Re: [Elecraft] K3S RJ-45 Pin Alignment

2016-05-01 Thread Matthew Cook
Unfortunately it's not the plug that gets flogged by the wiggle wiggle
wiggle... it's the socket.

\Replacing the socket of a RJ45 in any piece of equipment that has been
flogged to death is a little more than most Hams can cope with.  The
quality of the sockets that most manufacturers use is also questionable,
some are nothing more than wire pins bent within a plastic frame, cheap and
very nasty.

Having fought a loosing battle with Kenwood microphones in my 4WD, I've now
replaced the lot with something far more robust that has pins and positive
mec mechanical locking, no more plastic clips or bent pieces of wire and my
problems have reduces significantly.

The RJ45 sockets should stay where they were originally intended in IT
racking equipment where they are not disturbed, they are not really
intended for use i mobile/portable/high use equipment.

73

Matthew
VK5ZM



On 2 May 2016 at 14:23, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT 
wrote:

> Microphone connectors fail eventually, even the well-made ones with set
> screws and clamps.
>
> There is one advantage to the RJ-45 -- it's easy to clip off a little wire
> and crimp on a new one.
>
> Replacing a more traditional connector is much harder.
>
> 73 -- Lynn
>
> On 5/1/2016 9:35 PM, Edward R Cole wrote:
>
>> But the most miserable use is as a mic connector which Motorola went to.
>> Now I see many ham radio mfr's copying. Instead of molded multi-contact
>> connector with set screw which holds contact tension its just wiggle wiggle
>> that poor RJ45.
>>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S RJ-45 Pin Alignment

2016-05-01 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
Microphone connectors fail eventually, even the well-made ones with set 
screws and clamps.


There is one advantage to the RJ-45 -- it's easy to clip off a little 
wire and crimp on a new one.


Replacing a more traditional connector is much harder.

73 -- Lynn

On 5/1/2016 9:35 PM, Edward R Cole wrote:
But the most miserable use is as a mic connector which Motorola went 
to.  Now I see many ham radio mfr's copying. Instead of molded 
multi-contact connector with set screw which holds contact tension its 
just wiggle wiggle that poor RJ45.



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Re: [Elecraft] K3S RJ-45 Pin Alignment

2016-05-01 Thread Edward R Cole

I've seen so many uses that were not adhering to the standard 4-pair.

But the most miserable use is as a mic connector which Motorola went 
to.  Now I see many ham radio mfr's copying.  Instead of molded 
multi-contact connector with set screw which holds contact tension 
its just wiggle wiggle that poor RJ45.


But I suppose all the old wise RF designers have retired leaving only 
the digital junkies "who said why not use a cheap RJ-45".  Bean 
counters rejoiced!


Very happily retired not having to deal with such.  I am moving more 
and more toward less use of connectors of any kind (Murphy loves 'em).


73, Ed - KL7UW
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S RJ-45 Pin Alignment

2016-05-01 Thread Byron Servies
There are 2 wiring standards for cat5/5e/6 cable into RJ45 style modular
plugs: EIA/TIA-568A and EIA/TIA-568B (aka T568A and T568B). They are
slightly different, and both work to gigabit speeds. You can mix them, but
in a data center, for example, they will try to stick with 1 or the other.

For my station, I use shielded cat6 with Molex cat6 shielded RJ45 modular
plugs compatible with the Neutrik etherCon series cable ends. It can be a
bit of a pain getting the loading bar for the modular plugs installed
properly, but once put together, they work great.

73, Byron N6NUL

On Sunday, May 1, 2016, Michael Blake  wrote:

> Those specific connections are exactly what "RJ45" describe.
>


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Re: [Elecraft] K3S RJ-45 Pin Alignment

2016-05-01 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 9:19 PM, Michael Blake  wrote:

> Correctly used they are very reliable


That's really the rub isn't it. Awful lot of UNcorrect use out in hamdom.
Not a little by myself, either, before I knew any better.

73, Guy K2AV
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S RJ-45 Pin Alignment

2016-05-01 Thread Michael Blake
Those specific connections are exactly what "RJ45" describe. 

Michael Blake - K9JRI

> On May 1, 2016, at 21:37, Jim Brown  wrote:
> 
>> On Sun,5/1/2016 6:19 PM, Michael Blake wrote:
>> The plug and jack are described by the number of available contact positions 
>> and the number of contacts installed in those positions.
> 
> The proper wiring of Ethernet cables REQUIRES that color code be strictly 
> observed. An Ethernet cable is four twisted pairs, each having a different 
> twist ratio. There's a Brown/White pair, an Orange/White pair, a Green/White 
> pair, and a Blue/White pair.
> 
> Those four pairs each carries a separate signal, and it is critical that 
> crosstalk between pairs is minimized. Crosstalk rejection is provided two 
> ways -- primarily by twisting, AND improved by each pair having a different 
> twist ratio.
> 
> In other words, simply having DC continuity between pins at each end of the 
> cable is not enough -- they must be correctly paired, and those pairs most 
> tightly twisted (for better noise rejection) are wired to their assigned pins.
> 
> 73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] RTTY

2016-05-01 Thread Gene Gabry
Wes,

I am also curious of any issues that might be unresolved? I've been using
the sound card in the K3S with N1MM+ and MMTTY as the engine, and it's been
plug and play since day one. I don't use VOX to key, as either with MMTTY by
itself or with N1MM+, I use the PTT line, and all is good. 
Just curious what I might need to watch for?

73 Gene, N9TF

K3S 10057

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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RTTY

On 5/1/2016 8:15 PM, Wes wrote:
> Allow me to add a dissenting voice.  I found it much easier (with 
> admittedly more clutter) to set proper audio/ALC levels with my K3 and 
> the computer sound card than I do with my K3S and the built in sound 
> card/USB interface.  There are other issues related to Mic/Line 
> Level/VOX/Anti-VOX that I brought to Elecraft's attention 8 months ago 
> and that reportedly were "discovered" by one of their engineers before 
> my report and was going to be bumped up "the list."
>
> If this had been fixed, I wouldn't be bringing it up.

Can you be more specific? I was able to set the audio transmit and receive
levels without problem (at least I think so), and the VOX level too for use
with MMTTY standalone (I use PTT with N1MM+/MMTTY).

What else should I be looking for?

Thank you.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3S RJ-45 Pin Alignment

2016-05-01 Thread Jim Brown

On Sun,5/1/2016 6:19 PM, Michael Blake wrote:

The plug and jack are described by the number of available contact positions 
and the number of contacts installed in those positions.


The proper wiring of Ethernet cables REQUIRES that color code be 
strictly observed. An Ethernet cable is four twisted pairs, each having 
a different twist ratio. There's a Brown/White pair, an Orange/White 
pair, a Green/White pair, and a Blue/White pair.


Those four pairs each carries a separate signal, and it is critical that 
crosstalk between pairs is minimized. Crosstalk rejection is provided 
two ways -- primarily by twisting, AND improved by each pair having a 
different twist ratio.


In other words, simply having DC continuity between pins at each end of 
the cable is not enough -- they must be correctly paired, and those 
pairs most tightly twisted (for better noise rejection) are wired to 
their assigned pins.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] RTTY

2016-05-01 Thread Mike Dodd

On 5/1/2016 8:15 PM, Wes wrote:

Allow me to add a dissenting voice.  I found it much easier (with
admittedly more clutter) to set proper audio/ALC levels with my K3 and
the computer sound card than I do with my K3S and the built in sound
card/USB interface.  There are other issues related to Mic/Line
Level/VOX/Anti-VOX that I brought to Elecraft's attention 8 months ago
and that reportedly were "discovered" by one of their engineers before
my report and was going to be bumped up "the list."

If this had been fixed, I wouldn't be bringing it up.


Can you be more specific? I was able to set the audio transmit and 
receive levels without problem (at least I think so), and the VOX level 
too for use with MMTTY standalone (I use PTT with N1MM+/MMTTY).


What else should I be looking for?

Thank you.

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Louisa County, VA USA
Elecraft K3s/100
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S RJ-45 Pin Alignment

2016-05-01 Thread Michael Blake
Just to be more accurate the term RJ45 defines the wiring of a 4 pair twisted 
cable (like a CAT3, CAT4, CAT5, CAT6) to an 8 position, 8 contact modular plug. 
 The plug and jack are described by the number of available contact positions 
and the number of contacts installed in those positions.

The most common failure point, in my experience, was the crimped connection at 
the male plug.  Broken wire, bad crimp, wrong plug (there are different plugs 
for flat or round cable and then by stranded or solid conductors.  There are 
even universal plugs that are supposed to work for either stranded or solid 
conductors but they are not quite as reliable as the correct stranded or solid 
wire connector.

