Re: [Elecraft] Something to discuss other than K4

2020-09-24 Thread Phil Kane
On 9/24/2020 4:21 PM, David Haines wrote:

> One of my engineer sons sent me the following link about Furniture ESD. 
> Is it for real?  Is this something else we have to worry about while
> using our new K4's?

The document said in part "The only clue to the problem was that the
malfunction seemed to be related to a person rising from a chair"

Tell me something that I don't know.  In the 1950s (when I was first
licensed) my parents' dinette set was of the then-popular
chrome-and-vinyl construction, and every time I got up from the chair I
would get zapped in the back of my knees.  Static electricity  generated
by cloth sliding on the plastic.  I cured the problem by touching  a
table fork or spoon to the metal chair rung to discharge the spark.  I
was under the impression that this was cured by switching to an
anti-static type of plastic or fabric some time ago.

It's "great" that all that time and brain power was spent on
rediscovering the wheel. Are chrome-and-vinyl dinette sets still being sold?

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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[Elecraft] KX3 and Chinese MX-P50M 45w amp

2020-09-24 Thread MIKE ZANE
Need a little help. I just bought a KX3 and have it working OK. I also have a 
45w amp that I would like to work with the kx3. However, with no info on the 
keying line coming from the amp, I have no idea if its Ok to use. I see in the 
Elecraft manual that the "keyline" and tip would be used to connect to key the 
amp. I can't which of the sections on a TRRS jack to use. Ring 2 or ring 3? 
Also  don't know how much current is on that amp key line. Measured 15V DC when 
it is on and off measured 400 ohms, if that is any help. Any one got any ideas 
on this? Thanks,  Mike
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[Elecraft] KIO3B and LIne In Question?

2020-09-24 Thread Rich
Fred's book states that if you have a jack plug into the LINE IN then 
the USB audio is disconnected.  At least I think that is what he means.


I receive audio via the USB just fine with a plug in the LINE IN jack

What am I missing?

Rich

K3RWN

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[Elecraft] Does the K4 support IPv6?

2020-09-24 Thread Christopher Hoover
Does the K4 support IPv6?

73 de AI6KG
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[Elecraft] Something to discuss other than K4

2020-09-24 Thread David Haines
Like most of you, I can't wait to get my hands on a K4, but it will be 
the kit form, which will be awhile.


Meanwhile I want to toss out something about RFI, which of course can be 
an issue for a really sensitive transciever like the K4.


One of my engineer sons sent me the following link about Furniture ESD.  
Is it for real?  Is this something else we have to worry about while 
using our new K4's?


http://www.emcesd.com/pdf/eos93.pdf

73,
david KC1DNY
Still very happy with my KX3, but dreaming ... .
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Re: [Elecraft] Did any one receive their K4 yet, other than testers?

2020-09-24 Thread Paul Van Dyke
I want to hazard a guess in saying that if they're just getting the manuals
out, then NO. But I would hazard an opinion that they are very close..

Paul  KB9AVO

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Re: [Elecraft] K4 IF signal 'OUT' for external application useage

2020-09-24 Thread David Gilbert



VERY cool ...

Thanks es 73,
Dave   AB7E



On 9/24/2020 12:30 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

IQ streaming data from the K4 will be available over Ethernet.

Wayne
N6KR



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On Sep 24, 2020, at 12:14 PM, David Gilbert  wrote:


Except that an I/Q output would also enable the convenient use of 
other 3rd party software.  If Elecraft didn't bother to include it in 
the K4, I think that's a mistake.


Dave   AB7E



On 9/24/2020 11:58 AM, Buck wrote:
As I recall, there is an HDMI output on the back of the K4.  You can 
choose to have it display the front panel, the panadapter or both on 
an external monitor.


You won't need to use I/Q to an LP-PAN.

Buck, k4ia
Honor Roll
8BDXCC
EasyWayHamBooks.com




On 9/24/2020 2:51 PM, Brian wrote:


Looking at the recent (though long from complete) K4 guide, I don't 
see an IF OUT per se as I have in the accessory board in my K3 (or 
in fact the output I/Q  from the KX3 I can run directly into my 
sound card on the computer). Does the XVTR IF OUT suffice for this?


The reason I ask is that eventually my LP-PAN is going to die - 
hopefully not soon but I have been using it for quite some time 
now. I use the IF  out from the K3 into the LP-PAN and then into NaP3.


Now I do realize there is a panadapter on the K4 - obviously - but 
I DO enjoy (in fact pretty much need) the large computer display 
for the pana/spectrum display and DO use the NaP3 software controls 
for K3 functions on my keyboard and mouse for tuning and such.
The display on the K4 is not the same thing I don't think. Even 
with some keyboard/mouse controls native to the K4 (?) the display 
size is a deterent to me as it exists. Apologies to the company. I 
assume maybe there MIGHT be a video card OUT re. the K4 panadapter 
at some time, but that is a maybe.. and more money.


I won't be nearly the first to get a K4.. down the line probably as 
I have a K3S here and a K3 at the in-law's property. If I did get 
that 'last final rig' and it was  a K4 (Iikely as I don't have much 
in the shack since 2000 that was not Elecraft) I would, as an older 
fellow then.. want the larger visual display of the computer/IF 
out/NaP3 sort of solution.


So, do I get some IF out I can use?
tnx
Brian VE3VAW


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Re: [Elecraft] KAT3A

2020-09-24 Thread Alan - G4GNX
ISTR you remove the center strengthening bar (plain aluminum) and it 
will probably help to remove the side panel. Then it's a matter of 
gentle 'wiggling'.


