[Elecraft] K3/0 mini remote head

2015-02-15 Thread Viggo Magnus Nilsen
Hello Elecraft users.

I have an brand new K3/0-mini ,  used with the Remoterig system to work my K3  
at my ''summer qth'', I have som problems with the ''mini'', it often run in 
TERM mode ( when POWER ON), audio stream from K3 at the remote site, but 
display do not respond, also other things stop like meny entry etc
When I reload the firmware its up and go again. but unstable.

Pse let me know from you if some had/has problems similar to mine or other 
things with your K3/0-mini...

73' Viggo  LA9NEA
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Re: [Elecraft] My KAT500 seems very sensitive to common mode RFI

2015-02-15 Thread MontyS
I echo Don's comment.  My MC-60 mic used to be very sensitive to RF in the 
shack and my monitor used to click on and off,  until I placed common mode 
chokes on the coax leaving the antenna tuner, and on the coax feeding a 
balun outside the shack. (Antenna is an open-wire-fed 80 meter doublet.) I 
no longer have any discernible RF problems, save for my amplified audio 
getting a weak buzz when transmitting high power - and that's probably from 
radiated RF, not common mode.  I have no other chokes on other cables.


Monty K2DLJ

Jeff and all,

I see many hams reporting placing common mode chokes on AC lines, DC
lines, AUX cables and other lines in the shack.

I am of the opinion that the proper use of common mode chokes is on the
antenna feedlines. 


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Re: [Elecraft] My KAT500 seems very sensitive to common mode RFI

2015-02-15 Thread Michael Walker
To re-enforce what has been said already, I read the Contest Clipper Club
report and then a few others, and to summarize, here is what I found:


   - I ordered a few dozen Mix 43 and Mix 31 chokes online.  I think I
   ordered 24 of each type and used the model numbers in the CCC document I
   quoted earlier.
   - I solved RF feedback issues (like bad SWR readings) but choking
   feedlines.  This was really apparent in the mobile when the screwdriver
   would never seem to resolve turning on 40m.  Once I choked the control line
   and the feedline, the antenna has never worked better.
   - Next was receiving.  I had to start choking things in the station and
   around the station.  I made good use the FT817 and the break panel to see
   what noises disappeared as I started to flip breakers in the house.

I'm a believer in the right choke for both receiving issues and
transmitting issues.  I also believe that it is even more critical than a
good ground.

Mike va3mw


On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 6:31 AM, MontyS mon...@mindspring.com wrote:

 I echo Don's comment.  My MC-60 mic used to be very sensitive to RF in the
 shack and my monitor used to click on and off,  until I placed common mode
 chokes on the coax leaving the antenna tuner, and on the coax feeding a
 balun outside the shack. (Antenna is an open-wire-fed 80 meter doublet.) I
 no longer have any discernible RF problems, save for my amplified audio
 getting a weak buzz when transmitting high power - and that's probably from
 radiated RF, not common mode.  I have no other chokes on other cables.

 Monty K2DLJ

 Jeff and all,

 I see many hams reporting placing common mode chokes on AC lines, DC
 lines, AUX cables and other lines in the shack.

 I am of the opinion that the proper use of common mode chokes is on the
 antenna feedlines.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta 5r10 and LINK

2015-02-15 Thread Mike Reublin NF4L
I really do.

73, Mike NF4L

 On Feb 15, 2015, at 9:55 AM, brian als...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 
 Question: does anybody really use XFIL?
 Perhaps relocation of diversity there makes more sense.
 
 73 de Brian/K3KO
 On 2/15/2015 14:48 PM, Arie Kleingeld PA3A wrote:
 Wayne,
 
 Please do not take out LINK. I'm using it a lot in contests and in 
 DXpedition work
 
 Just to give you and others the idea:
 With both main and sub RX's on the same freq, mode  and BW  I link them with 
 LINK.
 But here comes the fun part. When working with the N1MM logger I use F9-F12 
 to quickly command the audio from the K3 main and sub:
 - F9 = listen A-B
 - F10 = listen A-A
 - F11 = listen B-B
 - F12 contains the commands to copy VFO freq and mode from A to B and LINK 
 the VFO's.
 
 This unique flexibility of the K3 is impossible in the DIVERSITY mode.
 so P L E A S E , keep LINK in there.
 
 73
 Arie PA3A
 
 Wayne Burdick schreef op 15-2-2015 om 5:04:
 Mike (et al),
 
 It's beta, experimental, subject to further revision. We took the original 
 dual-PB out based on earlier feedback suggesting no one was using it (same 
 with LINK). APF, in contrast, has been hugely popular. But with this input, 
 we'll reconsider.
 
 Thanks,
 Wayne
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] General coverage hijacks ham band

2015-02-15 Thread Charlie T, K3ICH
With all the major players  (BBC, Deutsche Welle) dropping off Short-Wave, 
what's left to listen to?  Years ago it used to be fun, but unless you're 
into 3rd world or religious radio ( Not that there's anything wrong with 
that.),  the choices are few.


I hear that even the low freq Euro broadcasts (153, 162, 171 kHz etc.) 
aren't long for this world either.  Can you imagine the electric bill to 
keep a 2 Mega-Watt LF station on the air?


73, Charlie k3ICH


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To: Bill Frantz fra...@pwpconsult.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] General coverage hijacks ham band



I actually like that was the best (adding bands between the Ham bands)
I have a Flex-1500 and it pretty much works like that, and even has a 
separate WWV band button.
I like to listen to SW and the way it is now I have to do a cleanup when 
I'm done.





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Re: [Elecraft] Beta 5r10

2015-02-15 Thread Mike K2MK
Hi Mike,

I don't have Beta 5r10 so I'm a little confused by the comments in your post
and the subsequent posts. I use Dual PB all of the time for RTTY. Is it
still fully functional in RTTY?

73,
Mike K2MK


Mike Harris-9 wrote
 G'day,
 
 Just installed Beta 5r10.  What a dreadful shame that the Dual PB 
 context/focus mode has been done away with.  I used it a lot whilst 
 tuning up the band SP handing out points in CW contests.  Nice and 
 smooth, easy listening, gently alerting you to the next signal in line. 
   The APF sounds ghastly, always seemingly on the edge of  ringing.
 
 Backwards step, sorry.
 Regards,
 Mike VP8NO





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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta 5r10 and LINK

2015-02-15 Thread N2TK, Tony
Hi Arie,
I am not sure I understand what LINK does to help when both receivers are on
the same freq. What does F9-F12 below do to help?
Tnx
N2TK, Tony

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Kleingeld PA3A
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 9:48 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; Wayne Burdick
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Beta 5r10 and LINK

Wayne,

Please do not take out LINK. I'm using it a lot in contests and in
DXpedition work

Just to give you and others the idea:
With both main and sub RX's on the same freq, mode  and BW  I link them with
LINK.
But here comes the fun part. When working with the N1MM logger I use
F9-F12 to quickly command the audio from the K3 main and sub:
- F9 = listen A-B
- F10 = listen A-A
- F11 = listen B-B
- F12 contains the commands to copy VFO freq and mode from A to B and LINK
the VFO's.

This unique flexibility of the K3 is impossible in the DIVERSITY mode.
so P L E A S E , keep LINK in there.

73
Arie PA3A

Wayne Burdick schreef op 15-2-2015 om 5:04:
 Mike (et al),

 It's beta, experimental, subject to further revision. We took the original
dual-PB out based on earlier feedback suggesting no one was using it (same
with LINK). APF, in contrast, has been hugely popular. But with this input,
we'll reconsider.

 Thanks,
 Wayne



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta 5r10 and LINK

2015-02-15 Thread brian

Question: does anybody really use XFIL?
Perhaps relocation of diversity there makes more sense.

73 de Brian/K3KO
On 2/15/2015 14:48 PM, Arie Kleingeld PA3A wrote:

Wayne,

Please do not take out LINK. I'm using it a lot in contests and in 
DXpedition work


Just to give you and others the idea:
With both main and sub RX's on the same freq, mode  and BW  I link 
them with LINK.
But here comes the fun part. When working with the N1MM logger I use 
F9-F12 to quickly command the audio from the K3 main and sub:

- F9 = listen A-B
- F10 = listen A-A
- F11 = listen B-B
- F12 contains the commands to copy VFO freq and mode from A to B and 
LINK the VFO's.


This unique flexibility of the K3 is impossible in the DIVERSITY mode.
so P L E A S E , keep LINK in there.

73
Arie PA3A

Wayne Burdick schreef op 15-2-2015 om 5:04:

Mike (et al),

It's beta, experimental, subject to further revision. We took the 
original dual-PB out based on earlier feedback suggesting no one was 
using it (same with LINK). APF, in contrast, has been hugely popular. 
But with this input, we'll reconsider.


Thanks,
Wayne




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Re: [Elecraft] *****POSSIBLE SPAM***** Re: *****POSSIBLE SPAM***** Re: [K3] General coverage hijacks ham band

2015-02-15 Thread d...@lightstream.net
Hi Matt,

Wow, you've really thought this through, and I appreciate the ideas.

I didn't mean to infer that this is a big deal to me. I probably venture
out of the ham bands maybe once every 2 or 3 years for about 15 minutes,
usually trying to determine the character of a neighborhood noise source.

However, after ordering a pair of the new KSYN3A boards, it occurred to me
that it might be interesting to explore some of the VLF frequencies using
the Pixel loop, and in playing around I re-discovered this scenario.

I actually do use the MV+# memory band switching method, along with the
per-band MV+M[1-4] memories to provide some band-stacking functionality
within bands, and all of that works extremely well and is very fast. The
only time there's a problem is when I tap the Band buttons on the KPA500
or use the Band up/down button on the K3.

So, none of this is really an issue. I just wanted to be sure that I
wasn't missing a simple or obvious-to-someone-else solution.

Thank you again!

73, Dale
WA8SRA





 Hi again Dale,

 I'm not taking a position, just reporting how the K3 works now.  Maybe
 that was obvious, maybe not.

 With many Amateur transceivers that allow receive outside the ham
 bands, the VFO always initializes to the last frequency dialed in. The
 only non-Elecraft example I have here is an old 1996-era JRC-245, but
 I've observed that same behavior with many others.  The K3 is
 consistent in its behavior with most other transceivers.

 From what you've written, it looks like the BAND up/down control is
 really the problem.  This is the reason I used (to myself) for the MV
 switch and using memories to control initial ham band entry after
 tuning around outside.  I do a lot of this, being a Curious George
 type, and also a MARS op and doing occasional SWLing.

 Being objective, I've thought up a few corner cases.  For whatever
 reason, I've become pretty good at this lately.  Try these on:

 1. The op dials past the ham band edge into g/c territory.  In this
 case, make the band edge persistent?  I'm not sure that would be
 correct.  Most ops do not operate near the band edges.  Maybe I'm just
 biased in this way.

 2. The last direct frequency entry was 15.000 MHz.  Would you preserve
 the previous direct frequency entry that was inside the Amateur 20m
 band?  Or the last VFO A frequency?  Or something else (I'm trying to
 use a little imagination, not something I'm great at).

 3. This one would probably work for you.  The op dials into the ham
 band from g/c territory.  I'm pretty sure that what most ops would
 want to persist on VFO A is this last dwell frequency.  That would
 also be consistent with most transceivers' behavior, and what many ops
 would expect.

 4. For MARS operators, SWLers, and other legitimate ops  that
 habitually operate outside the ham bands, their K3s would constantly
 revert to a previous dwell frequency, but only one from inside the
 nearest ham band (hm, the one to which that dwell frequency range is
 assigned).  I think this would tick off the ops wanting to preserve
 the last frequency dialed or keyed in.

 I guess it's a conundrum, or a bit of one at least.  From memory, I
 think there was a Field Tester discussion on this topic long ago. This
 and some hard decisions on the part of Elecraft gave the K3 its
 present behavior.

 Hey - at least the K3's behavior in this regard is 100% consistent!

  :)

 73,
 matt
 W6NIA







 On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 23:08:29 -0500 (EST), you wrote:

Hi Matt,

Thanks for your response. I see that using the memories will tune to the
stored frequency -- but it still hijacks a ham band. I like using the
'Band' button on the KPA500 to band-select the K3, but after selecting a
non-ham band memory, that gets screwed up as well. I don't see a way to
access a G/C frequency without this being the result.

It seems to me that if the ham band slots disallowed frequency
 assignments
outside of their respective bands, that would keep this from happening,
and would be consistent with the K3 being first and foremost a ham-band
receiver.

73, Dale
WA8SRA


 Hi Dale,

 When you're tuning around outside the hand bands, your last dwell
 frequency will be set in the appropriate ham band  For example,
 listening to WWV on 15 MHz, 15.000 will become your VFO A's 20m
 frequency.  That VFO A frequency will persist across a power off / on
 cycle.  This behavior is consistent whether or not your K3 was last
 left in the ham bands.

 I don't know all the frequency limits for which non-ham frequency
 ranges are assigned to which ham bands, but in terms of being
 reasonable they make sense (imho).

 If you combine SWL / general purpose and ham use, I'd suggest using
 memories to keep your common-use frequencies in.  That way, when you
 tap the MV button and dial the memory in, you always get a known
 frequency (either inside or out of the ham bands).  I use this method
 for ham, SWL, and MARS operation and it does seem to work well.

 73,
 matt
 W6NIA


 

[Elecraft] K3 Beta 5r10 and LINK

2015-02-15 Thread Arie Kleingeld PA3A

Wayne,

Please do not take out LINK. I'm using it a lot in contests and in 
DXpedition work


Just to give you and others the idea:
With both main and sub RX's on the same freq, mode  and BW  I link them 
with LINK.
But here comes the fun part. When working with the N1MM logger I use 
F9-F12 to quickly command the audio from the K3 main and sub:

- F9 = listen A-B
- F10 = listen A-A
- F11 = listen B-B
- F12 contains the commands to copy VFO freq and mode from A to B and 
LINK the VFO's.


This unique flexibility of the K3 is impossible in the DIVERSITY mode.
so P L E A S E , keep LINK in there.

