Re: [Elecraft] Firesign Theater

[Frank Scolaro]

Oh Nick, you're such a tool...




-Original Message-
>From: Bill Coleman 
>Sent: Apr 24, 2021 9:56 PM
>To: Morgan Bailey 
>Cc: Elecraft 
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Firesign Theater
>
>“Hey, be broke the President!”
>
>…
>
>“Would Mister ‘ah, Clem’ please report to the hospitality shelter…"
>
>> On Apr 22, 2021, at 6:03 PM, Morgan Bailey  wrote:
>> 
>> We are all bozos on this buss. LOL...The first time I ever heard
>> Quadrafonic stereo on a record.
>> 
>> 73, Morgan NJ8M
>> BS + MS + $2.98 = COFFEE
>> Real Life Experience = Priceless, says the man who set his back yard on
>> fire with a breadboard tuner loading a 160 meter inverted L with 1000
>> watts. LOL
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 1:41 PM Dave Cole  wrote:
>> 
>>> Do you live in an award winning communications trailer?  Can you jump
>>> the hole to the center of the Earth?  Is your first name Nick?  Do you
>>> know the Lonesome Beet?  If so, then you might be a Bozo...
>>> 
>>> 73, and thanks,
>>> Dave (NK7Z)
>>> https://www.nk7z.net
>>> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
>>> ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
>>> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
>>> 
>>> On 4/22/21 8:47 AM, Josh Fiden wrote:
 I’m not the only Firesign Theater fan!
 
 Can’t wait to have some quality time hearing receive audio in the cans
>>> (not just a hamfest).
 
 73
 Josh W6XU
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
> On Apr 22, 2021, at 6:49 AM, Henry Pollock - K4TMC 
>>> wrote:
> 
> See Subject Line...Happy Reading!
 
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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement

[kevinr]

Good Evening,

   It was a good week.  Sunny and chilly, now wet and foggy.  On 
Wednesday I was out pruning when I saw a largish, white raptor ridge 
soaring past.  The next opening gave me more markings.  An elbow patch 
underneath the wing and little color.  It seemed familiar, accipter of 
Oregon was my first search.  I got five hits but none of them fit.  For 
some reason most photos show hawks from above.  When was the last time 
you saw a hawk from above?  I digress.  I grabbed my Hawks field guide 
and searched for regional falcons.  Still no luck.  Then I scanned the 
photos of the underside of the wings.  That got me the right markings 
but it was not a falcon, or a hawk.  It was an osprey.  Must have been 
soaring from the Tualatin River watershed north to the Columbia River.  
Incorrect assumptions led me astray.  The pointy wings, which hinted 
accipter, were really him while he was slowing down by "crowing".  Since 
there are no rivers or lakes nearby I did not think of a water bird.


  A CME hit today.  The auroral oval is very much awake. However, the 
solar flux rate is down to 77.  This suggests noisy conditions with QSB, 
of course.  There are some sunspots too.  One of them is active and 
aimed at us.  You never know.



Please join us on (or near):

14050 kHz at 2200z Sunday (3 PM PDT Sunday)
  7047 kHz at z Monday (5 PM PDT Sunday)

   73,
  Kevin. KD5ONS


-


Slide rule: Post Versalog II, far, far away

Drafting set: Dietzgen, five feet away

Triangle set: Post, five feet away

Mechanical pencil: Kohinoor, eight feet away

Architectural ruler: within arm's reach

Engineering ruler: five feet away

Closest drawing board, with T-square: ten feet away

Mechanical drawing classes: 2 years in high school, 1 semester in college.

Typing class: 1 year in high school -- topped out at 65 wpm

16 years of training by a WWII Marine Corps Drill Instructor: priceless :)

I use my typing skills every day.  The construction techniques I learned 
in mechanical drawing help me draw with modern CAD tools about once a 
month.



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Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

[Bill Coleman]

When I started Tech in 1979, those drafting courses were no longer required.

And, indeed, they retired the card punches for the FORTRAN courses in 1981-2. I 
was part of the User Assistance team in the computer center that helped all 
those EE 1010 students navigate their way to using the interactive terminals….

> On Apr 24, 2021, at 2:55 AM, Mike Morrow  wrote:
> 
>  In actuality those high school drafting skills prepared me completely for 
> the year of drafting courses that was mandatory at Geogia Tech in 1970.  I'd 
> finish a lab drafting session in less than 45 minutes while my buddies needed 
> the full three hours.  In those pre-calculator pre-computer days the only 
> tools that an undergrad student needed were a good slide rule (mine cost $36 
> in 1969, about $260 today) and a drafting set.  To use the Univac 1108 campus 
> scientific mainframe for Fortran IV programs, we submitted hollerith cards we 
> punched using IBM 026 and 029 card punches.

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Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

[Bill Coleman]

“Drafting?”

No, we didn’t call it that. It was “Industrial Arts”. I remember taking in 7th 
grade. And a few of us took the second semester Industrial Arts rather than 
shop due to scheduling issues.

That was back in 1973-4. It was one of my favorite classes as well.

I still draw up schematics on grid paper with a pencil. Old fashioned in this 
modern day, but still fun, and just as rewarding for my simple designs.

> On Apr 24, 2021, at 1:08 AM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> 
> OK, I've really dated myself now. 
> 
> Anyone remember "drafting"? A favorite class in high school: blueprints, 
> mechanical drawings, schematics, straight edges, hand lettering, projections 
> and elevations. We invented things to draw that weren't real, but looked like 
> they should be. Did all the math by hand -- on a slide rule, if necessary. 
> Day-dreamed about what we might one day build.
> 
> 45 years later, we're using tools we couldn't have imagined. Modeling 
> circuits and objects with millions of parameters and vectors, realizing them 
> in virtual space, manipulating them in real time. 
...
> 
> Here's to those moments, and to that timeless pursuit: turning abstractions 
> into reality.
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 

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Re: [Elecraft] Firesign Theater

[Bill Coleman]

“Hey, be broke the President!”