73,

Alan. G4GNX


-- Original Message --
From: "Grant Youngman" 
To: "Tom Fitzpatrick" 
Cc: "Elecraft Refl" 
Sent: 24/09/2020 22:35:08
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT3A


Have you looked at the manual?  You can follow the installation instructions in 
reverse …. might give you a hint.


 On Sep 24, 2020, at 5:26 PM, Tom Fitzpatrick via Elecraft 
 wrote:

   Can anyone tell me the secret to pulling the KAT3A tuner card out of a 
K3? I changed it out once for the newest version but forgot how I did it. Part 
of th chassis frame stops the board from being pulled out.

 Tom, K4IE



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Re: [Elecraft] KAT3A

2020-09-24 Thread Grant Youngman
Have you looked at the manual?  You can follow the installation instructions in 
reverse …. might give you a hint.

> On Sep 24, 2020, at 5:26 PM, Tom Fitzpatrick via Elecraft 
>  wrote:
> 
>   Can anyone tell me the secret to pulling the KAT3A tuner card out of a 
> K3? I changed it out once for the newest version but forgot how I did it. 
> Part of th chassis frame stops the board from being pulled out.
> 
> Tom, K4IE
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[Elecraft] KAT3A

2020-09-24 Thread Tom Fitzpatrick via Elecraft
  Can anyone tell me the secret to pulling the KAT3A tuner card out of a 
K3? I changed it out once for the newest version but forgot how I did it. Part 
of th chassis frame stops the board from being pulled out.

Tom, K4IE
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Re: [Elecraft] "Introduction to the Elecraft K4" manual now available

2020-09-24 Thread Roy

Excellent! I'm looking forward to generating many new synapses!

Roy,   K6XK

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[Elecraft] Did any one receive their K4 yet, other than testers?

2020-09-24 Thread Jim Borowski

Still wishing and hoping. Jim K9TFSent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft] "Introduction to the Elecraft K4" manual now available

2020-09-24 Thread Edward R Cole
Impressive.  I can see a lot of work went into this (I was a former 
tech writer for Hughes Aircraft 1968-71).  If I could afford it, I 
would be on board to order the K4D when the VHF/UHF modules are 
available.  My K3/10 (SN-4340) does well for me, though.


73, Ed - KL7UW
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[Elecraft] Y Cable

2020-09-24 Thread Jim Miller
Can't find the Y cable any longer on the Elecraft web site. Where is it
hiding?

Jim ab3cv
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Re: [Elecraft] "Introduction to the Elecraft K4" manual now available

2020-09-24 Thread Lou W0FK
My computer monitor has finger smudges on it now

Lou, W0FK



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Re: [Elecraft] K4 IF signal 'OUT' for external application useage

2020-09-24 Thread Wayne Burdick
IQ streaming data from the K4 will be available over Ethernet. 

Wayne
N6KR



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> On Sep 24, 2020, at 12:14 PM, David Gilbert  wrote:
> 
> 
> Except that an I/Q output would also enable the convenient use of other 3rd 
> party software.  If Elecraft didn't bother to include it in the K4, I think 
> that's a mistake.
> 
> Dave   AB7E
> 
> 
> 
>> On 9/24/2020 11:58 AM, Buck wrote:
>> As I recall, there is an HDMI output on the back of the K4.  You can choose 
>> to have it display the front panel, the panadapter or both on an external 
>> monitor.
>> 
>> You won't need to use I/Q to an LP-PAN.
>> 
>> Buck, k4ia
>> Honor Roll
>> 8BDXCC
>> EasyWayHamBooks.com
> 
>> 
>>> On 9/24/2020 2:51 PM, Brian wrote:
>>> 
>>> Looking at the recent (though long from complete) K4 guide, I don't see an 
>>> IF OUT per se as I have in the accessory board in my K3 (or in fact the 
>>> output I/Q  from the KX3 I can run directly into my sound card on the 
>>> computer).   Does the XVTR IF OUT suffice for this?
>>> 
>>> The reason I ask is that eventually my LP-PAN is going to die - hopefully 
>>> not soon but I have been using it for quite some time now. I use the IF  
>>> out from the K3 into the LP-PAN and then into NaP3.
>>> 
>>> Now I do realize there is a panadapter on the K4 - obviously - but I DO 
>>> enjoy (in fact pretty much need) the large computer display for the 
>>> pana/spectrum display and DO use the NaP3 software controls for K3 
>>> functions on my keyboard and mouse for tuning and such.
>>> The display on the K4 is not the same thing I don't think. Even with some 
>>> keyboard/mouse controls native to the K4 (?) the display size is a deterent 
>>> to me as it exists.  Apologies to the company. I assume maybe there MIGHT 
>>> be a video card OUT re. the K4 panadapter at some time, but that is a 
>>> maybe.. and more money.
>>> 
>>> I won't be nearly the first to get a K4.. down the line probably as I have 
>>> a K3S here and a K3 at the in-law's property. If I did get that 'last final 
>>> rig' and it was  a K4 (Iikely as I don't have much in the shack since 2000 
>>> that was not Elecraft) I would, as an older fellow then.. want the larger 
>>> visual display of the computer/IF out/NaP3 sort of solution.
>>> 
>>> So, do I get some IF out I can use?
>>> tnx
>>> Brian VE3VAW
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 IF signal 'OUT' for external application useage

2020-09-24 Thread David Gilbert


Except that an I/Q output would also enable the convenient use of other 
3rd party software.  If Elecraft didn't bother to include it in the K4, 
I think that's a mistake.


