[Elecraft] PR6 preamp & KXV3-2 if out/ I/O for sale

[bill NY9H]

6 meter  preamp   for K3   85$   shipped usa

KXV3-2  if out...great for panadapter   / I/O  for 6 meter preamp
   60$   shipped usa

too many parts accumulating around here.


bill steffey  ny9h

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Re: [Elecraft] clifton laboratories Z10000 still available?

[Wayne, W5XD]

Well, I called the phone number on the website. Jack answered the phone
himself
and informed me that he is unable to fill any more orders. I did not ask any
personal questions, but it sounded to me like he has other things going on
that prevent his attention to helping hobbyists.

So the question of the group is whether there is another solution?

I fail to find a parts list or circuit diagram on
http://www.cliftonlaboratories.com.
Does someone else see it? I don't mind tracking down parts and
breadboarding,
but I need a little more info to make progress on this.

Wayne

On 10/13/2015 19:26, Wayne, W5XD wrote:
> I want to build a SoftRock panadapter for my K2, and understand from
> http://www.cliftonlaboratories.com/k2_interface.htm its advisable to put
> an amplifier between the K2 IF tap and the SoftRock, and its their
> Z1 recommended.
>
> But I don't get any answers to emails to the address on that page.
> Does anyone know how to get a Z1 or equivalent for the K2?
>
> My apologies if everyone on this list has seen the answers before--I
> tried searching archives, but failed to anything on
> http://mailman.qth.net/ that enabled searching this list...other than
> clicking on every single posting in the archive...which I did not
> do...If you know how to search, tell me that, too.
>
> Thanks,
> Wayne, W5XD

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Vs. 2nd RX

[David Cole]

That is exactly how I got V73D as well...  Watching him on the P3 work
people, and pre-positioning myself in front of him...
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On Wed, 2015-10-14 at 07:09 -0700, Mike K2MK wrote:
> Hi Dave,
> 
> As you described, having both a Sub RX and a P3 are a great asset for
> working split operations. One area where the P3 excels is finding a quiet
> spot to transmit. It's not always as obvious with the Sub RX. With a modest
> station it may not be beneficial to jump on the exact frequency of the last
> QSO. A clear frequency can be a better choice.
> 
> 73,
> Mike K2MK
> 
> 
> 
> dyarnes-2 wrote
> > Hi All,
> > 
> > I just worked V73D, but not sure how I would have done it without using
> > the 
> > 2nd RX.  I love my P3, but for DX stuff the 2nd RX always seems to be the 
> > difference.  In this case, V73D was moving up slightly after just about 
> > every QSO, and not sure the P3 tells you that!  The DX clusters don't
> > really 
> > help that much.  By the time you see the split indicated, it has probably 
> > changed a good bit.  If I didn't have the 2nd RX, I would be dependent on 
> > "outhouse luck" or brute force, neither of which is a strong suit here! 
> > Hi. 
> > By the way, my QSO's with the TX3X gang were also quick and relatively
> > easy 
> > thanks to the 2nd RX.  Anyway, both tools are great, but I suggest adding 
> > the 2nd RX first, if only one can be added at the moment--at least if 
> > working DX is your goal.
> > 
> > Dave W7AQK 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Vs. 2nd RX

[Bill Frantz]

On 10/14/15 at 6:27 AM, w7...@cox.net (w7aqk) wrote:

I just worked V73D, but not sure how I would have done it 
without using the 2nd RX.  I love my P3, but for DX stuff the 
2nd RX always seems to be the difference.


I find the P3 is really good for finding the DX in the first 
place. (I am frequently in places with no Internet access.) A DX 
pileup has a special look on the P3 with one (weak) station 
transmitting and then the pileup coming back (except for the 
ones who aren't listening to the DX and are just transmitting). 
I agree with Mike that the P3 is also good for finding an open 
place to transmit, particularly valuable when doing RTTY.


OTOH, I have a brand new 2nd receiver and diversity was 
wonderful in the California QSO party. It beats the REV button 
hands down. I would go with the P3 first. HIHI


73 Bill AE6JV

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[Elecraft] PX3/P3SVGA Compatible USB Keyboard List

[Paul Saffren N6HZ]

With the release of PX3 BETA firmware 1.35, several customers have inquired
about which USB keyboard are compatible with the PX3 and P3/SVGA.  Here's a
short list of keyboards several customers and I have tested.  (see below) 
If you're using a keyboard that is not on this list, please email me
directly and include the make and model if possible.  (pauls at you know
where dot com)

73 and thanks, 

Paul

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PX3 suggested keyboard list 
© 2015 Elecraft Inc 
Keyboards listed were available when this list was created and have been
tested with the PX3/P3SVGA  

Note: most "PC BIOS compatible" keyboards will work.  In other words, the
keyboard must be able to be recognized by the PC BIOS.  This
rules out Bluetooth and multimedia style keyboards, those with mice,
touchpads, and multimedia functions.



Model NumberManufacturerStyle/Notes 

K360LogitechWireless
K270LogitechWireless, separate keypad   
K120LogitechWired   
KB212   Dellwired, full size, came with PC  
Monoprice Flexible  Monoprice   Wired, available on Ebay
MK360   Logitechwireless, inludes mouse 
KU-1060 HP  wired, full size, came with PC  
SK-2085 HP  wired, full size , came with PC 
KB113p  Dellwired, med size, came with PC   

"78 Key USB Slim Mini Small Thin Keyboard Compact Desktop Laptop PC Win 7
White"  Ebay




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Re: [Elecraft] clifton laboratories Z10000 still available?

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

Documentation on both the "universal" and K2 versions of the Z1
are still available on Jack's web site - check the documents link:
   http://cliftonlaboratories.com/Documents.htm

If the parts are available in suitable form, one can reasonably
breadboard a Z1 from the documentation provided.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 10/13/2015 3:26 PM, Wayne, W5XD wrote:

I want to build a SoftRock panadapter for my K2, and understand from
http://www.cliftonlaboratories.com/k2_interface.htm its advisable to put
an amplifier between the K2 IF tap and the SoftRock, and its their
Z1 recommended.

But I don't get any answers to emails to the address on that page.
Does anyone know how to get a Z1 or equivalent for the K2?

My apologies if everyone on this list has seen the answers before--I
tried searching archives, but failed to anything on
http://mailman.qth.net/ that enabled searching this list...other than
clicking on every single posting in the archive...which I did not
do...If you know how to search, tell me that, too.

Thanks,
Wayne, W5XD
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[Elecraft] KX3-PX3 orientaion Trial

[kk5na]

I have found a new orientation for my KX3/PX3vertical.

