[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report
Good Evening, Twenty meters had a little QSB and some noise with state QSO parties all over. More QSO parties on forty meters. After a little searching I found some room. QSK is wonderful. It let me copy NO8V and W0CZ simultaneously. Different sending speeds helped too but my notes do look odd. Dave had a booming signal today after more antenna work. It is never really done from what I can tell. Either you're fixing one or moving one or building the next one. Dennis was doing well with ten watts. He must work on his antennas too. On 14050.5 kHz at 2200z: NO8V - John - MI W0CZ - Ken - ND K4TO - Dave - KY K4JPN - Steve - GA K1SW - Dennis - CT On 7048.0 kHz at z: K0DTJ - Brian - CA W6JHB - Jim - CA W0CZ - Ken - ND K6PJV - Dale - CA The folks in California all want to work on their houses but it's just too wet right now. While I am getting a break from the winter storms they have moved southward. It should fill their reservoirs. At sunset I still had three inches of snow but the trees are clear and tomorrow the sun will send it all down stream. The bands were fair today. If you are stuck at home over the next month you can always get on the air and call CQ. These Elecraft rigs work pretty well for that. Until next week stay well, Kevin. KD5ONS _ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-K3] Interesting P3 Anomaly
Don't know what you mean "doesn't represent your transmitted signal" It is leakage of your signal at the IF, I see it with my SDR that is tied to the P3 IF out and it looks exactly like the signal I see on a spectrum analyzer using a coupler. de Dave K5MWR On March 15, 2020 8:11:07 PM CDT, Brian K0DTJ wrote: >As I recall, if you disconnect the RS232 thru the P3 to the K3 it the >P3 will display your spectrum since it doesn't know to mute during TX. >Someone from Elecraft said it was due to "leakage" and is at IF so >doesn't represent your transmitted signal. Seems like you found a >software way to do this. :-) > >73, >Brian, K0DTJ > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. > >View/Reply Online (#32169): >https://groups.io/g/Elecraft-K3/message/32169 >Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/71988488/839119 >Group Owner: elecraft-k3+ow...@groups.io >Unsubscribe: >https://groups.io/g/Elecraft-K3/leave/1881001/1870350234/xyzzy >[do...@suddenlink.net] >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] 40 meter net
The 40 meter net continues to grow. Thanks to all check-ins and those that assisted with check-ins and relays. 3-15-2020 7.280 +/- Sundays at 1845Z WM6P Steve GA K3s 11453Net control WB9JNZ Eric ILK34017 K8NUCarl OH FT857 N4NRW Roger SC K31318 K6VWE StanMI K3 650 W3DDS Mike PA FT891 WA9ZPMMike ILK2 KE8LGN KenWV FT450D N0JW Jim CO KX3 1356 K1NW Brian RI K3 4974 KC0EMOKevin IA K3 561 WW4AAFRichard NC TS-850 W5ASF John TXIC7300 W9MOM Jim IL TS-520 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Interesting P3 Anomaly
As I recall, if you disconnect the RS232 thru the P3 to the K3 it the P3 will display your spectrum since it doesn't know to mute during TX. Someone from Elecraft said it was due to "leakage" and is at IF so doesn't represent your transmitted signal. Seems like you found a software way to do this. :-) 73, Brian, K0DTJ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] K3 w/KIO3B has confusing RTTY transmit behavior
Sorry... I posted this and it went to the wrong topic line. If there's a web interface for this reflector I'd rather use it. Right now using email interface. Sorry for the double posting. 73, Joe N9OK Some progress and an observation. I went thru KE7X's handy tutorial about how to make things work, and I had temporary success. Here's the process, paraphrased: * Ensure that MENU:MIC SEL is set to LINE IN and MENU:MIC+LIN is OFF * Optionally, set CONFIG:AFSK TX to FIL On. This adds a 400 Hz transmit audio filter to the AFSK signal to improve transmit signal-to-noise. * Hold TEST to put the K3S into transmit test mode. The TX icon will start to flash. * You may have to adjust the Main menu's VOX GN to get the audio from the computer to reliably key the transmitter. * If you are in transmit test mode, hold TEST to return to normal transmit. Note that all these settings were already set up correctly, but I carefully went thru the process and toggled each item off the correct setting, then back on. So, things were working perfectly, where I could transmit diddles directly from MMTTY. However, after I rebooted, things