Dave   AB7E



On 9/24/2020 11:58 AM, Buck wrote:
As I recall, there is an HDMI output on the back of the K4.  You can 
choose to have it display the front panel, the panadapter or both on 
an external monitor.


You won't need to use I/Q to an LP-PAN.

Buck, k4ia
Honor Roll
8BDXCC
EasyWayHamBooks.com




On 9/24/2020 2:51 PM, Brian wrote:


Looking at the recent (though long from complete) K4 guide, I don't 
see an IF OUT per se as I have in the accessory board in my K3 (or in 
fact the output I/Q  from the KX3 I can run directly into my sound 
card on the computer).   Does the XVTR IF OUT suffice for this?


The reason I ask is that eventually my LP-PAN is going to die - 
hopefully not soon but I have been using it for quite some time now. 
I use the IF  out from the K3 into the LP-PAN and then into NaP3.


Now I do realize there is a panadapter on the K4 - obviously - but I 
DO enjoy (in fact pretty much need) the large computer display for 
the pana/spectrum display and DO use the NaP3 software controls for 
K3 functions on my keyboard and mouse for tuning and such.
The display on the K4 is not the same thing I don't think. Even with 
some keyboard/mouse controls native to the K4 (?) the display size is 
a deterent to me as it exists.  Apologies to the company. I assume 
maybe there MIGHT be a video card OUT re. the K4 panadapter at some 
time, but that is a maybe.. and more money.


I won't be nearly the first to get a K4.. down the line probably as I 
have a K3S here and a K3 at the in-law's property. If I did get that 
'last final rig' and it was  a K4 (Iikely as I don't have much in the 
shack since 2000 that was not Elecraft) I would, as an older fellow 
then.. want the larger visual display of the computer/IF out/NaP3 
sort of solution.


So, do I get some IF out I can use?
tnx
Brian VE3VAW


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Re: [Elecraft] Status of Add-ons for K3?

2020-09-24 Thread David Gilbert


Since the off topic posts seem to mostly come from the same culprits, 
sorting by sender might be a good alternative.


Dave   AB7E



On 9/24/2020 9:12 AM, Mike Harris via Elecraft wrote:

Hi,

And a perfect example of why email sorting on subject doesn't work.

Regards,

Mike VP8NO

On 24/09/2020 12:43, KENT TRIMBLE wrote:

What all this has to do with Elecraft is beyond me.  Good thing the 
K4 is keeping Eric occupied.


73,

Kent  K9ZTV

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Re: [Elecraft] K4 IF signal 'OUT' for external application useage

2020-09-24 Thread Buck
As I recall, there is an HDMI output on the back of the K4.  You can 
choose to have it display the front panel, the panadapter or both on an 
external monitor.


You won't need to use I/Q to an LP-PAN.

Buck, k4ia
Honor Roll
8BDXCC
EasyWayHamBooks.com

On 9/24/2020 2:51 PM, Brian wrote:


Looking at the recent (though long from complete) K4 guide, I don't see an IF 
OUT per se as I have in the accessory board in my K3 (or in fact the output I/Q 
 from the KX3 I can run directly into my sound card on the computer).   Does 
the XVTR IF OUT suffice for this?

The reason I ask is that eventually my LP-PAN is going to die - hopefully not 
soon but I have been using it for quite some time now. I use the IF  out from 
the K3 into the LP-PAN and then into NaP3.

Now I do realize there is a panadapter on the K4 - obviously - but I DO enjoy 
(in fact pretty much need) the large computer display for the pana/spectrum 
display and DO use the NaP3 software controls for K3 functions on my keyboard 
and mouse for tuning and such.
The display on the K4 is not the same thing I don't think. Even with some 
keyboard/mouse controls native to the K4 (?) the display size is a deterent to 
me as it exists.  Apologies to the company. I assume maybe there MIGHT be a 
video card OUT re. the K4 panadapter at some time, but that is a maybe.. and 
more money.

I won't be nearly the first to get a K4.. down the line probably as I have a 
K3S here and a K3 at the in-law's property. If I did get that 'last final rig' 
and it was  a K4 (Iikely as I don't have much in the shack since 2000 that was 
not Elecraft) I would, as an older fellow then.. want the larger visual display 
of the computer/IF out/NaP3 sort of solution.

So, do I get some IF out I can use?
tnx
Brian VE3VAW

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Re: [Elecraft] "Introduction to the Elecraft K4" manual now available

2020-09-24 Thread Buck
First glance, it is really well done.  I love the yellow arrows and hate 
it when a manual says push the X button but you have no idea where the X 
button is.


Buck, k4ia
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On 9/24/2020 1:49 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

The first draft of "Introduction to the Elecraft K4" is now available, at:

   
https://ftp.elecraft.com/K4/Manuals%20Downloads/Introduction%20to%20the%20Elecraft%20K4,%20rev.%20A-7.pdf

This is a 40-page, full-color manual with dozens of illustrations highlighting the 
K4's user interface and features. The document's 8.5 x 14" form factor is 
uniquely suited to the K4, allowing illustrations to be virtually the same size as 
the front panel. A printed, spiral-bound copy of this manual will be included with 
the K4.

I'd like to thank those who volunteered to review this and other K4 
documentation, including our intrepid field testers. Additional input is always 
welcome. We'll be updating these documents as K4 software evolves.