73
Arie PA3A

Wayne Burdick schreef op 15-2-2015 om 5:04:

Mike (et al),

It's beta, experimental, subject to further revision. We took the original 
dual-PB out based on earlier feedback suggesting no one was using it (same with 
LINK). APF, in contrast, has been hugely popular. But with this input, we'll 
reconsider.

Thanks,
Wayne




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Re: [Elecraft] Split

2015-02-15 Thread Val

Hi Mike,

I think that actually this is a great feature. The fancy operation 
brings a healthy laugh to the DXers and drives the QRMers crazy as 
there is no single TX frequency :).


73, Val LZ1VB



Hi,

Occasionally DXpeds lose their split setting which causes chaos when 
running a pile. The usual comment is it's a K3 thing.  The question 
is why is it?


I use Logger32 and when I click on a spot whilst in split mode, the 
K3 QSYs and split is cancelled.


At first I thought it was because that Config: SPLT SV was NO so I 
changed it to YES but this didn't make any difference.  Certainly I 
could change band and return and split was indeed saved.


Next I put the K3 in split and then entered a frequency in the same 
band in the L32 log entry window, the K3 QSYed and split cancelled.


Next restored split and entered a frequency from the K3 keypad, 
split stayed on.


OK, looked at what was happening on the com port serving the K3. 
When L32 sends the frequency to the K3 it prefixes it with FR0 which 
according to the programmers reference cancels split mode.  So the 
response of the K3 was to be expected.  A typical example is:


Set Radio Freq/Mode: FR0;0001816;MD2;FA001816;

No idea what other software does in these circumstances.  However, 
if popular DXped software, N1MM or the like does something similar 
it will be easy for a DXped operator to unknowingly and unnoticed 
cancel split and go walkabout whilst tuning the pileup.


Clearly FR0 is a useful command, I use it in an RTTY macro to cancel 
split.  I guess that the L32 development team assume that if you 
enter a QSY you intend to come out of split so include the FR0, 
reasonable I guess for a home operation.  Users of alternative 
applications might wish to conduct the same tests.


The simple answer is better cockpit drill by the DXped operator. 
But even having set up the correct band/mode/filter/antenna etc it 
is still easy to accidentally cancel split under pressure, it's a K3 
thing, is it?


Have I missed something?

Your thoughts please gentlemen,

Mike VP8NO









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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] General coverage hijacks ham band

2015-02-15 Thread Harry Yingst via Elecraft
I actually like that was the best (adding bands between the Ham bands)
I have a Flex-1500 and it pretty much works like that, and even has a separate 
WWV band button.
I like to listen to SW and the way it is now I have to do a cleanup when I'm 
done.



  From: Bill Frantz fra...@pwpconsult.com
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 11:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] General coverage hijacks ham band
   
I suggest adding a band between each ham band. When switching 
away from these bands, the frequencies/modes/etc. would be saved 
in the band and the ones from the new band would be loaded as 
happens now.

These bands would not be accessed with the band up/down switch 
unless enabled using a new menu item, thus avoiding pollution of 
the ham bands with out-of-band frequencies.

One can dream further and have multiple bands between the ham 
bands for SW broadcast, public service etc. One could even 
imagine a WWV band which has all the WWV frequencies in a 
non-contiguous band. I don't really recommend any of these 
frills, but they are fun to think about.

73 Bill AE6JV



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta 5r10 and LINK

2015-02-15 Thread N2TK, Tony
Never
N2TK, Tony

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of brian
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 9:55 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta 5r10 and LINK

Question: does anybody really use XFIL?
Perhaps relocation of diversity there makes more sense.

73 de Brian/K3KO
On 2/15/2015 14:48 PM, Arie Kleingeld PA3A wrote:
 Wayne,

 Please do not take out LINK. I'm using it a lot in contests and in 
 DXpedition work

 Just to give you and others the idea:
 With both main and sub RX's on the same freq, mode  and BW  I link 
 them with LINK.
 But here comes the fun part. When working with the N1MM logger I use
 F9-F12 to quickly command the audio from the K3 main and sub:
 - F9 = listen A-B
 - F10 = listen A-A
 - F11 = listen B-B
 - F12 contains the commands to copy VFO freq and mode from A to B and 
 LINK the VFO's.

 This unique flexibility of the K3 is impossible in the DIVERSITY mode.
 so P L E A S E , keep LINK in there.

 73
 Arie PA3A

 Wayne Burdick schreef op 15-2-2015 om 5:04:
 Mike (et al),

 It's beta, experimental, subject to further revision. We took the 
 original dual-PB out based on earlier feedback suggesting no one was 
 using it (same with LINK). APF, in contrast, has been hugely popular.
 But with this input, we'll reconsider.

 Thanks,
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta 5r10 and LINK

2015-02-15 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


On 2015-02-15 9:55 AM, brian wrote:

Question: does anybody really use XFIL?
Perhaps relocation of diversity there makes more sense.


No, retaining the dual context CW filter and assigning APF to XFIL
and Dual PB to the current DUAL PB function makes more sense.

Leave DIV as SUB Hold as it is in 5.10 and make LINK available
as a programmable function (LN0;/LN1;).   Having LINK as SUB
HOLD and DIV as an extra long hold is/was very difficult from
an ergonomic perspective.

73,

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta 5r10 and LINK

2015-02-15 Thread Kevin Stover

Well...if you don't want it...DON'T BUY IT.
Apparently the K3 has reached the point that the firmware feature set 
has out paced the physical UI.

There aren't enough buttons left to keep all of the current features?

There is a port on the bottom of every K3 that doesn't get used once it 
leaves the factory.
Use that port for an external appliance to add more programmable buttons 
rather than dumping features from the firmware because some overly loud 
minority doesn't use the feature.


If diversity mode is going away why would anybody NEED to buy the second 
RX and filters other than to make running split easier?


The feature set in the K3

On 2/15/2015 10:37 AM, Ken G Kopp wrote:

PLEASE  no pig knob type of device!

It's obvious that the user's desires can't all be met.  The challenge
becomes a case of who gets Wayne's attention.

And I have -no- interest in a bigger radio just to accommodate more knobs.
YAECOMWOOD already has that covered.  (;-)

73

K0PP
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta 5r10 and LINK

2015-02-15 Thread David Cole
I would LOVE to see a Pig Knob type of device for the K3!  No actual
knob looking like a pig, but an external keypad would be wonderful!
Especially if it were a touch screen.
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On Sun, 2015-02-15 at 09:37 -0700, Ken G Kopp wrote:
 PLEASE  no pig knob type of device!
 
 It's obvious that the user's desires can't all be met.  The challenge
 becomes a case of who gets Wayne's attention.
 
 And I have -no- interest in a bigger radio just to accommodate more knobs.
 YAECOMWOOD already has that covered.  (;-)
 
 73
 
 K0PP
 On Feb 15, 2015 9:23 AM, Kevin Stover kevin.sto...@mediacombb.net wrote:
 
  Maybe it's time for Elecraft to provide more buttons on an outboard tuning
  knob/buttons appliance.
  Pig Knob maybe.
 
  On 2/15/2015 10:14 AM, brian wrote:
 
  Joe,
 
  I agree with the last sentence.   From my perspective (never use
  diversity) diversity got in the way and thus what the bad actor. Thus it
  ought to be relocated.
 
  It depends upon how you operate.
 
  Making something available as a programmable function doesn't mean one
  has some programmable button left to place it on.
 
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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement

2015-02-15 Thread Kevin

Good Morning,
   Recently I have started collecting classical music which is in the 
public domain.  My list of Mozart's compositions is over 70 and 
growing.  I have found I can listen to him all day and not get bored.  
Next I'll test Beethoven and Bach and see how they hold up to extended 
listening :)


   Propagation has been good to great recently.  If you can find an 
open spot on the bands with DX dominating you can have a chat until the 
pileup moves over you or the tuners get too bad.  It is amazing how rude 
operators have become since  the Navassa Island expedition started up.  
Hopefully the 40 meter net will not be interrupted again.


  Please join us this afternoon and evening.

14050 kHz at 2300z Sunday (3 PM PST Sunday)
 7045 kHz at 0200z Monday (6 PM PST Sunday)

73,
Kevin. KD5ONS

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[Elecraft] Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread Jim Miller
Elecraft, Please give us a replacement clock chip that will keep time.  An
adjust method for what we have?

 

Thanks, Jim KG0KP

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] General coverage hijacks ham band

2015-02-15 Thread Benny Aumala

Exercise:

FREQ ENT  15 you get VFO A 15.000 but VFO B stay on old freq e.g. 14.125.00
You can tune around 15.000 in general coverage and cycle power OFF / ON.

To return, push A/B to get 14.125.00 to your VFO A.
Then make A and B same pushing A to B switch.

Make this exercise 3 times and you can recover fast and secure.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta 5r10 and LINK

2015-02-15 Thread Arie Kleingeld PA3A

Tony

LINK ties both VFO's to the mail freq dial en keeps them insync when you 
turn the dial knob.

So both receivers keep working on the same freq.

What I often use i diversity listening so with two receivers and two 
antennas on the samen freq.
Diversity puts the main RX audio on the left ear of the headset, and the 
Sub on the right ear. That's the normal situation.
In my case, the F9-F12 buttons in N1MM contain commands to the K3 that 
switch the audio to my liking (that can  also be done in the Config, but 
that takes too much time during QSO) This way I can switch listening 
from diversity (listen both MainRX and SubRX at same time) to only main 
RX (main RX audio on both ears)   or only sub RX (Sub RX audio on both 
ears) depending on where the signal is best.
The commands to do this are in the programmers manual of the K3. It's 
really fun to control some beautiful K3 features from the keyboard like 
this.


73
Arie PA3A




N2TK, Tony schreef op 15-2-2015 om 16:38:

Hi Arie,
I am not sure I understand what LINK does to help when both receivers are on
the same freq. What does F9-F12 below do to help?
Tnx
N2TK, Tony

.

- F9 = listen A-B
- F10 = listen A-A
- F11 = listen B-B
- F12 contains the commands to copy VFO freq and mode from A to B and LINK
the VFO's.




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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta 5r10 and LINK

2015-02-15 Thread Don Wilhelm

Diversity mode is *not* going away.
It is the VFO LINK that is not going to be available at the hold of a 
button.  There are other means to link the VFOs is someone want to do 
that.  Macros can be created to do many things not easily available from 
the K3 buttons.  And then there are loggers that can issue macros, and 
most everyone runs with a logger although there are a some holdouts with 
a paper log.


How many times have we heard on this reflector about a problem because 
VFO B is following VFO A.  I imagine it results in many unnecessary 
customer support calls and emails as well.


IMHO, this thread has become a bit distorted as the result of varied 
opinions.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/15/2015 12:01 PM, Kevin Stover wrote:

Well...if you don't want it...DON'T BUY IT.
Apparently the K3 has reached the point that the firmware feature set 
has out paced the physical UI.

There aren't enough buttons left to keep all of the current features?

There is a port on the bottom of every K3 that doesn't get used once 
it leaves the factory.
Use that port for an external appliance to add more programmable 
buttons rather than dumping features from the firmware because some 
overly loud minority doesn't use the feature.


If diversity mode is going away why would anybody NEED to buy the 
second RX and filters other than to make running split easier?


The feature set in the K3

On 2/15/2015 10:37 AM, Ken G Kopp wrote:

PLEASE  no pig knob type of device!

It's obvious that the user's desires can't all be met.  The challenge
becomes a case of who gets Wayne's attention.

And I have -no- interest in a bigger radio just to accommodate more 
knobs.

YAECOMWOOD already has that covered.  (;-)

73

K0PP
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta 5r10 and LINK

2015-02-15 Thread Kenneth Talbott
I can't help but chuckle.  I learned years ago when software base based
products became popular that YOU CAN NEVER REMOVE A FEATURE ONCE IT HAS BEEN
RELEASED.  There is always someone depending upon it.

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Arie
Kleingeld PA3A
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 9:48 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; Wayne Burdick
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Beta 5r10 and LINK

Wayne,

Please do not take out LINK. I'm using it a lot in contests and in
DXpedition work

Just to give you and others the idea:
With both main and sub RX's on the same freq, mode  and BW  I link them with
LINK.
But here comes 
snip

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Re: [Elecraft] *****POSSIBLE SPAM***** Re: [K3] General coverage hijacks ham band

2015-02-15 Thread Edward R Cole
Never noticed this - probably because I  use memories for selecting 
bands and/or frequencies (MV).  I did that with my FT-847 and 
repeated it with the K3 and KX3.  I have saved to memory one 
frequency for each mode per band.  e.g. 14020  (50CW), 14070(51PSK), 
14095.6(52WSPR), 14205(53SSB),14292(54SSB), 14303.5 (55SSB), ... 
15000(57WWV),...etc


So if I want to operate a particular band/mode I merely MV and 
rotate VFO-A to select.  I rarely use the BAND button.


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta 5r10 and LINK

2015-02-15 Thread Kevin Stover
Maybe it's time for Elecraft to provide more buttons on an outboard 
tuning knob/buttons appliance.

Pig Knob maybe.

On 2/15/2015 10:14 AM, brian wrote:

Joe,

I agree with the last sentence.   From my perspective (never use 
diversity) diversity got in the way and thus what the bad actor. Thus 
it ought to be relocated.


It depends upon how you operate.

Making something available as a programmable function doesn't mean one 
has some programmable button left to place it on.



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[Elecraft] Pig knob thoughts

2015-02-15 Thread Ken G Kopp
If an external knob and button box becomes a reality ...

Maybe some wise soul could determine what functions are used by most of us
and the functions wanted by a relative few could be available on the
external device.

73
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Re: [Elecraft] My KAT500 seems very sensitive to common mode RFI

2015-02-15 Thread Jack Brindle
The W8AMZ is a 1/4 wave vertical with two radials. This means that all of the 
return currents are expected to go through those two wires. Except there is a 
third that is very appealing to the antenna - the coax shield. You might try 
adding more radials. That will distribute the return current among more 
radials, which will also reduce the return current on the outside of the coax. 
In addition, choking at the feed point is very important, as is choking at the 
shack entry point.