…

“Would Mister ‘ah, Clem’ please report to the hospitality shelter…"

> On Apr 22, 2021, at 6:03 PM, Morgan Bailey  wrote:
> 
> We are all bozos on this buss. LOL...The first time I ever heard
> Quadrafonic stereo on a record.
> 
> 73, Morgan NJ8M
> BS + MS + $2.98 = COFFEE
> Real Life Experience = Priceless, says the man who set his back yard on
> fire with a breadboard tuner loading a 160 meter inverted L with 1000
> watts. LOL
> 
> 
> On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 1:41 PM Dave Cole  wrote:
> 
>> Do you live in an award winning communications trailer?  Can you jump
>> the hole to the center of the Earth?  Is your first name Nick?  Do you
>> know the Lonesome Beet?  If so, then you might be a Bozo...
>> 
>> 73, and thanks,
>> Dave (NK7Z)
>> https://www.nk7z.net
>> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
>> ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
>> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
>> 
>> On 4/22/21 8:47 AM, Josh Fiden wrote:
>>> I’m not the only Firesign Theater fan!
>>> 
>>> Can’t wait to have some quality time hearing receive audio in the cans
>> (not just a hamfest).
>>> 
>>> 73
>>> Josh W6XU
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
 On Apr 22, 2021, at 6:49 AM, Henry Pollock - K4TMC 
>> wrote:
 
 See Subject Line...Happy Reading!
>>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S P3 for sale, Sold...

[Tom]

*The K3s and P3 have been sold. thank you to all. *

On 4/24/2021 12:05 PM, Tom wrote:

From a local club email list server...

*Transceiver for sale*

I have the following transceiver and pan adaptor for sale which 
belonged to my friend Jim Forsman, K7BIE, who became a silent key on 
February 20^th of this year:


(1)*Elecraft K3s HF Transceiver*, S/N 11182 with its manual and the 
following installed options:


Filter, 2.70 Khz

KAT3 antenna tuner

KIO3B USB control & sound card

KPA3 built in 100 watt amplifier

KXV3B I/O interface

Price: $2,200.00


(1)*Elecraft P3 Pan Adaptor *with all cables and manual

Price: $400.00 


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Re: [Elecraft] P

[Dave Cole]

R

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 4/24/21 4:20 PM, Julia Tuttle wrote:

Q

On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 7:20 PM Sid Frissell  wrote:




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Re: [Elecraft] P

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Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

[Don Wilhelm]

I did take a Mechanical Drawing class in High School.  It was of some 
use in my EE classes in college, but mostly drawing lines for schematics 
at that time (1960 era) - a straightedge and a compass or plastic 
template for making circles (remember tubes) was all that was needed at 
that time.  We graduated to transistors in my senior year.


Those HS class skills were mainly unused for many years until I took an 
early retirement and started a custom woodworking shop. Then those 
skills gave me the ability to sit down with a customer and sketch out 
what they wanted in a perspective image, making changes until the 
customer and I were satisfied about what they wanted me to build.


73,
Don W3FPR



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Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

[Edward H Russell]

I'm with you on this. Freshman Engineering Drafting class in 1970 was a
total revelation. But look where we are now! (My technique seeks renewal.)

ED / W2RF




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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On
Behalf Of Wayne Burdick
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2021 1:09 AM
To: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

OK, I've really dated myself now. 

Anyone remember "drafting"? A favorite class in high school: blueprints,
mechanical drawings, schematics, straight edges, hand lettering, projections
and elevations. We invented things to draw that weren't real, but looked
like they should be. Did all the math by hand -- on a slide rule, if
necessary. Day-dreamed about what we might one day build.

45 years later, we're using tools we couldn't have imagined. Modeling
circuits and objects with millions of parameters and vectors, realizing them
in virtual space, manipulating them in real time. Testing finished products
before they're even assembled.

The transformation is mind boggling. Yet the best part now, as it was then,
is the occasional burst of creative energy that propels an idea forward. The
feeling of pieces falling into place. Or forcing them into place out of
sheer necessity. 

Most of the time, we think of our new tools and techniques as advances in
the state of the art. Things we can't live without. But those same defining
moments happened just as often in simpler times.

Case in point -- my first real project, a rendition of W7ZOI's
Micro-mountaineer. Carefully documenting it took several sheets of
4-squares-per-inch grid paper, which may still be in my cellar, beneath a
lifetime of such drawings. With the schematic, I took a lot of pride in
making the circuits look well-organized, as if that would somehow improve my
odds. On the PC board, I drew large traces and pads with the etch-resist
pen, as if that would somehow appease the electrons. 

I etched the PCB, soldered two dozen parts, and connected a 12 V lantern
battery. Thanks to my paranoia about what would happen if I did it wrong,
I'd taken my time and done it right. 

I was rewarded with a hiss of band noise and a few CW signals on 40 meters.

Here's to those moments, and to that timeless pursuit: turning abstractions
into reality.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

[Clark Macaulay]

Oh, my, Wayne.  We must be of the same age--er vintage?  I still have  my
K drafting tools set and my K Log Log Duplex Decitrig slide rule
(mahogany don't you know).
Memories of eraser dust; velum; t-square; PC layout by hand; plastic symbol
templates.  I think it was then that I changed from cursive to block
lettering, never to look back until taking  up CW some 40 years later.

Unlike you, I never had the creative genius to think up something, build
it, and have it work.  BUT I do still enjoy, after all these years,
building something that somebody else designed and making it work.  Still
magic after all these years.

Any, yes, some of those designs I built and let out the magic gas were
yours.  I hope you will have the creative juice in you for some time to
come.  Maybe even another real kit (soldering, toroids) from Elecraft just
for fun.