73,
Wayne
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[Elecraft] K4 IF signal 'OUT' for external application useage

2020-09-24 Thread Brian


Looking at the recent (though long from complete) K4 guide, I don't see an IF 
OUT per se as I have in the accessory board in my K3 (or in fact the output I/Q 
 from the KX3 I can run directly into my sound card on the computer).   Does 
the XVTR IF OUT suffice for this?

The reason I ask is that eventually my LP-PAN is going to die - hopefully not 
soon but I have been using it for quite some time now. I use the IF  out from 
the K3 into the LP-PAN and then into NaP3.

Now I do realize there is a panadapter on the K4 - obviously - but I DO enjoy 
(in fact pretty much need) the large computer display for the pana/spectrum 
display and DO use the NaP3 software controls for K3 functions on my keyboard 
and mouse for tuning and such.
The display on the K4 is not the same thing I don't think. Even with some 
keyboard/mouse controls native to the K4 (?) the display size is a deterent to 
me as it exists.  Apologies to the company. I assume maybe there MIGHT be a 
video card OUT re. the K4 panadapter at some time, but that is a maybe.. and 
more money.

I won't be nearly the first to get a K4.. down the line probably as I have a 
K3S here and a K3 at the in-law's property. If I did get that 'last final rig' 
and it was  a K4 (Iikely as I don't have much in the shack since 2000 that was 
not Elecraft) I would, as an older fellow then.. want the larger visual display 
of the computer/IF out/NaP3 sort of solution.

So, do I get some IF out I can use?
tnx
Brian VE3VAW

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Re: [Elecraft] "Introduction to the Elecraft K4" manual now available

2020-09-24 Thread Tom Azlin W7SUA

Very nice intro, thanks! de tom w7sua

On 9/24/2020 10:49 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

The first draft of "Introduction to the Elecraft K4" is now available, at:

   
https://ftp.elecraft.com/K4/Manuals%20Downloads/Introduction%20to%20the%20Elecraft%20K4,%20rev.%20A-7.pdf

This is a 40-page, full-color manual with dozens of illustrations highlighting the 
K4's user interface and features. The document's 8.5 x 14" form factor is 
uniquely suited to the K4, allowing illustrations to be virtually the same size as 
the front panel. A printed, spiral-bound copy of this manual will be included with 
the K4.

I'd like to thank those who volunteered to review this and other K4 
documentation, including our intrepid field testers. Additional input is always 
welcome. We'll be updating these documents as K4 software evolves.

73,
Wayne
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[Elecraft] "Introduction to the Elecraft K4" manual now available

2020-09-24 Thread Wayne Burdick
The first draft of "Introduction to the Elecraft K4" is now available, at:

  
https://ftp.elecraft.com/K4/Manuals%20Downloads/Introduction%20to%20the%20Elecraft%20K4,%20rev.%20A-7.pdf

This is a 40-page, full-color manual with dozens of illustrations highlighting 
the K4's user interface and features. The document's 8.5 x 14" form factor is 
uniquely suited to the K4, allowing illustrations to be virtually the same size 
as the front panel. A printed, spiral-bound copy of this manual will be 
included with the K4.

I'd like to thank those who volunteered to review this and other K4 
documentation, including our intrepid field testers. Additional input is always 
welcome. We'll be updating these documents as K4 software evolves.

73,
Wayne
N6KR





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Re: [Elecraft] Off topic and subject change [was: Status of Add-ons for K3?]

2020-09-24 Thread Eric Swartz
[End of Thread] due to way OFF topic drift.

73,
Eric
List moderator, among other daily mayhem.. 
elecraft.com
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> On Sep 24, 2020, at 9:50 AM, Alan - G4GNX  wrote:
> 
> It really would help if folks were not too lazy to change the subject line 
> to reflect the actual content. Then we could all decide for ourselves whether 
> to bother to start reading it.
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Re: [Elecraft] Off topic and subject change [was: Status of Add-ons for K3?]

2020-09-24 Thread Alan - G4GNX
It really would help if folks were not too lazy to change the subject 
line to reflect the actual content. Then we could all decide for 
ourselves whether to bother to start reading it.


73,

Alan. G4GNX


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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Status of Add-ons for K3?


What, may I ask do these cigarette posts have to do with Elecraft radios?  You 
guys are WAY out of line.

W0EB




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Re: [Elecraft] Status of Add-ons for K3?