Quarter-wave verticals are very difficult to tame when it comes to return 
currents and coax. It is doable, but patience and lots of experimenting are 
required. The reason you see it with high power is quite simply that there is 
more power and the currents are much higher. Remember, the power is the square 
of the current, so the problem goes up exponentially with power. The KAT500 is 
actually no more sensitive than any other ATU to shield current problems, but 
we ask so much more of it than a 150 watt ATU. Getting rid of the shield 
currents before they get to the KAT500 and making sure the SWR on the antenna 
coax going to the KAT is within proper range is vital to keeping everyone happy.

73,

JackB, W6FB


 On Feb 14, 2015, at 6:46 PM, Jeff Hall w...@ymail.com wrote:
 
 I have several turns of the AC adapter cord through two snap on beads.   I 
 don't have anything on the AUX cables at this time, but that is something I 
 should probably check.   I ordered 6 of the Mix 31 Big Clamp toroids from 
 KF7P.  For the 40m vertical I'll place one choke at the feedpoint and see if 
 the problem is resolved.  If not, I'll place another choke at the KAT500.  If 
 I still have a problem, another choke will be placed at the output of the 
 KPA500.  If that still doesn't work, another choke will be placed at the 
 output of the K3.  Once I have suppressed the common mode RF on the vertical, 
 I'll try replacing the string of ferrite beads on my hex beam's coax with a 
 Big Clamp choke at the KAT500.
 -Jeff W6UX 
 
 On Saturday, February 14, 2015 6:25 PM, Harry Yingst hlyin...@yahoo.com 
 wrote:
 
 
 Do you have chokes on the power, AUX, and Serial Cables to the KAT500?
 
 
 
 
 
  From: Jeff Hall w...@ymail.com
 To: Michael Walker va...@portcredit.net; Harry Yingst hlyin...@yahoo.com 
 Cc: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 9:22 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] My KAT500 seems very sensitive to common mode RFI
 
 Thanks everyone for their replies to my problem.  I read Jim Brown's paper 
 this afternoon and have ordered some mix 31 Big Clamps.  I'll try putting one 
 at each end of the 40m coax feedline (RG8X) with the prescribed number of 
 turns.
 -Jeff 
 
 On Saturday, February 14, 2015 4:22 PM, Michael Walker 
 va...@portcredit.net wrote:
 
 
 There are some great articles on common mode chokes
 http://www.yccc.org/Articles/W1HIS/CommonModeChokesW1HIS2006Apr06.pdf
 
 The other is K9YC's cookbook.
 Since I bought a VNA, I have been able to play with the choking value of some 
 random chokes.  Very interesting.
 Mike va3mw
 
 On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft 
 elecraft@mailman.qth.net wrote:
 
 There must be something special about 40 meters and micro-controllers.
 My Aquarium Controller used to do a Reset when I transmitted on 40.The cure 
 for me was to wrap the control cable leads through Some Snap on chokes
 I just installed my KAT500 today and considered taking thepower lead and 
 wrapping it around a snap on choke a few times.
 
 
   From: Jeff Hall, W6UX w...@ymail.com
  To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 12:48 PM
  Subject: [Elecraft] My KAT500 seems very sensitive to common mode RFI
 
 I have a Hex Beam and a 40m wire vertical w/ two elevated radials.  I have 
 been fighting what appears to be a common mode RFI problem which causes the 
 KAT500 to continuously power cycle as long as the K3 is transmitting.  
 Generally this only occurs when driving my KPA500 amp beyond a certain output 
 level which differs for a given band and frequency.  I am powering the KAT500 
 with its own AC adapter.  The problem can occur in both bypass and auto mode.
 
 7-10 ferrite beads on the coax attached to the KAT500 solved the power 
 cycling problem for my hex beam antenna and I successfully operate QRO in 
 bypass mode on all bands and modes.  However the beads did not help with the 
 wire vertical.  I can drive 300w into my dummy load with no ferrite beads on 
 the coax and the KAT500 is fine.
 
 The SWR is low enough I should be able to use these antennas to run the 
 KAT500 in bypass mode.  If I put it in Auto mode the problem is exacerbated.  
 I can tune the wire vertical just fine with the KAT500 in Auto mode at a 
 tuning level of 25w from the K3.  However, if I try to transmit at 5w or more 
 (SSB for example), the KAT500 starts to power cycle.
 
 I have no problem using the wire vertical if it is 

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta 5r10 and LINK

2015-02-15 Thread Ken G Kopp
PLEASE  no pig knob type of device!

It's obvious that the user's desires can't all be met.  The challenge
becomes a case of who gets Wayne's attention.

And I have -no- interest in a bigger radio just to accommodate more knobs.
YAECOMWOOD already has that covered.  (;-)

73

K0PP
On Feb 15, 2015 9:23 AM, Kevin Stover kevin.sto...@mediacombb.net wrote:

 Maybe it's time for Elecraft to provide more buttons on an outboard tuning
 knob/buttons appliance.
 Pig Knob maybe.

 On 2/15/2015 10:14 AM, brian wrote:

 Joe,

 I agree with the last sentence.   From my perspective (never use
 diversity) diversity got in the way and thus what the bad actor. Thus it
 ought to be relocated.

 It depends upon how you operate.

 Making something available as a programmable function doesn't mean one
 has some programmable button left to place it on.

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 FISTS #11993
  SKCC #215
 NAQCC #3441
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta 5r10 and LINK

2015-02-15 Thread dave





On 2/15/15 8:55 AM, brian wrote:

Question: does anybody really use XFIL?


Of course, all the time. It is much better than twisting the knob a 
dozen times.


73 de dave
ab9ca/4




Perhaps relocation of diversity there makes more sense.

73 de Brian/K3KO
On 2/15/2015 14:48 PM, Arie Kleingeld PA3A wrote:

Wayne,

Please do not take out LINK. I'm using it a lot in contests and in
DXpedition work

Just to give you and others the idea:
With both main and sub RX's on the same freq, mode  and BW  I link
them with LINK.
But here comes the fun part. When working with the N1MM logger I use
F9-F12 to quickly command the audio from the K3 main and sub:
- F9 = listen A-B
- F10 = listen A-A
- F11 = listen B-B
- F12 contains the commands to copy VFO freq and mode from A to B
and LINK the VFO's.

This unique flexibility of the K3 is impossible in the DIVERSITY mode.
so P L E A S E , keep LINK in there.

73
Arie PA3A

Wayne Burdick schreef op 15-2-2015 om 5:04:

Mike (et al),

It's beta, experimental, subject to further revision. We took the
original dual-PB out based on earlier feedback suggesting no one
was using it (same with LINK). APF, in contrast, has been hugely
popular. But with this input, we'll reconsider.

Thanks,
Wayne




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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta 5r10 and LINK

2015-02-15 Thread brian

Joe,

I agree with the last sentence.   From my perspective (never use 
diversity) diversity got in the way and thus what the bad actor. Thus it 
ought to be relocated.


It depends upon how you operate.

Making something available as a programmable function doesn't mean one 
has some programmable button left to place it on.


On 2/15/2015 15:07 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:


On 2015-02-15 9:55 AM, brian wrote:

Question: does anybody really use XFIL?
Perhaps relocation of diversity there makes more sense.


No, retaining the dual context CW filter and assigning APF to XFIL
and Dual PB to the current DUAL PB function makes more sense.

Leave DIV as SUB Hold as it is in 5.10 and make LINK available
as a programmable function (LN0;/LN1;).   Having LINK as SUB
HOLD and DIV as an extra long hold is/was very difficult from
an ergonomic perspective.

73,

  ... Joe, W4TV
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta 5r10 and LINK

2015-02-15 Thread John Bastin

On 15 Feb 2015, at 09:55, brian als...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 
 Question: does anybody really use XFIL?

Yes. I would vote YES for keeping XFIL.

73,


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Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread Gary Gregory
I use the utility to set the clock and have done this for 7 years.

About 4 times i reckon.:-)

Gary
Vk1ZZ
K3, KX3, KPA500-FT, KAT500-FT,P3.
On 16/02/2015 9:37 AM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net
wrote:


 Probably had a little program space free way back when.
 I never use the on-board clock though I occasionally reset it via the K3
 utility.
 Perhaps someone could write a little clock set utility that would reset it
 off the PC once a day


   From: Phil Wheeler w...@socal.rr.com
  To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 5:33 PM
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip

 I agree with you, Don re no real use for a clock
 in a radio.

 OTOH, if there is one -- and there is one in the
 K3 -- I'd like it to be at least as accurate as
 the $15 watch I have on my wrist :-)

 I do wonder why there is one at all.

 73, Phil W7OX

 On 2/15/15 1:30 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
  Phil,
 
  I guess I am one of those don't care types much
  of the time :-) .
 
  I have a watch on my wrist - it is used when I
  want to know what time it is.
  I for one have no use for a clock in a radio.
  If I am logging when portable, my watch tells me
  all I need to know and does not take up display
  space on the radio.
  Usually I don't care what time it is unless I
  have an appointment - my stomach tells me when
  it is time to eat.  I am retired, and the work
  that I do is on my own schedule.
 
  I usually know where I am, but if not, I try
  first to consult with a map - can't stand those
  GPS units that tell you what to do and where to
  turn - give me a map where I can see my to and
  from and I can navigate just fine, thank you.
 
  73,
  Don W3FPR
 
  On 2/15/2015 3:04 PM, Phil Kane wrote:
  On 2/15/2015 11:46 AM, bs usb wrote:
 
  Only one problem that I can see.  People who
  don't know where they are
  or what time of day it is are probably not
  interested paying money to
  find out.
  Not so much People who don't know as People
  who don't care to know .
   The reductio-ad-absurdum is of course the
  stopped clock which is
  accurate twice a day.
 
  As operators of precision electric equipment
  that spews signals into
  the ether (to use an outdated term :) ) I
  feel that we have an
  obligation to know stuff like that.

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Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread Jim Wilkie

Just got my K3 couple of weeks ago and love the clock
feature..must admit I miss WWVL..yes I am old..

Jim WY4R

On 2/15/2015 6:37 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:


Probably had a little program space free way back when.
I never use the on-board clock though I occasionally reset it via the K3 
utility.
Perhaps someone could write a little clock set utility that would reset it off 
the PC once a day


   From: Phil Wheeler w...@socal.rr.com
  To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 5:33 PM
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip

I agree with you, Don re no real use for a clock
in a radio.

OTOH, if there is one -- and there is one in the
K3 -- I'd like it to be at least as accurate as
the $15 watch I have on my wrist :-)

I do wonder why there is one at all.

73, Phil W7OX

On 2/15/15 1:30 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Phil,

I guess I am one of those don't care types much
of the time :-) .

I have a watch on my wrist - it is used when I
want to know what time it is.
I for one have no use for a clock in a radio.
If I am logging when portable, my watch tells me
all I need to know and does not take up display
space on the radio.
Usually I don't care what time it is unless I
have an appointment - my stomach tells me when
it is time to eat.  I am retired, and the work
that I do is on my own schedule.

I usually know where I am, but if not, I try
first to consult with a map - can't stand those
GPS units that tell you what to do and where to
turn - give me a map where I can see my to and
from and I can navigate just fine, thank you.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/15/2015 3:04 PM, Phil Kane wrote:

On 2/15/2015 11:46 AM, bs usb wrote:


Only one problem that I can see.  People who
don't know where they are
or what time of day it is are probably not
interested paying money to
find out.

Not so much People who don't know as People
who don't care to know .
   The reductio-ad-absurdum is of course the
stopped clock which is
accurate twice a day.

As operators of precision electric equipment
that spews signals into
the ether (to use an outdated term :) ) I
feel that we have an
obligation to know stuff like that.


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[Elecraft] FW: Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread Chester Alderman
Your listed email address does not work.


-Original Message-
From: Chester Alderman [mailto:alderm...@windstream.net] 
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 6:23 PM
To: 'Phil Kane'
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Clock chip

I am a retired professional microwave circuit and systems design engineer and I 
DO consider asking for an accurate clock in a ham radio transceiver a 'childish 
request'. You can BUY an atomic clock to hang on your wall for less than $50 or 
you could just look at your PC and if you have it set up correct, see very 
accurate time information. I consider development of transceiver improvements 
MUCH more important than I do having engineers spend putting an accurate clock 
in a good transceiver.  As a communications engineer I understand your 'need' 
for an accurate clock, however I think you are looking for it in a hobby item, 
inappropriate.

73,
Tom - W4BQF
K3-100F s/n 4521 - Alpha 9500 amp - 2 el 40m yagi and 16 el tribander

From the backwoods of Cecil, Ga. Pop. 253


-Original Message-
From: Phil Kane [mailto:k2...@kanafi.org]
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 2:46 PM
To: Chester Alderman
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip

On 2/15/2015 11:20 AM, Chester Alderman wrote:

 Elecraft, please do not pay any attention to these childish request 
 and please continue improving the K3 with things like these recent 
 synthesizers!

I for one - a professional communications engineer - do not consider asking for 
a clock chip that keeps accurate time as a childish request. The opposite - I 
consider it a necessity, and I consider having a clock that does not keep 
accurate time and/or display accurate time of day a detriment.

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon

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Re: [Elecraft] PX3 - odd 'missing' signal

2015-02-15 Thread d...@lightstream.net
I have noticed this null as well. In SSB mode, the null is right at the
carrier frequency. In CW mode, the null is offset from the carrier
frequency by the amount of the sidetone pitch. Engaging ALT switches the
null to the other side of the carrier, again by the amount of the sidetone
pitch.

I don't recall seeing this on earlier versions of the firmware (though
that doesn't mean it wasn't there)

Firmware versions here are:

PX3
Firmware version: 01.16

KX3:
uC: 02.30
dsP: 01.32

73, Dale
WA8SRA




 I've noticed on various modes/combinations of spans, I show some what look
 like null regions. Sometimes it's right where I'm tuned, sometimes it's
 offset. In this picture, I am tuned to 14.055.050, in CW mode, span is 2,
 and there is a deep null area centered somewhere around 14.056.05.

 In some modes, this is troublesome, especially when it's right on the
 cursor where I am tuned. I must be doing something wrong, so would
 appreciate any feedback you can give me regarding this / how to fix it.