Stay well, my friend,


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On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 1:10 AM Wayne Burdick  wrote:

> OK, I've really dated myself now.
>
> Anyone remember "drafting"? A favorite class in high school: blueprints,
> mechanical drawings, schematics, straight edges, hand lettering,
> projections and elevations. We invented things to draw that weren't real,
> but looked like they should be. Did all the math by hand -- on a slide
> rule, if necessary. Day-dreamed about what we might one day build.
>
> 45 years later, we're using tools we couldn't have imagined. Modeling
> circuits and objects with millions of parameters and vectors, realizing
> them in virtual space, manipulating them in real time. Testing finished
> products before they're even assembled.
>
> The transformation is mind boggling. Yet the best part now, as it was
> then, is the occasional burst of creative energy that propels an idea
> forward. The feeling of pieces falling into place. Or forcing them into
> place out of sheer necessity.
>
> Most of the time, we think of our new tools and techniques as advances in
> the state of the art. Things we can't live without. But those same defining
> moments happened just as often in simpler times.
>
> Case in point -- my first real project, a rendition of W7ZOI's
> Micro-mountaineer. Carefully documenting it took several sheets of
> 4-squares-per-inch grid paper, which may still be in my cellar, beneath a
> lifetime of such drawings. With the schematic, I took a lot of pride in
> making the circuits look well-organized, as if that would somehow improve
> my odds. On the PC board, I drew large traces and pads with the etch-resist
> pen, as if that would somehow appease the electrons.
>
> I etched the PCB, soldered two dozen parts, and connected a 12 V lantern
> battery. Thanks to my paranoia about what would happen if I did it wrong,
> I'd taken my time and done it right.
>
> I was rewarded with a hiss of band noise and a few CW signals on 40 meters.
>
> Here's to those moments, and to that timeless pursuit: turning
> abstractions into reality.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
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[Elecraft] Re Drafting

[Steve Fox]

I had drafting in junior high.  It, Like calculus, was a skill which I very 
much admired but failed to master.

Steve
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

[Louandzip via Elecraft]

 Yep, did the mechanical dwgs by hand and taped the artwork for the PCBs for 
the first few products I designed at a startup.  When I built my K2 in 00/01, I 
used a drafting table that had a drafting machine as a work bench and my first 
operating desk.  I had gotten it from work when they were ditching them and 
going totally digital.  I remember our new CAD workstations being a big deal 
because they had 80286 processors!

Lou W7HV

On Saturday, April 24, 2021, 3:13:48 PM MDT, David Thompson via Elecraft 
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 > On Apr 23, 2021, at 22:08, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> 
> Anyone remember "drafting"? A favorite class in high school: blueprints, 
> mechanical drawings, schematics, straight edges, hand lettering, projections 
> and elevations. We invented things to draw that weren't real, but looked like 
> they should be. Did all the math by hand -- on a slide rule, if necessary. 
> Day-dreamed about what we might one day build.


Afternoon sir (and the group),

I still have my Dietzgen drafting set from high school, circa 1970. That was 
the only drafting class that I ever had, but I made a living as a drafter and 
design technician for a number of years. I then supplemented my income while in 
college preparing camera-ready drawings for graduate students and faculty 
members at university.

My Koh-I-Nor technical pens are still in the case (in a box in the garage) 
along with a set of Leroy lettering templates, including Greek symbols. I can 
still run a Leroy bug.

That drafting class led me to a career in engineering. I still hand draw 
sketches for analytical work. Although it’s been a long time since I drew an 
isometric.

Fun stuff… thanks for making me remember… 

David Thompson, AG7TX
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

[David Thompson via Elecraft]

> On Apr 23, 2021, at 22:08, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> 
> Anyone remember "drafting"? A favorite class in high school: blueprints, 
> mechanical drawings, schematics, straight edges, hand lettering, projections 
> and elevations. We invented things to draw that weren't real, but looked like 
> they should be. Did all the math by hand -- on a slide rule, if necessary. 
> Day-dreamed about what we might one day build.


Afternoon sir (and the group),

I still have my Dietzgen drafting set from high school, circa 1970. That was 
the only drafting class that I ever had, but I made a living as a drafter and 
design technician for a number of years. I then supplemented my income while in 
college preparing camera-ready drawings for graduate students and faculty 
members at university.

My Koh-I-Nor technical pens are still in the case (in a box in the garage) 
along with a set of Leroy lettering templates, including Greek symbols. I can 
still run a Leroy bug.

That drafting class led me to a career in engineering. I still hand draw 
sketches for analytical work. Although it’s been a long time since I drew an 
isometric.

Fun stuff… thanks for making me remember… 

David Thompson, AG7TX
Jack of All Trades
Master of None
CWOps #2861
dbthomp...@me.com
ag...@arrl.net


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Re: [Elecraft] Speaker upgrade

[Don Wilhelm]

Since the K3 has stereo output, I suggest you look at the West Mountain 
Radio ComSpeakers.  They do a good job.
My K3 had 2 Radio Shack mini speakers on it, and the KX3 uses the 
ComSpeakers.  Great in all respects.


73,
Don W3FPR

The original poster asked about plugging in both the speakers and 
headphones into the rear jacks.
Yes - I leave the headphones live at all times and toggle the SPKR + 
PHONES menu to use the speakers - no plugging/unplugging.


73,
Don W3FPR
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

[Ken WA8JXM]

In 1967 I started work as a Draftsman Trainee in the Engineering Division
of P  My group leader told me "There is a timesharing computer terminal
(Teletype 33) down the hall that we are not using.  Find out if we can do
anything with it."  That started my progression to programming and
eventually microcomputer evaluation and support.  I retired in 2001.

BTW, we never did "pen and ink", pencil was used and then converted to
mylar drawings.  Items like paper machines (Charmin, Bounty) are done in
right and left pairs (mirror images).  The drawings were flipped over to
get the identical mirror images.  Printing was erased and redone in
readable form.

Ken WA8JXM

On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 2:05 PM Dave Fugleberg  wrote:

> Thanks for the memories Wayne! My High School drafting class was just a
> couple of years after yours, and I remember it fondly. Everything from
> drafting pencils (with lead of various sizes/hardness) to technical ink
> pens on vellum.  I enjoyed it so much that I persuaded the instructor to
> let me check out one of the old drafting machines for the summer break (I
> think it was a Universal).
>
> Just a few years later, in my first real job as an electronics technician,
> I was introduced to electronic schematic capture tools, specifically the
> Daisy Systems Logician and some Mentor Graphics systems. I spent hundreds
> of hours drawing and updating schematics for the EEs at that company. Those
> machines were over $100 grand each at the time, with 10MB hard drives.
> Then the wirelists went to automatic wirewrap machines, or later, to
> specialized board routing/layout machines that were even more expensive.
>
> Now we have free or cheap schematic capture software on PCs thousands of
> times more powerful for use as hobbyists.  Amazing. Yes, a lot has changed
> in less than 50 years.
>
> On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 12:10 AM Wayne Burdick  wrote:
>
> > OK, I've really dated myself now.
> >
> > Anyone remember "drafting"? A favorite class in high school: blueprints,
> > mechanical drawings, schematics, straight edges, hand lettering,
> > projections and elevations. We invented things to draw that weren't real,
> > but looked like they should be. Did all the math by hand -- on a slide
> > rule, if necessary. Day-dreamed about what we might one day build.
> >
> > 45 years later, we're using tools we couldn't have imagined. Modeling
> > circuits and objects with millions of parameters and vectors, realizing
> > them in virtual space, manipulating them in real time. Testing finished
> > products before they're even assembled.
> >
> > The transformation is mind boggling. Yet the best part now, as it was
> > then, is the occasional burst of creative energy that propels an idea
> > forward. The feeling of pieces falling into place. Or forcing them into
> > place out of sheer necessity.
> >
> > Most of the time, we think of our new tools and techniques as advances in
> > the state of the art. Things we can't live without. But those same
> defining
> > moments happened just as often in simpler times.
> >
> > Case in point -- my first real project, a rendition of W7ZOI's
> > Micro-mountaineer. Carefully documenting it took several sheets of
> > 4-squares-per-inch grid paper, which may still be in my cellar, beneath a
> > lifetime of such drawings. With the schematic, I took a lot of pride in
> > making the circuits look well-organized, as if that would somehow improve
> > my odds. On the PC board, I drew large traces and pads with the
> etch-resist
> > pen, as if that would somehow appease the electrons.
> >
> > I etched the PCB, soldered two dozen parts, and connected a 12 V lantern
> > battery. Thanks to my paranoia about what would happen if I did it wrong,
> > I'd taken my time and done it right.
> >
> > I was rewarded with a hiss of band noise and a few CW signals on 40
> meters.
> >
> > Here's to those moments, and to that timeless pursuit: turning
> > abstractions into reality.
> >
> > 73,
> > Wayne
> > N6KR
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

[Jim Brown]

On 4/24/2021 1:00 AM, Joe K2UF wrote:

In 1955 we were the cool guys with a slide rule in a leather case hanging
from your belt and india ink stains on your hands.


I don't remember Drafting in high school, but I do remember it, along 
with courses in Nomography graphical methods to compute equations) and 
the derivation of emperical equations from graphical data, both of which 
were taught with mechanical drawing in my freshman year of EE in '59-'60.


My slide rule NEVER hung from my belt.

73, Jim K9YC

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Re: [Elecraft] Speaker upgrade

[Jim Brown]

On 4/24/2021 8:50 AM, NJMike wrote:

Since I’m a new K3S owner and still learning the radio, can you also confirm
that those speakers can be hooked up while keeping the headphones plugged
into the rear jack?


You did study the K3S manual, didn't you?

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 eHam Review Updated

[Andrew Faber via Elecraft]

 Rick, and Bob, Thanks for the reviews.  I note that Rick started his off with 
a clever limerick. Here's another limerick in honor of both reviews: The K4 has 
been a long wait,
There's been lots of talk and debate.
  But its finally here,
  And the verdict is clear;
Reviewers say:"It's really great!" 

 73, Andy AE6Y 

On Saturday, April 24, 2021, 12:16:53 PM PDT, Rick Tavan  
wrote:  
 
 I've updated my K4 review on eham.net to correct a few errors and add a
section on User Interface. It should be available as soon as eHam vets the
new version to make sure I didn't include any politically incorrect words
or images. (I didn't.)  ;-)  And I bcc'ed a friend who is an eHam insider
and may be able to expedite that approval.

73,

/Rick N6XI

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[Elecraft] K4 eHam Review Updated

[Rick Tavan]

I've updated my K4 review on eham.net to correct a few errors and add a
section on User Interface. It should be available as soon as eHam vets the
new version to make sure I didn't include any politically incorrect words
or images. (I didn't.)  ;-)  And I bcc'ed a friend who is an eHam insider
and may be able to expedite that approval.

73,

/Rick N6XI

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Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

[Dave Fugleberg]

Thanks for the memories Wayne! My High School drafting class was just a
couple of years after yours, and I remember it fondly. Everything from
drafting pencils (with lead of various sizes/hardness) to technical ink
pens on vellum.  I enjoyed it so much that I persuaded the instructor to
let me check out one of the old drafting machines for the summer break (I
think it was a Universal).

Just a few years later, in my first real job as an electronics technician,
I was introduced to electronic schematic capture tools, specifically the
Daisy Systems Logician and some Mentor Graphics systems. I spent hundreds
of hours drawing and updating schematics for the EEs at that company. Those
machines were over $100 grand each at the time, with 10MB hard drives.
Then the wirelists went to automatic wirewrap machines, or later, to
specialized board routing/layout machines that were even more expensive.

Now we have free or cheap schematic capture software on PCs thousands of
times more powerful for use as hobbyists.  Amazing. Yes, a lot has changed
in less than 50 years.

On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 12:10 AM Wayne Burdick  wrote:

> OK, I've really dated myself now.
>
> Anyone remember "drafting"? A favorite class in high school: blueprints,
> mechanical drawings, schematics, straight edges, hand lettering,
> projections and elevations. We invented things to draw that weren't real,
> but looked like they should be. Did all the math by hand -- on a slide
> rule, if necessary. Day-dreamed about what we might one day build.
>
> 45 years later, we're using tools we couldn't have imagined. Modeling
> circuits and objects with millions of parameters and vectors, realizing
> them in virtual space, manipulating them in real time. Testing finished
> products before they're even assembled.
>
> The transformation is mind boggling. Yet the best part now, as it was
> then, is the occasional burst of creative energy that propels an idea
> forward. The feeling of pieces falling into place. Or forcing them into
> place out of sheer necessity.
>
> Most of the time, we think of our new tools and techniques as advances in
> the state of the art. Things we can't live without. But those same defining
> moments happened just as often in simpler times.
>
> Case in point -- my first real project, a rendition of W7ZOI's
> Micro-mountaineer. Carefully documenting it took several sheets of
> 4-squares-per-inch grid paper, which may still be in my cellar, beneath a
> lifetime of such drawings. With the schematic, I took a lot of pride in
> making the circuits look well-organized, as if that would somehow improve
> my odds. On the PC board, I drew large traces and pads with the etch-resist
> pen, as if that would somehow appease the electrons.
>
> I etched the PCB, soldered two dozen parts, and connected a 12 V lantern
> battery. Thanks to my paranoia about what would happen if I did it wrong,
> I'd taken my time and done it right.
>
> I was rewarded with a hiss of band noise and a few CW signals on 40 meters.
>
> Here's to those moments, and to that timeless pursuit: turning
> abstractions into reality.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

[MIKE ZANE]

Way back then in 1955, we only had Mechanical Drawing, no drafting. Mike
> On 04/24/2021 6:11 AM Barry  wrote:
> 
>  
> High school in 1975?  You're just a kid in ham circles, Wayne  :-)
> 
> Barry W2UP (HS class of '74)
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

[w2bvh]

I didn't get to do a drafting course until college. It was taught by the 
dean (guess any prof who had to get us to understand solid state 
physics  was "too good" to teach drafting).. I still fondly remember 
doing some sheet metal layout and having such an oddly shaped piece in 
the flat mapping so well to the intended shape in 3D. Didn't help at all 
with EE, but fun!