did not work after that. Proper operation was achieved again by modifying this menu pick: DATA MD: AFSK A:45 bps <-- modify to 75pbs. Now I can transmit again. Put it back to 45 where it belongs. I can still transmit at that point. What can cause this? Any ideas? Thanks to all those who provided ideas and assistance, both within the reflector and outside it. 73, Joe N9OK On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 12:49 PM Joe N9OK wrote: > Rich - yes, my MIC input is correctly set to Line In. > > 73 Joe N9OK > > > "In the Main Menu do you have: > > MAIN = MIC SEL = LINE IN set ? > > I think that is what fixed mine. > > Rich > > K3RWN" > > 73, Joe N9OK > > > On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 12:46 PM wrote: > >> Your message entitled >> >> Re: K3 w/KIO3B has confusing RTTY transmit behavior >> >> was successfully received by the Elecraft mailing list. >> >> List info page: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Your preferences: >> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/options/elecraft/n9ok%40myjdk.com >> > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Fwd: Elecraft post acknowledgement
73, Joe N9OK Some progress and an observation. I went thru KE7X's handy tutorial about how to make things work, and I had temporary success. Here's the process, paraphrased: * Ensure that MENU:MIC SEL is set to LINE IN and MENU:MIC+LIN is OFF * Optionally, set CONFIG:AFSK TX to FIL On. This adds a 400 Hz transmit audio filter to the AFSK signal to improve transmit signal-to-noise. * Hold TEST to put the K3S into transmit test mode. The TX icon will start to flash. * You may have to adjust the Main menu's VOX GN to get the audio from the computer to reliably key the transmitter. * If you are in transmit test mode, hold TEST to return to normal transmit. Note that all these settings were already set up correctly, but I carefully went thru the process and toggled each item off the correct setting, then back on. So, things were working perfectly, where I could transmit diddles directly from MMTTY. However, after I rebooted, things did not work after that. Proper operation was achieved again by modifying this menu pick: DATA MD: AFSK A:45 bps <-- modify to 75pbs. Now I can transmit again. Put it back to 45 where it belongs. I can still transmit at that point. What can cause this? Any ideas? Thanks to all those who provided ideas and assistance, both within the reflector and outside it. 73, Joe N9OK On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 12:49 PM Joe N9OK wrote: > Rich - yes, my MIC input is correctly set to Line In. > > 73 Joe N9OK > > > "In the Main Menu do you have: > > MAIN = MIC SEL = LINE IN set ? > > I think that is what fixed mine. > > Rich > > K3RWN" > > 73, Joe N9OK > > > On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 12:46 PM wrote: > >> Your message entitled >> >> Re: K3 w/KIO3B has confusing RTTY transmit behavior >> >> was successfully received by the Elecraft mailing list. >> >> List info page: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Your preferences: >> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/options/elecraft/n9ok%40myjdk.com >> > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Off-Topic: Your advice/suggestion about antenna
Well, I'm still under the impression that we are members of a knowledge-based hobby, and being willing to understand the basics of antennas seems like it fits that description. It doesn't take years of study to understand the basics ... a bit of reading the ARRL Antenna Book and a couple hours playing around with EZNEC+ covers that pretty nicely. Not being dismissive of advice from others who maybe had spent quite a while trying to understand antenna theory helps as well. I regularly try out different antennas, some for home use, some for Field Day, and some for other portable ventures. I model EVERYTHING before I try to build it and I guarantee it has saved me hours of wasted effort and lots of dollars of wasted money. I can also categorically state that I have learned FAR more about antennas from modeling than I ever did from trial and error.. 73, Dave AB7E p.s. A vertical with however many radials you can afford to lay down over really lossy ground will be a crummy antenna for low angle work. That's a fact. On 3/15/2020 12:37 PM, Edward R Cole wrote: OK, well one can study theory for several years before deciding what antenna to use ... or just put up something and try it. My guess a quarter-wave vertical with some radials will work. How well? You will only find out by trying it. 73, Ed __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Interesting P3 Anomaly