See pictures here: http://www.kk5na.com/KX3-vert.htm

Modified SOTA stand and plastic model case base attached.
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Re: [Elecraft] ACC jack

[Jack Brindle]

As Eric notes, it is perfectly permissible to daisy-chain the Y adapters. I 
would suggest using the ACC signals with the KAT500/KPA500 combination. This is 
needed for the KAT500 to follow the K3S’s frequency during receive, something I 
think you will find to be very valuable in use. Having the KPA500 connected 
through the ACC interface is also very valuable, allowing the KPA to also 
switch bands along with the K3S instead of waiting for RF. The ACC cables that 
came with the KPA500 and KAT500 should be used to interconnect those devices - 
they have a few signals removed as described in the KPA500 manual.

So, go ahead and use the Y adapters as needed. Be sure they are 
straight-through signals - that is don’t use VGA-style adapters and cables. 
These do not connect each pin straight-through end to end and will not function 
satisfactorily. Besides Elecraft, there are sources that sell these cables, 
just make sure they are not VGA cables when you purchase and use them.

73!

Jack Brindle, W6FB

> On Oct 12, 2015, at 8:40 AM, j...@kk9a.com wrote:
> 
> I am setting up my newly purchased K3S and I have three devices that use
> the same ACC jack on the transceiver. I use a Top Ten Band Decoder for
> switching antennas and filters, a MicroHAM DigiKeyer II for CW and RTTY
> and an Elecraft KAP500/KAT500 linear amplifier and tuner. The Band Decoder
> and DigiKeyer II interface well individually with the K3S, I have yet to
> try the amplifier ACC cable. How can I run all three devices
> simultaneously though the single K3S ACC jack?  Elecraft supplied a Y
> adapter with the amplifier cable.  Do I need another Y, is is safe to
> connect all of these together with Y's?  Is there a better solution?
> 
> 73,
> John KK9A
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Re: [Elecraft] PX3 firmware 1.35 BETA available, USB keyboard

[David Anderson]

A big thanks Paul !

73

David Anderson GM4JJJ 

> On 13 Oct 2015, at 21:40, Paul Saffren N6HZ  wrote:
> 
> PX3 firmware version 1.35 beta is now available for download from the
> Elecraft website.  Follow the link on how to download and install beta
> firmware to your PX3 ->  HERE
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Re: [Elecraft] clifton laboratories Z10000 still available?

[David Anderson]

Perhaps this?

http://g4hup.com/PAT.htm

73

David Anderson GM4JJJ 

> On 14 Oct 2015, at 16:21, Wayne, W5XD  wrote:
> 
> Well, I called the phone number on the website. Jack answered the phone
> himself
> and informed me that he is unable to fill any more orders. I did not ask any
> personal questions, but it sounded to me like he has other things going on
> that prevent his attention to helping hobbyists.
> 
> So the question of the group is whether there is another solution?
> 
> I fail to find a parts list or circuit diagram on
> http://www.cliftonlaboratories.com.
> Does someone else see it? I don't mind tracking down parts and
> breadboarding,
> but I need a little more info to make progress on this.
> 
> Wayne
> 
>> On 10/13/2015 19:26, Wayne, W5XD wrote:
>> I want to build a SoftRock panadapter for my K2, and understand from
>> http://www.cliftonlaboratories.com/k2_interface.htm its advisable to put
>> an amplifier between the K2 IF tap and the SoftRock, and its their
>> Z1 recommended.
>> 
>> But I don't get any answers to emails to the address on that page.
>> Does anyone know how to get a Z1 or equivalent for the K2?
>> 
>> My apologies if everyone on this list has seen the answers before--I
>> tried searching archives, but failed to anything on
>> http://mailman.qth.net/ that enabled searching this list...other than
>> clicking on every single posting in the archive...which I did not
>> do...If you know how to search, tell me that, too.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Wayne, W5XD
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[Elecraft] New Product Idea - 2 Meter

[Jose Rivera]

I humbly submit the following product idea to Elecraft. 

 

A two meter all mode radio, encased in the current KX3 body. All the components 
of this radio are already
being made by Elecraft, except for a needed ATU. Suggested price $500. I'd also 
recommend making it at least
25-50 watts output. If 70cm can be added, so much the better.

 

Jose B Rivera 

N2LRB

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https://twitter.com/N2LRB

www.facebook.com/N2LRB

 

 

 

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Vs. 2nd RX

[David Cole]

Then just wait for some poor person to transmit on top of the DX, in
error, and look for all the band cops sending UP UP UP, and you can find
the DX frequency as well.  :)
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On Wed, 2015-10-14 at 10:03 -0700, Bill Frantz wrote:
> On 10/14/15 at 6:27 AM, w7...@cox.net (w7aqk) wrote:
> 
> >I just worked V73D, but not sure how I would have done it 
> >without using the 2nd RX.  I love my P3, but for DX stuff the 
> >2nd RX always seems to be the difference.
> 
> I find the P3 is really good for finding the DX in the first 
> place. (I am frequently in places with no Internet access.) A DX 
> pileup has a special look on the P3 with one (weak) station 
> transmitting and then the pileup coming back (except for the 
> ones who aren't listening to the DX and are just transmitting). 
> I agree with Mike that the P3 is also good for finding an open 
> place to transmit, particularly valuable when doing RTTY.
> 
> OTOH, I have a brand new 2nd receiver and diversity was 
> wonderful in the California QSO party. It beats the REV button 
> hands down. I would go with the P3 first. HIHI
> 
> 73 Bill AE6JV
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] New Product Idea - 2 Meter

[Jessie Oberreuter]

 H, a K3 version of a Yaesu FT-736?  I would be seriously down for 
that!



On Wed, 14 Oct 2015, Fred Smith wrote:


Excellent idea except for power output a 100w for an all mode would be good but 
in a K3s cabinet and  many of its features.

Fred N0AZZ


Sent from my iPad


On Oct 14, 2015, at 1:02 PM, Jose Rivera  wrote:

I humbly submit the following product idea to Elecraft.



A two meter all mode radio, encased in the current KX3 body. All the components 
of this radio are already
being made by Elecraft, except for a needed ATU. Suggested price $500. I'd also 
recommend making it at least
25-50 watts output. If 70cm can be added, so much the better.



Jose B Rivera

N2LRB

www.n2lrb.com

https://twitter.com/N2LRB

www.facebook.com/N2LRB







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Re: [Elecraft] clifton laboratories Z10000 still available?

[Val]

Wayne,

Look for Z1 Manual on the Jack's site. The circuit diagram can be 
found there.

Some time ago I breadboard this amplifier using junk box parts.

73, Val LZ1VB





I fail to find a parts list or circuit diagram on
http://www.cliftonlaboratories.com.
Does someone else see it? I don't mind tracking down parts and
breadboarding,
but I need a little more info to make progress on this.

Wayne

On 10/13/2015 19:26, Wayne, W5XD wrote:
I want to build a SoftRock panadapter for my K2, and understand 
from
http://www.cliftonlaboratories.com/k2_interface.htm its advisable 
to put

an amplifier between the K2 IF tap and the SoftRock, and its their
Z1 recommended.

But I don't get any answers to emails to the address on that page.
Does anyone know how to get a Z1 or equivalent for the K2?