I wish the radio manufacturers had not used the incorrect term “RJ45” to 
describe the 8 position modular plug and jack.  Correctly used they are very 
reliable and VERY cheap.

Michael Blake - K9JRI



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Re: [Elecraft] K3S RJ-45 Pin Alignment

2016-05-01 Thread Phil Wheeler
Re "There may be a pure, kind, likable, friendly, 
softhearted and honorable RJ45 out there, that 
never caused anyone any trouble, that will suffer 
prejudice on account of this."


Likely so, Guy: I build my own :-)

73, Phil W7OX

On 5/1/16 5:53 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:

It is so easy to bust an RJ45 cable it really isn't funny. There are so
many ways to screw up the connector it isn't funny.

Never trust an RJ45 cable, it only works if you can prove it works.
Otherwise it's something that Murphy has slipped into our usage to get
even. Maybe something inspired by Satan to temp people to falsely blame the
people at Aptos and stir up strife on the reflector.

If the radio ever accidentally gets lifted or pulled by an RJ45 cable...
Heh, heh.

It's possible to have one of the wires in the cable break and have the rest
of the cable hold it together, with two broken ends touching each other,
whenever they feel like it. Very intermittent. When you move the rig to
find the trouble, the movement of the cord can re-touch the wires and the
trouble go away. As soon as you put it back trouble comes back.

You think I'm exaggerating or kidding? I'm not. Been there, done that, been
exasperated, gone round the bush multiple times trying to chase down a
@$*&^@&%$% intermittent trouble.

Treat them like they're cheep cr*p, because they all are. They were
DESIGNED to be cheep and do away with all that manually expensive cording
for phones and phone style connected devices. Larger stranded wires with
crimp screw eyes are much more durable, but cost a lot more. It's all about
money and easy to assemble at the factory, or dump it off on the installer
and don't pay for installation at all.

Never pull on them. Never drop anything on them. Never stretch/straighten
them out by holding the connectors. Never force an RJ45 into its socket if
it doesn't want to go. Find out what's wrong first. Never use them to
connect to something that is vibrating, or gets regular motion.

If anything involving an RJ45 cord doesn't work, rule out the RJ45 first.
Save yourself time and frustration.

There may be a pure, kind, likable, friendly, softhearted and honorable
RJ45 out there, that never caused anyone any trouble, that will suffer
prejudice on account of this. Poor thing will just have to deal with it.
His fambly has a terrible reputation.

73, Guy.

On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 8:19 PM, Kevin Stover 
wrote:


I agree with Don. Try a new cable.

It doesn't take a lot of flex to break one of those small solid copper
wires.
If it's broken in the connector it wasn't crimped well, as the standard
RJ-45 has a strain relief built in that clamps down on the cable to keep it
from pulling out.

I just cringe when I see someone unpack a store bought cable, grab a hold
of the connector and start straightening it out.

On 5/1/2016 6:04 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:


Byron,

You might have a defective cable - get another one and see if the problem
goes away.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/1/2016 6:59 PM, Byron Peebles wrote:


I have indeed done all the clicks and boot removals and been unable to
resolve the disconnect.

It even happens when the radio is in-use and suddenly has the radio
disconnect from the computer.

So, the only answer is the standard "make certain it clicks", which it
does?




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Re: [Elecraft] K3S RJ-45 Pin Alignment

2016-05-01 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
It is so easy to bust an RJ45 cable it really isn't funny. There are so
many ways to screw up the connector it isn't funny.

Never trust an RJ45 cable, it only works if you can prove it works.
Otherwise it's something that Murphy has slipped into our usage to get
even. Maybe something inspired by Satan to temp people to falsely blame the
people at Aptos and stir up strife on the reflector.

If the radio ever accidentally gets lifted or pulled by an RJ45 cable...
Heh, heh.

It's possible to have one of the wires in the cable break and have the rest
of the cable hold it together, with two broken ends touching each other,
whenever they feel like it. Very intermittent. When you move the rig to
find the trouble, the movement of the cord can re-touch the wires and the
trouble go away. As soon as you put it back trouble comes back.

You think I'm exaggerating or kidding? I'm not. Been there, done that, been
exasperated, gone round the bush multiple times trying to chase down a
@$*&^@&%$% intermittent trouble.

Treat them like they're cheep cr*p, because they all are. They were
DESIGNED to be cheep and do away with all that manually expensive cording
for phones and phone style connected devices. Larger stranded wires with
crimp screw eyes are much more durable, but cost a lot more. It's all about
money and easy to assemble at the factory, or dump it off on the installer
and don't pay for installation at all.

Never pull on them. Never drop anything on them. Never stretch/straighten
them out by holding the connectors. Never force an RJ45 into its socket if
it doesn't want to go. Find out what's wrong first. Never use them to
connect to something that is vibrating, or gets regular motion.

If anything involving an RJ45 cord doesn't work, rule out the RJ45 first.
Save yourself time and frustration.

There may be a pure, kind, likable, friendly, softhearted and honorable
RJ45 out there, that never caused anyone any trouble, that will suffer
prejudice on account of this. Poor thing will just have to deal with it.
His fambly has a terrible reputation.

73, Guy.

On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 8:19 PM, Kevin Stover 
wrote:

> I agree with Don. Try a new cable.
>
> It doesn't take a lot of flex to break one of those small solid copper
> wires.
> If it's broken in the connector it wasn't crimped well, as the standard
> RJ-45 has a strain relief built in that clamps down on the cable to keep it
> from pulling out.
>
> I just cringe when I see someone unpack a store bought cable, grab a hold
> of the connector and start straightening it out.
>
> On 5/1/2016 6:04 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>
>> Byron,
>>
>> You might have a defective cable - get another one and see if the problem
>> goes away.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
>> On 5/1/2016 6:59 PM, Byron Peebles wrote:
>>
>>> I have indeed done all the clicks and boot removals and been unable to
>>> resolve the disconnect.
>>>
>>> It even happens when the radio is in-use and suddenly has the radio
>>> disconnect from the computer.
>>>
>>> So, the only answer is the standard "make certain it clicks", which it
>>> does?
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Elecraft] A helpful review...

2016-05-01 Thread Phil Wheeler

:-)

On 5/1/16 4:50 PM, Wes wrote:
But I agree, only unbiased Elecraft Kool Aid 
drinkers should be allowed to post here, and if 
they do, it should be only praise to the 
perfection and superiority of Elecraft radios.



On 5/1/2016 1:32 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:
I had a nastier response which I decided to 
deep six since it was Sunday.


But just one thing, if one went into Macy's and 
started hanging up Belk's
posters, how would that be received? Rude, 
stupid, trespassing, illegal,
what? I wonder if the same post also went to 
the Kenwood and Yaesu

reflectors or it was just us that were "blessed"?

My RELIABLE (caps intended) source of dope on 
new rigs comes from other
PVRC (Potomac Valley Radio Club) membership who 
in contesting tend to use
the rigs harshly. This is often discussed on 
the PVRC reflector, where no
one expects commentary to center on any 
particular brand or age of rig. I
have found the aggregate experience of PVRC 
folk on rigs to be accurate in
the extreme, with never a pulled punch, 
particularly in the range of
reactions to a given rig, where the RANGE of 
reaction is highly
informative.  I also get to go visit and try 
the rigs out if I want. We
also have one soul on that reflector who rarely 
keeps a rig more than three
months, and that running soap opera is pretty 
informative.


Personally, I don't need Icom information here, 
don't want Icom information
here, not trusting of Icom information here 
since some of it is obviously
trolling. I have a really good place to get 
such if I want, that isn't
hanging Belk's posters in Macy's. Here, I'm 
mostly looking for Elecraft

owners that need some help off line.

73, Guy.


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Re: [Elecraft] K3S RJ-45 Pin Alignment

2016-05-01 Thread Kevin Stover

I agree with Don. Try a new cable.

It doesn't take a lot of flex to break one of those small solid copper 
wires.
If it's broken in the connector it wasn't crimped well, as the standard 
RJ-45 has a strain relief built in that clamps down on the cable to keep 
it from pulling out.


I just cringe when I see someone unpack a store bought cable, grab a 
hold of the connector and start straightening it out.


On 5/1/2016 6:04 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Byron,

You might have a defective cable - get another one and see if the 
problem goes away.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/1/2016 6:59 PM, Byron Peebles wrote:
I have indeed done all the clicks and boot removals and been unable 
to resolve the disconnect.