Mine seems to see a little "bleed through" when I'm transmitting. That might be what you see? Mine is weak from a K3, I don't have the TX Mon option? 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County On 3/15/2020 2:20 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote: While working 6M this afternoon, I used my P3 Utility to capture the stations signal that I was working. While the capture was taking place, about 3/4 through the capture screen, of course the P3 display had frozen as normal during this time. The station turned it to me, I pressed the TX switch and started talking. As soon as the P3 capture completed, and I while was talking, I noticed an active waveform on my P3. After some further tests, I realized this is my transmitted waveform being displayed on the P3. {How do you like them apples?} Normally one does not see their signal on their P3. But in this case, as the P3 Utility completed the capture and reverted the P3 to normal operation, it was then capturing my transmitted signal from the IF stage. Maybe I've missed this feature in the past. Has anyone else come across the phenomenon? Certainly a nice feature to have as it does capture the IF signal. Changing power levels makes no difference. And NO , I don't have the TX monitor option. 73 Bob, K4TAX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Interesting P3 Anomaly
While working 6M this afternoon, I used my P3 Utility to capture the stations signal that I was working. While the capture was taking place, about 3/4 through the capture screen, of course the P3 display had frozen as normal during this time. The station turned it to me, I pressed the TX switch and started talking. As soon as the P3 capture completed, and I while was talking, I noticed an active waveform on my P3. After some further tests, I realized this is my transmitted waveform being displayed on the P3. {How do you like them apples?} Normally one does not see their signal on their P3. But in this case, as the P3 Utility completed the capture and reverted the P3 to normal operation, it was then capturing my transmitted signal from the IF stage. Maybe I've missed this feature in the past. Has anyone else come across the phenomenon? Certainly a nice feature to have as it does capture the IF signal. Changing power levels makes no difference. And NO , I don't have the TX monitor option. 73 Bob, K4TAX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Off-Topic: Your advice/suggestion about antenna
Antenna fact: If it stayed up in the last storm, either (a) it was well built and properly installed, or (b) it wasn't large enough. Thus, if it works to your satisfaction, then it is a good antenna. 73 Bob, K4TAX On 3/15/2020 2:37 PM, Edward R Cole wrote: OK, well one can study theory for several years before deciding what antenna to use ... or just put up something and try it. My guess a quarter-wave vertical with some radials will work. How well? You will only find out by trying it. My favorite HF antenna has been the simple half-wave dipole -cheap, easy, quick. I did eventually obtain a triband trap yagi for 20-15-10m and works much better. Currently I have a 80/40m inverted-V ...and it works well for my needs. Worked a station on 80m SSB with S9 signals on Saturday at 11am! Sure he was only a hundred+ miles (short range is often harder). K3/10+KXPA100 On 630m (475-KHz) I have a 43-foot high inverted-L (that is 8% of a quarter-wave). And my radials are limited to 100-foot by my property lines. Obviously a very poor antenna. My CW signals was heard 4,000 miles away in Buffalo, NY. Not an everyday occurrence, but a surprise to me. 73, Ed --- There is some erroneous information here, as well as in Don W3FPR's post. Radials, whether buried or raised, only affect near field ground return currents.? You cannot improve ground conductivity beyond the radials, and the strength of the low angle lobe is directly affected by the ground conductivity several wavelengths distant from the vertical.? This is well established science and you can clearly see the effect in simple models. Dave?? AB7E 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com Dubus-NA Business mail: dubus...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rmcg...@blomand.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 w/KIO3B has confusing RTTY transmit behavior
