow named Dave at Elecraft, and that 
 eham gives it a 4.9 rating, which is hard to get there...  I tend to 
 take eham reviews with a grain of salt, but darned few radios get 4.9 
 there.
 
 If I missed sending anyone a thank you note, please forgive me, the 
 number of answers I got was phenomenal, and I think I got everyone, 
 but is would have been easy to miss someone.  So thanks to all for 
 your help in this.  It made spending 5K almost fun...  Almost...  :)
 
 Here is the final build as I will order it as soon as Dave from 
 Elecraft returns my MARS modification call.  I don't know if he gets 
 commission, but I want to be sure to order through the fellow that 
 helped me there at Elecraft.
 
 Final Build:
 
 Radio:
 K3/100-F  K3 basic radio 100W version
 KAT3-FK3 ATU unit
 KBPF3 K3 General coverage RX module for main radio
 KRX3-FK3 second rx
 KBPF3 K3 General coverage RX module for sub radio.
 I am a MARS member, and want General coverage on both
 KDVR3 Voice memory unit
 
 Filters:
 KFL3A-400 One for each radio, main and sub
 KFL3B-FM  FM Filter for main radio
 FILTERStock 2.7 KHz for both radios, main and sub
 
 Misc:
 P3-F  Panadapter
 KXV3A K3 RX Ant, IF Out  Xvertr Interface
 KUSB  Factory USB cable.
 
 Why two KBPF3's:
 Someone had mentioned that I probably did not need the second KBPF3, 
 and for the most part that person was correct, but for my MARS operations...
 I do some very odd splits sometimes, sometimes neither side being in 
 the ham bands, so the second RX was needed.
 
 Filters:
 During these entire process I had to tell myself these are roofing
 filters-- remember, these are roofing filters-- these are not bandpass 
 filters these are not band pass filters...  Remember...
 
 Many people pointed that out to me, and for that I am thankful, you 
 all saved me a few bucks...
 
 I spoke to Dave at Elecraft, and he indicated that adding filters 
 later should not pose a major issue for me, based on my experience.  
 That said, I can order filters later, and probably will, as I need 
 them, or discover I wish I had ordered them to start with.  Remember, 
 these are roofing filters...
 
 I ordered the FM Filter as opposed to the AM filter, because it is a 
 roofing filter, and several folks suggested it as it lets me do AM and 
 FM, as opposed to if I ordered just the AM filter.  I would then need 
 the FM filter later, if I did FM.  This allows both modes with one 
 filter.
 
 USB Cable:
 I ordered the cable from Elecraft because I trust they have done 
 testing and clearance of this cable, and that it will work.  I am 
 running Linux as my major OS, and I can not say enough to thank the 
 folks at Elecraft for including the utility program for Linux users...
 
 Panadapter :
 I can't imagine a radio without an Panadapter anymore...  The thought 
 is abhorrent to me.
 
 Again, many thanks to all for your help in this!!  I would feel as 
 confident I ordered correctly if it had not been for this mail list, 
 and the kind users on it.
 

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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Report from the International DX Convention in Visalia, CA - clarification

[Jim Lowman]

Gang, I've had a few private comments about the Navassa DXpeditions, so 
I thought that I would clarify the issue.


The presentation was about the Navassa DXpeditions of 1978 and 1992; not 
anything recent.


Permission to land on the island has passed from the Coast Guard to the 
Fish  Wildlife Service.  The presenters emphasized that we should allow 
them to continue to pursue permission with the contacts that they have 
established.  In other words, let's not write our congressional 
representatives or any other public official in the meantime.


I hope that this clarifies the issue.  My apologies for any 
misunderstanding.


72/73 de Jim - AD6CW
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[Elecraft] P3/K3 spurry

[stephen pearce]

Hi

My P3/K3 combination (with pa and atu) seems to have developed a big spurry
on the spectral display of the P3 which sits around
the mid point of the display (the tuned frequency) .. it is initially (on
turn on) worse and gradually subsides as things warm up (I presume)
though never goes away entirely. It didn't used to be there .. and I wonder
if it has been observed and trouble shotted in another system.
It doesn't seem to produce any noticable interference on the audio but it
does make it difficult to id signal on the spectral display.

73s
de
zl1any

-- 
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Critical Care
Whangarei
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Re: [Elecraft] P3/K3 spurry

[Phil Wheeler]

No such thing here with same equipment.

Best take a digital shot of the screen and send it 
to Elecraft.


73, Phil W7OX

On 4/7/14, 4:55 PM, stephen pearce wrote:

Hi

My P3/K3 combination (with pa and atu) seems to have developed a big spurry
on the spectral display of the P3 which sits around
the mid point of the display (the tuned frequency) .. it is initially (on
turn on) worse and gradually subsides as things warm up (I presume)
though never goes away entirely. It didn't used to be there .. and I wonder
if it has been observed and trouble shotted in another system.
It doesn't seem to produce any noticable interference on the audio but it
does make it difficult to id signal on the spectral display.