It even happens when the radio is in-use and suddenly has the radio 
disconnect from the computer.


So, the only answer is the standard "make certain it clicks", which 
it does?




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Re: [Elecraft] RTTY

2016-05-01 Thread Wes
Allow me to add a dissenting voice.  I found it much easier (with admittedly 
more clutter) to set proper audio/ALC levels with my K3 and the computer sound 
card than I do with my K3S and the built in sound card/USB interface.  There are 
other issues related to Mic/Line Level/VOX/Anti-VOX that I brought to Elecraft's 
attention 8 months ago and that reportedly were "discovered" by one of their 
engineers before my report and was going to be bumped up "the list."


If this had been fixed, I wouldn't be bringing it up.


On 5/1/2016 4:48 PM, Mike Dodd wrote:

On 5/1/2016 7:33 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Gerald,

Can I assume a K3S or a K3 that has been upgraded with the KIO3B? The
"built-in" soundcard on your K3S is like an external soundcard. You
 will not use the internal soundcard on the computer, but use that
USB "soundcard" instead for the data audio to and from the K3.


Allow me to add that the internal USB sound card is _wonderful._ It is as 
simple to use as Don described, and is easy to set up in MMTTY. Naturally, 
you'll select AFSK-A instead of FSK-D when using the sound card. For me, it 
eliminated a bunch of cables, and a little PC board I bought to interface my 
PC's sound card to my former rig (KX3) -- and all the hassles that entails -- 
is now surplus.




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Re: [Elecraft] A helpful review...

2016-05-01 Thread Wes
Well, I don't know who Belk's is, but livening up our local Macy's wouldn't be a 
bad thing.


But I agree, only unbiased Elecraft Kool Aid drinkers should be allowed to post 
here, and if they do, it should be only praise to the perfection and superiority 
of Elecraft radios.



On 5/1/2016 1:32 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:

I had a nastier response which I decided to deep six since it was Sunday.

But just one thing, if one went into Macy's and started hanging up Belk's
posters, how would that be received? Rude, stupid, trespassing, illegal,
what? I wonder if the same post also went to the Kenwood and Yaesu
reflectors or it was just us that were "blessed"?

My RELIABLE (caps intended) source of dope on new rigs comes from other
PVRC (Potomac Valley Radio Club) membership who in contesting tend to use
the rigs harshly. This is often discussed on the PVRC reflector, where no
one expects commentary to center on any particular brand or age of rig. I
have found the aggregate experience of PVRC folk on rigs to be accurate in
the extreme, with never a pulled punch, particularly in the range of
reactions to a given rig, where the RANGE of reaction is highly
informative.  I also get to go visit and try the rigs out if I want. We
also have one soul on that reflector who rarely keeps a rig more than three
months, and that running soap opera is pretty informative.

Personally, I don't need Icom information here, don't want Icom information
here, not trusting of Icom information here since some of it is obviously
trolling. I have a really good place to get such if I want, that isn't
hanging Belk's posters in Macy's. Here, I'm mostly looking for Elecraft
owners that need some help off line.

73, Guy.




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Re: [Elecraft] RTTY

2016-05-01 Thread Mike Dodd

On 5/1/2016 7:33 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Gerald,

Can I assume a K3S or a K3 that has been upgraded with the KIO3B? The
"built-in" soundcard on your K3S is like an external soundcard.  You
 will not use the internal soundcard on the computer, but use that
USB "soundcard" instead for the data audio to and from the K3.


Allow me to add that the internal USB sound card is _wonderful._ It is 
as simple to use as Don described, and is easy to set up in MMTTY. 
Naturally, you'll select AFSK-A instead of FSK-D when using the sound 
card. For me, it eliminated a bunch of cables, and a little PC board I 
bought to interface my PC's sound card to my former rig (KX3) -- and all 
the hassles that entails -- is now surplus.


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Louisa County, VA USA
Elecraft K3s/100
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S RJ-45 Pin Alignment

2016-05-01 Thread Fred Jensen
"Click" is all we have to determine if it's seated, so I guess "Yes", 
that's all there is.  I'd try another cable.  My experience with RJ-45's 
is in large, tied bundles fanning out to a rack of routers or other 
devices.  Nothing moves, it's all tied down.  In single lots, RJ-45's 
leave a bit to be desired if there's any mechanical strain. They're 
crimped, with a special tool.  Some tools, like maybe what the ATT tech 
carries are good and do a reliable job, others from you-know-where ... 
maybe not so much.


I suppose it is possible that the jack is bad and not engaging the tab, 
and is clicking just to mess with your mind.   At the TV station I 
worked at during college, we had to read and record the meters [~15 or 
20] every 60 min.  They were behind me when I was in the control room. 
Late at night, I became convinced they all went to wrong values and 
snapped to the right ones only when I picked up the clipboard to read 
them. :-))


I'd try a new cable.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2016
- www.cqp.org

On 5/1/2016 3:59 PM, Byron Peebles wrote:


So, the only answer is the standard "make certain it clicks", which it
does?


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Re: [Elecraft] RTTY

2016-05-01 Thread Don Wilhelm

Gerald,

Can I assume a K3S or a K3 that has been upgraded with the KIO3B?
The "built-in" soundcard on your K3S is like an external soundcard.  You 
will not use the internal soundcard on the computer, but use that USB 
"soundcard" instead for the data audio to and from the K3.


If you have a K3 without the new KIO3B, then an external soundcard would 
be in order.
Just make sure that external soundcard is *not* the default soundcard.  
It is common for Windows (or other OS) to set the latest installed 
soundcard as default.


Tell your data mode applications which soundcard to use.

Your computer sounds and background music will come out of your computer 
speakers, and the data mode communications will use the 'external' 
soundcard - there should be no conflict.  It is all in the computer setup.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/1/2016 12:02 PM, Jerry Muller via Elecraft wrote:

Hello all:
  I have a K3/P3 and want to do RTTY, JT,  PSK.   I know that there is a
section, Page 31, in the manual that  address this area.  I do not wish to
use the sound card in my PC as I  listen to back ground music while on the
air. No the QSO can not hear it as I  have checked that out. For those that
are into digi would you suggest  the built in function on the K3 or an
external and why .  What  external if any and why.
  



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Re: [Elecraft] A helpful review...

2016-05-01 Thread Don Wilhelm

Al,

You are correct for the more usual "casual use".  In that arena, 
performance does not matter as much.  The gut feeling about a radio's 
audio or the buttons are the more important to many operators.


But when those operators who are a little more discerning and operate in 
DXing and contesting situations, the Sherwood ratings of close-in 
blocking dynamic range become the deciding factors in QSO or no-QSO.  If 
the transceiver is capable of "saddling up" close to a strong station 
without that other station taking over the receiver, that factor is 
important to those who participate in such operating events.
The ability to avoid receiver overload in crowded band conditions 
suddenly becomes the important parameter.


So if you are a casual operator, those Sherwood rankings will not mean 
much to you. But if contesting performance is more your 'thing', the 
Sherwood rankings will be more important - that is what allows you to 
make contacts in the midst of many potentially interfering stations at 
close frequencies to your frequency.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/1/2016 6:54 PM, Al Lorona wrote:

Ahh, this is right on the mark. How many times have you heard a ham say, "I didn't 
like Radio X because it didn't have enough close-spaced dynamic range." Me, almost 
never. Instead, I usually hear that hams have discarded a radio because of a million 
different reasons like


"bad" or "noisy" audio
fit and feel
buttons too small
kept failing

transmitter caused interference to other radios during a contest


and many other factors, none of which is measured by gurus like Sherwood.

So I totally agree, it's the radio as a whole that matters. It's what comes out 
of the speaker. it's the sound of the noise. Etc., etc. You've got to get a 
radio in your hands to get a good idea of it. That's why YouTube videos of 
receivers being recorded with a camera across the room, and lists of receivers 
ranked by dynamic range don't mean that much to me.


Al  W6LX



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depends upon the totality of its characteristics.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S RJ-45 Pin Alignment

2016-05-01 Thread Matt Zilmer
I use the RJ45 all the time now [P3].  Found that you have to make sure 
it is fully seated, and that the plastic spring-tab thingie has 
completely engaged (decompressed).  I've heard that IT techs force them 
into the RJ45 socket, so it's not a problem isolated to the K3's RJ45.   
Otoh, IT techs often find it necessary to cuss at inanimate objects... 
and use a bigger hammer when necessary.