Also make sure your sound cards are set to USB Codecs in the software. Sometimes windows has played games with me and went back to the PC's default cards. Ed.. AB4IQ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bob McGraw K4TAX Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2020 12:30 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 w/KIO3B has confusing RTTY transmit behavior In MMTTY, check on the drop down menu under OPTIONS, then at the bottom of the list, select SETUP menu, then TX pane. Be sure the Digital Output is about mid scale. Also, make sure the computer SPKR level is about 30 to 50% . On the K3: From the MENU the MIC SEL should show LINE IN. The DATA MD should be set for AFSK A and 45 BPS. The PITCH value should be 2125 - 170.The setting for LINE gain {use the MIC control} should be about 30. This works for my configuration when running MMTTY. 73 Bob, K4TAX On 3/15/2020 12:14 PM, Joe N9OK wrote: > Can't figure out how to reply to your post Rich in your thread. > Audio Mark and Shift in MMTTY are identical to the Pitch control > settings in my K3. > MAIN:AFSK TX is set to Filter On. This makes no difference for my > transmit power, however. > > 73, Joe N9OK > > > On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 12:06 PM Joe N9OK wrote: > >> Line In is selected, I should have included that in my original posting. >> 73, Joe N9OK >> >> >> On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 11:42 AM Joe N9OK wrote: >> >>> Hi, I've recently upgraded my K3 with numerous upgrades including a >>> KIO3B board. I've successfully configured most of what I need but >>> RTTY has been a problem. >>> >>> What I see is that I am able to transmit power in RTTY mode if my K3 >>> is set into *DATA A* mode. If I set my K3 to *AFSK A* mode, the >>> radio has the appearance of transmitting in RTTY mode but there is >>> no power. IE, TX illuminates, the ACL meter moves. But Monitor is >>> silent and there is no RF power. MIC gain is set the same for both >>> modes. VOX is set for both (not PTT). >>> >>> The problem first showed up in DXLAB WinWarbler. However, I've >>> confirmed the exact same problem occurs when I am running a >>> stand-alone MMTTY executable. >>> >>> I realize that I could use an external FSK interface. But I"m >>> looking for a simple setup, and the documentation I've seen >>> indicates that I should be able to obtain output power using *AFSK A* mode. >>> >>> It appears to me that there is an audio routing issue in my K3. >>> However, that seems unlikely, as others would have reported the >>> issue and it would have been corrected. What I'm hoping is that >>> there is a simple setup issue that someone can direct me towards. >>> >>> Any ideas would be extremely appreciated. >>> >>> 73, Joe N9OK >>> > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > rmcg...@blomand.net > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ab...@comcast.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Off-Topic: Your advice/suggestion about antenna
OK, well one can study theory for several years before deciding what antenna to use ... or just put up something and try it. My guess a quarter-wave vertical with some radials will work. How well? You will only find out by trying it. My favorite HF antenna has been the simple half-wave dipole -cheap, easy, quick. I did eventually obtain a triband trap yagi for 20-15-10m and works much better. Currently I have a 80/40m inverted-V ...and it works well for my needs. Worked a station on 80m SSB with S9 signals on Saturday at 11am! Sure he was only a hundred+ miles (short range is often harder). K3/10+KXPA100 On 630m (475-KHz) I have a 43-foot high inverted-L (that is 8% of a quarter-wave). And my radials are limited to 100-foot by my property lines. Obviously a very poor antenna. My CW signals was heard 4,000 miles away in Buffalo, NY. Not an everyday occurrence, but a surprise to me. 73, Ed --- There is some erroneous information here, as well as in Don W3FPR's post. Radials, whether buried or raised, only affect near field ground return currents.? You cannot improve ground conductivity beyond the radials, and the strength of the low angle lobe is directly affected by the ground conductivity several wavelengths distant from the vertical.? This is well established science and you can clearly see the effect in simple models. Dave?? AB7E 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com Dubus-NA Business mail: dubus...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] How Are We Coping?