73s
de
zl1any



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Re: [Elecraft] The Final Build and order for K3

[Dr. William J. Schmidt, II]

So the conclusion is... have a plan:  think the usage of the filters
through... install them once and be happy.


Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ / J68HZ/ 8P6HK/ ZF2HZ/ PJ4HZ/ VP5HZ
 
Owner - Operator
Big Signal Ranch
Staunton, Illinois
 
email:  b...@wjschmidt.com

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of George Thornton
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 5:45 PM
To: d...@nk7z.net; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] The Final Build and order for K3

I would have only one word of caution with respect to filters.

Replacing filters with a single receiver unit is fairly easy.  However, the
process is more tricky when you have a sub receiver involved.

I personally found the sub receiver unit very tricky to install.  The
clearances are tight and it was very hard for me to see if things were
aligned correctly.  There are also a lot of tricky cable connections.
Although I have built several Elecraft kits I still don't feel comfortable
removing or installing the sub receiver unit.  

To change any filters you have to pull the sub Rx unit.  



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[Elecraft] another use of dual receivers in K3

[Johnny Siu]

Hello Group,

During the recent SPDX contest, I used both receivers in K3 (i.e. main + KRX3) 
to listen to the same frequency with main antenna (i.e. the ANT for sub 
receiver is also MAIN).  I set both VFO A  B LINKed.  It appears that I could 
copy the signal more easier from my ears.  Of course, sometimes, I had to 
balance the audio from the two receivers.  Overall, the listening comfort is 
better than just using one receiver.

Did any of you try this?  Do you also feel signal copying is easier?  Any 
experience?

73

Johnny VR2XMC
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[Elecraft] Line Out Jack

[pastormg2]

Hi, 
This is Mark Griffin, KB3Z. Does anyone know the size phono plug that I would 
need for the Line Out Jack in the back of the K3? I think it is 1/8 but I am 
not sure. Thanks for your help! Mark

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Re: [Elecraft] Line Out Jack

[Fred Jensen]

I think mine are 3.5 mm, I don't have a metric stick handy right now, 
they work fine.  If it becomes a big issue, I'll get the micrometer out 
tomorrow.


73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014
- www.cqp.org

On 4/7/2014 5:47 PM, pastor...@verizon.net wrote:

Hi, This is Mark Griffin, KB3Z. Does anyone know the size phono plug
that I would need for the Line Out Jack in the back of the K3? I
think it is 1/8 but I am not sure. Thanks for your help! Mark


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Re: [Elecraft] Line Out Jack

[Brian Hunt]

There was a long thread on this recently. Essentially modern 3.5 mm plugs and 
1/8 inch plugs are the same thing. Neither are exactly the dimensions given but 
both will work in the intended jack. 

The K3 manual (p 8) lists 1/8 inch for the rear jacks. Note:  All plugs should 
be stereo type. 

73,
Brian, K0DTJ

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Re: [Elecraft] Line Out Jack

[Don Wilhelm]

3.5mm and 1/8 inch are now the same thing - one place calls them 3.5mm 
while others use the 1/8 inch designation for the same thing.


Yes, it was not always so, but that was well before stereo plugs and 
jacks came into existence.
The big issue now is manufacturing tolerances that might mean some jack 
and plug combinations are tight while other combinations may appear to 
be sloppy.


1/4 inch plugs and jacks are more tolerant of sloppy tolerances i.e +/- 
0.01 mm compared to 3.5mm is much greater than +/- 0.01 mm compared to 7 
mm (or is it 8mm?).


73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/7/2014 9:32 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
I think mine are 3.5 mm, I don't have a metric stick handy right now, 
they work fine.  If it becomes a big issue, I'll get the micrometer 
out tomorrow.




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Re: [Elecraft] Anti Static Mats

[Fred Townsend]

That would mean the part was charged. How would that happen?


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if you put a sensitive part
on a something that conducts
well then you get a static
discharge and damage.
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Re: [Elecraft] Anti Static Mats

[Alan Bloom]

The human body can store quite a bit of charge.  When you lay a part on 
a conductive surface, charge flows between your body and the surface, 
through the part.


That's why (if you don't have an anti-static mat and wrist strap) you 
should always touch the chassis, PC board, whatever with your other hand 
before placing a part on it.


Alan N1AL


On 04/07/2014 09:47 PM, Fred Townsend wrote:

That would mean the part was charged. How would that happen?


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Sent: Apr 7, 2014 5:23 AM
To: Alan Bloom n...@sonic.net
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Anti Static Mats

if you put a sensitive part
on a something that conducts
well then you get a static
discharge and damage.
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Re: [Elecraft] Anti Static Mats

[Don Wilhelm]

When one touches it, a charge is developed - then when it comes in 
contact with a fully conducting surface, damage can occur.  If instead 
you are working on a proper anti-static mat, the charge from your body 
and the part is dissipated slowly, no damage will be done and everything 
will be at the same potential.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/8/2014 12:47 AM, Fred Townsend wrote:

That would mean the part was charged. How would that happen?





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