73,

matt W6NIA

On 5/1/2016 12:08 PM, Byron Peebles wrote:
I continue to be plagued with the radio disconnect azssociated with 
the RJ-45 interface on the K3S.


Has anyone ever heard of an RJ-45 Pin Alignment tool?  I suspect there 
is some physical issue that is not resolved by removing the boot and 
everything else that I've tried.  Forget about it staying connected if 
you move anything on the desk.  It just seems like some fundamental 
issue, possible with the socket, as manufactured.


My search for any kind of pin alignment or calibration tool has been 
unsuccessful.


Anyone really resolved this?  By resolved, I mean you can move things 
without disconnecting.


73, Byron
K3S #100-72

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[Elecraft] FS: K3, P3, KAT-500 pricing correction`

2016-05-01 Thread Quentin Schultze
Well, I fouled up again.

The P3 and the KAT-500 are $1100 together.

Package for all of the equipment, including K3, P3, and KAT-500 should be
$3400.

Really bad day.

Quin, K8QS
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S RJ-45 Pin Alignment

2016-05-01 Thread David Christ
Another thing it could be is a bad connector to cable connection.  It can be 
intermittent.  Another thing to look at is have any of the wires in the jack 
been bent.  They are pretty flimsy.

David K0LUM

> On May 1, 2016, at 5:59 PM, Byron Peebles  wrote:
> 
> I have indeed done all the clicks and boot removals and been unable to 
> resolve the disconnect.
> 
> It even happens when the radio is in-use and suddenly has the radio 
> disconnect from the computer.
> 
> So, the only answer is the standard "make certain it clicks", which it does?
> 
> 73, Byron
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S RJ-45 Pin Alignment

2016-05-01 Thread Don Wilhelm

Byron,

You might have a defective cable - get another one and see if the 
problem goes away.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/1/2016 6:59 PM, Byron Peebles wrote:
I have indeed done all the clicks and boot removals and been unable to 
resolve the disconnect.


It even happens when the radio is in-use and suddenly has the radio 
disconnect from the computer.


So, the only answer is the standard "make certain it clicks", which it 
does?




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Re: [Elecraft] A helpful review...

2016-05-01 Thread Al Lorona
Ahh, this is right on the mark. How many times have you heard a ham say, "I 
didn't like Radio X because it didn't have enough close-spaced dynamic range." 
Me, almost never. Instead, I usually hear that hams have discarded a radio 
because of a million different reasons like


"bad" or "noisy" audio
fit and feel
buttons too small
kept failing

transmitter caused interference to other radios during a contest


and many other factors, none of which is measured by gurus like Sherwood.

So I totally agree, it's the radio as a whole that matters. It's what comes out 
of the speaker. it's the sound of the noise. Etc., etc. You've got to get a 
radio in your hands to get a good idea of it. That's why YouTube videos of 
receivers being recorded with a camera across the room, and lists of receivers 
ranked by dynamic range don't mean that much to me.


Al  W6LX


>The performance and usefulness of ANY product, including a radio, 

>depends upon the totality of its characteristics. 

>
>73, Jim K9YC
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[Elecraft] K3S RJ-45 Pin Alignment

2016-05-01 Thread Byron Peebles
I have indeed done all the clicks and boot removals and been unable to 
resolve the disconnect.


It even happens when the radio is in-use and suddenly has the radio 
disconnect from the computer.


So, the only answer is the standard "make certain it clicks", which it does?

73, Byron
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Re: [Elecraft] Power-On message

2016-05-01 Thread Nr4c
Utility/configuration 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On May 1, 2016, at 11:53 AM, Ron Reis  wrote:
> 
> Can't seem to find out how to change the power-on message in the manual.
> Hints?
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Re: [Elecraft] A helpful review...

2016-05-01 Thread Jim Brown
Rob's tests, which are generally excellent, include MANY different 
parameters, but he publishes ONLY the performance of the receivers, and 
he has arbitrarily chosen list them in order of only one of those 
parameters. For all practical purposes, he does not test transmitters 
(which is a good thing -- the one type of test I've seen is done 
improperly).


The performance and usefulness of ANY product, including a radio, 
depends upon the totality of its characteristics. As the late Richard 
Heyser said so well, "trying to describe an audio system using only 
frequency response is like trying to write poetry with only one word in 
your vocabulary."


73, Jim K9YC

On Sun,5/1/2016 10:43 AM, Brian Hemmis wrote:

Correct but the little box scores well in Rob Sherwood’s tests (considering its 
price) and the eHam opinions (reviews) are great.


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[Elecraft] For Sale (Corrected) K3, P3, KAT-500

2016-05-01 Thread Quentin Schultze
This is a corrected ad. The one I sent a few hours ago included info for
the wrong K3. Thanks to Rich, N5ZC, from whom I bought this particular rig,
for catching it for me before I made a more complete fool of myself.

I have the following excellent-condition K3-100F for sale.

* Serial # 8233 with the following features:
* Main Receiver has the following 8 Pole Filters: 6, 2.8,1.8,.400,.250
* KRX3-F Sub Receiver with the following 8 pole Filters: 2.8, .400
* KDVR3-F Digital Voice Recorder
* KXV3B-F RX Ant., 2nd Pre-Amp, IF Out and Xverter Interface
* KSYN3AUPG - 2 each upgraded at the factory

All of the above $2500 shipped.
* P3 with 2K transmit monitor — excellent condition: $1000 shipped

* KAT-500 works perfectly but cabinet scratches/mars on top — not in same
excellent condition as above: $1100 or BO
COMPLETE PACKAGE: $3900 with all cables and manuals.

Send me an email and we can talk on the phone if you are interested.
PayPal an option if you pay the fee. So is free Dayton delivery. Thanks.

Quin, K8QS
Grand Rapids, MI
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Re: [Elecraft] A helpful review...

2016-05-01 Thread Kevin Stover

Exactly.

How do you suppose the readers of other manufacturers mail list/forums 
would react if they had to deal with Elecraft advertisements all the 
times? Not well I assure you.


I always thought this mail list was for owners of Elecraft gear or 
potential owners of Elecraft gear to congregate and talk about their 
Elecraft gear, their experiences using it and if needs be some advice in 
repairing/configuring same. The advertisements are happening way to 
often now.


Instead of telling me to delete the posts how about telling the 
IcoYaeKen fan boys to post their troll advertisements on their own 
list/forum?


On 5/1/2016 3:32 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:

I had a nastier response which I decided to deep six since it was Sunday.

But just one thing, if one went into Macy's and started hanging up Belk's
posters, how would that be received? Rude, stupid, trespassing, illegal,
what? I wonder if the same post also went to the Kenwood and Yaesu
reflectors or it was just us that were "blessed"?

My RELIABLE (caps intended) source of dope on new rigs comes from other
PVRC (Potomac Valley Radio Club) membership who in contesting tend to use
the rigs harshly. This is often discussed on the PVRC reflector, where no
one expects commentary to center on any particular brand or age of rig. I
have found the aggregate experience of PVRC folk on rigs to be accurate in
the extreme, with never a pulled punch, particularly in the range of
reactions to a given rig, where the RANGE of reaction is highly
informative.  I also get to go visit and try the rigs out if I want. We
also have one soul on that reflector who rarely keeps a rig more than three
months, and that running soap opera is pretty informative.

Personally, I don't need Icom information here, don't want Icom information
here, not trusting of Icom information here since some of it is obviously
trolling. I have a really good place to get such if I want, that isn't
hanging Belk's posters in Macy's. Here, I'm mostly looking for Elecraft
owners that need some help off line.

73, Guy.

On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 3:16 PM, Gene Gabry  wrote:


"Sort of". You're being to kind today Jim. ;)  ;)

73 Gene, N9TF

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim
Brown
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2016 11:42 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] A helpful review...

It has been observed that the author has a reputation as sort of a
spokesman/apologist for ICOM.

73, Jim K9YC

On Sun,5/1/2016 9:16 AM, Tom Fitzgerald via Elecraft wrote:

This link may be of interest to many who have recently been debating a



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Re: [Elecraft] A helpful review...

2016-05-01 Thread EricJ
Using a rig harshly in a particular activity isn't necessarily a good 
indication of its capabilities in activities where that isn't how it is 
used. Not everyone is a serious contester or DX'er, though they are well 
represented on this reflector. What's good on the racetrack may not be 
the best suited to the road.


I can't see an IC-7300 in my future, but it seems to be of interest to a 
lot of hams who ordinarily wouldn't be interested in an entry level rig. 
But then I can't yet see a K3s in my future either for the kind of 
operating I do. My K2's have no shortcomings that interfere with my 
ability to enjoy a radio the way I want to enjoy it. My K1 answers MOST 
of those needs. hi.