I'm 80 with a marginal heart so I'm staying home. So I hooked up my K1, yes K1, and tuned 20. I hear OY1CT strong, banging the QSOs away at pretty decent clip. Called him with my 5 watts, he sent DJ0?, I sent DJ0RD, he sent DJ0RD 579 TU 73. That's 2000 km. from my vertical dipole He has a big antenna and very good ears Vy 73 de Bob DJ0RD/WU5T __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 w/KIO3B has confusing RTTY transmit behavior
In the Main Menu do you have: MAIN = MIC SEL = LINE IN set ? I think that is what fixed mine. Rich K3RWN On 3/15/2020 12:42 PM, Joe N9OK wrote: Hi, I've recently upgraded my K3 with numerous upgrades including a KIO3B board. I've successfully configured most of what I need but RTTY has been a problem. What I see is that I am able to transmit power in RTTY mode if my K3 is set into *DATA A* mode. If I set my K3 to *AFSK A* mode, the radio has the appearance of transmitting in RTTY mode but there is no power. IE, TX illuminates, the ACL meter moves. But Monitor is silent and there is no RF power. MIC gain is set the same for both modes. VOX is set for both (not PTT). The problem first showed up in DXLAB WinWarbler. However, I've confirmed the exact same problem occurs when I am running a stand-alone MMTTY executable. I realize that I could use an external FSK interface. But I"m looking for a simple setup, and the documentation I've seen indicates that I should be able to obtain output power using *AFSK A* mode. It appears to me that there is an audio routing issue in my K3. However, that seems unlikely, as others would have reported the issue and it would have been corrected. What I'm hoping is that there is a simple setup issue that someone can direct me towards. Any ideas would be extremely appreciated. 73, Joe N9OK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rwnewbo...@comcast.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 w/KIO3B has confusing RTTY transmit behavior
Not getting emails so my replies are not inline. Sorry... Bob, with your exact settings I get the same problematic operation originally mentioned in this thread. I'm starting to wonder if there might be a defect in my K3? 73 Joe N9OK "In MMTTY, check on the drop down menu under OPTIONS, then at the bottom of the list, select SETUP menu, then TX pane. Be sure the Digital Output is about mid scale. Also, make sure the computer SPKR level is about 30 to 50% . On the K3: From the MENU the MIC SEL should show LINE IN. The DATA MD should be set for AFSK A and 45 BPS. The PITCH value should be 2125 - 170.The setting for LINE gain {use the MIC control} should be about 30. This works for my configuration when running MMTTY. 73 Bob, K4TAX" 73, Joe N9OK On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 12:14 PM Joe N9OK wrote: > Can't figure out how to reply to your post Rich in your thread. > Audio Mark and Shift in MMTTY are identical to the Pitch control settings > in my K3. > MAIN:AFSK TX is set to Filter On. This makes no difference for my transmit > power, however. > > 73, Joe N9OK > > > On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 12:06 PM Joe N9OK wrote: > >> Line In is selected, I should have included that in my original posting. >> 73, Joe N9OK >> >> >> On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 11:42 AM Joe N9OK wrote: >> >>> Hi, I've recently upgraded my K3 with numerous upgrades including a >>> KIO3B board. I've successfully configured most of what I need but RTTY has >>> been a problem. >>> >>> What I see is that I am able to transmit power in RTTY mode if my K3 is >>> set into *DATA A* mode. If I set my K3 to *AFSK A* mode, the radio has >>> the appearance of transmitting in RTTY mode but there is no power. IE, TX >>> illuminates, the ACL meter moves. But Monitor is silent and there is no RF >>> power. MIC gain is set the same for both modes. VOX is set for both (not >>> PTT). >>> >>> The problem first showed up in DXLAB WinWarbler. However, I've confirmed >>> the exact same problem occurs when I am running a stand-alone MMTTY >>> executable. >>> >>> I realize that I could use an external FSK interface. But I"m >>> looking for a simple setup, and the documentation I've seen indicates that >>> I should be able to obtain output power using *AFSK A* mode. >>> >>> It appears to me that there is an audio routing issue in my K3. However, >>> that seems unlikely, as others would have reported the issue and it would >>> have been corrected. What I'm hoping is that there is a simple setup issue >>> that someone can direct me towards. >>> >>> Any ideas would be extremely appreciated. >>> >>> 73, Joe N9OK >>> >> __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 w/KIO3B has confusing RTTY transmit behavior