 Here's an image showing what I am talking about:
 http://ormandj.corenode.com/images/radio/elecraft/px3-null.jpg

 Thank you
 David


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Re: [Elecraft] KSYN3A - installation question

2015-02-15 Thread Mike Reublin NF4L
I tried the cat method. He objected to the ground probe. When my arms heal, 
I'll try with a clip lead.

73, Mike NF4L

 On Feb 15, 2015, at 6:04 PM, Walter Underwood wun...@wunderwood.org wrote:
 
 With no cat, I would recommend Sleater-Kinney.
 
 wunder
 K6WRU
 CM87wj
 http://observer.wunderwood.org/
 
 On Feb 15, 2015, at 2:34 PM, Phil Wheeler w...@socal.rr.com wrote:
 
 And those with no cat?:-)
 
 On 2/15/15 1:50 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
 But what about us old Head bangers?
 
 
 
 
  From: Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com
 To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 4:29 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KSYN3A - installation question
   It is quite easy to swap the synthesizer boards without removing the KRX3 
 module. I did it blindfolded with a long-haired cat on my lap and the 
 latest Tom Petty album blasting away.
 
 Wayne
 N6KR
 
 
 On Feb 14, 2015, at 12:38 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote:
 
 I doubt it ... there is not all that much room between the front
 bulkhead and the edge of the KRX3 case.  In addition, Wayne mentioned
 the need to reroute some of the cables with may not be possible if
 the KRX3 is in place.
 
 73,
 
  ... Joe, W4TV
 
 
 On 2015-02-14 10:33 AM, Ken K3IU wrote:
 I believe that you should ne able to install both boards without
 removing the KRX3
 73, Ken K3IU
 
 On 2/14/2015 10:03 AM, Dauer, Edward wrote:
 First question that came to my mind when I saw the announcement was
 whether the KRX3 had to be removed and reinstalled in order to replace
 the
 synths.  I found installing the KRX3 exasperating when I assembled the K3
 - success came on about the 12th try.
 
 My K3 is 100 miles from where I am right now, so I looked at the
 photos in
 the K3 assembly manual and those in the new synth instructions, from
 which
 it appears that the swap could be done without removing the KRX3.  Could
 we confirm whether RR is required?  Message below says it is.
 
 If the sub does have to be RR¹d, anyone have suggestions about how to
 reinstall it without the major fuss I experienced?
 
 
 Ted, KN1CBR
 
 
 --
 
 Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 13:21:20 -0800
 From: Richard Thorpe kisso...@gmail.com
 To: Elecraft List elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] More KSYN3A
 Message-ID: 92f46418-caab-45a6-bfcd-f87860378...@gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
 
 I talked to Elecraft and you must remove the second receiver not just
 unplug it and remove its ?old? synth board.  . . .
 
 R Thorpe K6CG
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Subject: Re: Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread Mike Reublin NF4L
I'm still puzzled as to why there's a clock at all. Everything I do that 
requires time is picked up from the computer.

73, Mike NF4L

 On Feb 15, 2015, at 6:28 PM, Rick WA6NHC happymooseph...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I don't care about seeing the clock and also reset it when I think of it.  
 All required timely functions are met with the managing PC, updated every 15 
 minutes by NTP.
 
 Repeating myself:  I would like to see the ALARM function made sticky 
 (repeatable without any user intervention).
 
 I operate remotely.  If the power fails, without added hardware (and 
 software) the K3 will not power on.  An alarm can be used for this function, 
 but only if someone sets it prior to the power failure [when the radio is 
 already on too].
 
 If the alarm were sticky (and optionally hits once an hour?) when the power 
 comes back to the station, the K3 would power on at the alarm time(s).  VERY 
 useful function, less down time or needing someone to enter the shack while 
 remote.
 
 Can that be put on the list?
 
 Rick wa6nhc
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Button Box

2015-02-15 Thread Chris Hallinan
I am also interested in your design.
Are there any commercial solutions out there?

Thanks,

Chris

On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 1:44 PM, brian als...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 N2TK suggested that I post this.

 If anybody wants to try HBing an external button box for the K3, I have a
 16 button design which uses a $5 PIC.
 Sits next to my keyboard.

 It connects to the K3 via serial port to the station computer.   K3 port
 sharing software is required.  Some free software products work.

 Glad to send schematic , pix of final product and some notes.

 No doubt a professional could create a better product but it works for me
 OK.

 73 de Brian/K3KO
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Re: [Elecraft] Subject: Re: Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread Walter Underwood
I rarely carry my  computer on the trail, but I do carry my KX3.

It would be nice if the KX3 Utility could trim the clock rate. It can read it 
and set it. If it recorded the last time the clock was set, it could set a 
drift correction, assuming that the clock chip supports that.

wunder
Walter Underwood
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http://observer.wunderwood.org/  (my blog)


On Feb 15, 2015, at 4:00 PM, Mike Reublin NF4L n...@comcast.net wrote:

 I'm still puzzled as to why there's a clock at all. Everything I do that 
 requires time is picked up from the computer.
 
 73, Mike NF4L
 
 On Feb 15, 2015, at 6:28 PM, Rick WA6NHC happymooseph...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I don't care about seeing the clock and also reset it when I think of it.  
 All required timely functions are met with the managing PC, updated every 15 
 minutes by NTP.
 
 Repeating myself:  I would like to see the ALARM function made sticky 
 (repeatable without any user intervention).
 
 I operate remotely.  If the power fails, without added hardware (and 
 software) the K3 will not power on.  An alarm can be used for this function, 
 but only if someone sets it prior to the power failure [when the radio is 
 already on too].
 
 If the alarm were sticky (and optionally hits once an hour?) when the power 
 comes back to the station, the K3 would power on at the alarm time(s).  VERY 
 useful function, less down time or needing someone to enter the shack while 
 remote.
 
 Can that be put on the list?
 
 Rick wa6nhc
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Still need help with K6XX CW Tuning Indicator on K1

2015-02-15 Thread Don Wilhelm

George,

The sidetone comes into the AF2 (wiper) connection to the AF gain 
control, try there with your 'scope.  You might see it at AF1, but that 
depends on the position of the AF Gain - at normal AF Gain settings it 
may be too small there for the amplitude setting of your 'scope.


As for the K6XX CW indicator functioning - and since you do have a 
'scope - then once you can power up the indicator board, look for an 
audio signal between ground and either side of the capacitor to the left 
of the tuning pot (the cap above the IC).  You should find a sawtooth 
signal there.  If you want to pre-adjust the frequency of the indicator, 
adjust the pot until you have the frequency of that waveform at your 
desired sidetone pitch.  I use a frequency counter, but you can use a 
'scope with some arithmetic based on the horizontal time base setting of 
your 'scope.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/15/2015 5:46 PM, George Averill wrote:

All,

I feel like I’m trying to perform brain surgery with a pocket knife.  All of my 
test equipment is as ancient as I am. HI  Where did all the tubes go?

The first kit didn’t work so I have ordered another one.  That should solve the 
problem if the problem is the IC in the kit.  I will also try to take more time 
soldering the surface mount components this time.

What really puzzles me is that, with the kit out of the circuit, and using a 
scope, I have never been able to pull a 600 Hz  sidetone signal off the side of 
the volume control, but I can off the speaker.  I’m positive that the wire to 
the volume control is OK, and it’s connected to AF1 at the volume control 
coming from the AF Preamp.  It’s also connected as per the instructions that 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Button Box

2015-02-15 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


 Are there any commercial solutions out there?

It looks like the Genovation CP24 would be one commercial solution.
It is programmable ~100 bytes per macro and if one of the keys is
dedicated as a toggle the user can program up to 46 macros (24 normal,
24 alternate or shifted).  Note: the software provides for more than
one shift/toggle key but the keypad has only one LED indicator which
would make it difficult to handle more than two levels of macros with
a toggle - of course more than two levels are available without any
ambiguity using shift keys.

The CP24 is available in multiple versions - a serial version that
could probably be connected directly to the K3 for stand alone use
(without computer logging software) and a USB version that could be
used (with port splitting software) in a computer with a logging
program.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 2015-02-15 7:00 PM, Chris Hallinan wrote:

I am also interested in your design.
Are there any commercial solutions out there?

Thanks,

Chris

On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 1:44 PM, brian als...@nc.rr.com wrote:

N2TK suggested that I post this.

If anybody wants to try HBing an external button box for the K3, I have a
16 button design which uses a $5 PIC.
Sits next to my keyboard.

It connects to the K3 via serial port to the station computer.   K3 port
sharing software is required.  Some free software products work.

Glad to send schematic , pix of final product and some notes.

No doubt a professional could create a better product but it works for me
OK.

73 de Brian/K3KO
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Re: [Elecraft] Subject: Re: Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread Nick Kemp
An Arduino with a GPS could be programmed to update the clock via the 
serial port for those who need perfect time.


Nick
N1KMP


Walter Underwood wrote on 2/15/2015 6:05 PM:

I rarely carry my  computer on the trail, but I do carry my KX3.

It would be nice if the KX3 Utility could trim the clock rate. It can read it 
and set it. If it recorded the last time the clock was set, it could set a 
drift correction, assuming that the clock chip supports that.

wunder
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http://observer.wunderwood.org/  (my blog)


On Feb 15, 2015, at 4:00 PM, Mike Reublin NF4L n...@comcast.net wrote:

 I'm still puzzled as to why there's a clock at all. Everything I do that 
requires time is picked up from the computer.

 73, Mike NF4L

 On Feb 15, 2015, at 6:28 PM, Rick WA6NHC happymooseph...@gmail.com wrote:

 I don't care about seeing the clock and also reset it when I think of it.  
All required timely functions are met with the managing PC, updated every 15 minutes 
by NTP.

 Repeating myself:  I would like to see the ALARM function made sticky 
(repeatable without any user intervention).

 I operate remotely.  If the power fails, without added hardware (and 
software) the K3 will not power on.  An alarm can be used for this function, but only 
if someone sets it prior to the power failure [when the radio is already on too].

 If the alarm were sticky (and optionally hits once an hour?) when the power 
comes back to the station, the K3 would power on at the alarm time(s).  VERY useful 
function, less down time or needing someone to enter the shack while remote.

 Can that be put on the list?

 Rick wa6nhc

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Button Box

2015-02-15 Thread David Cole
Could you expand a bit on the keypad please?  Like how it connects to
the K3/P3, with SVGA I assume?  I am new enough to the K3 to have never
heard of this.
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On Sun, 2015-02-15 at 21:23 +, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
 I'd be interested in seeing what you have done (though I'm setup for the 
 Atmel AVR Line)
 I've been considering taking the easy way out and just getting a Genovation 
 Keypad.
 Thank you
 


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[Elecraft] K3 firmware updates under Linux/ARM?

2015-02-15 Thread Jussi Eloranta

Hi,

As the current Linux/Intel desktop at my station decided take its last 
breath, I am exploring the option of replacing it with an ARM based 
system; either Banana Pi (ARM based computer; about $45) or Raspberry 
Pi2 (about the same for $35). I have figured out everything else (dual 
monitor support, USB-RS232, logging programs etc.) but the only missing 
piece is to be able to update the firmware in my K3. The firmware update 
program is available only for Linux/Intel platforms and not for Linux/ARM.


Are there any plans to support Linux/ARM in the future? At this point it 
would be enough for me to hear that such support is planned.


Thanks,

Jussi Eloranta (AA6KJ)

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[Elecraft] K3 Beta 5r10 and LINK

2015-02-15 Thread Johnny Siu
Hello Arie,
I agree with you 'LINK' should not be abandoned.  Please excuse my language, I 
would consider the idea of abandoning the 'LINK' is stupid.
During APDXC 2012 in Icom HQ Osaka, I spoke to Mr. Inoue JA3FA that I did not 
understand why IC7800 did not have the function of LINK for both VFOA  B so 
that I could use the dual receivers for diversity reception.  I also mentioned 
that their competitor K3 had that function which I often used.
Skillful use of diversity reception will enable you to pick up the odds even 
with simple antennae.
73
Johnny VR2XMC
   寄件人︰ Arie Kleingeld PA3A p...@xs4all.nl
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 主題︰ Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta 5r10 and LINK
   
Tony

LINK ties both VFO's to the mail freq dial en keeps them insync when you 
turn the dial knob.
So both receivers keep working on the same freq.

What I often use i diversity listening so with two receivers and two 
antennas on the samen freq.
Diversity puts the main RX audio on the left ear of the headset, and the 
Sub on the right ear. That's the normal situation.
In my case, the F9-F12 buttons in N1MM contain commands to the K3 that 
switch the audio to my liking (that can  also be done in the Config, but 
that takes too much time during QSO) This way I can switch listening 
from diversity (listen both MainRX and SubRX at same time) to only main 
RX (main RX audio on both ears)  or only sub RX (Sub RX audio on both 
ears) depending on where the signal is best.
The commands to do this are in the programmers manual of the K3. It's 
really fun to control some beautiful K3 features from the keyboard like 
this.

73
Arie PA3A






N2TK, Tony schreef op 15-2-2015 om 16:38:
 Hi Arie,
 I am not sure I understand what LINK does to help when both receivers are on
 the same freq. What does F9-F12 below do to help?
 Tnx
 N2TK, Tony
.
 - F9 = listen A-B
 - F10 = listen A-A
 - F11 = listen B-B
 - F12 contains the commands to copy VFO freq and mode from A to B and LINK
 the VFO's.



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta 5r10 and LINK

2015-02-15 Thread David Cole
I would second the request to leave LINK in as well...  Please!
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On Mon, 2015-02-16 at 08:30 +1000, Gary Gregory wrote:
 Leave LINK as it is please.
 
 I wonder what the majority of k3 owners think?
 
 Gary
 Vk1ZZ
 K3, KX3, KPA500-FT, KAT500-FT,P3.
 On 16/02/2015 5:51 AM, Pierfrancesco Caci p...@tippete.net wrote:
 
   brian == brian  als...@nc.rr.com writes:
 
 
  brian Question: does anybody really use XFIL?
 
  I do :)
  Maybe I should learn to use Norm I/II more, instead.
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft
Ray I agree with you! 
For those who insist on having an accurate working clock. Please also insist on 
it going  Tic Toc  
Why are we sweating the small stuff? Times like these are when I truly believe 
that Wayne has us spoiled. 