73 & stay safe
Lenny W2BVH.


On 4/24/2021 1:08 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

OK, I've really dated myself now.

Anyone remember "drafting"? A favorite class in high school: blueprints, 
mechanical drawings, schematics, straight edges, hand lettering, projections and 
elevations. We invented things to draw that weren't real, but looked like they should be. 
Did all the math by hand -- on a slide rule, if necessary. Day-dreamed about what we 
might one day build.

45 years later, we're using tools we couldn't have imagined. Modeling circuits 
and objects with millions of parameters and vectors, realizing them in virtual 
space, manipulating them in real time. Testing finished products before they're 
even assembled.

The transformation is mind boggling. Yet the best part now, as it was then, is 
the occasional burst of creative energy that propels an idea forward. The 
feeling of pieces falling into place. Or forcing them into place out of sheer 
necessity.

Most of the time, we think of our new tools and techniques as advances in the 
state of the art. Things we can't live without. But those same defining moments 
happened just as often in simpler times.

Case in point -- my first real project, a rendition of W7ZOI's 
Micro-mountaineer. Carefully documenting it took several sheets of 
4-squares-per-inch grid paper, which may still be in my cellar, beneath a 
lifetime of such drawings. With the schematic, I took a lot of pride in making 
the circuits look well-organized, as if that would somehow improve my odds. On 
the PC board, I drew large traces and pads with the etch-resist pen, as if that 
would somehow appease the electrons.

I etched the PCB, soldered two dozen parts, and connected a 12 V lantern 
battery. Thanks to my paranoia about what would happen if I did it wrong, I'd 
taken my time and done it right.

I was rewarded with a hiss of band noise and a few CW signals on 40 meters.

Here's to those moments, and to that timeless pursuit: turning abstractions 
into reality.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

[Jeff Stai]

Not offered in my HS as I recall in 1976 but in college one quarter of it
was required. I enjoyed it so much I took the second quarter.

My son who almost has his degree also recently took "drafting" courses, in
which they did an entire internal combustion engine including animating it
when it was done. Yike. 73 jeff wk6i

On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 10:11 PM Wayne Burdick  wrote:

> OK, I've really dated myself now.
>
> Anyone remember "drafting"? A favorite class in high school: blueprints,
> mechanical drawings, schematics, straight edges, hand lettering,
> projections and elevations. We invented things to draw that weren't real,
> but looked like they should be. Did all the math by hand -- on a slide
> rule, if necessary. Day-dreamed about what we might one day build.
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Speaker upgrade

[Don Wilhelm]

Yes, They call it ComSpkr and it is priced at $39.95.
It is a pair of "computer" speakers, but it is shielded so it does not 
buzz when RF is present.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/24/2021 11:50 AM, NJMike wrote:

Can you confirm the West Mountain ComSpeaker is
#58410-950?

Since I’m a new K3S owner and still learning the radio, can you also confirm
that those speakers can be hooked up while keeping the headphones plugged
into the rear jack?

I’m sure there must be a Config menu change also.

Thanks,
Mike NJ2OM



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Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

[Edward R Cole]

Wayne,

Thanks for sharing the memories.

I had been drawing things since a child, won a contest with a local 
radio show for my crayon drawings at age five.  By the time I was in 
college I was already good at that.  I got 1/2 point off one of my 
drawings in drafting class, otherwise got 100% (found out latter, I 
was top in drafting for my engineering class).


But I went into Electrical Engineering as a profession (where drawing 
skills helped with diagrams).


Many years later I married the chief drafts-person for ORECK 
Engineering.  She was doing 3-D models on a computer which provided 
files for their modeling machine to create scale models of 
prospective products from plastic.  She had been an artist in HS and 
chose drafting as her profession (instead of starving artist).  She 
handled the entire blueprint library, keeping eng. change records for 
the company.  Great organizational skills.  Those of you who 
subscribe to Dubus Magazine in NA know her for managing subscriptions 
(Janet Cole).


73, Ed - KL7UW
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Re: [Elecraft] Speaker upgrade

[Walter Underwood]

The COMspkr is amplified, which you don’t need with the K3.

I use the Pyle cubes with my KX3 (and a small audio amp). They are fine. 
Currently $28.28 on Amazon.

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B000MCGF1O/

Another option would be the old Radio Shack AV speakers with the cast aluminum 
cabinets. I have a
single Optimus PRO-X44AV for my Lowe HF-150, I should probable get a pair for 
the KX3. Similar 
speakers are the Optimus 77, the Minimus 7, and so on.

wunder
K6WRU
Walter Underwood
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)

> On Apr 24, 2021, at 8:50 AM, NJMike  wrote:
> 
> Can you confirm the West Mountain ComSpeaker is 
> #58410-950?
> 
> Since I’m a new K3S owner and still learning the radio, can you also confirm
> that those speakers can be hooked up while keeping the headphones plugged
> into the rear jack?
> 
> I’m sure there must be a Config menu change also. 
> 
> Thanks,
> Mike NJ2OM 
> 
> 
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[Elecraft] K3 Power Output issue

[n5xz]

My K3 s/n 2324 has developed a problem with its output power. It is very
non-linear especially between 12 and say about 50 watts. Output is low until
about there and I do not get full output on some bands, for example I can
only get about 35 watts now on 6m. I have attempted to do the TX Gain
Calibration but is always fails. Elecraft tech support has advised me to try
the "three finger test" to test the KLPA3. I may have access to the PA board
of another K3.wondering if I could just swap them out to determine if that
is where the problem is??