In MMTTY, check on the drop down menu under OPTIONS, then at the bottom of the list, select SETUP menu, then TX pane. Be sure the Digital Output is about mid scale. Also, make sure the computer SPKR level is about 30 to 50% . On the K3: From the MENU the MIC SEL should show LINE IN. The DATA MD should be set for AFSK A and 45 BPS. The PITCH value should be 2125 - 170. The setting for LINE gain {use the MIC control} should be about 30. This works for my configuration when running MMTTY. 73 Bob, K4TAX On 3/15/2020 12:14 PM, Joe N9OK wrote: Can't figure out how to reply to your post Rich in your thread. Audio Mark and Shift in MMTTY are identical to the Pitch control settings in my K3. MAIN:AFSK TX is set to Filter On. This makes no difference for my transmit power, however. 73, Joe N9OK On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 12:06 PM Joe N9OK wrote: Line In is selected, I should have included that in my original posting. 73, Joe N9OK On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 11:42 AM Joe N9OK wrote: Hi, I've recently upgraded my K3 with numerous upgrades including a KIO3B board. I've successfully configured most of what I need but RTTY has been a problem. What I see is that I am able to transmit power in RTTY mode if my K3 is set into *DATA A* mode. If I set my K3 to *AFSK A* mode, the radio has the appearance of transmitting in RTTY mode but there is no power. IE, TX illuminates, the ACL meter moves. But Monitor is silent and there is no RF power. MIC gain is set the same for both modes. VOX is set for both (not PTT). The problem first showed up in DXLAB WinWarbler. However, I've confirmed the exact same problem occurs when I am running a stand-alone MMTTY executable. I realize that I could use an external FSK interface. But I"m looking for a simple setup, and the documentation I've seen indicates that I should be able to obtain output power using *AFSK A* mode. It appears to me that there is an audio routing issue in my K3. However, that seems unlikely, as others would have reported the issue and it would have been corrected. What I'm hoping is that there is a simple setup issue that someone can direct me towards. Any ideas would be extremely appreciated. 73, Joe N9OK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rmcg...@blomand.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 w/KIO3B has confusing RTTY transmit behavior
Can't figure out how to reply to your post Rich in your thread. Audio Mark and Shift in MMTTY are identical to the Pitch control settings in my K3. MAIN:AFSK TX is set to Filter On. This makes no difference for my transmit power, however. 73, Joe N9OK On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 12:06 PM Joe N9OK wrote: > Line In is selected, I should have included that in my original posting. > 73, Joe N9OK > > > On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 11:42 AM Joe N9OK wrote: > >> Hi, I've recently upgraded my K3 with numerous upgrades including a KIO3B >> board. I've successfully configured most of what I need but RTTY has been a >> problem. >> >> What I see is that I am able to transmit power in RTTY mode if my K3 is >> set into *DATA A* mode. If I set my K3 to *AFSK A* mode, the radio has >> the appearance of transmitting in RTTY mode but there is no power. IE, TX >> illuminates, the ACL meter moves. But Monitor is silent and there is no RF >> power. MIC gain is set the same for both modes. VOX is set for both (not >> PTT). >> >> The problem first showed up in DXLAB WinWarbler. However, I've confirmed >> the exact same problem occurs when I am running a stand-alone MMTTY >> executable. >> >> I realize that I could use an external FSK interface. But I"m looking for >> a simple setup, and the documentation I've seen indicates that I should be >> able to obtain output power using *AFSK A* mode. >> >> It appears to me that there is an audio routing issue in my K3. However, >> that seems unlikely, as others would have reported the issue and it would >> have been corrected. What I'm hoping is that there is a simple setup issue >> that someone can direct me towards. >> >> Any ideas would be extremely appreciated. >> >> 73, Joe N9OK >> > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 w/KIO3B has confusing RTTY transmit behavior