2020-09-24 Thread Nr4c
Gotta have something to do waiting for our K4s. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Sep 24, 2020, at 11:41 AM, Jim Sheldon  wrote:
> 
> What, may I ask do these cigarette posts have to do with Elecraft radios?  
> You guys are WAY out of line.
> 
> W0EB
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2020, at 10:38 AM, Charlie T  wrote:
>> 
>> The circle was always red.
>> What changed was the green package (Chromium) and gold (Copper) stripes.
>> Although it was more a marketing ploy, which worked by-the-way, than a real 
>> war effort.
>> 
>> 73, Charlie k3ICH
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
>> Behalf Of Nr4c
>> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 9:54 AM
>> To: Dave Cole 
>> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Status of Add-ons for K3?
>> 
>> Who remembers “Lucky Strike green has gone to war.”  When the green circle 
>> changed to red. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> ...nr4c. bill
>> 
>> 
 On Sep 24, 2020, at 8:37 AM, Dave Cole  wrote:
>>> 
>>> LSMFT...  Remember that one?  The clean version that is...
>>> 
>>> 73, and thanks,
>>> Dave (NK7Z)
>>> https://www.nk7z.net
>>> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
>>> ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
>>> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
>>> 
> On 9/24/20 5:18 AM, Nr4c wrote:
 “I can’t believe I ate the whole thing”?
 Sent from my iPhone
 ...nr4c. bill
>> On Sep 24, 2020, at 7:51 AM, Dean L  wrote:
> 
> Only about 35 years...
> I too thought I don't remember the commercial, but I do remember the 
> woman breaking the glass with her voice.
> And the "cool" guy in the overstuffed chair, the music blowing his 
> hair back and his wine glasses to his hand You've come a long way 
> baby!
> 73
> Dean
> 
>> On Sun, Sep 20, 2020, 15:09 David Gilbert  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Yes, that was the line.  I thought something sounded off in what 
>> KD7YZ wrote but I couldn't place it.  I do certainly remember the 
>> commercial, though, and I don't think it was all that long ago that it 
>> aired.
>> 
>> Dave   AB7E
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 9/20/2020 11:43 AM, Ken Widelitz wrote:
>>> I always thought the line was "Is it live or is it Memorex?"
>>> 
 On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 11:33 AM Fred Jensen  
 wrote:
>>> 
 and some of us remember the arrival of the first TV station in 
 town
 
 73,
 
 Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
 Sparks NV DM09dn
 Washoe County
 
 On 9/20/2020 10:11 AM, David Gilbert wrote:
> You're forgetting that you're talking to hams here ... almost 
> all of us are likely to be old enough to remember that commercial.
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Re: [Elecraft] Status of Add-ons for K3?

2020-09-24 Thread Mike Harris via Elecraft

Hi,

And a perfect example of why email sorting on subject doesn't work.

Regards,

Mike VP8NO

On 24/09/2020 12:43, KENT TRIMBLE wrote:

What all this has to do with Elecraft is beyond me.  Good thing the K4 
is keeping Eric occupied.


73,

Kent  K9ZTV

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[Elecraft] MicroKeyer II Sold

2020-09-24 Thread Gene Sochor

This item has been sold (in record timethank you!).

On 9/24/2020 9:50 AM, Gene Sochor wrote:
New, never used, still in original carton, MicroKeyer II with K3 
cableset, external CW/voice memory keypad & CD.
$250 including shipping within USA. Was $430+ when purchased. PayPal 
accepted. N9SW Gene Phone 630-497-2999.


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Re: [Elecraft] Status of Add-ons for K3?

2020-09-24 Thread KENT TRIMBLE
The advertising slogan meant, "Lucky Strike Means Fine Tobacco."  But 
during the Truman administration it came to mean "Leave Some Meat for 
Truman" in response to a proposal urging American families to forego the 
consumption of meat two days a week.


Gotta love bureaucrats.

What all this has to do with Elecraft is beyond me.  Good thing the K4 
is keeping Eric occupied.


73,

Kent  K9ZTV



On 9/24/2020 7:35 AM, Dave Cole wrote:

LSMFT... Remember that one?





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Re: [Elecraft] Status of Add-ons for K3?

2020-09-24 Thread Jim Sheldon
What, may I ask do these cigarette posts have to do with Elecraft radios?  You 
guys are WAY out of line.

W0EB

Sent from my iPad

> On Sep 24, 2020, at 10:38 AM, Charlie T  wrote:
> 
> The circle was always red.
> What changed was the green package (Chromium) and gold (Copper) stripes.
> Although it was more a marketing ploy, which worked by-the-way, than a real 
> war effort.
> 
> 73, Charlie k3ICH
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
> Behalf Of Nr4c
> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 9:54 AM
> To: Dave Cole 
> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Status of Add-ons for K3?
> 
> Who remembers “Lucky Strike green has gone to war.”  When the green circle 
> changed to red. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
> 
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2020, at 8:37 AM, Dave Cole  wrote:
>> 
>> LSMFT...  Remember that one?  The clean version that is...
>> 
>> 73, and thanks,
>> Dave (NK7Z)
>> https://www.nk7z.net
>> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
>> ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
>> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
>> 
 On 9/24/20 5:18 AM, Nr4c wrote:
>>> “I can’t believe I ate the whole thing”?
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> ...nr4c. bill
> On Sep 24, 2020, at 7:51 AM, Dean L  wrote:
 
 Only about 35 years...
 I too thought I don't remember the commercial, but I do remember the 
 woman breaking the glass with her voice.
 And the "cool" guy in the overstuffed chair, the music blowing his 
 hair back and his wine glasses to his hand You've come a long way 
 baby!
 73
 Dean
 
> On Sun, Sep 20, 2020, 15:09 David Gilbert  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Yes, that was the line.  I thought something sounded off in what 
> KD7YZ wrote but I couldn't place it.  I do certainly remember the 
> commercial, though, and I don't think it was all that long ago that it 
> aired.
> 
> Dave   AB7E
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 9/20/2020 11:43 AM, Ken Widelitz wrote:
>> I always thought the line was "Is it live or is it Memorex?"
>> 
>>> On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 11:33 AM Fred Jensen  wrote:
>> 
>>> and some of us remember the arrival of the first TV station in 
>>> town
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> 
>>> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
>>> Sparks NV DM09dn
>>> Washoe County
>>> 
>>> On 9/20/2020 10:11 AM, David Gilbert wrote:
 You're forgetting that you're talking to hams here ... almost 
 all of us are likely to be old enough to remember that commercial.
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Status of Add-ons for K3?