 

Allen R. Brier N5XZ

1515 Windloch Lane

Richmond, TX 77406

713-705-4801

 



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Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

[Michael Chowning]

Drafting, 1956-57.  For the first four weeks of class, Sr. Mary Joseph would 
not let us touch any drafting instruments until we each made, sanded, 
shellac’ed, to her satisfaction, our own drafting boards. Her rationale was 
that if we crafted our own boards, we would take better care of them.  She was 
right.  Due to the lack of a third year Latin class at my parochial high 
school, I took the Drafting class, which proved to be the most practical class 
I ever took, more so than the physics, chemistry and math.
 Mike, N8TTR

> On Apr 24, 2021, at 1:08 AM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> 
> OK, I've really dated myself now. 
> 
> Anyone remember "drafting"? A favorite class in high school: blueprints, 
> mechanical drawings, schematics, straight edges, hand lettering, projections 
> and elevations. We invented things to draw that weren't real, but looked like 
> they should be. Did all the math by hand -- on a slide rule, if necessary. 
> Day-dreamed about what we might one day build.
> 
> 45 years later, we're using tools we couldn't have imagined. Modeling 
> circuits and objects with millions of parameters and vectors, realizing them 
> in virtual space, manipulating them in real time. Testing finished products 
> before they're even assembled.
> 
> The transformation is mind boggling. Yet the best part now, as it was then, 
> is the occasional burst of creative energy that propels an idea forward. The 
> feeling of pieces falling into place. Or forcing them into place out of sheer 
> necessity. 
> 
> Most of the time, we think of our new tools and techniques as advances in the 
> state of the art. Things we can't live without. But those same defining 
> moments happened just as often in simpler times.
> 
> Case in point -- my first real project, a rendition of W7ZOI's 
> Micro-mountaineer. Carefully documenting it took several sheets of 
> 4-squares-per-inch grid paper, which may still be in my cellar, beneath a 
> lifetime of such drawings. With the schematic, I took a lot of pride in 
> making the circuits look well-organized, as if that would somehow improve my 
> odds. On the PC board, I drew large traces and pads with the etch-resist pen, 
> as if that would somehow appease the electrons. 
> 
> I etched the PCB, soldered two dozen parts, and connected a 12 V lantern 
> battery. Thanks to my paranoia about what would happen if I did it wrong, I'd 
> taken my time and done it right. 
> 
> I was rewarded with a hiss of band noise and a few CW signals on 40 meters.
> 
> Here's to those moments, and to that timeless pursuit: turning abstractions 
> into reality.
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
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[Elecraft] There is a new release of Win4K3Suite

[Tom]

Hello,
There is a new version of Win4K3Suite available.  This release has
additional support for a 4th transverter.
Win4K3Suite is a full featured control program for the K3/S, KX3 and KX2.
It has a built in Panadapter that works with LPPAN and a sound card, as well
as the SDRPlay RSP's. It supports the KAT500, KPA500/1500 and the KXPA100 on
most of the above radios.  
A unique feature is that is has 6 built in Virtual Radios, each of which
works just like an Elecraft radio.  This allows sharing of a single COM port
with up to 6 applications.  It also has a built in HRDLogbook server and the
EiBi Shortwave database.
There are many more features like full access to menu items, a cluster
display using your ClubLog credentials and many more.
You see more information here:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=win4k3suite
and download a fully functional 30 day trial at va2fsq.com

73 Tom
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

[Linda M]

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[Elecraft] K3S P3 for sale

[Tom]

From a local club email list server...

*Transceiver for sale*

I have the following transceiver and pan adaptor for sale which belonged 
to my friend Jim Forsman, K7BIE, who became a silent key on February 
20^th of this year:


(1)*Elecraft K3s HF Transceiver*, S/N 11182 with its manual and the 
following installed options:


Filter, 2.70 Khz

KAT3 antenna tuner

KIO3B USB control & sound card

KPA3 built in 100 watt amplifier

KXV3B I/O interface

Price: $2,200.00


(1)*Elecraft P3 Pan Adaptor *with all cables and manual

Price: $400.00


If both are purched together the price is $ 2,500


Plus $ 80 for insured shpping to the US and Canada


Any sale to outside the US and Canada will be buyers reponsibility for 
shipment


If interested; please contact Phil Van Huis by e-mail at k8...@arrl.net 



Phil, K8PVH

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Re: [Elecraft] Speaker upgrade

[NJMike]

Can you confirm the West Mountain ComSpeaker is 
#58410-950?

Since I’m a new K3S owner and still learning the radio, can you also confirm
that those speakers can be hooked up while keeping the headphones plugged
into the rear jack?

I’m sure there must be a Config menu change also. 

Thanks,
Mike NJ2OM 



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Re: [Elecraft] Speaker upgrade

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

Absolutely, I've used a pair with each of my K3(s) for several years.
They replaced larger "bookshelf" speakers with no loss in quality.
The little Pyle do not have the low end of the larger "bookshelf"
speakers, the spectrum below 200 Hz or so is not something that is
missed for "communications" audio.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 2021-04-24 10:14 AM, Buck wrote:
If you don't care for amplified speakers, the Pyle 3" Mini Cubes are 
excellent.  Less than $30 a pair online.


k4ia, Buck
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

[len]

Morning Wayne,

As a variation of a theme I understand exactly what you are saying
about tools.   At nearly the same time during the end of my my Junior days
and High School I designed my first computer using the freshly minted Intel
8008.  My only tools were an Eico 460, an Ohm meter, a LED, and my mind.
Back in those days there were very few technical resources that a teenager
had access to.  Even the library at the University of Utah had really
limited information.I grew up near there and spent many an hour walking
the shelves browsing topics.

Probably like many others on this list  today, in addition to Ham
Radio and many other hobbies, I still love tinkering with old computers and
electronics.  I type on a laptop that has more processing power, memory, and
storage space than existed in the world when I first started tinkering.
Ironically I just completed building a Mil Mod 8/80 replica.  The PCB's were
produced by another Ham in Canada, VA3NGC Charles Baetsen.  Even though I
have very powerful tools today, a multi trace scope, a sixteen channel logic
analyzer, it was still a challenging task.   To top off that project I
designed and built a 16k/64k RAM/ROM card.  The little system has both 8008
and 8080 plug cards and I want to run more extensive software than I could
have otherwise done in 2k of RAM.  I used KICAD for the PCB layout, a far
cry from laying out a PCB with tape and Mylar like I did in the 70's.