73 Milverton / W9MMS. 

  From: Ray Sills raysil...@verizon.net
 To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 12:52 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip
   
Certainly, having an accurate clock inside the rig would be handy,  
especially for those who use manual logging.  Even though wristwatches  
with WWVB receivers can be had fairly inexpensively, I'm sure it would  
be more costly for Elecraft to add it to their rigs.  But, if it's  
available as an option, then those who want it, can buy it.

Me?  I just use the clock on my cell phone.  And, it's a smart phone,  
and I have a logging program I can use.

73 de Ray
K2ULR
KX3 #211



On Feb 15, 2015, at 1:24 PM, Ken G Kopp wrote:

 Given the tiny size of atomic clock /  WWVB devices ... as in wrist
 watches ... it would seem one could be integrated into both the K3  
 and KX3
 and make the clock actually usable.

 73

 Ken - K0PP
 On Feb 15, 2015 11:17 AM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT 
 k...@coldrockshotbrooms.com wrote:

 In which radio?

 On 2/15/2015 9:52 AM, Jim Miller wrote:

 Elecraft, Please give us a replacement clock chip that will keep  
 time.  An
 adjust method for what we have?


 Thanks, Jim KG0KP

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware updates under Linux/ARM?

2015-02-15 Thread Nate Bargmann
This is just a thought, but it may be possible to use Qemu to create an
i386 virtual machine and install a minimal desktop distro that you can
use the Elecraft utilities with.  I did nearly the same thing here using
VirtualBox on my amd64 (x86_64) desktop machine running Debian.  The VM
is running Debian Stable with a lightweight desktop environment and it
works just fine the few times I need it.

73, Nate, N0NB

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Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread Richard Solomon

It escapes me why you need an accurate clock in your rig. You can sync your
computer to WWV, from that the time in your log is determined.

What else is a clock good for ??

Besides, unless it's locked to GPS, it will show the wrong time, no 
matter how

good people say it is.

73, Dick, W1KSZ


On 2/15/2015 5:53 PM, Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft wrote:

Ray I agree with you!
For those who insist on having an accurate working clock. Please also insist on it going 
 Tic Toc 
Why are we sweating the small stuff? Times like these are when I truly believe 
that Wayne has us spoiled.

73 Milverton / W9MMS.

   From: Ray Sills raysil...@verizon.net
  To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 12:52 PM
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip

Certainly, having an accurate clock inside the rig would be handy,

especially for those who use manual logging.  Even though wristwatches
with WWVB receivers can be had fairly inexpensively, I'm sure it would
be more costly for Elecraft to add it to their rigs.  But, if it's
available as an option, then those who want it, can buy it.

Me?  I just use the clock on my cell phone.  And, it's a smart phone,
and I have a logging program I can use.

73 de Ray
K2ULR
KX3 #211



On Feb 15, 2015, at 1:24 PM, Ken G Kopp wrote:


Given the tiny size of atomic clock /  WWVB devices ... as in wrist
watches ... it would seem one could be integrated into both the K3
and KX3
and make the clock actually usable.

73

Ken - K0PP
On Feb 15, 2015 11:17 AM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT 
k...@coldrockshotbrooms.com wrote:


In which radio?

On 2/15/2015 9:52 AM, Jim Miller wrote:


Elecraft, Please give us a replacement clock chip that will keep
time.  An
adjust method for what we have?


Thanks, Jim KG0KP

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Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread Mike Morrow
 I DO consider asking for an accurate clock in a ham radio transceiver a 
 'childish request'...

and

 Elecraft, please do not pay any attention to these childish request 
...

We have some riding their high horses here. :-)

Radio clocks that synch to LF or GPS signals seem to me gross overkill.

How about a plain clock such as found in the last three $15 Casio watches I've 
purchased at Walmart...all of which gain less than 0.2 seconds per day, on or 
off wrist?  Is something like *that* too much to ask from a ham radio internal 
RT clock? Button cell backup should always be provided as well.

Mike / KK5F



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta 5r10 and LINK

2015-02-15 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


 Skillful use of diversity reception will enable you to pick up the
 odds even with simple antennae.

Diversity is entirely different than LINK.  Diversity as engaged by
a one second HOLD of the SUB button in FW 5.10 (and a two second hold
in prior firmware versions) uses the same synthesizer for both
receivers so they are phase locked.  LINK as engaged by a one second
HOLD of the SUB button in prior versions of the software only slaves
the two VFOs with a constant offset which means the two receivers will
vary randomly in phase causing signals to fade in and out as the
receivers vary from in-phase to out-of-phase and back.

FW 5.10 simply moves true diversity to the one second hold of position
of the SUB button - as it should be - instead of requiring a two second
hold and relegates the inferior LINK to a programmable function.

 During APDXC 2012 in Icom HQ Osaka, I spoke to Mr. Inoue JA3FA that I
 did not understand why IC7800 did not have the function of LINK for
 both VFOA  B so that I could use the dual receivers for diversity
 reception.

The 7800 can not phase lock the two receivers.  Their dual receive
system is not capable of true diversity operation even if the receivers
are tuned to the same frequency (as they can be with software like CI-V
Commander - part of the DXLab Suite of software).

73,

  ... Joe, W4TV


On 2015-02-15 7:51 PM, Johnny Siu wrote:

Hello Arie,
I agree with you 'LINK' should not be abandoned.  Please excuse my language, I 
would consider the idea of abandoning the 'LINK' is stupid.
During APDXC 2012 in Icom HQ Osaka, I spoke to Mr. Inoue JA3FA that I did not 
understand why IC7800 did not have the function of LINK for both VFOA  B so 
that I could use the dual receivers for diversity reception.  I also mentioned that 
their competitor K3 had that function which I often used.
Skillful use of diversity reception will enable you to pick up the odds even 
with simple antennae.
73
Johnny VR2XMC
寄件人︰ Arie Kleingeld PA3A p...@xs4all.nl
  收件人︰ elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  傳送日期︰ 2015年02月16日 (週一) 1:10 AM
  主題︰ Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta 5r10 and LINK

Tony

LINK ties both VFO's to the mail freq dial en keeps them insync when you
turn the dial knob.
So both receivers keep working on the same freq.

What I often use i diversity listening so with two receivers and two
antennas on the samen freq.
Diversity puts the main RX audio on the left ear of the headset, and the
Sub on the right ear. That's the normal situation.
In my case, the F9-F12 buttons in N1MM contain commands to the K3 that
switch the audio to my liking (that can  also be done in the Config, but
that takes too much time during QSO) This way I can switch listening
from diversity (listen both MainRX and SubRX at same time) to only main
RX (main RX audio on both ears)  or only sub RX (Sub RX audio on both
ears) depending on where the signal is best.
The commands to do this are in the programmers manual of the K3. It's
really fun to control some beautiful K3 features from the keyboard like
this.

73
Arie PA3A






N2TK, Tony schreef op 15-2-2015 om 16:38:

Hi Arie,
I am not sure I understand what LINK does to help when both receivers are on
the same freq. What does F9-F12 below do to help?
Tnx
N2TK, Tony

.

- F9 = listen A-B
- F10 = listen A-A
- F11 = listen B-B
- F12 contains the commands to copy VFO freq and mode from A to B and LINK
the VFO's.




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[Elecraft] RX SHFT=8.0 I.F. Image (16 kHz) Nulling

2015-02-15 Thread David Orman
Hi,

I've been performing all of the All-Band Receive Opposite Sideband and
I.F. Image Nulling steps without issue using my PX3 (and AA-54) as a
signal generator. I'm at the last section, RX SHFT=8.0 I.F. Image (16 kHz)
Nulling, and am having trouble. Following the directions, and setting my
KX3 16KHz up from the signal source:

7. Optimize RX SHFT=8.0 I.F. image gain and phase settings as follows: a.
Set both the signal source and KX3 to the target band (starting with 160
m). Recall that the VFO should be set 16 kHz higher than the signal source.
Make sure you’re in CW mode. (Note: You can change bands and modes from
within the RXSBNUL menu entry.) You should hear a strong signal, and see an
Smeter reading of between S9 and S9+30 dB. If not, adjust the preamp
setting or the RF source level.

This step, I do _not_ hear a strong signal, I hear no signal at all. If I
turn on RIT to -1.1, I hear a strong signal (looking at the next step.)

What am I doing wrong/missing?

Thank you,
David
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Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread Ken G Kopp
Given the tiny size of atomic clock /  WWVB devices ... as in wrist
watches ... it would seem one could be integrated into both the K3 and KX3
and make the clock actually usable.

73

Ken - K0PP
On Feb 15, 2015 11:17 AM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT 
k...@coldrockshotbrooms.com wrote:

 In which radio?

 On 2/15/2015 9:52 AM, Jim Miller wrote:

 Elecraft, Please give us a replacement clock chip that will keep time.  An
 adjust method for what we have?


 Thanks, Jim KG0KP

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[Elecraft] K3 request - Spot function in RTTY

2015-02-15 Thread Gary Smith
I'm pretty sure I would find a spot function in RTTY as it works in 
the CW mode, very useful.

73,

Gary
KA1J

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Button Box

2015-02-15 Thread David Pratt

On 15 Feb 2015 19:18, David Ferrington, M0XDF m0...@alphadene.co.uk wrote:

 Hmmm - what about us iMac lovers? 

Upgrade to a PC. That would solve a lot of compatability problems.

73 de David G4DMP
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Button Box

2015-02-15 Thread Doug Turnbull
Dear OMs,
 I think it was meant to be a tongue in cheek remark.   This could
however lead to mucho overreaction.
  73 Doug EI2CN

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of bs usb
Sent: 15 February 2015 19:38
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Button Box

David,

There are people who would argue that going to a PC is anything but an 
upgrade.

I use both.

My MacBook drive has multiple partitions and runs multiple operating 
systems, one of which is MSWindows

David Pratt wrote:
 On 15 Feb 2015 19:18, David Ferrington, M0XDF m0...@alphadene.co.uk
wrote:
 Hmmm - what about us iMac lovers?
 Upgrade to a PC. That would solve a lot of compatability problems.

 73 de David G4DMP
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Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread bs usb
Only one problem that I can see.  People who don't know where they are 
or what time of day it is are probably not interested paying money to 
find out.


dyarnes wrote:
Seems to me the answer may be simpler than trying to use VLF 
transmissions for U.S. or U.K. atomic clocks.  I think that technology 
is almost old hat these days.


I have a golf watch that gives me yardages on just about any golf 
course in the world, and it is all coordinated by GPS satellites.  It 
starts operating in just a few seconds from the time you turn it 
on--incredibly faster than the first GPS unit I owned.  The time 
function is instantaneous, and I assume that comes from the GPS 
satellites as well.  So, couldn’t something along this line be 
incorporated in a ham rig?  Heck!  It could even probably give you 
your current grid square!  Maybe this sound like it could be pricey, 
but I suspect the electronic guts of a GPS unit are becoming pretty 
inexpensive to create.  The incredible stuff I'm getting out of China 
these days, and for nickels and dimes, makes me think this is 
doable, and at a reasonable price!


Dave W7AQK


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Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread Phil Hystad
Ditto.

There would be a great advancement in civilization if vendors of various 
electronic gear
can focus on the purpose of the gear rather than adding a silly clock unless 
the electronic
gear is indeed a clock.

73, phil, K7PEH


 On Feb 15, 2015, at 11:20 AM, Chester Alderman alderm...@windstream.net 
 wrote:
 
 Elecraft, please do not pay any attention to these childish request and
 please continue improving the K3 with things like these recent synthesizers!
 
 Thanks,
 
 Tom - W4BQF
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim
 Miller
 Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 12:53 PM
 To: Elecraft Reflector
 Subject: [Elecraft] Clock chip
 
 Elecraft, Please give us a replacement clock chip that will keep time.  An
 adjust method for what we have?
 
 
 
 Thanks, Jim KG0KP
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Beta 5r10

2015-02-15 Thread alexandr.kobranov
APF and my 2 cents - I was using predefined NORM II settings for APF, if 
needed.
The problem (my problem) is that I am using 200Hz filter in my SP operation
but for APF I use 400Hz filter. (it was my chioce - YMMV of course...)
By switching on APF directly by holding XFIL button it will stay on current 
XFIL w/o possibility to have other defined...
So in previous FW version I had three possibilities - standard XFIL, 
contour (DUAL PB) or APF (with wider XFIL by switching to NORM II settings
in my case).

What will be nice to switch FINE tuning on if APF activated.

Thanks to Elecraft for keeping K3 better and better :-)

73!
Lexa, ok1dst



-- Původní zpráva --
Od: Mike Harris mike.har...@horizon.co.fk
Komu: elecraft@mailman.qth.net elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Datum: 15. 2. 2015 2:05:45
Předmět: [Elecraft] Beta 5r10

G'day,

Just installed Beta 5r10. What a dreadful shame that the Dual PB 
context/focus mode has been done away with. I used it a lot whilst 
tuning up the band SP handing out points in CW contests. Nice and 
smooth, easy listening, gently alerting you to the next signal in line. 
The APF sounds ghastly, always seemingly on the edge of ringing.

Backwards step, sorry.

Regards,

Mike VP8NO
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Button Box

2015-02-15 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Hmmm - what about us iMac lovers?
73 de David, M0XDF (K3 #174, P3 #108)

We're here to put a dent in the universe. -Steve Jobs, entrepreneur and 
inventor (1955-2011)

 On 15 Feb 2015, at 18:44, brian als...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 
 N2TK suggested that I post this.
 
 If anybody wants to try HBing an external button box for the K3, I have a 
 16 button design which uses a $5 PIC.
 Sits next to my keyboard.
 
 It connects to the K3 via serial port to the station computer.   K3 port 
 sharing software is required.  Some free software products work.
 
 Glad to send schematic , pix of final product and some notes.
 
 No doubt a professional could create a better product but it works for me OK.
 
 73 de Brian/K3KO
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Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
The original poster didn't tell us which radio, so I'm not sure how much 
I care.


The clock in my KX3 works fine, and I can use the KX3 receiver to tune 
in WWV (or any other time service around the world).


The typical battery powered atomic clock only checks the time service 
every 4 to 6 hours.  Depending on where you live (including the RF 
environment) it may only sync every couple of days.