Line In is selected, I should have included that in my original posting. 73, Joe N9OK On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 11:42 AM Joe N9OK wrote: > Hi, I've recently upgraded my K3 with numerous upgrades including a KIO3B > board. I've successfully configured most of what I need but RTTY has been a > problem. > > What I see is that I am able to transmit power in RTTY mode if my K3 is > set into *DATA A* mode. If I set my K3 to *AFSK A* mode, the radio has > the appearance of transmitting in RTTY mode but there is no power. IE, TX > illuminates, the ACL meter moves. But Monitor is silent and there is no RF > power. MIC gain is set the same for both modes. VOX is set for both (not > PTT). > > The problem first showed up in DXLAB WinWarbler. However, I've confirmed > the exact same problem occurs when I am running a stand-alone MMTTY > executable. > > I realize that I could use an external FSK interface. But I"m looking for > a simple setup, and the documentation I've seen indicates that I should be > able to obtain output power using *AFSK A* mode. > > It appears to me that there is an audio routing issue in my K3. However, > that seems unlikely, as others would have reported the issue and it would > have been corrected. What I'm hoping is that there is a simple setup issue > that someone can direct me towards. > > Any ideas would be extremely appreciated. > > 73, Joe N9OK > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 w/KIO3B has confusing RTTY transmit behavior
Joe, In AFSK A, the audio Mark frequency you choose in the software should match (or at least be reasonably close to) the setting of the K3's PITCH control. This is especially important if you have the CONFIG:AFSK TX setting set to FIL ON (which is recommended). By any chance were you using a Mark tone in the software that was different from the PITCH setting in the radio? 73, Rich VE3KI N9OK wrote: Hi, I've recently upgraded my K3 with numerous upgrades including a KIO3 Bboard. I've successfully configured most of what I need but RTTY has been a problem. What I see is that I am able to transmit power in RTTY mode if my K3 is set into *DATA A* mode. If I set my K3 to *AFSK A* mode, the radio has the appearance of transmitting in RTTY mode but there is no power. IE, TX illuminates, the ACL meter moves. But Monitor is silent and there is no RF power. MIC gain is set the same for both modes. VOX is set for both (not PTT). The problem first showed up in DXLAB WinWarbler. However, I've confirmed the exact same problem occurs when I am running a stand-alone MMTTY executable. I realize that I could use an external FSK interface. But I"m looking for asimple setup, and the documentation I've seen indicates that I should be able to obtain output power using *AFSK A* mode. It appears to me that there is an audio routing issue in my K3. However, that seems unlikely, as others would have reported the issue and it would have been corrected. What I'm hoping is that there is a simple setup issue that someone can direct me towards. Any ideas would be extremely appreciated. 73, Joe N9OK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] K3 w/KIO3B has confusing RTTY transmit behavior
Hi, I've recently upgraded my K3 with numerous upgrades including a KIO3B board. I've successfully configured most of what I need but RTTY has been a problem. What I see is that I am able to transmit power in RTTY mode if my K3 is set into *DATA A* mode. If I set my K3 to *AFSK A* mode, the radio has the appearance of transmitting in RTTY mode but there is no power. IE, TX illuminates, the ACL meter moves. But Monitor is silent and there is no RF power. MIC gain is set the same for both modes. VOX is set for both (not PTT). The problem first showed up in DXLAB WinWarbler. However, I've confirmed the exact same problem occurs when I am running a stand-alone MMTTY executable. I realize that I could use an external FSK interface. But I"m looking for a simple setup, and the documentation I've seen indicates that I should be able to obtain output power using *AFSK A* mode. It appears to me that there is an audio routing issue in my K3. However, that seems unlikely, as others would have reported the issue and it would have been corrected. What I'm hoping is that there is a simple setup issue that someone can direct me towards. Any ideas would be extremely appreciated. 73, Joe N9OK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: Well-being check