Eric KE6US




On 5/1/2016 1:32 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:

My RELIABLE (caps intended) source of dope on new rigs comes from other
PVRC (Potomac Valley Radio Club) membership who in contesting tend to use
the rigs harshly.

73, Guy.



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Re: [Elecraft] K2 panadapter choices

2016-05-01 Thread Floyd Sense
I have a K2 with panadaptor and I use an LP-Pan2 and NaP3 as NaP3 
supports VFO-B, while many other options don't.  Note that NaP3 also 
supports the Funcube Pro+.  Since the Clifton Labs Z1 is not longer 
available, take a look at the buffer/amps sold by G4HUP at his website.  
The board is about the same size as the Z1 board and I use it in my 
FT-1000MP Mk V and it works perfectly. Note that there are different 
models of the G4HUP board, depending on the IF frequency.  I suggest 
getting the documentation from the Clifton Labs site on how to install 
the Z1 board in the K2 and installing the G4HUP board in the same 
fashion.


Resist the temptation to use one of the RTL-SDR dongles as they have 
lower dynamic range than the Funcube Pro+ and they have no built-in 
sound card so are not supported by NaP3.  You'd have to use something 
like HDSDR with one of those dongles and you'd lose the VFO-B support.  
The Funcube Pro+ with NaP3 gives performance almost the same as an 
LP-Pan2, and you won't have to purchase a suitable sound card to go 
along with it as you would with the LP-Pan2.



73, Floyd - K8AC

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Re: [Elecraft] Will the USB SERIAL CABLE V 1.1 supplied by Elecraft work with Windows 10?

2016-05-01 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
If it doesn't work, disconnect the adapter from the PC. Reboot the PC.
Reattach the adapter. If it still doesn't work, disconnect the adapter
again and go to the device manager:

On the PC desktop, click on the window symbol lower left corner, then click
settings. In the "find a setting" entry field, upper right in settings
window, type "device manager" without the quotes. (Clicking on the
"Devices" choice takes you to a different place.)  In search results
window, click "Device Manager".

In Device manager, click on "Ports", double click on your USB to serial
listing among all the ports.

Click on the "driver" tab.

The current prolific driver, supplied by Windows over the internet and
blessed by Windows 10, according to the driver panel, is 3.6.81.357, dated
9/4/2015. This driver works well here, and is always running my AIM4170
analyzer when it is in the shack.

If you have a "strange" or older version, then click on the update driver
button, and click on the "search automatically" choice.

If it tells you that you are current, then in device manager click on the
uninstall button to remove it. when that is done, plug in the adapter cord,
and when it asks where to get the driver, chose the internet. It will do a
new install of the current "blessed" driver.

There are other gotchas, like if the actual cord that you have has a fake
chip in it, and other irritating circumstances.

Hope that helps.

73, Guy K2AV



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> This is a 2007 CD. It works with Win 7.
> 73,
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Re: [Elecraft] A helpful review...

2016-05-01 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
I had a nastier response which I decided to deep six since it was Sunday.

But just one thing, if one went into Macy's and started hanging up Belk's
posters, how would that be received? Rude, stupid, trespassing, illegal,
what? I wonder if the same post also went to the Kenwood and Yaesu
reflectors or it was just us that were "blessed"?

My RELIABLE (caps intended) source of dope on new rigs comes from other
PVRC (Potomac Valley Radio Club) membership who in contesting tend to use
the rigs harshly. This is often discussed on the PVRC reflector, where no
one expects commentary to center on any particular brand or age of rig. I
have found the aggregate experience of PVRC folk on rigs to be accurate in
the extreme, with never a pulled punch, particularly in the range of
reactions to a given rig, where the RANGE of reaction is highly
informative.  I also get to go visit and try the rigs out if I want. We
also have one soul on that reflector who rarely keeps a rig more than three
months, and that running soap opera is pretty informative.

Personally, I don't need Icom information here, don't want Icom information
here, not trusting of Icom information here since some of it is obviously
trolling. I have a really good place to get such if I want, that isn't
hanging Belk's posters in Macy's. Here, I'm mostly looking for Elecraft
owners that need some help off line.

73, Guy.

On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 3:16 PM, Gene Gabry  wrote:

> "Sort of". You're being to kind today Jim. ;)  ;)
>
> 73 Gene, N9TF
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim
> Brown
> Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2016 11:42 AM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] A helpful review...
>
> It has been observed that the author has a reputation as sort of a
> spokesman/apologist for ICOM.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
> On Sun,5/1/2016 9:16 AM, Tom Fitzgerald via Elecraft wrote:
> > This link may be of interest to many who have recently been debating a
> new
> SDR...it was recently made available to another group I belong to. I'm
> keeping my K3 but looking forward to purchasing one of these puppies too.
> I'm sold and the price point is perfect.
> >
> > http://www.ab4oj.com/icom/ic7300/7300notes.pdf
>
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Re: [Elecraft] A helpful review...

2016-05-01 Thread Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft
Phil, I could not have said it any better! 

73 Milverton /W9MMS. 


  From: Phil Wheeler 
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Sunday, May 1, 2016 3:12 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] A helpful review...
   
Jim,

It's good Icom has at least one of those. Elecraft 
has so many of us :-)

73, Phil W7OX

On 5/1/16 9:41 AM, Jim Brown wrote:
> It has been observed that the author has a 
> reputation as sort of a spokesman/apologist for 
> ICOM.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
> On Sun,5/1/2016 9:16 AM, Tom Fitzgerald via 
> Elecraft wrote:
>> This link may be of interest to many who have 
>> recently been debating a new SDR...it was 
>> recently made available to another group I 
>> belong to. I'm keeping my K3 but looking 
>> forward to purchasing one of these puppies too. 
>> I'm sold and the price point is perfect.
>>
>> http://www.ab4oj.com/icom/ic7300/7300notes.pdf

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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Build - What have I forgotten

2016-05-01 Thread Andrew Hebden
Hi all,
Many thanks for your prompt replies. Family visits got in the way so I
wasn't able to gives things a try out until just now.
You were all quite correct, it was a simple newbie error. I am using the
Elecraft MH2 mic and had not thought about having to set it up. As expected
I just turned the mic bias on and all is well.
I can now get down to playing radio.
73 Andrew
G8BYB

> On Apr 30, 2016, at 6:09 PM, Andrew Hebden  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I have completed my build following the manual and everything seems to 
> work fine until I started to try and set it up for SSB. I can get full 
> output using the two tone test but nothing through the microphone. I 
> also tried a another microphone plugged in to the rear mic socket. Still
nothing.
> Any suggestions?
> 
> Andrew
> G8BYB
> 



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Re: [Elecraft] CW weight question

2016-05-01 Thread Cady, Fred
Hi Mike,
Here is what I know about the K3 WGHT:

CW Weight
The term "CW weight" can refer to the ratio of the dit-to-intersymbol-space 
time or the dah-to-dit ratio.  Altering these ratios changes the sound of the 
keying.  A "normal" weight is 1:1, where the time for the dit is the same as 
the intersymbol time and which gives a “normal” dah-to-dit ratio of 3:1.  See 
Figure 4 1(a).  When the dah-dit ratio is less than 3:1, the dits are 
emphasized and the keying is said to have a heavier weight, as in Figure 4 
1(b).  The CW WGHT control for the K3S adjusts these ratios.  For example, if 
CW WGHT is 1.2, the dit time is increased by 20% and the intersymbol-space time 
is reduced by 20%.  The dah time is increased by the same amount of time (i.e.  
20% of the dit-time, in effect, increasing the dah-time by only 20/3 = 6.67%).  
See Table 4 2 and Figure 4 2.  
Figure 4 2 shows measurements of the CW WGHT for the K3S.  To send CW with a 
“normal” weight, choose CW WGHT to be 1.05.

(Figure and table references are for the K3S book.)
Cheers,
Fred KE7X

For all KE7X Elecraft book, see www.ke7x.com


From: Elecraft  on behalf of Mike Herr 

Sent: Sunday, May 1, 2016 1:19 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] CW weight question

CW weight refers to the balance between the single element length  (dit)
and the space. But, what is the elecraft definition of a "weight" of 1.00
verses 1.25? As weight is changed does the dit or the space change? Does
the ratio between dit and dah remain a constant 3:1?
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Re: [Elecraft] A helpful review...