GPS will go from off to having the time in a minute or two, and as 
someone else noted, cell phones work well too (the cellular network gets 
time from GPS).


Personally, I use my computer clock, which syncs frequently via NTP.

On 2/15/2015 10:24 AM, Ken G Kopp wrote:


Given the tiny size of atomic clock /  WWVB devices ... as in wrist 
watches ... it would seem one could be integrated into both the K3 and 
KX3 and make the clock actually usable.


73

Ken - K0PP


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Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread Wes (N7WS)

I have a smart phone too (iPhone)

Unfortunately, it's not smart enough to realize that most of AZ is smart enough 
to know that Daylight Savings Time doesn't really save any daylight, so we 
don't mess with our clocks twice a year. So I either have to turn off automatic 
updates and have it drift off a few minutes from correct time or have it 
perfectly off by an hour.


Wes  N7WS

On 2/15/2015 11:52 AM, Ray Sills wrote:


Me?  I just use the clock on my cell phone.  And, it's a smart phone, and I 
have a logging program I can use.


73 de Ray
K2ULR
KX3 #211


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Button Box

2015-02-15 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
More to the point, this is a religious argument, and religion is far 
outside the list charter.


On 2/15/2015 11:38 AM, bs usb wrote:

David,

There are people who would argue that going to a PC is anything but an 
upgrade.


I use both.

My MacBook drive has multiple partitions and runs multiple operating 
systems, one of which is MSWindows


David Pratt wrote:
On 15 Feb 2015 19:18, David Ferrington, M0XDF 
m0...@alphadene.co.uk wrote:

Hmmm - what about us iMac lovers?

Upgrade to a PC. That would solve a lot of compatability problems.

73 de David G4DMP
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[Elecraft] K3 upgrade advise

2015-02-15 Thread Mike Weir
Soon I will be placing an order for the KSYN3AUPG board for my K3 and at the 
same time since the rig will be apart try to order any other upgrade mod's for  
the rig. One mod I was looking at was I have REV C DSP board and see that I can 
add K3DSPLPF board. Does this board offer any other enhancement other than a 
LPF to roll off the RX audio above 4 KHz?  The Serial number of my K3 is 3619 
it no longer has the Sub receiver and is the low power model at 10 watts is 
there any other upgrades I should consider? figure may as well order them all 
at once save on shipping. 
Thanks in advance 
Mike Weir
VE3WDM

  
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Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread Phil Kane
On 2/15/2015 11:46 AM, bs usb wrote:

 Only one problem that I can see.  People who don't know where they are
 or what time of day it is are probably not interested paying money to
 find out.

Not so much People who don't know as People who don't care to know .
 The reductio-ad-absurdum is of course the stopped clock which is
accurate twice a day.

As operators of precision electric equipment that spews signals into
the ether (to use an outdated term :) ) I feel that we have an
obligation to know stuff like that.

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT

In which radio?

On 2/15/2015 9:52 AM, Jim Miller wrote:

Elecraft, Please give us a replacement clock chip that will keep time.  An
adjust method for what we have?

  


Thanks, Jim KG0KP

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[Elecraft] K3 Button Box

2015-02-15 Thread brian

N2TK suggested that I post this.

If anybody wants to try HBing an external button box for the K3, I 
have a 16 button design which uses a $5 PIC.

Sits next to my keyboard.

It connects to the K3 via serial port to the station computer.   K3 port 
sharing software is required.  Some free software products work.


Glad to send schematic , pix of final product and some notes.

No doubt a professional could create a better product but it works for 
me OK.


73 de Brian/K3KO
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Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread Ray Sills
Certainly, having an accurate clock inside the rig would be handy,  
especially for those who use manual logging.  Even though wristwatches  
with WWVB receivers can be had fairly inexpensively, I'm sure it would  
be more costly for Elecraft to add it to their rigs.  But, if it's  
available as an option, then those who want it, can buy it.


Me?  I just use the clock on my cell phone.  And, it's a smart phone,  
and I have a logging program I can use.


73 de Ray
K2ULR
KX3 #211



On Feb 15, 2015, at 1:24 PM, Ken G Kopp wrote:


Given the tiny size of atomic clock /  WWVB devices ... as in wrist
watches ... it would seem one could be integrated into both the K3  
and KX3

and make the clock actually usable.

73

Ken - K0PP
On Feb 15, 2015 11:17 AM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT 
k...@coldrockshotbrooms.com wrote:


In which radio?

On 2/15/2015 9:52 AM, Jim Miller wrote:

Elecraft, Please give us a replacement clock chip that will keep  
time.  An

adjust method for what we have?


Thanks, Jim KG0KP

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Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread David Pratt
That would be no good to me, Ken, WWVB is not receivable in Great Britain.  We 
would need MSF on 60 kHz.  Remember that the KX3  K3 are global transceivers 
used throughout the world.

73

David G4DMP

David Pratt on his Asus Nexus 7 tablet.On 15 Feb 2015 18:24, Ken G Kopp 
kengk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Given the tiny size of atomic clock /  WWVB devices ... as in wrist 
 watches ... it would seem one could be integrated into both the K3 and KX3 
 and make the clock actually usable. 

 73 

 Ken - K0PP 
 On Feb 15, 2015 11:17 AM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT  
 k...@coldrockshotbrooms.com wrote: 

  In which radio? 
  
  On 2/15/2015 9:52 AM, Jim Miller wrote: 
  
  Elecraft, Please give us a replacement clock chip that will keep time.  An 
  adjust method for what we have? 
  
  
  Thanks, Jim KG0KP 
  
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Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip K3

2015-02-15 Thread Jim Miller
K3. Thanks, Jim

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W. Taylor, WB6UUT
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In which radio?

On 2/15/2015 9:52 AM, Jim Miller wrote:
 Elecraft, Please give us a replacement clock chip that will keep time.  
 An adjust method for what we have?

   

 Thanks, Jim KG0KP

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Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread Rose
Excallent point Dave.  I apologize for my regional thinking  ( :-)

73 - Ken
On Feb 15, 2015 11:55 AM, David Pratt da...@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk wrote:

 That would be no good to me, Ken, WWVB is not receivable in Great
 Britain.  We would need MSF on 60 kHz.  Remember that the KX3  K3 are
 global transceivers used throughout the world.

 73

 David G4DMP

 David Pratt on his Asus Nexus 7 tablet.On 15 Feb 2015 18:24, Ken G Kopp 
 kengk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Given the tiny size of atomic clock /  WWVB devices ... as in wrist
  watches ... it would seem one could be integrated into both the K3 and
 KX3
  and make the clock actually usable.
 
  73
 
  Ken - K0PP
  On Feb 15, 2015 11:17 AM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT 
  k...@coldrockshotbrooms.com wrote:
 
   In which radio?
  
   On 2/15/2015 9:52 AM, Jim Miller wrote:
  
   Elecraft, Please give us a replacement clock chip that will keep
 time.  An
   adjust method for what we have?
  
  
   Thanks, Jim KG0KP
  
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Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread Chester Alderman
Elecraft, please do not pay any attention to these childish request and
please continue improving the K3 with things like these recent synthesizers!

Thanks,

Tom - W4BQF


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Miller
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Subject: [Elecraft] Clock chip

Elecraft, Please give us a replacement clock chip that will keep time.  An
adjust method for what we have?

 

Thanks, Jim KG0KP

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Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread dyarnes
Seems to me the answer may be simpler than trying to use VLF transmissions 
for U.S. or U.K. atomic clocks.  I think that technology is almost old hat 
these days.


I have a golf watch that gives me yardages on just about any golf course 
in the world, and it is all coordinated by GPS satellites.  It starts 
operating in just a few seconds from the time you turn it on--incredibly 
faster than the first GPS unit I owned.  The time function is instantaneous, 
and I assume that comes from the GPS satellites as well.  So, couldn’t 
something along this line be incorporated in a ham rig?  Heck!  It could 
even probably give you your current grid square!  Maybe this sound like it 
could be pricey, but I suspect the electronic guts of a GPS unit are 
becoming pretty inexpensive to create.  The incredible stuff I'm getting out 
of China these days, and for nickels and dimes, makes me think this is 
doable, and at a reasonable price!


Dave W7AQK


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Button Box

2015-02-15 Thread bs usb

David,

There are people who would argue that going to a PC is anything but an 
upgrade.


I use both.

My MacBook drive has multiple partitions and runs multiple operating 
systems, one of which is MSWindows


David Pratt wrote:

On 15 Feb 2015 19:18, David Ferrington, M0XDF m0...@alphadene.co.uk wrote:

Hmmm - what about us iMac lovers?

Upgrade to a PC. That would solve a lot of compatability problems.

73 de David G4DMP
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Re: [Elecraft] Pig knob thoughts

2015-02-15 Thread W2BLC
I have a Pigknob and find it is most useful. There are 8 buttons and a 
VFO type control. The great part - is no endless arguing on this 
reflector about what should be on the box - the user programs each 
button and the VFO control it to suit his personal needs. No beating 
features into the ground. No over engineering of air castles. Windbag 
experts can desist. Dang, I like simple things that just plain work.


Viva the Pigknob!!!

Bill W2BLC K-line
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta 5r10 and LINK

2015-02-15 Thread Pierfrancesco Caci
 brian == brian  als...@nc.rr.com writes:


brian Question: does anybody really use XFIL?

I do :)
Maybe I should learn to use Norm I/II more, instead. 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Button Box

2015-02-15 Thread Harry Yingst via Elecraft

Genovation, provides the software to program them.
They are basically a fully programmable keypad that you would just write a 
macro for each key.

I plan on buying on at some point but just gave other projects that have taken 
priority.
The keyboard should just plug into the K3, But I want to experiment with Ying 
it with the PC(Perhaps with Diodes to have the keypad not interfere with the 
computer).
I have installed them before in commercial settings and they seem to work well.






  From: Doug Turnbull turnb...@net1.ie
 To: 'Harry Yingst' hlyin...@yahoo.com 
Cc: Brendan Minish ei6iz.bren...@gmail.com 
 Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 5:00 PM
 Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 Button Box
   
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this replywith others on the reflector.    I do not need so many buttons but 
could easilyprogram several buttons for the same memory function.     Who 
provides the programmingsoftware?   Do you download to the Keypad via the 
serial port?   Does one write Mac ros for the K3/KX3? Using thestandard 
Elecraft procedure?   I have not done this previously but know Ei6IZwho has and 
could seek advice from Brendan.         I am very likely to give this a try 
andwould like to hear more if it is not too much trouble.   You might as 
mentionedat the start like to share this with our fellows on the reflector.    
Thank youso much for your kind reply.       73 Doug EI2CN   
 

From: Harry Yingst [mailto:hlyin...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: 15 February 2015 21:47
To: Doug Turnbull
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 ButtonBox    it'sa serial Keypad, with lots of 
programmable buttons     LookHere http://www.eham.net/articles/32176    From: 
Doug Turnbull  turnb...@net1.ie 
To: ' Harry Yingst ' hlyin...@yahoo.com 
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 20154:41 PM
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 ButtonBox 
Harry,
    Just what does the Genovation Keypad do for you and how does one
interface it to the K3 and then use it?    Can I use it to activatethe DVR
voice and CW messages?    

    It has always been a pain holding my index finger up at an
uncomfortable angle and height to the M1 through M4 buttons.  Then
sometimes in the middle of the pile up my finger slips hitting another
button.  This is one of the weak spots in the K3 design but one which I am
afraid will not be addressed.  It has been brought up before and wellthere
is so much good about the K3 that one feels churlish to complain.

                  73 Doug EI2CN

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] OnBehalf Of Harry
Yingst via Elecraft
Sent: 15 February 2015 21:24
To: brian; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Button Box

I'd be interested in seeing what you have done (though I'm setup for the
Atmel AVR Line)
I've been considering taking the easy way out and just getting a Genovation
Keypad.
Thank you


      From: brian als...@nc.rr.com
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 1:44 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Button Box
  
N2TK suggested that I post this.

If anybody wants to try HBing an external button box for the K3, I 
have a 16 button design which uses a $5 PIC.
Sits next to my keyboard.

It connects to the K3 via serial port to the station computer.  K3 port 
sharing software is required.  Some free software products work.

Glad to send schematic , pix of final product and some notes.

No doubt a professional could create a better product but it works for 
me OK.

73 de Brian/K3KO
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Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread Phil Wheeler
Usable only in the part of the world where WWVB is 
receivable.


Phil W7OX

On 2/15/15 10:24 AM, Ken G Kopp wrote:

Given the tiny size of atomic clock /  WWVB devices ... as in wrist
watches ... it would seem one could be integrated into both the K3 and KX3
and make the clock actually usable.

73

Ken - K0PP
On Feb 15, 2015 11:17 AM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT 
k...@coldrockshotbrooms.com wrote:


In which radio?

On 2/15/2015 9:52 AM, Jim Miller wrote:


Elecraft, Please give us a replacement clock chip that will keep time.  An
adjust method for what we have?


Thanks, Jim KG0KP


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta 5r10 and LINK

2015-02-15 Thread Gary Gregory
Leave LINK as it is please.

I wonder what the majority of k3 owners think?

Gary
Vk1ZZ
K3, KX3, KPA500-FT, KAT500-FT,P3.
On 16/02/2015 5:51 AM, Pierfrancesco Caci p...@tippete.net wrote:

  brian == brian  als...@nc.rr.com writes:


 brian Question: does anybody really use XFIL?

 I do :)
 Maybe I should learn to use Norm I/II more, instead.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta 5r10 and LINK

2015-02-15 Thread Ian White
It is probably true that Elecraft can never remove any  existing feature
without upsetting some existing users... so the way forward would be to
add the new alternatives as *options*.

The point about options is: nobody is compelled to choose them! The
factory defaults would usually need to stay as they are, because of the
existing labels on the buttons and the front panel. So anyone who
doesn't want those new options would be able to carry on exactly as
before.

Those who do want to select new options would have to accept that the
existing 'tap' and 'hold' labels would no longer be quite accurate. For
me, that would be no big deal - my first priority is always what the
K3's controls *do*. But others will have different priorities, and that
is precisely why new features need to be offered as *options*. 


But having said that...

 Question: does anybody really use XFIL?