My apologies if everyone on this list has seen the answers 
before--I

tried searching archives, but failed to anything on
http://mailman.qth.net/ that enabled searching this list...other 
than

clicking on every single posting in the archive...which I did not
do...If you know how to search, tell me that, too.

Thanks,
Wayne, W5XD


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Re: [Elecraft] New Product Idea - 2 Meter

[Richard Kendrick]

If you're going to go multi-band VHF/UHF, including 220 MHz would be very nice.

Richard N7NT


On Oct 14, 2015, at 1:31 PM, Fred Smith  wrote:

> Excellent idea except for power output a 100w for an all mode would be good 
> but in a K3s cabinet and  many of its features.
> 
> Fred N0AZZ
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Oct 14, 2015, at 1:02 PM, Jose Rivera  wrote:
>> 
>> I humbly submit the following product idea to Elecraft. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> A two meter all mode radio, encased in the current KX3 body. All the 
>> components of this radio are already
>> being made by Elecraft, except for a needed ATU. Suggested price $500. I'd 
>> also recommend making it at least
>> 25-50 watts output. If 70cm can be added, so much the better.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Jose B Rivera 
>> 
>> N2LRB
>> 
>> www.n2lrb.com
>> 
>> https://twitter.com/N2LRB
>> 
>> www.facebook.com/N2LRB
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Vs. 2nd RX

[Ken]

I wonder if a CW skimmer would work as well or even better, assuming 
that it can pick out the call signs.  Of course that would only work for 
CW DX.


Ken WA8JXM

On 10/14/15 9:27 AM, w7aqk wrote:
I just worked V73D, but not sure how I would have done it without 
using the 2nd RX.  I love my P3, but for DX stuff the 2nd RX always 
seems to be the difference.  In this case, V73D was moving up slightly 
after just about every QSO, and not sure the P3 tells you that!  The 
DX clusters don't really help that much.  By the time you see the 
split indicated, it has probably changed a good bit.  If I didn't have 
the 2nd RX, I would be dependent on "outhouse luck" or brute force, 
neither of which is a strong suit here!  Hi. By the way, my QSO's with 
the TX3X gang were also quick and relatively easy thanks to the 2nd 
RX.  Anyway, both tools are great, but I suggest adding the 2nd RX 
first, if only one can be added at the moment--at least if working DX 
is your goal. 


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Re: [Elecraft] New Product Idea - 2 Meter

[Fred Smith]

Excellent idea except for power output a 100w for an all mode would be good but 
in a K3s cabinet and  many of its features.

Fred N0AZZ
 

Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 14, 2015, at 1:02 PM, Jose Rivera  wrote:
> 
> I humbly submit the following product idea to Elecraft. 
> 
> 
> 
> A two meter all mode radio, encased in the current KX3 body. All the 
> components of this radio are already
> being made by Elecraft, except for a needed ATU. Suggested price $500. I'd 
> also recommend making it at least
> 25-50 watts output. If 70cm can be added, so much the better.
> 
> 
> 
> Jose B Rivera 
> 
> N2LRB
> 
> www.n2lrb.com
> 
> https://twitter.com/N2LRB
> 
> www.facebook.com/N2LRB
> 
> 
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[Elecraft] Brown Bros. CTL-B paddles/key with K3

[Steven Bertsch]

Anyone using Brown Brothers CTL-B paddles/key with a K3? If so, how did you 
connect it?

Steve, K6SAB


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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Remote Operating from Assisted Living

[F5vjc]

Why not add simulated QRM, QRN, QSB, COPS, LID's etc?
Much more fun...

73,  Deni - F5VJC



On 13 October 2015 at 12:44, Bill  wrote:

> I have a bunch of ham friends that no longer have antennas (HOA,
> apartments, assisted living, etc.) and we communicate nearly every day
> using CQ100.
>
> CQ100 is a looks like , works like, licensed required, ham communications
> VOIP system.  It does not need super fast Internet connection. If you can
> run a browser and watch YouTube - you can run CQ100. No QRM, QRN, or
> fade-outs. You also can send pictures (cartoons, scans, etc.) to those you
> are in QSO with.
>
> I use HF and CQ100 on a daily basis. It is for communications (nets, rag
> chewing, camaraderie, etc.) - and does a fine job. It is not for
> contesting. I even operate on one net in the northeast that starts out on
> 75 meters, then goes to CQ100 to include some folks down south that no
> longer have HF capabilities.
>
> Yeah I know - you don't like it because it isn't real radio. OK - then go
> back to your ceramic class and sing-alongs.
>
> For the rest of you, looking to enjoy ham radio when you no longer can
> have a real station:  http://www.qsonet.com/index.html
>
> CQ100 is a subscription based system, and, for me, the cheapest ham fun I
> ever bought.
>
> I get nothing for speaking well about CQ100 - I just happen to believe in
> it and its potential.
>
> Bill W2BLC K-Line
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] New Product Idea - 2 Meter

[Charlie T, K3ICH]

I'd give that another big  "H".

A 21 century FT-736  the size of a K3...???

144, 222, 432 & maybe 1296 optional.  Where do I
sign?

It would certainly be more convenient than a bunch
of transverters.

I don't think it would have to run much power to
be useful since anyone serious is gonna have some
big amps anyway.

In the effort of compactness, maybe 5 to 10 watts
tri-band + a couple watts on 1296 as a field
installable option.

73, Charlie k3ICH

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On
Behalf Of Jessie Oberreuter
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 4:44 PM
To: Fred Smith 
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; n2...@n2lrb.com
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New Product Idea - 2 Meter


  H, a K3 version of a Yaesu FT-736?  I
would be seriously down for that!


On Wed, 14 Oct 2015, Fred Smith wrote:

> Excellent idea except for power output a 100w
for an all mode would be good but in a K3s cabinet
and  many of its features.
>
> Fred N0AZZ
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Oct 14, 2015, at 1:02 PM, Jose Rivera
 wrote:
>>
>> I humbly submit the following product idea to
Elecraft.
>>
>>
>>
>> A two meter all mode radio, encased in the
current KX3 body. All the components of this radio
are already
>> being made by Elecraft, except for a needed
ATU. Suggested price $500. I'd also recommend
making it at least
>> 25-50 watts output. If 70cm can be added, so
much the better.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jose B Rivera
>>
>> N2LRB
>>
>> www.n2lrb.com
>>
>> https://twitter.com/N2LRB
>>
>> www.facebook.com/N2LRB
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S - Method to print K3/K3S configuration files fromK3 Utility

[Terry Schieler]

I have Snip and use it a lot, but it doesn't "scroll" for long documents.