2020-09-24 Thread Charlie T
The circle was always red.
What changed was the green package (Chromium) and gold (Copper) stripes.
Although it was more a marketing ploy, which worked by-the-way, than a real war 
effort.

73, Charlie k3ICH



-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of Nr4c
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 9:54 AM
To: Dave Cole 
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Status of Add-ons for K3?

Who remembers “Lucky Strike green has gone to war.”  When the green circle 
changed to red. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Sep 24, 2020, at 8:37 AM, Dave Cole  wrote:
> 
> LSMFT...  Remember that one?  The clean version that is...
> 
> 73, and thanks,
> Dave (NK7Z)
> https://www.nk7z.net
> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
> ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
> 
>> On 9/24/20 5:18 AM, Nr4c wrote:
>> “I can’t believe I ate the whole thing”?
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> ...nr4c. bill
 On Sep 24, 2020, at 7:51 AM, Dean L  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Only about 35 years...
>>> I too thought I don't remember the commercial, but I do remember the 
>>> woman breaking the glass with her voice.
>>> And the "cool" guy in the overstuffed chair, the music blowing his 
>>> hair back and his wine glasses to his hand You've come a long way 
>>> baby!
>>> 73
>>> Dean
>>> 
 On Sun, Sep 20, 2020, 15:09 David Gilbert  wrote:
 
 
 
 Yes, that was the line.  I thought something sounded off in what 
 KD7YZ wrote but I couldn't place it.  I do certainly remember the 
 commercial, though, and I don't think it was all that long ago that it 
 aired.
 
 Dave   AB7E
 
 
 
 
 
> On 9/20/2020 11:43 AM, Ken Widelitz wrote:
> I always thought the line was "Is it live or is it Memorex?"
> 
>> On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 11:33 AM Fred Jensen  wrote:
> 
>> and some of us remember the arrival of the first TV station in 
>> town
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
>> Sparks NV DM09dn
>> Washoe County
>> 
>> On 9/20/2020 10:11 AM, David Gilbert wrote:
>>> You're forgetting that you're talking to hams here ... almost 
>>> all of us are likely to be old enough to remember that commercial.
>>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Status of Add-ons for K3?

2020-09-24 Thread Charlie T
I remember, but do you know WHY the green "went to war"?
(Don't cheat and look it up.)

Charlie k3ICH


-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of Nr4c
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 9:54 AM
To: Dave Cole 
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Status of Add-ons for K3?

Who remembers “Lucky Strike green has gone to war.”  When the green circle 
changed to red. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Sep 24, 2020, at 8:37 AM, Dave Cole  wrote:
> 
> LSMFT...  Remember that one?  The clean version that is...
> 
> 73, and thanks,
> Dave (NK7Z)
> https://www.nk7z.net
> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
> ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
> 
>> On 9/24/20 5:18 AM, Nr4c wrote:
>> “I can’t believe I ate the whole thing”?
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> ...nr4c. bill
 On Sep 24, 2020, at 7:51 AM, Dean L  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Only about 35 years...
>>> I too thought I don't remember the commercial, but I do remember the 
>>> woman breaking the glass with her voice.
>>> And the "cool" guy in the overstuffed chair, the music blowing his 
>>> hair back and his wine glasses to his hand You've come a long way 
>>> baby!
>>> 73
>>> Dean
>>> 
 On Sun, Sep 20, 2020, 15:09 David Gilbert  wrote:
 
 
 
 Yes, that was the line.  I thought something sounded off in what 
 KD7YZ wrote but I couldn't place it.  I do certainly remember the 
 commercial, though, and I don't think it was all that long ago that it 
 aired.
 
 Dave   AB7E
 
 
 
 
 
> On 9/20/2020 11:43 AM, Ken Widelitz wrote:
> I always thought the line was "Is it live or is it Memorex?"
> 
>> On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 11:33 AM Fred Jensen  wrote:
> 
>> and some of us remember the arrival of the first TV station in 
>> town
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
>> Sparks NV DM09dn
>> Washoe County
>> 
>> On 9/20/2020 10:11 AM, David Gilbert wrote:
>>> You're forgetting that you're talking to hams here ... almost 
>>> all of us are likely to be old enough to remember that commercial.
>>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Status of Add-ons for K3?

2020-09-24 Thread Nr4c
I always figured they wanted the dye for camouflage. But the real reason was 
marketing. Women didn’t care for the old packaging. 

Sent from my iPhone
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> On Sep 24, 2020, at 10:03 AM, Charlie T  wrote:
> 
> I remember, but do you know WHY the green "went to war"?
> (Don't cheat and look it up.)
> 
> Charlie k3ICH
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
> Behalf Of Nr4c
> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 9:54 AM
> To: Dave Cole 
> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Status of Add-ons for K3?
> 
> Who remembers “Lucky Strike green has gone to war.”  When the green circle 
> changed to red. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
> 
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2020, at 8:37 AM, Dave Cole  wrote:
>> 
>> LSMFT...  Remember that one?  The clean version that is...
>> 
>> 73, and thanks,
>> Dave (NK7Z)
>> https://www.nk7z.net
>> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
>> ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
>> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
>> 
 On 9/24/20 5:18 AM, Nr4c wrote:
>>> “I can’t believe I ate the whole thing”?
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> ...nr4c. bill
> On Sep 24, 2020, at 7:51 AM, Dean L  wrote:
 