Why does the K3 have an XFIL control at all? It seems like a carry-over
from the K2, where the selectivity came from the crystal filters and the
XFIL button was the primary bandwidth control. But the bandwidth of the
K3 has always been defined primarily by the DSP so XFIL has never made
sense to me. 

However, AB9CA makes a very valid point that the WIDTH control requires
excessive cranking at larger bandwidths. If the WIDTH, HIGH and LOW
functions could be improved by making their rates of change proportional
to the bandwidth, then there would be even less need or justification
for using XFIL.


 Perhaps relocation of diversity there makes more sense.
W4TV replied:

No, retaining the dual context CW filter and assigning APF to XFIL
and Dual PB to the current DUAL PB function makes more sense.

Agreed, that definitely isn't the right place to relocate the Diversity
function. There are already three existing functions competing for that
button, without adding another. I would support an option to replace
XFIL with APF as the main ('tap') function - which would then correspond
more closely to the KX3 - and to bring back DUAL PB for 'hold'. 

Leave DIV as SUB Hold as it is in 5.10 and make LINK available
as a programmable function (LN0;/LN1;).   Having LINK as SUB
HOLD and DIV as an extra long hold is/was very difficult from
an ergonomic perspective.

Agreed in every detail. 
 

Finally, on the subject of an external button-box, I don't ever want to
see external boxes and macros being used as band-aids for existing
controls that don't function as effectively as they could. Much more can
still be done to improve the ergonomic 'rough edges' of the existing
front panel.


73 from Ian GM3SEK


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Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread Phil Wheeler
I agree with you, Don re no real use for a clock 
in a radio.


OTOH, if there is one -- and there is one in the 
K3 -- I'd like it to be at least as accurate as 
the $15 watch I have on my wrist :-)


I do wonder why there is one at all.

73, Phil W7OX

On 2/15/15 1:30 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Phil,

I guess I am one of those don't care types much 
of the time :-) .


I have a watch on my wrist - it is used when I 
want to know what time it is.
I for one have no use for a clock in a radio.  
If I am logging when portable, my watch tells me 
all I need to know and does not take up display 
space on the radio.
Usually I don't care what time it is unless I 
have an appointment - my stomach tells me when 
it is time to eat.  I am retired, and the work 
that I do is on my own schedule.


I usually know where I am, but if not, I try 
first to consult with a map - can't stand those 
GPS units that tell you what to do and where to 
turn - give me a map where I can see my to and 
from and I can navigate just fine, thank you.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/15/2015 3:04 PM, Phil Kane wrote:

On 2/15/2015 11:46 AM, bs usb wrote:

Only one problem that I can see.  People who 
don't know where they are
or what time of day it is are probably not 
interested paying money to

find out.
Not so much People who don't know as People 
who don't care to know .
  The reductio-ad-absurdum is of course the 
stopped clock which is

accurate twice a day.

As operators of precision electric equipment 
that spews signals into
the ether (to use an outdated term :) ) I 
feel that we have an

obligation to know stuff like that.


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Re: [Elecraft] KSYN3A - installation question

2015-02-15 Thread Phil Wheeler

And those with no cat?:-)

On 2/15/15 1:50 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:

But what about us old Head bangers?




   From: Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com
  To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 4:29 PM
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KSYN3A - installation question

It is quite easy to swap the synthesizer boards without removing the KRX3 module. I did it blindfolded with a long-haired cat on my lap and the latest Tom Petty album blasting away.


Wayne
N6KR


On Feb 14, 2015, at 12:38 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote:


I doubt it ... there is not all that much room between the front
bulkhead and the edge of the KRX3 case.  In addition, Wayne mentioned
the need to reroute some of the cables with may not be possible if
the KRX3 is in place.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 2015-02-14 10:33 AM, Ken K3IU wrote:

I believe that you should ne able to install both boards without
removing the KRX3
73, Ken K3IU

On 2/14/2015 10:03 AM, Dauer, Edward wrote:

First question that came to my mind when I saw the announcement was
whether the KRX3 had to be removed and reinstalled in order to replace
the
synths.  I found installing the KRX3 exasperating when I assembled the K3
- success came on about the 12th try.

My K3 is 100 miles from where I am right now, so I looked at the
photos in
the K3 assembly manual and those in the new synth instructions, from
which
it appears that the swap could be done without removing the KRX3.  Could
we confirm whether RR is required?  Message below says it is.

If the sub does have to be RR¹d, anyone have suggestions about how to
reinstall it without the major fuss I experienced?


Ted, KN1CBR



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Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 13:21:20 -0800
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Subject: [Elecraft] More KSYN3A
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I talked to Elecraft and you must remove the second receiver not just
unplug it and remove its ?old? synth board.  . . .

R Thorpe K6CG

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta 5r10 and LINK

2015-02-15 Thread Edward R Cole
YES - I use XFIL repeatedly to shutdown the IF or restore it to 
service when doing eme.  I have DATA-A configured to use  FL3 which 
has no filter installed in order to disconnect the 2nd IF when I am 
running MAP65. I tap off the 1st IF into the LP-Pan, to Delta44 soundcard.


Why do I do that?  FL2 is populated with 2.8-KHz filter and it sucks 
out at zero frequency on the MAP65 band display.  selecting FL3 with 
XFIL allows me to have no load from the 2nd IF.  But if I want to 
check signal levels with the S-meter I only have to tap XFIL to 
restore FL2.  I use XFIL several times an hour on eme.


Regarding use of Diversity - that IS why I bought the KRX3 
subreceiver.  I ALWAYS run Diversity reception when I select the 
subreceiver because it is integral to my dual-polarity adaptive 
receiving system (used on 2m-eme).


I would consider loss of use of Diversity Reception a breach of 
contract by Elecraft.  I have over $10k invested with the K3 
Diversity Rx as central feature of the system.  It IS why I bought the K3.



On 2015-02-15 9:55 AM, brian wrote:
 Question: does anybody really use XFIL?
 Perhaps relocation of diversity there makes more sense.
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[Elecraft] Still need help with K6XX CW Tuning Indicator on K1

2015-02-15 Thread George Averill
All,

I feel like I’m trying to perform brain surgery with a pocket knife.  All of my 
test equipment is as ancient as I am. HI  Where did all the tubes go?

The first kit didn’t work so I have ordered another one.  That should solve the 
problem if the problem is the IC in the kit.  I will also try to take more time 
soldering the surface mount components this time.

What really puzzles me is that, with the kit out of the circuit, and using a 
scope, I have never been able to pull a 600 Hz  sidetone signal off the side of 
the volume control, but I can off the speaker.  I’m positive that the wire to 
the volume control is OK, and it’s connected to AF1 at the volume control 
coming from the AF Preamp.  It’s also connected as per the instructions that 
came with the kit.

Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.

73, George, K4EOR

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta 5r10 and LINK

2015-02-15 Thread Gary Gregory
Ed

Your last paragraph, to me, is spot on.

Gary
Vk1ZZ
K3, KX3, KPA500-FT, KAT500-FT,P3.
On 16/02/2015 8:35 AM, Edward R Cole kl...@acsalaska.net wrote:

 YES - I use XFIL repeatedly to shutdown the IF or restore it to service
 when doing eme.  I have DATA-A configured to use  FL3 which has no filter
 installed in order to disconnect the 2nd IF when I am running MAP65. I tap
 off the 1st IF into the LP-Pan, to Delta44 soundcard.

 Why do I do that?  FL2 is populated with 2.8-KHz filter and it sucks out
 at zero frequency on the MAP65 band display.  selecting FL3 with XFIL
 allows me to have no load from the 2nd IF.  But if I want to check signal
 levels with the S-meter I only have to tap XFIL to restore FL2.  I use XFIL
 several times an hour on eme.

 Regarding use of Diversity - that IS why I bought the KRX3 subreceiver.  I
 ALWAYS run Diversity reception when I select the subreceiver because it is
 integral to my dual-polarity adaptive receiving system (used on 2m-eme).

 I would consider loss of use of Diversity Reception a breach of contract
 by Elecraft.  I have over $10k invested with the K3 Diversity Rx as central
 feature of the system.  It IS why I bought the K3.


 On 2015-02-15 9:55 AM, brian wrote:
  Question: does anybody really use XFIL?
  Perhaps relocation of diversity there makes more sense.
 snip==

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[Elecraft] Subject: Re: Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread Edward R Cole

I shouldn't comment (but I will):

I don't use the K3 digital clock for logging as I have (too many) 
other clocks set up in the shack.  When I am doing eme I have JT65 
running that tells me accurate time to 10ms from NIST sources via D4 
running on the computer. In fact the time is always running under D4 
on the computer, so any sw taking time from the computer clock is 
likewise accurate.


When I think of it, I update the time using the K3 Utility.

There is much more important sw development for Elecraft to focus on 
(in my opinion - which is never humble ;-))


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta 5r10 and LINK

2015-02-15 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


I don't think anyone is talking about getting rid of Diversity - which
is one of the differentiating features of the K3.  What many are saying
- and what Elecraft did in 5.10 - is that removing the second SUB Hold
function for the generally inferior LINK option is appropriate.

  ... Joe, W4TV


On 2015-02-15 5:56 PM, Gary Gregory wrote:

Ed

Your last paragraph, to me, is spot on.

Gary
Vk1ZZ
K3, KX3, KPA500-FT, KAT500-FT,P3.
On 16/02/2015 8:35 AM, Edward R Cole kl...@acsalaska.net wrote:


YES - I use XFIL repeatedly to shutdown the IF or restore it to service
when doing eme.  I have DATA-A configured to use  FL3 which has no filter
installed in order to disconnect the 2nd IF when I am running MAP65. I tap
off the 1st IF into the LP-Pan, to Delta44 soundcard.

Why do I do that?  FL2 is populated with 2.8-KHz filter and it sucks out
at zero frequency on the MAP65 band display.  selecting FL3 with XFIL
allows me to have no load from the 2nd IF.  But if I want to check signal
levels with the S-meter I only have to tap XFIL to restore FL2.  I use XFIL
several times an hour on eme.

Regarding use of Diversity - that IS why I bought the KRX3 subreceiver.  I
ALWAYS run Diversity reception when I select the subreceiver because it is
integral to my dual-polarity adaptive receiving system (used on 2m-eme).

I would consider loss of use of Diversity Reception a breach of contract
by Elecraft.  I have over $10k invested with the K3 Diversity Rx as central
feature of the system.  It IS why I bought the K3.


On 2015-02-15 9:55 AM, brian wrote:

Question: does anybody really use XFIL?
Perhaps relocation of diversity there makes more sense.

snip==

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Re: [Elecraft] KSYN3A - installation question

2015-02-15 Thread Walter Underwood
With no cat, I would recommend Sleater-Kinney.

wunder
K6WRU
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/

On Feb 15, 2015, at 2:34 PM, Phil Wheeler w...@socal.rr.com wrote:

 And those with no cat?:-)
 
 On 2/15/15 1:50 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
 But what about us old Head bangers?
 
 
 
 
   From: Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com
  To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 4:29 PM
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KSYN3A - installation question
It is quite easy to swap the synthesizer boards without removing the KRX3 
 module. I did it blindfolded with a long-haired cat on my lap and the latest 
 Tom Petty album blasting away.
 
 Wayne
 N6KR
 
 
 On Feb 14, 2015, at 12:38 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote:
 
 I doubt it ... there is not all that much room between the front
 bulkhead and the edge of the KRX3 case.  In addition, Wayne mentioned
 the need to reroute some of the cables with may not be possible if
 the KRX3 is in place.
 
 73,
 
   ... Joe, W4TV
 
 
 On 2015-02-14 10:33 AM, Ken K3IU wrote:
 I believe that you should ne able to install both boards without
 removing the KRX3
 73, Ken K3IU
 
 On 2/14/2015 10:03 AM, Dauer, Edward wrote:
 First question that came to my mind when I saw the announcement was
 whether the KRX3 had to be removed and reinstalled in order to replace
 the
 synths.  I found installing the KRX3 exasperating when I assembled the K3
 - success came on about the 12th try.
 
 My K3 is 100 miles from where I am right now, so I looked at the
 photos in
 the K3 assembly manual and those in the new synth instructions, from
 which
 it appears that the swap could be done without removing the KRX3.  Could
 we confirm whether RR is required?  Message below says it is.
 
 If the sub does have to be RR¹d, anyone have suggestions about how to
 reinstall it without the major fuss I experienced?
 
 
 Ted, KN1CBR
 
 
 --
 
 Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 13:21:20 -0800
 From: Richard Thorpe kisso...@gmail.com
 To: Elecraft List elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] More KSYN3A
 Message-ID: 92f46418-caab-45a6-bfcd-f87860378...@gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
 
 I talked to Elecraft and you must remove the second receiver not just
 unplug it and remove its ?old? synth board.  . . .
 
 R Thorpe K6CG
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Subject: Re: Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread Rick WA6NHC
I don't care about seeing the clock and also reset it when I think of 
it.  All required timely functions are met with the managing PC, updated 
every 15 minutes by NTP.


Repeating myself:  I would like to see the ALARM function made sticky 
(repeatable without any user intervention).


I operate remotely.  If the power fails, without added hardware (and 
software) the K3 will not power on.  An alarm can be used for this 
function, but only if someone sets it prior to the power failure [when 
the radio is already on too].


If the alarm were sticky (and optionally hits once an hour?) when the 
power comes back to the station, the K3 would power on at the alarm 
time(s).  VERY useful function, less down time or needing someone to 
enter the shack while remote.


Can that be put on the list?

Rick wa6nhc

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Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread Harry Yingst via Elecraft

Probably had a little program space free way back when.
I never use the on-board clock though I occasionally reset it via the K3 
utility.
Perhaps someone could write a little clock set utility that would reset it off 
the PC once a day


  From: Phil Wheeler w...@socal.rr.com
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 5:33 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip
   
I agree with you, Don re no real use for a clock 
in a radio.

OTOH, if there is one -- and there is one in the 
K3 -- I'd like it to be at least as accurate as 
the $15 watch I have on my wrist :-)

I do wonder why there is one at all.

73, Phil W7OX

On 2/15/15 1:30 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
 Phil,

 I guess I am one of those don't care types much 
 of the time :-) .