Terry, W0FM

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 6:00 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
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Utility

  Snip is also a part of Windows 7. It a lot more tedious than Print but it can 
be done.
W1ZK

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Re: [Elecraft] K3S - Method to print K3/K3S configuration files from K3 Utility

[Tom]

For those of you using Win4k3Suite, you can export most menu and tech mode 
settings as well as operating parameters to a file. This file is an XML file, 
and can be opened in notepad and printed.
Not the most fancy presentation but it does provide a hard copy.
73 Tom

Sent from BlueMail



On Oct 13, 2015, 5:50 PM, at 5:50 PM, Rick Bates  
wrote:
>This may help some...
>
>http://na6m.com/EZ-K3/
>
>The version I have installed does NOT provide any print options, but
>printing screen shots would provide copious info...
>
>As it is no longer supported, I'm also SURE that it won't cover any
>menu/feature additions since the last issue.  Closer is better than
>nothing.
>
>Rick nhc
>> 
>>> On 10/13/2015 11:28 AM, Terry Schieler wrote:
>>> Hi Rick,
>>> 
>>> I recall having a copy of K3EZ at one point, but deleted it after
>learning it was no longer supported and the K3 Utility became
>available.  I never knew I might like to copy the configuration files
>in text so I could crawl into my lounger, with my K3 manual (and my
>favorite adult beverage) and casually compare my settings with the
>published defaults.  Who would have thought that the radio would evolve
>to a state that there were so many menu settings and options?
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> 
>>> Terry, W0FM
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] New Product Idea - 2 Meter

[Jim Lowman]

Yes, I have a Kenwood TS-2000X, which is good for 100 watts on 6m and 
2m, 50 watts on 432 MHz and 10 watts on 1296 MHz.  I bought it for that 
purpose.


The only thing missing is the 222 MHz band, and the only activity on 
that band in this, the second-largest metropolitan area in the US, is 
during contests, and most of that is on FM. Apparently that was not the 
case here, 10 or so years ago.  I don't think your IC-9100 does 222 MHz, 
either.


With a K3S, I wouldn't even consider using the TS-2000X on HF.

73 de Jim - AD6CW

On 10/14/2015 3:03 PM, Fred Smith wrote:

The 100w would give you more choice of amps and running without one for a lot 
of modes. I have an IC-9100 and it does all of those bands plus HF and D-Star. 
But a K line one would be very appealing.

Fred N0AZZ

Sent from my iPad


On Oct 14, 2015, at 4:49 PM, Charlie T, K3ICH  wrote:

I'd give that another big  "H".

A 21 century FT-736  the size of a K3...???

144, 222, 432 & maybe 1296 optional.  Where do I
sign?

It would certainly be more convenient than a bunch
of transverters.

I don't think it would have to run much power to
be useful since anyone serious is gonna have some
big amps anyway.

In the effort of compactness, maybe 5 to 10 watts
tri-band + a couple watts on 1296 as a field
installable option.

73, Charlie k3ICH

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On
Behalf Of Jessie Oberreuter
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 4:44 PM
To: Fred Smith 
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; n2...@n2lrb.com
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New Product Idea - 2 Meter


  H, a K3 version of a Yaesu FT-736?  I
would be seriously down for that!



On Wed, 14 Oct 2015, Fred Smith wrote:

Excellent idea except for power output a 100w

for an all mode would be good but in a K3s cabinet
and  many of its features.


Fred N0AZZ


Sent from my iPad


On Oct 14, 2015, at 1:02 PM, Jose Rivera

 wrote:


I humbly submit the following product idea to

Elecraft.




A two meter all mode radio, encased in the

current KX3 body. All the components of this radio
are already

being made by Elecraft, except for a needed

ATU. Suggested price $500. I'd also recommend
making it at least

25-50 watts output. If 70cm can be added, so

much the better.




Jose B Rivera

N2LRB

www.n2lrb.com

https://twitter.com/N2LRB

www.facebook.com/N2LRB

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Re: [Elecraft] New Product Idea - 2 Meter

[Ken G Kopp]

An all-mode VHF/UHF, 30 to 50 watt radio in a KX3 - sized box?  (;-)

73 - K0PP
On Oct 14, 2015 2:40 PM, "Richard Kendrick"  wrote:

> If you're going to go multi-band VHF/UHF, including 220 MHz would be very
> nice.
>
> Richard N7NT
>
>
> On Oct 14, 2015, at 1:31 PM, Fred Smith  wrote:
>
> > Excellent idea except for power output a 100w for an all mode would be
> good but in a K3s cabinet and  many of its features.
> >
> > Fred N0AZZ
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> >> On Oct 14, 2015, at 1:02 PM, Jose Rivera  wrote:
> >>
> >> I humbly submit the following product idea to Elecraft.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> A two meter all mode radio, encased in the current KX3 body. All the
> components of this radio are already
> >> being made by Elecraft, except for a needed ATU. Suggested price $500.
> I'd also recommend making it at least
> >> 25-50 watts output. If 70cm can be added, so much the better.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Jose B Rivera
> >>
> >> N2LRB
> >>
> >> www.n2lrb.com
> >>
> >> https://twitter.com/N2LRB
> >>
> >> www.facebook.com/N2LRB
> >>
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> >>
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Re: [Elecraft] New Product Idea - 2 Meter

[Rose]

Everyone seems to have missed that the original poster is wanting all this
in a
KX3  repeat, a KX3  housing.  Most seem to have missed / ignored
this. (;-(

73

Ken - K0PP
On Oct 14, 2015 4:44 PM, "Jim Lowman"  wrote:

> Yes, I have a Kenwood TS-2000X, which is good for 100 watts on 6m and 2m,
> 50 watts on 432 MHz and 10 watts on 1296 MHz.  I bought it for that purpose.
>
> The only thing missing is the 222 MHz band, and the only activity on that
> band in this, the second-largest metropolitan area in the US, is during
> contests, and most of that is on FM. Apparently that was not the case here,
> 10 or so years ago.  I don't think your IC-9100 does 222 MHz, either.
>
> With a K3S, I wouldn't even consider using the TS-2000X on HF.
>
> 73 de Jim - AD6CW
>
> On 10/14/2015 3:03 PM, Fred Smith wrote:
>
>> The 100w would give you more choice of amps and running without one for a
>> lot of modes. I have an IC-9100 and it does all of those bands plus HF and
>> D-Star. But a K line one would be very appealing.
>>
>> Fred N0AZZ
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Oct 14, 2015, at 4:49 PM, Charlie T, K3ICH  wrote:
>>>
>>> I'd give that another big  "H".
>>>
>>> A 21 century FT-736  the size of a K3...???
>>>
>>> 144, 222, 432 & maybe 1296 optional.  Where do I
>>> sign?
>>>
>>> It would certainly be more convenient than a bunch
>>> of transverters.
>>>
>>> I don't think it would have to run much power to
>>> be useful since anyone serious is gonna have some
>>> big amps anyway.
>>>
>>> In the effort of compactness, maybe 5 to 10 watts
>>> tri-band + a couple watts on 1296 as a field
>>> installable option.
>>>
>>> 73, Charlie k3ICH
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Elecraft
>>> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On
>>> Behalf Of Jessie Oberreuter
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 4:44 PM
>>> To: Fred Smith 
>>> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; n2...@n2lrb.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New Product Idea - 2 Meter
>>>
>>>
>>>   H, a K3 version of a Yaesu FT-736?  I
>>> would be seriously down for that!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 14 Oct 2015, Fred Smith wrote:

 Excellent idea except for power output a 100w

>>> for an all mode would be good but in a K3s cabinet
>>> and  many of its features.
>>>

 Fred N0AZZ


 Sent from my iPad

 On Oct 14, 2015, at 1:02 PM, Jose Rivera
>
  wrote:
>>>

> I humbly submit the following product idea to
>
 Elecraft.
>>>

>
>
> A two meter all mode radio, encased in the
>
 current KX3 body. All the components of this radio
>>> are already
>>>
 being made by Elecraft, except for a needed
>
 ATU. Suggested price $500. I'd also recommend
>>> making it at least
>>>
 25-50 watts output. If 70cm can be added, so
>
 much the better.
>>>

>
>
> Jose B Rivera
>
> N2LRB
>
> www.n2lrb.com
>
> https://twitter.com/N2LRB
>
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Re: [Elecraft] PX3/P3SVGA Compatible USB Keyboard List

[Irwin Darack]

On Wednesday, October 14, 2015, Paul Saffren N6HZ 
wrote:

> With the release of PX3 BETA firmware 1.35, several customers have inquired
> about which USB keyboard are compatible with the PX3 and P3/SVGA.  Here's a
> short list of keyboards several customers and I have tested.  (see below)
> If you're using a keyboard that is not on this list, please email me
> directly and include the make and model if possible.  (pauls at you know
> where dot com)
>
> 73 and thanks,
>
> Paul
>
> -
>
> PX3 suggested keyboard list
> © 2015 Elecraft Inc
> Keyboards listed were available when this list was created and have been
> tested with the PX3/P3SVGA
>
> Note: most "PC BIOS compatible" keyboards will work.  In other words, the
> keyboard must be able to be recognized by the PC BIOS.  This
> rules out Bluetooth and multimedia style keyboards, those with mice,
> touchpads, and multimedia functions.
>
>
>
> Model NumberManufacturerStyle/Notes
>
> K360LogitechWireless
> K270LogitechWireless, separate keypad
> K120LogitechWired
> KB212   Dellwired, full size, came with PC
> Monoprice Flexible  Monoprice   Wired, available on Ebay
> MK360   Logitechwireless, inludes mouse
> KU-1060 HP  wired, full size, came with PC
> SK-2085 HP  wired, full size , came with PC
> KB113p  Dellwired, med size, came with PC
>
> "78 Key USB Slim Mini Small Thin Keyboard Compact Desktop Laptop PC Win 7
> White"  Ebay
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Re: [Elecraft] New Product Idea - 2 Meter

[Fred Smith]

The 100w would give you more choice of amps and running without one for a lot 
of modes. I have an IC-9100 and it does all of those bands plus HF and D-Star. 
But a K line one would be very appealing.

Fred N0AZZ

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> On Oct 14, 2015, at 4:49 PM, Charlie T, K3ICH  wrote:
> 
> I'd give that another big  "H".
> 
> A 21 century FT-736  the size of a K3...???
> 
> 144, 222, 432 & maybe 1296 optional.  Where do I
> sign?
> 
> It would certainly be more convenient than a bunch
> of transverters.
> 
> I don't think it would have to run much power to
> be useful since anyone serious is gonna have some
> big amps anyway.
> 
> In the effort of compactness, maybe 5 to 10 watts
> tri-band + a couple watts on 1296 as a field
> installable option.
> 
> 73, Charlie k3ICH
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft
> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On
> Behalf Of Jessie Oberreuter
> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 4:44 PM
> To: Fred Smith 
> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; n2...@n2lrb.com
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New Product Idea - 2 Meter
> 
> 
>  H, a K3 version of a Yaesu FT-736?  I
> would be seriously down for that!
> 
> 
>> On Wed, 14 Oct 2015, Fred Smith wrote:
>> 
>> Excellent idea except for power output a 100w
> for an all mode would be good but in a K3s cabinet
> and  many of its features.
>> 
>> Fred N0AZZ
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Oct 14, 2015, at 1:02 PM, Jose Rivera
>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I humbly submit the following product idea to
> Elecraft.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A two meter all mode radio, encased in the
> current KX3 body. All the components of this radio
> are already
>>> being made by Elecraft, except for a needed
> ATU. Suggested price $500. I'd also recommend
> making it at least
>>> 25-50 watts output. If 70cm can be added, so
> much the better.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jose B Rivera
>>> 
>>> N2LRB
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Re: [Elecraft] Brown Bros. CTL-B paddles/key with K3

[Marc Veeneman]

Facing the connectors (that is, looking at the back of the base) the connectors 
are, left to right:

Key

Dash  

Common

Dot


Bizarre, isn’t it?  I often wondered what they were thinking.  I guess you have 
to look at the paddles first and think of the common as being centered.  Then 
the key line must be the one at the key end.

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> On Oct 14, 2015, at 5:31 PM, David Bunte  wrote:
> 
> Steve -
> 
> I don't have a the CTL-B now, but did many years ago.  The connection is
> very straight forward.,, but you did not state if you use an external
> keyer, or the keyer in the K3.  If using an external keyer wire the paddle
> portion of the CTL-B for the connector required by the paddle input of your
> keyer.  The output of the keyer will go to the KEY input of the K3, but you
> will want to use a 1/4" mono 'Y' cable (two female, to one male), so you
> can connect the straight key portion of the CTL-B in parallel with the line
> from the keyer.
> 
> If you are using the keyer built into the K3 it is still very straight
> forward.  Wire the paddle to a 1/4" stereo plug, and plug it into the
> PADDLE input of the K3.  Wire the straight key portion of the CTL-B to a
> 1/4" plug and plug it into the KEY input of the K3.
> 
> 
> Best of luck.
> 
> Dave - K9FN
> 
>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Steven Bertsch  wrote:
>> 
>> Anyone using Brown Brothers CTL-B paddles/key with a K3? If so, how did
>> you connect it?
>> 
>> Steve, K6SAB
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] New Product Idea - 2 Meter

[Jim Lowman]

At the Elecraft presentation that Eric did at Pacificon last year, I 
threw out this exact idea for his consideration.


Given that Elecraft already has the technology to produce tranverters 
for the K2 and K3 for 2m, 222 MHz and 432 MHz, I suggested a single box 
to contain all three bands, all modes, and with a minimum of 50 watts 
output.


Eric was receptive to the concept, but said he didn't think that there 
would be a large enough market for such a transceiver.  He's also the 
business guy with Elecraft, so I have to believe what he said.


Submitting the idea to the list a while back, the general consensus 
seemed to agree, adding that the VHF/UHF weak-signal operator pool is 
shrinking.