2016-05-01 Thread Phil Wheeler

Jim,

It's good Icom has at least one of those. Elecraft 
has so many of us :-)


73, Phil W7OX

On 5/1/16 9:41 AM, Jim Brown wrote:
It has been observed that the author has a 
reputation as sort of a spokesman/apologist for 
ICOM.


73, Jim K9YC

On Sun,5/1/2016 9:16 AM, Tom Fitzgerald via 
Elecraft wrote:
This link may be of interest to many who have 
recently been debating a new SDR...it was 
recently made available to another group I 
belong to. I'm keeping my K3 but looking 
forward to purchasing one of these puppies too. 
I'm sold and the price point is perfect.


http://www.ab4oj.com/icom/ic7300/7300notes.pdf


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Re: [Elecraft] K3S RJ-45 Pin Alignment

2016-05-01 Thread David Christ
Some times the tab has been pressed down and does not spring up enough to lock 
properly.  I prefer non hooded ends and lift up on the tab before inserting to 
bake sure it will click and lock properly.

David K0LUM
> On May 1, 2016, at 2:19 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV  wrote:
> 
> Hi Byron,
> 
> If an RJ45 cable does not make a "snap" sound upon insertion to the socket,
> it is not seated properly. Also, what happens very commonly, is that the
> little tab on the plug that locks the plug into the socket has been broken
> off. Again, VERY common for the tab to be broken off. An RJ45 cord with a
> missing tab on either end needs to thrown out.
> 
> 73, Guy.
> 
> On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 3:08 PM, Byron Peebles  wrote:
> 
>> I continue to be plagued with the radio disconnect azssociated with the
>> RJ-45 interface on the K3S.
>> 
>> Has anyone ever heard of an RJ-45 Pin Alignment tool?  I suspect there is
>> some physical issue that is not resolved by removing the boot and
>> everything else that I've tried.  Forget about it staying connected if you
>> move anything on the desk.  It just seems like some fundamental issue,
>> possible with the socket, as manufactured.
>> 
>> My search for any kind of pin alignment or calibration tool has been
>> unsuccessful.
>> 
>> Anyone really resolved this?  By resolved, I mean you can move things
>> without disconnecting.
>> 
>> 73, Byron
>> K3S #100-72
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Will the USB SERIAL CABLE V 1.1 supplied by Elecraft work with Windows 10?

2016-05-01 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
If it doesn't work, disconnect the adapter from the PC. Reboot the PC.
Reattach the adapter. If it still doesn't work, disconnect the adapter
again and go to the device manager:

On the PC desktop, click on the window symbol lower left corner, then click
settings. In the "find a setting" entry field, upper right in settings
window, type "device manager" without the quotes. (Clicking on the
"Devices" choice takes you to a different place.)  In search results
window, click "Device Manager".

In Device manager, click on "Ports", double click on your USB to serial
listing among all the ports.

Click on the "driver" tab.

The current prolific driver, supplied by Windows over the internet and
blessed by Windows 10, is 3.6.81.357, dated 9/4/2015. This driver works
well, and is always running my AIM4170 analyzer when it is in the shack.

If you have a "strange" or older version, then click on the update driver
button, and click on the "search automatically" choice.

If it tells you are current, then in device manager click on the uninstall
button to remove it. when that is done, plug in the adapter cord, and when
it asks where to get the driver, chose the internet. It will do a new
install of the current "blessed" driver.

There are other gotchas, like if the actual cord that you have has a fake
or damaged chip in it, or the USB connection is suffering from busted
connection, or too many connections on a hub, or a bad hub, etc, etc.

When I converted from my Win 7 Pro to Win 10, nothing broke, and a lot of
stuff ran better, faster. Flipped my wife's PC from Win 7 Pro to Win 10 and
a small stack of mysterious troubles that I was never able to isolate just
went away. Fixed a couple of LAN definition things and all was quite fine.
All in all, it was by far the best Microsoft OS conversion I've ever had.

Hope that helps.

73, Guy K2AV



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[Elecraft] For Sale: K3/100F, P3, and KAT500

2016-05-01 Thread Quentin Schultze
*The K3/100F is a factory unit serial 1284 in excellent physical and
electrical condition. Non-smoking.*

*It's been back to the factory a few times for all of the upgrades
including the gold pins and the 12v upgrade which supports the P3.*

*Included features/options:*

**KAT3-F*

**KRX3 2nd receiver.*

**Both receivers include the following:2.8, 1.8 and 400 8 pole filters.*

**KXV3B RX Ant, 2nd Preamp, IF output, XVTR Interface.*

**KSYN3A (revision b boards) upgrade on both receivers*

*All of the above: $2500 shipped with the manual.*


**P3 with *
*​2K ​*
*transmit monitor — excellent condition: $1000 shipped*

**KAT-500 works perfectly but cabinet scratches/mars on top — not in same
excellent condition as above: $1100*


*COMPLETE PACKAGE: $3900 with all cables and manuals*

*Send me a note via my QRZ email *
*​(I assume it is the one that will appear with this posting, too) ​*
*and we can talk on the phone if you are interested. ​PayPal an option.
​Thanks.*

*Quin, K8QS*

*Grand Rapids, MI*
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[Elecraft] CW weight question

2016-05-01 Thread Mike Herr
CW weight refers to the balance between the single element length  (dit)
and the space. But, what is the elecraft definition of a "weight" of 1.00
verses 1.25? As weight is changed does the dit or the space change? Does
the ratio between dit and dah remain a constant 3:1?
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S RJ-45 Pin Alignment

2016-05-01 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Hi Byron,

If an RJ45 cable does not make a "snap" sound upon insertion to the socket,
it is not seated properly. Also, what happens very commonly, is that the
little tab on the plug that locks the plug into the socket has been broken
off. Again, VERY common for the tab to be broken off. An RJ45 cord with a
missing tab on either end needs to thrown out.

73, Guy.

On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 3:08 PM, Byron Peebles  wrote:

> I continue to be plagued with the radio disconnect azssociated with the
> RJ-45 interface on the K3S.
>
> Has anyone ever heard of an RJ-45 Pin Alignment tool?  I suspect there is
> some physical issue that is not resolved by removing the boot and
> everything else that I've tried.  Forget about it staying connected if you
> move anything on the desk.  It just seems like some fundamental issue,
> possible with the socket, as manufactured.
>
> My search for any kind of pin alignment or calibration tool has been
> unsuccessful.
>
> Anyone really resolved this?  By resolved, I mean you can move things
> without disconnecting.
>
> 73, Byron
> K3S #100-72
>
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Re: [Elecraft] A helpful review...

2016-05-01 Thread Gene Gabry
"Sort of". You're being to kind today Jim. ;)  ;) 

73 Gene, N9TF

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim
Brown
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2016 11:42 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] A helpful review...

It has been observed that the author has a reputation as sort of a
spokesman/apologist for ICOM.

73, Jim K9YC

On Sun,5/1/2016 9:16 AM, Tom Fitzgerald via Elecraft wrote:
> This link may be of interest to many who have recently been debating a new
SDR...it was recently made available to another group I belong to. I'm
keeping my K3 but looking forward to purchasing one of these puppies too.
I'm sold and the price point is perfect.
>
> http://www.ab4oj.com/icom/ic7300/7300notes.pdf

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[Elecraft] K3 1 milliwatt calibration failed

2016-05-01 Thread C L Jonkers
After installing new syns and making other mods calibration was going well 
until the 1 mw test.  Then:

IsSamplingComplete: Unexpected response 'DB 0.72 MW;' to 'DB;'. State 220

Any help appreciated.
73,
Neil  NJ6L
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S RJ-45 Pin Alignment

2016-05-01 Thread Don Wilhelm

Byron,

There is a latch on the RJ-45 plug - if the plug is inserted 
sufficiently, you will hear a slight click when it is fully inserted.  
Once latched, it will not fall out.


You may have to move the boot back a bit and push on the plug assembly 
itself to get it to latch.  Once latched, move the boot back into place.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/1/2016 3:08 PM, Byron Peebles wrote:
I continue to be plagued with the radio disconnect azssociated with 
the RJ-45 interface on the K3S.


Has anyone ever heard of an RJ-45 Pin Alignment tool?  I suspect there 
is some physical issue that is not resolved by removing the boot and 
everything else that I've tried.  Forget about it staying connected if 
you move anything on the desk.  It just seems like some fundamental 
issue, possible with the socket, as manufactured.




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[Elecraft] Will the USB SERIAL CABLE V 1.1 supplied by Elecraft work with Windows 10?