 I have a watch on my wrist - it is used when I 
 want to know what time it is.
 I for one have no use for a clock in a radio.  
 If I am logging when portable, my watch tells me 
 all I need to know and does not take up display 
 space on the radio.
 Usually I don't care what time it is unless I 
 have an appointment - my stomach tells me when 
 it is time to eat.  I am retired, and the work 
 that I do is on my own schedule.

 I usually know where I am, but if not, I try 
 first to consult with a map - can't stand those 
 GPS units that tell you what to do and where to 
 turn - give me a map where I can see my to and 
 from and I can navigate just fine, thank you.

 73,
 Don W3FPR

 On 2/15/2015 3:04 PM, Phil Kane wrote:
 On 2/15/2015 11:46 AM, bs usb wrote:

 Only one problem that I can see.  People who 
 don't know where they are
 or what time of day it is are probably not 
 interested paying money to
 find out.
 Not so much People who don't know as People 
 who don't care to know .
  The reductio-ad-absurdum is of course the 
 stopped clock which is
 accurate twice a day.

 As operators of precision electric equipment 
 that spews signals into
 the ether (to use an outdated term :) ) I 
 feel that we have an
 obligation to know stuff like that.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Button Box

2015-02-15 Thread jim



B I N G O  !!




-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David
Pratt
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 11:28 AM
To: David Ferrington, M0XDF
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Button Box


On 15 Feb 2015 19:18, David Ferrington, M0XDF m0...@alphadene.co.uk
wrote:

 Hmmm - what about us iMac lovers? 

Upgrade to a PC. That would solve a lot of compatability problems.

73 de David G4DMP
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Re: [Elecraft] KSYN3A - installation question

2015-02-15 Thread Harry Yingst via Elecraft
But what about us old Head bangers?




  From: Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com
 To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 4:29 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KSYN3A - installation question
   
It is quite easy to swap the synthesizer boards without removing the KRX3 
module. I did it blindfolded with a long-haired cat on my lap and the latest 
Tom Petty album blasting away.

Wayne
N6KR


On Feb 14, 2015, at 12:38 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote:

 
 I doubt it ... there is not all that much room between the front
 bulkhead and the edge of the KRX3 case.  In addition, Wayne mentioned
 the need to reroute some of the cables with may not be possible if
 the KRX3 is in place.
 
 73,
 
  ... Joe, W4TV
 
 
 On 2015-02-14 10:33 AM, Ken K3IU wrote:
 I believe that you should ne able to install both boards without
 removing the KRX3
 73, Ken K3IU
 
 On 2/14/2015 10:03 AM, Dauer, Edward wrote:
 First question that came to my mind when I saw the announcement was
 whether the KRX3 had to be removed and reinstalled in order to replace
 the
 synths.  I found installing the KRX3 exasperating when I assembled the K3
 - success came on about the 12th try.
 
 My K3 is 100 miles from where I am right now, so I looked at the
 photos in
 the K3 assembly manual and those in the new synth instructions, from
 which
 it appears that the swap could be done without removing the KRX3.  Could
 we confirm whether RR is required?  Message below says it is.
 
 If the sub does have to be RR¹d, anyone have suggestions about how to
 reinstall it without the major fuss I experienced?
 
 
 Ted, KN1CBR
 
 
 --
 
 Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 13:21:20 -0800
 From: Richard Thorpe kisso...@gmail.com
 To: Elecraft List elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] More KSYN3A
 Message-ID: 92f46418-caab-45a6-bfcd-f87860378...@gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
 
 I talked to Elecraft and you must remove the second receiver not just
 unplug it and remove its ?old? synth board.  . . .
 
 R Thorpe K6CG
 
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[Elecraft] Adjusting reference frequency some time after tx compensation

2015-02-15 Thread David Orman
Hi,

A while ago (months) I did the extended temperature compensation procedure
using the XG50, which seemed successful. I decided to tune up to 20MHz
recently, and noticed when in CW mode, if I ran spot (manual) I was off, by
a small margin (33Hz). I'm assuming this is normal as time goes on, is this
a correct assumption?

Second question: assuming it is normal, and I should periodically
re-calibrate using the XG50 or a known signal like WWV, is it safe to go to
ref cal in the menu, unlock it, and manually tune/zero beat to adjust the
frequency - without losing the calibration gained from doing the extended
temperature compensation procedure? I'd rather not have to repeat that
process any more than necessary, so I'm hoping the look-up table that
generates is for something like offset based on temperature and so remains
constant, and only the main reference calibration needs changing? I did
this to test, and the menu item is still 'REF*CAL'. Tapping CMP while in
this menu option, I have verified it is set to 'CUSTOM'.

I appreciate any feedback,
David
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[Elecraft] PX3 - odd 'missing' signal

2015-02-15 Thread David Orman
I've noticed on various modes/combinations of spans, I show some what look
like null regions. Sometimes it's right where I'm tuned, sometimes it's
offset. In this picture, I am tuned to 14.055.050, in CW mode, span is 2,
and there is a deep null area centered somewhere around 14.056.05.

In some modes, this is troublesome, especially when it's right on the
cursor where I am tuned. I must be doing something wrong, so would
appreciate any feedback you can give me regarding this / how to fix it.

Here's an image showing what I am talking about:
http://ormandj.corenode.com/images/radio/elecraft/px3-null.jpg

Thank you
David
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Button Box

2015-02-15 Thread Harry Yingst via Elecraft
I'd be interested in seeing what you have done (though I'm setup for the Atmel 
AVR Line)
I've been considering taking the easy way out and just getting a Genovation 
Keypad.
Thank you


  From: brian als...@nc.rr.com
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 1:44 PM
 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Button Box
   
N2TK suggested that I post this.

If anybody wants to try HBing an external button box for the K3, I 
have a 16 button design which uses a $5 PIC.
Sits next to my keyboard.

It connects to the K3 via serial port to the station computer.  K3 port 
sharing software is required.  Some free software products work.

Glad to send schematic , pix of final product and some notes.

No doubt a professional could create a better product but it works for 
me OK.

73 de Brian/K3KO
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Re: [Elecraft] KSYN3A - installation question

2015-02-15 Thread Wayne Burdick
It is quite easy to swap the synthesizer boards without removing the KRX3 
module. I did it blindfolded with a long-haired cat on my lap and the latest 
Tom Petty album blasting away.

Wayne
N6KR


On Feb 14, 2015, at 12:38 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote:

 
 I doubt it ... there is not all that much room between the front
 bulkhead and the edge of the KRX3 case.  In addition, Wayne mentioned
 the need to reroute some of the cables with may not be possible if
 the KRX3 is in place.
 
 73,
 
  ... Joe, W4TV
 
 
 On 2015-02-14 10:33 AM, Ken K3IU wrote:
 I believe that you should ne able to install both boards without
 removing the KRX3
 73, Ken K3IU
 
 On 2/14/2015 10:03 AM, Dauer, Edward wrote:
 First question that came to my mind when I saw the announcement was
 whether the KRX3 had to be removed and reinstalled in order to replace
 the
 synths.  I found installing the KRX3 exasperating when I assembled the K3
 - success came on about the 12th try.
 
 My K3 is 100 miles from where I am right now, so I looked at the
 photos in
 the K3 assembly manual and those in the new synth instructions, from
 which
 it appears that the swap could be done without removing the KRX3.  Could
 we confirm whether RR is required?  Message below says it is.
 
 If the sub does have to be RR¹d, anyone have suggestions about how to
 reinstall it without the major fuss I experienced?
 
 
 Ted, KN1CBR
 
 
 --
 
 Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 13:21:20 -0800
 From: Richard Thorpe kisso...@gmail.com
 To: Elecraft List elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] More KSYN3A
 Message-ID: 92f46418-caab-45a6-bfcd-f87860378...@gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
 
 I talked to Elecraft and you must remove the second receiver not just
 unplug it and remove its ?old? synth board.  . . .
 
 R Thorpe K6CG
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread Don Wilhelm

Phil,

I guess I am one of those don't care types much of the time :-) .

I have a watch on my wrist - it is used when I want to know what time it 
is.
I for one have no use for a clock in a radio.  If I am logging when 
portable, my watch tells me all I need to know and does not take up 
display space on the radio.
Usually I don't care what time it is unless I have an appointment - my 
stomach tells me when it is time to eat.  I am retired, and the work 
that I do is on my own schedule.


I usually know where I am, but if not, I try first to consult with a map 
- can't stand those GPS units that tell you what to do and where to turn 
- give me a map where I can see my to and from and I can navigate 
just fine, thank you.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/15/2015 3:04 PM, Phil Kane wrote:

On 2/15/2015 11:46 AM, bs usb wrote:


Only one problem that I can see.  People who don't know where they are
or what time of day it is are probably not interested paying money to
find out.

Not so much People who don't know as People who don't care to know .
  The reductio-ad-absurdum is of course the stopped clock which is
accurate twice a day.

As operators of precision electric equipment that spews signals into
the ether (to use an outdated term :) ) I feel that we have an
obligation to know stuff like that.




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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Button Box

2015-02-15 Thread hsherriff
I would be interested as well 

Harlan 
NC3C 


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div Original message /divdivFrom: Harry Yingst via 
Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net /divdivDate:02/15/2015  4:23 PM  
(GMT-05:00) /divdivTo: brian als...@nc.rr.com, elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
/divdivCc:  /divdivSubject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Button Box /divdiv
/divI'd be interested in seeing what you have done (though I'm setup for the 
Atmel AVR Line)
I've been considering taking the easy way out and just getting a Genovation 
Keypad.
Thank you


  From: brian als...@nc.rr.com
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 1:44 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Button Box
   
N2TK suggested that I post this.

If anybody wants to try HBing an external button box for the K3, I 
have a 16 button design which uses a $5 PIC.
Sits next to my keyboard.

It connects to the K3 via serial port to the station computer.  K3 port 
sharing software is required.  Some free software products work.

Glad to send schematic , pix of final product and some notes.

No doubt a professional could create a better product but it works for 
me OK.

73 de Brian/K3KO
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Button Box

2015-02-15 Thread Joshua Gould
Could something like this be adapted for us KX3 owners as well?

72,
Joshua Gould
K8WXA
EM89pn

KX3# 7465

On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 5:09 PM, hsherriff hsherr...@reagan.com wrote:

 I would be interested as well

 Harlan
 NC3C


 Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone

 div Original message /divdivFrom: Harry Yingst via
 Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net /divdivDate:02/15/2015  4:23 PM
 (GMT-05:00) /divdivTo: brian als...@nc.rr.com,
 elecraft@mailman.qth.net /divdivCc:  /divdivSubject: Re:
 [Elecraft] K3 Button Box /divdiv
 /divI'd be interested in seeing what you have done (though I'm setup for
 the Atmel AVR Line)
 I've been considering taking the easy way out and just getting a
 Genovation Keypad.
 Thank you


   From: brian als...@nc.rr.com
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 1:44 PM
 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Button Box

 N2TK suggested that I post this.

 If anybody wants to try HBing an external button box for the K3, I
 have a 16 button design which uses a $5 PIC.
 Sits next to my keyboard.

 It connects to the K3 via serial port to the station computer.  K3 port
 sharing software is required.  Some free software products work.

 Glad to send schematic , pix of final product and some notes.

 No doubt a professional could create a better product but it works for
 me OK.

 73 de Brian/K3KO
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Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip

2015-02-15 Thread Richard Gillingham

Here in South Florida, atomic clocks will not sync it all. 73,
 Gil W1RG

Sent via the Samsung Galaxy Note® 3, an ATT 4G LTE smartphone

div Original message /divdivFrom: Ken G Kopp 
kengk...@gmail.com /divdivDate:02/15/2015  1:25 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
/divdivTo: Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT k...@coldrockshotbrooms.com 
/divdivCc: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net, 
k...@yahoogroups.com /divdivSubject: Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip /divdiv
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Given the tiny size of atomic clock /  WWVB devices ... as in wrist
watches ... it would seem one could be integrated into both the K3 and KX3
and make the clock actually usable.

73

Ken - K0PP
On Feb 15, 2015 11:17 AM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT 
k...@coldrockshotbrooms.com wrote:

 In which radio?

 On 2/15/2015 9:52 AM, Jim Miller wrote:

 Elecraft, Please give us a replacement clock chip that will keep time.  An
 adjust method for what we have?


 Thanks, Jim KG0KP

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Re: [Elecraft] PX3 - odd 'missing' signal

2015-02-15 Thread Chris Thompson
It's an artifact of the architecture of the radio - the Zero-hz crossover.

You can move it by changing the menu item RX SHFT from Nor to 8.0.
This is a per-band setting.

Be aware that changing RX SHFT prevents using the Dual-Watch receiver, and
takes the Roofing Filter out of play (if installed).

Another method to move the artifact when working CW is to use CW Rev. This
will shift the artifact to the other side of your VFO A cursor.

73,
Chris K4HC

Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 19:23:16 -0500 (EST)
From: d...@lightstream.net d...@lightstream.net
To: David Orman orma...@corenode.com
Cc: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PX3 - odd 'missing' signal
Message-ID:
64786.71.74.118.201.1424046196.squir...@mail.expedient.net
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1

I have noticed this null as well. In SSB mode, the null is right at the
carrier frequency. In CW mode, the null is offset from the carrier
frequency by the amount of the sidetone pitch. Engaging ALT switches the
null to the other side of the carrier, again by the amount of the sidetone
pitch.

I don't recall seeing this on earlier versions of the firmware (though
that doesn't mean it wasn't there)

Firmware versions here are:

PX3
Firmware version: 01.16

KX3:
uC: 02.30
dsP: 01.32

73, Dale
WA8SRA




 I've noticed on various modes/combinations of spans, I show some what look
 like null regions. Sometimes it's right where I'm tuned, sometimes it's
 offset. In this picture, I am tuned to 14.055.050, in CW mode, span is 2,
 and there is a deep null area centered somewhere around 14.056.05.

 In some modes, this is troublesome, especially when it's right on the
 cursor where I am tuned. I must be doing something wrong, so would
 appreciate any feedback you can give me regarding this / how to fix it.

 Here's an image showing what I am talking about:
 http://ormandj.corenode.com/images/radio/elecraft/px3-null.jpg

 Thank you
 David


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