The discussion is in the archives.

73 de Jim - AD6CW

On 10/14/2015 1:51 PM, Ken G Kopp wrote:

An all-mode VHF/UHF, 30 to 50 watt radio in a KX3 - sized box?  (;-)

73 - K0PP
On Oct 14, 2015 2:40 PM, "Richard Kendrick"  wrote:


If you're going to go multi-band VHF/UHF, including 220 MHz would be very
nice.

Richard N7NT

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Re: [Elecraft] New Product Idea - 2 Meter

[Fred Smith]

Thank God for Icom then I guess my 9100 works fine on all bands but wasted my 
money on the 1296 module very little use there. 

Fred N0AZZ

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> On Oct 14, 2015, at 5:27 PM, Jim Lowman  wrote:
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> Given

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[Elecraft] K3S Extenal Stereo Speakers

[Irwin Darack]

A speaker volume question.

My set up:  I have a pair of Polk miniature (non powered) stereo speakers
plugged into my K3S.  I plug my headphones into the front connector and
have the Config menu set up so that if the headphones are plugged in, no
sound comes from the stereo speakers.

I find that the volume in the headphones is much higher than the stereo
speakers when the AF audio is the same.  I am wondering if there is a
setting in either the Menu or Config settings to equalize this or adjust
for the difference without having to constantly adjust the AF setting?

Finally, it could just be that I need to find a better set of stereo
speakers? any recommendations?

Thanks,

Irwin KD3TB



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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Extenal Stereo Speakers

[Bob McGraw - K4TAX]

If you like the sound of the Polk Audio speakers, then I suggest a 
couple of resistors in series with the headphones to reduce the 
headphone level.


I'm using a pair of speakers from Radio Shack.  Catalog number 40-1313.  
These can be used powered with internal or external power or passive.  
They are basically 2" x 4" oval speakers in a nice enclosure.  I found 
two pair, new in the box, on the auction site for under $40 / pr.


73
Bob, K4TAX

On 10/14/2015 4:17 PM, Irwin Darack wrote:

A speaker volume question.

My set up:  I have a pair of Polk miniature (non powered) stereo speakers
plugged into my K3S.  I plug my headphones into the front connector and
have the Config menu set up so that if the headphones are plugged in, no
sound comes from the stereo speakers.

I find that the volume in the headphones is much higher than the stereo
speakers when the AF audio is the same.  I am wondering if there is a
setting in either the Menu or Config settings to equalize this or adjust
for the difference without having to constantly adjust the AF setting?

Finally, it could just be that I need to find a better set of stereo
speakers? any recommendations?

Thanks,

Irwin KD3TB



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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Vs. 2nd RX

[F5vjc]

Of course that would only work for CW DX.

Is there any other?

73,  Deni - F5VJC



On 14 October 2015 at 22:39, Ken  wrote:

> I wonder if a CW skimmer would work as well or even better, assuming that
> it can pick out the call signs.  Of course that would only work for CW DX.
>
> Ken WA8JXM
>
> On 10/14/15 9:27 AM, w7aqk wrote:
>
>> I just worked V73D, but not sure how I would have done it without using
>> the 2nd RX.  I love my P3, but for DX stuff the 2nd RX always seems to be
>> the difference.  In this case, V73D was moving up slightly after just about
>> every QSO, and not sure the P3 tells you that!  The DX clusters don't
>> really help that much.  By the time you see the split indicated, it has
>> probably changed a good bit.  If I didn't have the 2nd RX, I would be
>> dependent on "outhouse luck" or brute force, neither of which is a strong
>> suit here!  Hi. By the way, my QSO's with the TX3X gang were also quick and
>> relatively easy thanks to the 2nd RX.  Anyway, both tools are great, but I
>> suggest adding the 2nd RX first, if only one can be added at the moment--at
>> least if working DX is your goal.
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] Brown Bros. CTL-B paddles/key with K3

[David Bunte]

Steve -

I don't have a the CTL-B now, but did many years ago.  The connection is
very straight forward.,, but you did not state if you use an external
keyer, or the keyer in the K3.  If using an external keyer wire the paddle
portion of the CTL-B for the connector required by the paddle input of your
keyer.  The output of the keyer will go to the KEY input of the K3, but you
will want to use a 1/4" mono 'Y' cable (two female, to one male), so you
can connect the straight key portion of the CTL-B in parallel with the line
from the keyer.

If you are using the keyer built into the K3 it is still very straight
forward.  Wire the paddle to a 1/4" stereo plug, and plug it into the
PADDLE input of the K3.  Wire the straight key portion of the CTL-B to a
1/4" plug and plug it into the KEY input of the K3.


Best of luck.

Dave - K9FN

On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Steven Bertsch  wrote:

> Anyone using Brown Brothers CTL-B paddles/key with a K3? If so, how did
> you connect it?
>
> Steve, K6SAB
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S - Method to print K3/K3S configuration files fromK3 Utility

[Ralph McClintock]

 Snip is also a part of Windows 7. It a lot more tedious than Print but 
it can be done.

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Re: [Elecraft] New Product Idea - 2 Meter

[Edward R Cole]

Obviously most of you never built something and had to add up the cost!

Getting 50-100w multi-mode, multi-band into a KX3 sized package for 
under $500 - dreamers!
It cost nearly that just for the linear amp.  I suppose you want the 
KX3 with 50w amp for the same cost.
Not going to happen.  Well maybe if its made by wooosengmoo in China 
(hope I didn't do a swear word).


You get what you pay for - if you are lucky!

A 144/222/432/902/1296 dual-conversion SDR with 10w output would be a 
novel idea.  Direct IQ I/F via USB3.  Make the bands modular slide in 
cards with separate ANT connectors on the pcb.  Make any two bands 
full duplex so it usable for satellite work. ALL VFO-PLL 
locked.  Cost $2000-2500 and you will have a parade of folks lining 
up for one.  Maybe shoe-horn it into a box 50% of the volume of a K3s 
with same control area.


Add on amplifiers for more power from many sources so no need to 
reinvent that wheel.


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[Elecraft] LP-PAN 2 and P3

[Jorge Diez - CX6VM]

Hello

 

I am looking for information about LP-PAN 2 and the P3 SVGA

 

Not understand at all about them, are the same?

 

May I use LP-PAN 2 without P3 or there´s any benefit using both LP-PAN 2 and
P3 

 

Or is better to use just the P3 SVGA

 

Thanks,

Jorge

CX6VM/CW5W

 

 



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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Remote Operating from Assisted Living

[Gerry Hull]

Hi David,

It's upload bandwidth that is important.  800 KB/sec (0.8 Mbps) is perfect
for RemoteRig.  I use it at K2LE/1 in Vermont, where we have 1.5/.8 DSL
service.

I've operated a M/2 contest station over a 4G LTE cellular modem...  so
it's not as much as you would think.