Even though the tools of  today are light years ahead of what we had
in our youth there is a single common denominator, the creativity of own
minds.   I don't believe we will EVER invent a more powerful tool than sits
on our shoulders.  Rare are those who have ever, and will ever, learn to
master its capabilities.

Thanks for the seed!

73

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2021 11:09 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

OK, I've really dated myself now. 

Anyone remember "drafting"? A favorite class in high school: blueprints,
mechanical drawings, schematics, straight edges, hand lettering, projections
and elevations. We invented things to draw that weren't real, but looked
like they should be. Did all the math by hand -- on a slide rule, if
necessary. Day-dreamed about what we might one day build.

45 years later, we're using tools we couldn't have imagined. Modeling
circuits and objects with millions of parameters and vectors, realizing them
in virtual space, manipulating them in real time. Testing finished products
before they're even assembled.

The transformation is mind boggling. Yet the best part now, as it was then,
is the occasional burst of creative energy that propels an idea forward. The
feeling of pieces falling into place. Or forcing them into place out of
sheer necessity. 

Most of the time, we think of our new tools and techniques as advances in
the state of the art. Things we can't live without. But those same defining
moments happened just as often in simpler times.

Case in point -- my first real project, a rendition of W7ZOI's
Micro-mountaineer. Carefully documenting it took several sheets of
4-squares-per-inch grid paper, which may still be in my cellar, beneath a
lifetime of such drawings. With the schematic, I took a lot of pride in
making the circuits look well-organized, as if that would somehow improve my
odds. On the PC board, I drew large traces and pads with the etch-resist
pen, as if that would somehow appease the electrons. 

I etched the PCB, soldered two dozen parts, and connected a 12 V lantern
battery. Thanks to my paranoia about what would happen if I did it wrong,
I'd taken my time and done it right. 

I was rewarded with a hiss of band noise and a few CW signals on 40 meters.

Here's to those moments, and to that timeless pursuit: turning abstractions
into reality.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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Re: [Elecraft] Speaker upgrade

[Buck]

If you don't care for amplified speakers, the Pyle 3" Mini Cubes are 
excellent.  Less than $30 a pair online.


k4ia, Buck
K3s# 11497
Honor Roll  8B DXCC
EasyWayHamBooks.com

On 4/23/2021 7:23 PM, Jim Sheldon wrote:

Don, you’re right on about those West Mountain Com Speakers.  I’ve had a pair 
on my K3S since day one and I wouldn’t trade them for anything.

My wife got me a second pair and I use them with my KX2 when I’m operating on 
my back deck.  Sure makes the KX2’s receiver sound super good.

Jim, W0EB

Sent from my iPad


On Apr 23, 2021, at 6:13 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:

Since the K3 has stereo output, I suggest you look at the West Mountain Radio 
ComSpeakers.  They do a good job.
My K3 had 2 Radio Shack mini speakers on it, and the KX3 uses the ComSpeakers.  
Great in all respects.

73,
Don W3FPR


On 4/23/2021 6:01 PM, Rick Bates, NK7I wrote:
Regardless of radio, my go to is the black Motorola mobile speakers (~5" 
square, with mounts).  Already shaped for communications audio (chopped lows, peaked 
mids and some highs) by design, they sound awesome on the K3 *once you find a 
matching output pair* (they can vary in output by several dB).  Estate sales, swap 
meets and radio shop closures are prime spots to find them; often $10 each (oh heck 
yeah, snag it and bag it!).

Also, if you find them, the old Radio Shack speaker cubes (about 2" cubed) have 
very clear communication audio and work great in a mobile environment.  Before RS 
went out of business the price was jacked up to about $60 (from $10) so swap meet 
prices may vary.

I (almost) never use any internal speaker since they are not usually more than 
a basic add on, or have to be cranked up so much to be useful that they don't 
last long (and are mono with dual receivers).

You might check to see what Elecraft offers for speakers to match your radio 
esthetics should your budget allow it.

73,
Rick NK7I



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Re: [Elecraft] Speaker upgrade

[NJMike]

Can you confirm the West Mountain ComSpeaker is 
#58410-950?

Since I’m a new K3S owner and still learning the radio, can you also confirm
that those speakers can be hooked up while keeping the headphones plugged
into the rear jack?

I’m sure there must be a Config menu change also. 

Thanks,
Mike NJ2OM 



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[Elecraft] KPA 1500 12V Fault

[John O'Mara]

Good morning,

 

Recently, my KPA 1500 developed a fault that now happens every time I turn
on the amp.  Using the remote SW the fault is reported as 12V Fault.
Hitting the reset button clears the fault and the amp runs fine.  What is
causing this fault and is there any way that this can be addressed without
sending the amp back to Elecraft?

 

Thanks for any help.

 

73, Jack W4NF

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Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

[Mike Short]

I recently broke out my Dietzgen Stellar drafting set. Using it to layout
features for my steam engine project.

On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 00:11 Wayne Burdick  wrote:

> OK, I've really dated myself now.
>
> Anyone remember "drafting"? A favorite class in high school: blueprints,
> mechanical drawings, schematics, straight edges, hand lettering,
> projections and elevations. We invented things to draw that weren't real,
> but looked like they should be. Did all the math by hand -- on a slide
> rule, if necessary. Day-dreamed about what we might one day build.
>
> 45 years later, we're using tools we couldn't have imagined. Modeling
> circuits and objects with millions of parameters and vectors, realizing
> them in virtual space, manipulating them in real time. Testing finished
> products before they're even assembled.
>
> The transformation is mind boggling. Yet the best part now, as it was
> then, is the occasional burst of creative energy that propels an idea
> forward. The feeling of pieces falling into place. Or forcing them into
> place out of sheer necessity.
>
> Most of the time, we think of our new tools and techniques as advances in
> the state of the art. Things we can't live without. But those same defining
> moments happened just as often in simpler times.
>
> Case in point -- my first real project, a rendition of W7ZOI's
> Micro-mountaineer. Carefully documenting it took several sheets of
> 4-squares-per-inch grid paper, which may still be in my cellar, beneath a
> lifetime of such drawings. With the schematic, I took a lot of pride in
> making the circuits look well-organized, as if that would somehow improve
> my odds. On the PC board, I drew large traces and pads with the etch-resist
> pen, as if that would somehow appease the electrons.
>
> I etched the PCB, soldered two dozen parts, and connected a 12 V lantern
> battery. Thanks to my paranoia about what would happen if I did it wrong,
> I'd taken my time and done it right.
>
> I was rewarded with a hiss of band noise and a few CW signals on 40 meters.
>
> Here's to those moments, and to that timeless pursuit: turning
> abstractions into reality.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
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[Elecraft] K3/KPA500 question

[Bob McGraw]

Check to see that the AUX cable is properly seated at the amp and at the 
the K3.   If you have the KAT500, check the control cable is connected 
as shown on page 5, Figure 1 in the KAT500 manual.