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Well-being check
> On Mar 15, 2020, at 05:10, Lyn Norstad wrote: > > How is everyone doing? Good morning from almost the west coast. My middle child (Older Son) is visiting with me here in Carson City for awhile. We had a couple of nice days last week and spent them over at a local park. I setup a SOTAbeams mast and wire antenna and played with the KX3 driving a Virgil Stamps MiniPacker HF amp, which will produce 30-40w, depending on band and drive. I was able to check into the Noontime Net and a couple of others with a wire and 30w phone. Then the winds and rain, now snow returned. So we are flying some toy drones I bought (in the house) and learning to fly them line-of-sight. He’s studying for the Tech exam and I think he’ll pass it. It will be administered next Saturday. > It's actually kind of fun to be roaming the house at 4 AM. Very quietly > enjoying good coffee, Girl Scout cookies (complete and balanced diet ... > eh?) and making hundreds of contacts worldwide in the wee hours of the day. I’ve always been an early riser, but not that early. However, this year the time change really threw me for a loop. I’m dealing with a very ill canine friend and that’s not helping. She is scheduled for brain surgery to remove a tumor the first of the month. I’m hoping she makes it that long. It would be good to have a few more years with her. I work part-time for myself now as a consultant (engineer). So, I rarely HAVE to go to meetings and I like that just fine. Now I think I hear coffee calling… 73 all... David Thompson, AG7TX Jack of All Trades Master of None dbthomp...@me.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: Well-being check
On 15/03/2020 12:10, Lyn Norstad wrote: > I have also opted out of all my other group activities, and in fact most of > them (ARES/RACES/Skywarn/etc.) have gone into "postpone" mode. In several > other cases we are also looking at setting up virtual meetings and will > conduct our business either by conference call or over internet channels. > I'd be curious to know how you all are coping with this situation. The RSGB was due to hold its thrice-yearly face-to-face meeting of the Volunteer Leadership Team (VLT) yesterday, consisting of board members, HQ staff, committee chairman, honorary officers and regional representatives. Instead, because of Covid-19 concerns, we ran it as a video conference using the Cisco Webex system. It worked very well, despite hardly any of the 34 participants having even heard of it before. 73, Richard G4DYA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] OT: Well-being check
How is everyone doing? Physically I am experiencing a recurrence of a very nasty flu-like cold that also hit me in November (a couple weeks after my annual flu shot) and dragged on for about six weeks. I feel better if I am vertical than if I am horizontal, so am sleeping in shorter spurts and have become a very early riser. It's actually kind of fun to be roaming the house at 4 AM. Very quietly enjoying good coffee, Girl Scout cookies (complete and balanced diet ... eh?) and making hundreds of contacts worldwide in the wee hours of the day. Our church has closed all four campuses until further notice, so that means I am free from weekend video camera duties and get to enjoy the services streamed over the internet (I am at the opposite end of the chain now). I have also opted out of all my other group activities, and in fact most of them (ARES/RACES/Skywarn/etc.) have gone into "postpone" mode. In several other cases we are also looking at setting up virtual meetings and will conduct our business either by conference call or over internet channels. I'd be curious to know how you all are coping with this situation. 73 Lyn, W0LEN __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com