Latency is a factor.  Jitter is the bigger killer.  I've had many fine QSOs
in contests wth >200mS of latency, but if jitter gets much over 20 or 30mS,
it chops things up pretty badly.
Of course, the more latency, the slower the audio catches up with you
tuning the VFO.

In the Continental US, I see 50-150mS of latency on average, which is
perfect for RemoteRig and K3 work.

73, Gerry W1VE
Remote Op  at K2LE/1, VY1JA/VY1AAA, K1TTT, K6ND, VE4EA and others.

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On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 7:24 PM, David Christ  wrote:

> So how much bandwidth is needed?  The complex we are looking at has a 40
> Meg fiber connection to their ISP.  Would think that latency would be a
> bigger concern
>
> David K0LUM
>
>
> > On Oct 12, 2015, at 2:53 PM, Dennis  wrote:
> >
> > Ed
> >
> > Having done this for several ops, the biggest issue I've faced is
> inadequate Internet at the Assisted
> > Living, Out Patient Care, or Elder care.  In 3 cases where I've been
> involved in setting one of these
> > up so an op could work a special DXpedition, the Broadband provided for
> the residents did not
> > have enough bandwidth to support the usage of a Remote Rig unit.
>
>
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[Elecraft] PX3 Programmer's Reference v.A2 now available

[Paul Saffren N6HZ]

Version A2 of the Elecraft PX3 Programmer's Reference is now available from
our website.  Changes include 6 new commands added to support USB keyboard
functionality.  The reference can be found  HERE
  

New commands: 

#BCI - get/set the beacon interval in seconds

#BCL - get/set beacon memory location to use (1-50)

#BCN - get/set turn beacon mode on/off

#TXH - get/set text keyboard tx hang time in milliseconds

#TXM - get/set text keyboard tx mode (1-4)

#USB - get only, check if keyboard attached

For more information on these and other PX3 commands, please refer to the
PX3 Programmer's Reference vA2. 


73, 

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Re: [Elecraft] CliftonLabs Z10000

[dw]

You might try:  ord...@cliftonlaboratories.com

Its possible that Jack may have been overloaded with inquiries about
products.
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Re: [Elecraft] New Product Idea - 2 Meter

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

Guys - Thanks for all the new ideas regarding a VHF/UHF radio :-)

Let's let the thread and for now in the interest of keeping list volume under 
control.


73

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[Elecraft] P3 Vs. 2nd RX

[w7aqk]

Hi All,

I just worked V73D, but not sure how I would have done it without using the 
2nd RX.  I love my P3, but for DX stuff the 2nd RX always seems to be the 
difference.  In this case, V73D was moving up slightly after just about 
every QSO, and not sure the P3 tells you that!  The DX clusters don't really 
help that much.  By the time you see the split indicated, it has probably 
changed a good bit.  If I didn't have the 2nd RX, I would be dependent on 
"outhouse luck" or brute force, neither of which is a strong suit here!  Hi. 
By the way, my QSO's with the TX3X gang were also quick and relatively easy 
thanks to the 2nd RX.  Anyway, both tools are great, but I suggest adding 
the 2nd RX first, if only one can be added at the moment--at least if 
working DX is your goal.


Dave W7AQK 


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Re: [Elecraft] LP-PAN 2 and P3

[Matthew Cook]

Jorge,

Don has given you a good summary of the two devices.

When considering the PC path you should be aware that there is more
opportunity to receive and display a much wider bandwidth than either the
P3 or LP-Pan can provide.  At the moment both the P3 and LP-Pan are limited
to 200kHz and 192kHz of bandwidth respectively.  So they can see +/-100kHz
or so either side of the  current VCO frequency at full span.  This is
great for giving you situational awareness of who and what is happening
either side of your VCO frequency.

However if you own a Software Defined Radio and have a transverter
interface in your Elecraft rig, you can take full advantage of the RX Loop
terminals and insert a RF splitter like this (
http://www.minicircuits.com/pdfs/ZSC-2-1.pdf).   With this setup it means
that signals come in off your antenna are routed out the RX Loop out
terminal and in to the splitter; one path then turns back into the radio
through the RF Loop In terminals (albeit with a 3.6dB loss) and the other
path can be taken off to the SDR. You need to purchase the RX Splitter
separately ~US$20-40 off ebay.

This splitter effectively puts both your SDR and K3/K3s receivers in
parallel fed off the same antenna, just keep in mind that signal levels
into both the Rx and SDR will be half an S-point lower due to the spliter
insertion loss.   If signals fade or are weak, you can switch the RX loop
out of circuit and bypass the splitter, handy trick on a K3 since there's a
button for it. My favourite button actually.

So the hidden benefits of an external SDR in liu of the P3 and LP-Pan are;

   - ability to monitor another band and wait for it to open
  - watch for 10m activity while 15m is running
  - keep an eye on 6m while playing on HF
   - Youi can achieve pan-adaptor bandwidths greater than 200kHz
   - Watch an entire band for activity at once BW > 400kHz

The downside however is that the SDR's that can survive strong signals
without turning up their toes will cost you hundreds of dollars, theres
more software work and jigging and poking of software to get them to go.

It is also possible with a tiny bit more software work to have the SDR and
K3 frequencies and mode track, which means you get mouse control over the
K3 where you can click on the SDR waterfall on the PC and have the K3 track
the SDR, you can also have the SDR change bands when you press the Band
Keys on the K3.

I personally find that with a good SDR I've not felt the need for the
second RX option in my K3 yet.   I do however use a RFSpace Cloud-IQ that
can monitor 1.8MHz with a reasonable dynamic range.  Previously I've used
the RFSpace SDR-IQ and Funcube Dongle Pro plus, results with both were
excellent.   I prefer SDR Radio for my pan-adaptor.  We've used this setup
in our multi-multi contest QRO contest station for a number of years, 24"
portrait pan-adaptor displays are now common in our club.

However as Don has already mentioned, you need to decide on a PC (LP-Pan or
SDR) or no PC path (P3).

There is alot of fun to be had with an external SDR too if you want to push
the boundary.  All of the devices discussed work as described, I don't
think you'll be disappointed which ever way you go.  I will however be
selling my LP-Pan2 adaptor in the not too distant future.

I hope that the above helps.  YMMV.