 Only about 35 years...
 I too thought I don't remember the commercial, but I do remember the 
 woman breaking the glass with her voice.
 And the "cool" guy in the overstuffed chair, the music blowing his 
 hair back and his wine glasses to his hand You've come a long way 
 baby!
 73
 Dean
 
> On Sun, Sep 20, 2020, 15:09 David Gilbert  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Yes, that was the line.  I thought something sounded off in what 
> KD7YZ wrote but I couldn't place it.  I do certainly remember the 
> commercial, though, and I don't think it was all that long ago that it 
> aired.
> 
> Dave   AB7E
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 9/20/2020 11:43 AM, Ken Widelitz wrote:
>> I always thought the line was "Is it live or is it Memorex?"
>> 
>>> On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 11:33 AM Fred Jensen  wrote:
>> 
>>> and some of us remember the arrival of the first TV station in 
>>> town
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> 
>>> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
>>> Sparks NV DM09dn
>>> Washoe County
>>> 
>>> On 9/20/2020 10:11 AM, David Gilbert wrote:
 You're forgetting that you're talking to hams here ... almost 
 all of us are likely to be old enough to remember that commercial.
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Status of Add-ons for K3?

2020-09-24 Thread Dave Cole

I'm impressed Bill!  :)

73, and thanks,
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On 9/24/20 8:20 AM, Nr4c wrote:

Sorry. I just realized the original package was green and changed to white, not 
the circle which has always been red.

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill



On Sep 24, 2020, at 9:56 AM, Nr4c  wrote:

Who remembers “Lucky Strike green has gone to war.”  When the green circle 
changed to red.

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill



On Sep 24, 2020, at 8:37 AM, Dave Cole  wrote:

LSMFT...  Remember that one?  The clean version that is...

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources


On 9/24/20 5:18 AM, Nr4c wrote:

“I can’t believe I ate the whole thing”?
Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill

On Sep 24, 2020, at 7:51 AM, Dean L  wrote:


Only about 35 years...
I too thought I don't remember the commercial, but I do remember the woman
breaking the glass with her voice.
And the "cool" guy in the overstuffed chair, the music blowing his hair
back and his wine glasses to his hand
You've come a long way baby!
73
Dean


On Sun, Sep 20, 2020, 15:09 David Gilbert  wrote:



Yes, that was the line.  I thought something sounded off in what KD7YZ
wrote but I couldn't place it.  I do certainly remember the commercial,
though, and I don't think it was all that long ago that it aired.

Dave   AB7E






On 9/20/2020 11:43 AM, Ken Widelitz wrote:
I always thought the line was "Is it live or is it Memorex?"


On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 11:33 AM Fred Jensen  wrote:



and some of us remember the arrival of the first TV station in town

73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 9/20/2020 10:11 AM, David Gilbert wrote:

You're forgetting that you're talking to hams here ... almost all of
us are likely to be old enough to remember that commercial.


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Re: [Elecraft] Status of Add-ons for K3?

2020-09-24 Thread Nr4c
Sorry. I just realized the original package was green and changed to white, not 
the circle which has always been red. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Sep 24, 2020, at 9:56 AM, Nr4c  wrote:
> 
> Who remembers “Lucky Strike green has gone to war.”  When the green circle 
> changed to red. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
> 
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2020, at 8:37 AM, Dave Cole  wrote:
>> 
>> LSMFT...  Remember that one?  The clean version that is...
>> 
>> 73, and thanks,
>> Dave (NK7Z)
>> https://www.nk7z.net
>> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
>> ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
>> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
>> 
 On 9/24/20 5:18 AM, Nr4c wrote:
>>> “I can’t believe I ate the whole thing”?
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> ...nr4c. bill
> On Sep 24, 2020, at 7:51 AM, Dean L  wrote:
 
 Only about 35 years...
 I too thought I don't remember the commercial, but I do remember the woman
 breaking the glass with her voice.
 And the "cool" guy in the overstuffed chair, the music blowing his hair
 back and his wine glasses to his hand
 You've come a long way baby!
 73
 Dean
 
> On Sun, Sep 20, 2020, 15:09 David Gilbert  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Yes, that was the line.  I thought something sounded off in what KD7YZ
> wrote but I couldn't place it.  I do certainly remember the commercial,
> though, and I don't think it was all that long ago that it aired.
> 
> Dave   AB7E
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 9/20/2020 11:43 AM, Ken Widelitz wrote:
>> I always thought the line was "Is it live or is it Memorex?"
>> 
>>> On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 11:33 AM Fred Jensen  wrote:
>> 
>>> and some of us remember the arrival of the first TV station in town
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> 
>>> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
>>> Sparks NV DM09dn
>>> Washoe County
>>> 
>>> On 9/20/2020 10:11 AM, David Gilbert wrote:
 You're forgetting that you're talking to hams here ... almost all of
 us are likely to be old enough to remember that commercial.
 
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[Elecraft] FS: Microham MicroKeyer II NIB

2020-09-24 Thread Gene Sochor
New, never used, still in original carton, MicroKeyer II with K3 
cableset, external CW/voice memory keypad & CD.
$250 including shipping within USA. Was $430+ when purchased. PayPal 
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Re: [Elecraft] Status of Add-ons for K3?