2016-05-01 Thread Jack Colson
This is a 2007 CD. It works with Win 7.
73,
Jack, W3TMZ
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[Elecraft] K3S RJ-45 Pin Alignment

2016-05-01 Thread Byron Peebles
I continue to be plagued with the radio disconnect azssociated with the 
RJ-45 interface on the K3S.


Has anyone ever heard of an RJ-45 Pin Alignment tool?  I suspect there 
is some physical issue that is not resolved by removing the boot and 
everything else that I've tried.  Forget about it staying connected if 
you move anything on the desk.  It just seems like some fundamental 
issue, possible with the socket, as manufactured.


My search for any kind of pin alignment or calibration tool has been 
unsuccessful.


Anyone really resolved this?  By resolved, I mean you can move things 
without disconnecting.


73, Byron
K3S #100-72

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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement

2016-05-01 Thread kev...@coho.net

Good Morning,
Propagation has been dismal to poor lately; with broken skeds the 
norm.  The solar flux index has been rising slowly.  However, contacts 
can be made even during sunspot minimums, we simply need to adapt our 
techniques to the changes.


Please join us on:
14050 kHz at 2200z Sunday (3 PM PDT Sunday)
 7045 kHz at 0100z Monday (6 PM PDT Sunday)

73,
   Kevin. KD5ONS

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Re: [Elecraft] A helpful review...

2016-05-01 Thread Brian Hemmis
Correct but the little box scores well in Rob Sherwood’s tests (considering its 
price) and the eHam opinions (reviews) are great. It’s no K3 but looks like a 
lot of fun to play with. Glad to see one of the big 3 come out with something 
new at a great price.
73, Brian K3USC


> On May 1, 2016, at 12:41 PM, Jim Brown  wrote:
> 
> It has been observed that the author has a reputation as sort of a 
> spokesman/apologist for ICOM.
> 
> 73, Jim K9YC
> 
> On Sun,5/1/2016 9:16 AM, Tom Fitzgerald via Elecraft wrote:
>> This link may be of interest to many who have recently been debating a new 
>> SDR...it was recently made available to another group I belong to. I'm 
>> keeping my K3 but looking forward to purchasing one of these puppies too. 
>> I'm sold and the price point is perfect.
>> 
>> http://www.ab4oj.com/icom/ic7300/7300notes.pdf
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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM, KX3, and KXPA100

2016-05-01 Thread Ryan Noguchi via Elecraft
I use N1MM Logger+ with my KX3 and KXPA100. Never had the issue you describe 
with my equipment. 
My first suggestion would be to make sure you're using the latest firmware, 
especially on the KXPA100. The firmware on my club's KX3 and KXPA100 were 
horrendously out of date, resulting in all kinds of trouble with the tuner and 
PA until I updated the firmware, including a similar issue to what you 
described independent of N1MM Logger+. 

73, Ryan AI6DO

  From: Michael Dinkelman via Elecraft 
 To: "Elecraft@mailman.qth.net"  
 Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2016 9:27 PM
 Subject: [Elecraft] N1MM, KX3, and KXPA100
   
I've borrowed a KX3 and KXPA100 for the 7QP, going mobile.
I plan to use N1MM for logging, keying, and frequency control.

I can get N1MM to talk to the KX3.
I can get N1MM to talk to the KX3 through the KXPA100 daisy chained
serial connection.

However, whenever I talk through to the KX3 through the KXPA100,
the PA gets turned off. If I turn it back on, it gets turned back off.

I can't find any clues in the manuals and I can't find any clues on a search
of the net.

Someone must be using N1MM to talk to the KX3/KXPA100 combo.
Can someone give me any ideas of what I am doing wrong?

cheers
dink, n7wa



  
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Re: [Elecraft] Mobile KX3 with KXPA100 - macro question

2016-05-01 Thread Ryan Noguchi via Elecraft
The command you want is PCnnn; where nnn is a number from 000 to 110 
representing requested power in Watts. You could use the resetting macro trick 
to create a toggle. https://polyphase.ca/posts/2015/01/05/k3-kx3-macros/ 
provides an example. 
73, Ryan AI6DO

  From: Michael Dinkelman via Elecraft 
 To: Elecraft Reflector  
 Sent: Sunday, May 1, 2016 9:12 AM
 Subject: [Elecraft] Mobile KX3 with KXPA100 - macro question
   
I'll admit, I'm just lazy with this question (and time is running short).I 
could probably crack the manuals on this one to find the answer.

When I tune my mobile antennas, I would rather have the KXPA100power turned 
low, then adjust back up to 100watts when I'm happy with thetuning. Doing that 
with the KX3 power knob is a pain and time consuming.
Is there a macro (or two macros) that could toggle the KX3/KXPA100 power 
between two levels with just a button push or two?
cheersdink, n7wa
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Re: [Elecraft] A helpful review...

2016-05-01 Thread Jim Brown
It has been observed that the author has a reputation as sort of a 
spokesman/apologist for ICOM.


73, Jim K9YC

On Sun,5/1/2016 9:16 AM, Tom Fitzgerald via Elecraft wrote:

This link may be of interest to many who have recently been debating a new 
SDR...it was recently made available to another group I belong to. I'm keeping 
my K3 but looking forward to purchasing one of these puppies too. I'm sold and 
the price point is perfect.

http://www.ab4oj.com/icom/ic7300/7300notes.pdf


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Re: [Elecraft] Power-On message

2016-05-01 Thread Ryan Noguchi via Elecraft
You need to use the KX3 Utility. The button to change the Power On Banner is 
under the Configuration tab. 
73, Ryan AI6DO

  From: Ron Reis 
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 Sent: Sunday, May 1, 2016 8:53 AM
 Subject: [Elecraft] Power-On message
   
Can't seem to find out how to change the power-on message in the manual.
Hints?
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 panadapter choices

2016-05-01 Thread Wes
I can't vouch for its performance yet because it's still in transit, but I've 
ordered one of these:


http://www.ebay.com/itm/111973884221

I have a couple of SDR-IQs, one of which I use as a panadapter on my K3S, the 
other will get the preamp for use as a general purpose monitor receiver/spectrum 
analyzer.


Wes  N7WS


On 5/1/2016 6:23 AM, Jim Allen wrote:

I've been in a very helpful discussion with Don Wilhelm about using my Funcube 
Dongle Pro Plus in a second receiver/panadapter role with the K2.  Don suggests 
the Clifton Labs Z1B buffer amplifier, but those aren't available anymore.

Does anyone have one of those devices sitting around unused, or know where to 
find one, or are there any suggestions for alternatives?

TIA

73 de W6OGC Jim Allen




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[Elecraft] A helpful review...

2016-05-01 Thread Tom Fitzgerald via Elecraft
This link may be of interest to many who have recently been debating a new 
SDR...it was recently made available to another group I belong to. I'm keeping 
my K3 but looking forward to purchasing one of these puppies too. I'm sold and 
the price point is perfect. 

http://www.ab4oj.com/icom/ic7300/7300notes.pdf


"We are just an advanced breed of monkeys on a minor planet of a very 
average star. But we can understand the Universe. That makes us something very 
special." -Stephen Hawking.

"Do not lose time on daily trivialities. Do not dwell on petty detail. For all 
of these things melt away and drift apart within the obscure traffic of time. 
Live well and live broadly. You are alive and living now. Now is the envy of 
all of the dead." -Emily clone circa 2242  
 
  
   
 
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[Elecraft] Mobile KX3 with KXPA100 - macro question

2016-05-01 Thread Michael Dinkelman via Elecraft
I'll admit, I'm just lazy with this question (and time is running short).I 
could probably crack the manuals on this one to find the answer.

When I tune my mobile antennas, I would rather have the KXPA100power turned 
low, then adjust back up to 100watts when I'm happy with thetuning. Doing that 
with the KX3 power knob is a pain and time consuming.
Is there a macro (or two macros) that could toggle the KX3/KXPA100 power 
between two levels with just a button push or two?
cheersdink, n7wa
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[Elecraft] RTTY

2016-05-01 Thread Jerry Muller via Elecraft
Hello all:
 I have a K3/P3 and want to do RTTY, JT,  PSK.   I know that there is a 
section, Page 31, in the manual that  address this area.  I do not wish to 
use the sound card in my PC as I  listen to back ground music while on the 
air. No the QSO can not hear it as I  have checked that out. For those that 
are into digi would you suggest  the built in function on the K3 or an 
external and why .  What  external if any and why.
 
Gerald Muller K9GEM
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Re: [Elecraft] Power-On message

2016-05-01 Thread Lyle
It is part of the Utility.