73

Matthew
VK5ZM

On 15 October 2015 at 13:24, Don Wilhelm  wrote:

> Jorge,
>
> The goal of both the P3 and LP-Pan (with PC software) is the same -- to
> give you a panadapter display of the IF output of the K3 (K3S) or any other
> radio.
>
> The P3 does it by direct digital means and displays the resulting spectrum
> and waterfall on the native screen.  With the SVGA option, it can display
> the same information on a larger SVGA monitor - no computer is involved.
>
> LP-Pan is a hardware box that takes the IF output and produces I/Q
> quadrature audio outputs.  Those I/Q outputs must be sent to a soundcard
> and processed by a computer running SDR software (HDSDR, Win4K3suite, NaP3,
> etc.) to produce a spectrum display and waterfall.
>
> If you are trying to decide between the two solutions, consider the
> "computer or no computer" considerations.  LP-Pan requires a computer to
> process the I/Q signals, but the P3 (with or without the SVGA option) is
> independent of an external computer.  The P3 with SVGA option simply
> provides a larger display on an SVGA monitor (no computer involved).
>
> If you are willing to deal with 'computer things' like soundcard setup
> problems and software application setup problems running on the computer,
> then LP-Pan may be an OK solution for you.  However, if you want something
> that can provide a panadapter display without dependency on a computer,
> then the P3 would be the best choice (with or without the SVGA option).
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 10/14/2015 9:01 PM, Jorge Diez - CX6VM wrote:
>
>> Hello
>>
>> I am looking for information about LP-PAN 2 and the P3 SVGA
>>

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Re: [Elecraft] LP-PAN 2 and P3

[Don Wilhelm]

Jorge,

The goal of both the P3 and LP-Pan (with PC software) is the same -- to 
give you a panadapter display of the IF output of the K3 (K3S) or any 
other radio.


The P3 does it by direct digital means and displays the resulting 
spectrum and waterfall on the native screen.  With the SVGA option, it 
can display the same information on a larger SVGA monitor - no computer 
is involved.


LP-Pan is a hardware box that takes the IF output and produces I/Q 
quadrature audio outputs.  Those I/Q outputs must be sent to a soundcard 
and processed by a computer running SDR software (HDSDR, Win4K3suite, 
NaP3, etc.) to produce a spectrum display and waterfall.


If you are trying to decide between the two solutions, consider the 
"computer or no computer" considerations.  LP-Pan requires a computer to 
process the I/Q signals, but the P3 (with or without the SVGA option) is 
independent of an external computer.  The P3 with SVGA option simply 
provides a larger display on an SVGA monitor (no computer involved).


If you are willing to deal with 'computer things' like soundcard setup 
problems and software application setup problems running on the 
computer, then LP-Pan may be an OK solution for you.  However, if you 
want something that can provide a panadapter display without dependency 
on a computer, then the P3 would be the best choice (with or without the 
SVGA option).


73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/14/2015 9:01 PM, Jorge Diez - CX6VM wrote:

Hello

I am looking for information about LP-PAN 2 and the P3 SVGA

Not understand at all about them, are the same?

May I use LP-PAN 2 without P3 or there´s any benefit using both LP-PAN 2 and
P3

Or is better to use just the P3 SVGA




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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Vs. 2nd RX

[Mike K2MK]

Hi Dave,

As you described, having both a Sub RX and a P3 are a great asset for
working split operations. One area where the P3 excels is finding a quiet
spot to transmit. It's not always as obvious with the Sub RX. With a modest
station it may not be beneficial to jump on the exact frequency of the last
QSO. A clear frequency can be a better choice.

73,
Mike K2MK



dyarnes-2 wrote
> Hi All,
> 
> I just worked V73D, but not sure how I would have done it without using
> the 
> 2nd RX.  I love my P3, but for DX stuff the 2nd RX always seems to be the 
> difference.  In this case, V73D was moving up slightly after just about 
> every QSO, and not sure the P3 tells you that!  The DX clusters don't
> really 
> help that much.  By the time you see the split indicated, it has probably 
> changed a good bit.  If I didn't have the 2nd RX, I would be dependent on 
> "outhouse luck" or brute force, neither of which is a strong suit here! 
> Hi. 
> By the way, my QSO's with the TX3X gang were also quick and relatively
> easy 
> thanks to the 2nd RX.  Anyway, both tools are great, but I suggest adding 
> the 2nd RX first, if only one can be added at the moment--at least if 
> working DX is your goal.
> 
> Dave W7AQK 





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Re: [Elecraft] New Product Idea - 2 Meter

[Fred Smith]

Your correct no 222 on it but was a lot better than my old TS2000X I had before 
it.

Fred N0AZZ

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> On Oct 14, 2015, at 5:43 PM, Jim Lowman  wrote:
> 
> Yes, I have a Kenwood TS-2000X, which is good for 100 watts on 6m and 2m, 50 
> watts on 432 MHz and 10 watts on 1296 MHz.  I bought it for that ...purpose.
> 
> The only thing missing is the 222 MHz band, and the only activity on that 
> band in this, the second-largest metropolitan area in the US, is during 
> contests, and most of that is on FM. Apparently that was not the case here, 
> 10 or so years ago.  I don't think your IC-9100 does 222 MHz, either.
> 
> With a K3S, I wouldn't even consider using the TS-2000X on HF.
> 
> 73 de Jim - AD6CW
> 
>> On 10/14/2015 3:03 PM, Fred Smith wrote:
>> The 100w would give you more choice of amps and running without one for a 
>> lot of modes. I have an IC-9100 and it does all of those bands plus HF and 
>> D-Star. But a K line one would be very appealing.
>> 
>> Fred N0AZZ
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Oct 14, 2015, at 4:49 PM, Charlie T, K3ICH  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'd give that another big  "H".
>>> 
>>> A 21 century FT-736  the size of a K3...???
>>> 
>>> 144, 222, 432 & maybe 1296 optional.  Where do I
>>> sign?
>>> 
>>> It would certainly be more convenient than a bunch
>>> of transverters.
>>> 
>>> I don't think it would have to run much power to
>>> be useful since anyone serious is gonna have some
>>> big amps anyway.
>>> 
>>> In the effort of compactness, maybe 5 to 10 watts
>>> tri-band + a couple watts on 1296 as a field
>>> installable option.
>>> 
>>> 73, Charlie k3ICH
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Elecraft
>>> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On
>>> Behalf Of Jessie Oberreuter
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 4:44 PM
>>> To: Fred Smith 
>>> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; n2...@n2lrb.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New Product Idea - 2 Meter
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  H, a K3 version of a Yaesu FT-736?  I
>>> would be seriously down for that!
>>> 
>>> 
 On Wed, 14 Oct 2015, Fred Smith wrote:
 
 Excellent idea except for power output a 100w
>>> for an all mode would be good but in a K3s cabinet
>>> and  many of its features.
 
 Fred N0AZZ
 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
> On Oct 14, 2015, at 1:02 PM, Jose Rivera
>>>  wrote:
> 
> I humbly submit the following product idea to
>>> Elecraft.
> 
> 
> 
> A two meter all mode radio, encased in the
>>> current KX3 body. All the components of this radio
>>> are already
> being made by Elecraft, except for a needed
>>> ATU. Suggested price $500. I'd also recommend
>>> making it at least
> 25-50 watts output. If 70cm can be added, so
>>> much the better.
> 
> 
> 
> Jose B Rivera
> 
> N2LRB
> 
> www.n2lrb.com
> 
> https://twitter.com/N2LRB
> 
> www.facebook.com/N2LRB
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