2020-09-24 Thread Nr4c
Who remembers “Lucky Strike green has gone to war.”  When the green circle 
changed to red. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Sep 24, 2020, at 8:37 AM, Dave Cole  wrote:
> 
> LSMFT...  Remember that one?  The clean version that is...
> 
> 73, and thanks,
> Dave (NK7Z)
> https://www.nk7z.net
> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
> ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
> 
>> On 9/24/20 5:18 AM, Nr4c wrote:
>> “I can’t believe I ate the whole thing”?
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> ...nr4c. bill
 On Sep 24, 2020, at 7:51 AM, Dean L  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Only about 35 years...
>>> I too thought I don't remember the commercial, but I do remember the woman
>>> breaking the glass with her voice.
>>> And the "cool" guy in the overstuffed chair, the music blowing his hair
>>> back and his wine glasses to his hand
>>> You've come a long way baby!
>>> 73
>>> Dean
>>> 
 On Sun, Sep 20, 2020, 15:09 David Gilbert  wrote:
 
 
 
 Yes, that was the line.  I thought something sounded off in what KD7YZ
 wrote but I couldn't place it.  I do certainly remember the commercial,
 though, and I don't think it was all that long ago that it aired.
 
 Dave   AB7E
 
 
 
 
 
> On 9/20/2020 11:43 AM, Ken Widelitz wrote:
> I always thought the line was "Is it live or is it Memorex?"
> 
>> On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 11:33 AM Fred Jensen  wrote:
> 
>> and some of us remember the arrival of the first TV station in town
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
>> Sparks NV DM09dn
>> Washoe County
>> 
>> On 9/20/2020 10:11 AM, David Gilbert wrote:
>>> You're forgetting that you're talking to hams here ... almost all of
>>> us are likely to be old enough to remember that commercial.
>>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Status of Add-ons for K3?

2020-09-24 Thread Dave Cole

LSMFT...  Remember that one?  The clean version that is...

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
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ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 9/24/20 5:18 AM, Nr4c wrote:

“I can’t believe I ate the whole thing”?

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill



On Sep 24, 2020, at 7:51 AM, Dean L  wrote:

Only about 35 years...
I too thought I don't remember the commercial, but I do remember the woman
breaking the glass with her voice.
And the "cool" guy in the overstuffed chair, the music blowing his hair
back and his wine glasses to his hand
You've come a long way baby!
73
Dean


On Sun, Sep 20, 2020, 15:09 David Gilbert  wrote:



Yes, that was the line.  I thought something sounded off in what KD7YZ
wrote but I couldn't place it.  I do certainly remember the commercial,
though, and I don't think it was all that long ago that it aired.

Dave   AB7E






On 9/20/2020 11:43 AM, Ken Widelitz wrote:
I always thought the line was "Is it live or is it Memorex?"


On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 11:33 AM Fred Jensen  wrote:



and some of us remember the arrival of the first TV station in town

73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 9/20/2020 10:11 AM, David Gilbert wrote:

You're forgetting that you're talking to hams here ... almost all of
us are likely to be old enough to remember that commercial.


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Re: [Elecraft] Status of Add-ons for K3?

2020-09-24 Thread Nr4c
“I can’t believe I ate the whole thing”?

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Sep 24, 2020, at 7:51 AM, Dean L  wrote:
> 
> Only about 35 years...
> I too thought I don't remember the commercial, but I do remember the woman
> breaking the glass with her voice.
> And the "cool" guy in the overstuffed chair, the music blowing his hair
> back and his wine glasses to his hand
> You've come a long way baby!
> 73
> Dean
> 
>> On Sun, Sep 20, 2020, 15:09 David Gilbert  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Yes, that was the line.  I thought something sounded off in what KD7YZ
>> wrote but I couldn't place it.  I do certainly remember the commercial,
>> though, and I don't think it was all that long ago that it aired.
>> 
>> Dave   AB7E
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 9/20/2020 11:43 AM, Ken Widelitz wrote:
>>> I always thought the line was "Is it live or is it Memorex?"
>>> 
 On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 11:33 AM Fred Jensen  wrote:
>>> 
 and some of us remember the arrival of the first TV station in town
 
 73,
 
 Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
 Sparks NV DM09dn
 Washoe County
 
 On 9/20/2020 10:11 AM, David Gilbert wrote:
> You're forgetting that you're talking to hams here ... almost all of
> us are likely to be old enough to remember that commercial.
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Status of Add-ons for K3?

2020-09-24 Thread Dean L
Only about 35 years...
I too thought I don't remember the commercial, but I do remember the woman
breaking the glass with her voice.
And the "cool" guy in the overstuffed chair, the music blowing his hair
back and his wine glasses to his hand
You've come a long way baby!
73
Dean

On Sun, Sep 20, 2020, 15:09 David Gilbert  wrote:

>
>
> Yes, that was the line.  I thought something sounded off in what KD7YZ
> wrote but I couldn't place it.  I do certainly remember the commercial,
> though, and I don't think it was all that long ago that it aired.
>
> Dave   AB7E
>
>
>
>
>
> On 9/20/2020 11:43 AM, Ken Widelitz wrote:
> > I always thought the line was "Is it live or is it Memorex?"
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 11:33 AM Fred Jensen  wrote:
> >
> >> and some of us remember the arrival of the first TV station in town
> >>
> >> 73,
> >>
> >> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
> >> Sparks NV DM09dn
> >> Washoe County
> >>
> >> On 9/20/2020 10:11 AM, David Gilbert wrote:
> >>> You're forgetting that you're talking to hams here ... almost all of
> >>> us are likely to be old enough to remember that commercial.
> >>>
> >>> 73,
> >>> Dave   AB7E
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 9/20/2020 5:40 AM, Bob KD7YZ wrote:
>  Magic or Memorex?
>  (most of you are too young to remember the TV commercial)
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