73,

Lyle KK7P


> Can't seem to find out how to change the power-on message in the manual.
> Hints?
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Re: [Elecraft] Power-On message

2016-05-01 Thread Mike Dodd

On 5/1/2016 11:53 AM, Ron Reis wrote:

Can't seem to find out how to change the power-on message in the manual.
Hints?


Use the utility.

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[Elecraft] Power-On message

2016-05-01 Thread Ron Reis
Can't seem to find out how to change the power-on message in the manual.
Hints?
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Re: [Elecraft] Px3 Utility Macro Download

2016-05-01 Thread Hajo Dezelski
​Hi Paul,

you are wellcome as always.
​

On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 5:11 PM, Paul Saffren N6HZ 
wrote:

> For now there is
> no way to import and export macros, but that feature is on my list.
>

​So I don't have to write another email for a feature request. Very well
anticipated.​

​73 de​

Hajo
​ DL1SDZ​


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Re: [Elecraft] N1MM, KX3, and KXPA100

2016-05-01 Thread Bob N3MNT
I use N1MM+ through the KXPA100 weekly and have no issues.  Check the baud
rate.  Should be 38,400.  Make sure KX3 is selected as radio.



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Re: [Elecraft] Px3 Utility Macro Download

2016-05-01 Thread Paul Saffren N6HZ
Hajo, 

PX3 macros can be backed  up and restored along with the configuration by
simply saving/restoring the configuration with the PX3 Utility. They can
only be edited inside the PX3 using an attached keyboard.  For now there is
no way to import and export macros, but that feature is on my list. 

Very 73, 

Paul






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Re: [Elecraft] K2 panadapter choices

2016-05-01 Thread Heinz Bärtschi
I probably have a Z1B kit in reserve. 
Could look for it next week and then contact you personally. Ok?

Heinz HB9BCB


> Am 01.05.2016 um 15:23 schrieb Jim Allen :
> 
> I've been in a very helpful discussion with Don Wilhelm about using my 
> Funcube Dongle Pro Plus in a second receiver/panadapter role with the K2.  
> Don suggests the Clifton Labs Z1B buffer amplifier, but those aren't 
> available anymore.
> 
> Does anyone have one of those devices sitting around unused, or know where to 
> find one, or are there any suggestions for alternatives?
> 
> 73 de W6OGC Jim Allen 
> 

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Re: [Elecraft] Prolific driver for Windows 10?

2016-05-01 Thread Kevin Stover

From the K3/K3S software download page, K3 Utilities and drivers section.

"Elecraft offers the KUSB serial-to-USB cable for USB only computers 
etc.Our cable was originally provided using a */Prolific/* chip set but 
since approximately July of 2010 we have been shipping KUSB cables which 
use the */FTDI/* chip set.


Before plugging in either of these cables to any of your computer's USB 
ports, you will need to have installed the correct drivers for your 
computer's operating system.   Drivers are available for most Windows, 
Mac, and Linux OS's.  Note that latest Windows 7 operating system 
already has the proper drivers included for the FTDI chip set and will 
automatically install them if you just plug the FTDI cable into a USB port.


/
//*Although both of these cables shipped with a mini CD, the drivers on 
this mini CD are not up to date.  Please follow the links below for the 
latest versions of the drivers.  Be sure to select the correct Operating 
System version."*/




On 4/30/2016 8:13 PM, Jack Colson wrote:

Will the driver that is supplied by Elecraft on the mini CD work on Windows 10? 
 It does on Win  7.
Thank you,
73,
Jack, W3TMZ
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Re: [Elecraft] Procedure: Setting the DSP filters for SSB

2016-05-01 Thread Kjeld Holm
Hi Don,
The people talking about High cut and low cut are correct. But in a contest
it may be easier just to select Filter width 1500 and Filter shift 750. 
Vy 73 de OZ1CCM, Kjeld

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Subject: [Elecraft] Procedure: Setting the DSP filters for SSB

One thing on my K3 that's made me wonder if I'm doing it right is how to
adjust the various filters and settings to accomplish two things.

1. During contests, how to best adjust to hear the station and not the guy
2.5KHz away

2. When trying to hear the weak DX, not be blasted by that guy from Florida
or Texas running a kilowatt.

I work SSB only at this point and haven't found any videos that show how to
best adjust things.

Don Kiser - AC2EV
RARA Board member
VE Team Leader
585-613-1035
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[Elecraft] K2 panadapter choices

2016-05-01 Thread Jim Allen
I've been in a very helpful discussion with Don Wilhelm about using my Funcube 
Dongle Pro Plus in a second receiver/panadapter role with the K2.  Don suggests 
the Clifton Labs Z1B buffer amplifier, but those aren't available anymore.

Does anyone have one of those devices sitting around unused, or know where to 
find one, or are there any suggestions for alternatives?

TIA

73 de W6OGC Jim Allen 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Main RX gone deaf

2016-05-01 Thread Udo Langenohl - DK5YA

Vic,

TX works perfect, it's just a RX issue. The pin diodes are all o.k., my 
guess: a relay has gone crazy in the switching circuitry. Or it's a low 
pass filter issue. Will investigate in these parts now.


73 Udo, DK5YA

Am 01.05.2016 um 06:40 schrieb Vic Rosenthal:

I would suspect one of the relays in the path from the antenna, through the RX 
ant switching circuitry. Then there are the diodes in the t/r switch.
If you have verified that the RX is working, it must have something to do with 
the path from the antenna.
Does it transmit OK? The lowpass filters are in the main RX path, I think.

Vic 4X6GP


On 1 May 2016, at 12:57 AM, Udo Langenohl - DK5YA  wrote:

Gents,

I had another test session today with my K3 and here's what I've done and what 
happened:

1. I've checked all the test points recommended by Elecraft. No issue found, 
all stages are working, there's noise increasing on each test point at the Main 
RX.

2. Fired up my signal generator again and started on the Main RX with a signal 
on the following frequencies and with these results:

Filter settings: 2.7KHz
Preamp off
Att: no
Signal strength: -63 dBm
Mode: USB

28.130 = S6
21.130 = S6
18.130 = S4
14.130 = S2 (!!)
10.130 = S4
7.130 =  S8 (!!)
3.513 =  S6

Same settings at the Sub RX (via AUX IN):

28.130 = S9+5
21.130 = S9+10
18.130 = S9+10
14.130 = S9+10
10.130 = S9+5
7.130 =  S9+10
3.513 =  S9+10

You will see that there are dramatic differences at the Main RX from band to 
band and from S2 (14 MHz) up to S8 (7 MHz). And of course when comparing Main 
RX with Sub RX. Also tried different filter settings (AM, CW), no change.

I have no idea what is happening here and what to do next.

73 Udo, DK5YA



Am 25.04.2016 um 22:02 schrieb Udo Langenohl - DK5YA:
Gentleman,

thanks for all so many replies. Will try to check all ideas tomorrow,
XYL permitting ... ;-).

73 Udo, DK5YA

P.S.: The issue occurs at the RX IN and TVTR IN ports of the KXV3A too.


Am 25.04.2016 um 17:57 schrieb Jerry:
Reseat the internal coax jumpers in the surf signal path.

Sent from my iPad


On Apr 25, 2016, at 11:52 AM, Graham g3tct  wrote:

Hi Udo
Before you start tearing the rig apart, two ideas:-

-is there a big difference for weak signals of say S4?
-if not, it may just be the S meter calibration that needs attention.
-if so, preamp on for either? Att on for main?

HTH
Graham


On 19:59, Udo Langenohl - DK5YA wrote:
Gentleman,

I'm struggling with a Main RX vs. Sub RX issue. My Main RX is rather
deaf compared to the Sub RX. I see at least 23.5dB attenuation
between Main RX and Sub RX when comparing highly stable signals from
my signal generator (HP8664A). This is only for ANT1/2 vs. AUX-IN!
Example:
-33dBm on 28.500
into AUX-IN (SUB RX): exactly 59 +40dB
into ANT 1 (Main RX): 59 +15dB
into ANT 2 (Main RX): 59 +15dB

I've checked all the usual suspects (pin diodes):
D1 and D5 on the KXV3A: o.k.
Each and every pin diode on the SUB IN board: o.k.
D5 on the Main RX board: o.k.

This is a K3 #59xx with almost everything inside money can buy.

My second K3 (serial #39xx) does not show this strange behavior.
Main RX and SUB RX show exactly the same values on ANT1/2 and AUX
IN. -33dBm is 59+40 on MAIN and SUB RX, no matter if Ant1, 2 or AUX IN.

Any idea? I'm searching for weeks now and I'm close to give up.

Udo, DK5YA

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