Always secure the plugs with the supplied connector screws.  Just 
plugging in the connector is and invitation for issues.


73

Bob, K4TAX


Message: 6
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2021 21:17:02 -0400
From: "Joe K2UF"
To:
Subject: [Elecraft] K3/KPA500 question
Message-ID:
Content-Type: text/plain;   charset="us-ascii"

I have my K3-KAT500-KPA500 working great.  The amp is off to the left side
and I can't see the display easily.  while working on building an auto
antenna switch  I noticed  that the band display on the amp does not synch
with the K3.  It seems to be random.  If I hit  one dit on the key  the amp
will synch the band with the K3.  I am not sure if this has been working
like this right along and just did not  notice.
 
Any ideas guys.
 
73 Joe K2UF



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Re: [Elecraft] Speaker upgrade

[ke9uw]

I bought a couple of 6X9 Jensen speakers with whizzer cones at Best Buy years
ago along with some rectangular fuzzy boxes that are designed to mount them.
These speakers used to be the ones that were the rear seat speaker in the GM
cars in the 60's. They sound great and I use them wired as stereo on the K3.
Turning the AFX on sounds great too.



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Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

[Barry]

High school in 1975?  You're just a kid in ham circles, Wayne  :-)

Barry W2UP (HS class of '74)



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Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

[Andy McMullin via Elecraft]

In the UK it was called “Technical Drawing” and was a compulsory pre-cursor to 
being allowed to take metalwork. You had to be able to convert between various 
projections and 3D representations before they let you loose on real metal in 
the workshops. Funnily enough, I seem to remember that woodwork and electronics 
were not included; but slide rules, “log tables”, and paper and pencil were the 
calculators of the age.

Regards
Andy, G8TQH

> 
> On Sat, Apr 24, 2021, 4:00 AM Joe K2UF  wrote:
> 
>> In 1955 we were the cool guys with a slide rule in a leather case hanging
>> from your belt and india ink stains on your hands.
>> 
>> 73  Joe K2UF
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
>> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick
>> Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2021 1:09 AM
>> To: Elecraft Reflector
>> Subject: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975
>> 
>> OK, I've really dated myself now.
>> 
>> Anyone remember "drafting"? A favorite class in high school: blueprints,
>> mechanical drawings, schematics, straight edges, hand lettering,
>> projections
>> and elevations. We invented things to draw that weren't real, but looked
>> like they should be. Did all the math by hand -- on a slide rule, if
>> necessary. Day-dreamed about what we might one day build.
>> 
>> 45 years later, we're using tools we couldn't have imagined. Modeling
>> circuits and objects with millions of parameters and vectors, realizing
>> them
>> in virtual space, manipulating them in real time. Testing finished products
>> before they're even assembled.
>> 
>> The transformation is mind boggling. Yet the best part now, as it was then,
>> is the occasional burst of creative energy that propels an idea forward.
>> The
>> feeling of pieces falling into place. Or forcing them into place out of
>> sheer necessity.
>> 
>> Most of the time, we think of our new tools and techniques as advances in
>> the state of the art. Things we can't live without. But those same defining
>> moments happened just as often in simpler times.
>> 
>> Case in point -- my first real project, a rendition of W7ZOI's
>> Micro-mountaineer. Carefully documenting it took several sheets of
>> 4-squares-per-inch grid paper, which may still be in my cellar, beneath a
>> lifetime of such drawings. With the schematic, I took a lot of pride in
>> making the circuits look well-organized, as if that would somehow improve
>> my
>> odds. On the PC board, I drew large traces and pads with the etch-resist
>> pen, as if that would somehow appease the electrons.
>> 
>> I etched the PCB, soldered two dozen parts, and connected a 12 V lantern
>> battery. Thanks to my paranoia about what would happen if I did it wrong,
>> I'd taken my time and done it right.
>> 
>> I was rewarded with a hiss of band noise and a few CW signals on 40 meters.
>> 
>> Here's to those moments, and to that timeless pursuit: turning abstractions
>> into reality.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>> 


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Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

[Dave Sublette]

My relationship with drafting class goes back to before I was born.   My
Dad, born in 1918, took drafting class in 1936. After he died, I found a
pen and ink drawing of his from that class. It was a schematic of two
different crystal sets.  As a teen, Dad was the neighborhood radio
technician. He strung wire antennas and repaired headphones for folks.

I had that schematic framed and built one of the sets.  I entered it in the
antiques section of the county fair(with a note that the radio was not the
antique).  I won a Blue Ribbon and was considered for the grand champion
ribbon.  I have the drawing and the set on my mantle.

At almost 80 years of age, my memories are increasing in value.

73,

Dave, K4TO

On Sat, Apr 24, 2021, 4:00 AM Joe K2UF  wrote:

> In 1955 we were the cool guys with a slide rule in a leather case hanging
> from your belt and india ink stains on your hands.
>
> 73  Joe K2UF
>
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick
> Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2021 1:09 AM
> To: Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975
>
> OK, I've really dated myself now.
>
> Anyone remember "drafting"? A favorite class in high school: blueprints,
> mechanical drawings, schematics, straight edges, hand lettering,
> projections
> and elevations. We invented things to draw that weren't real, but looked
> like they should be. Did all the math by hand -- on a slide rule, if
> necessary. Day-dreamed about what we might one day build.
>
> 45 years later, we're using tools we couldn't have imagined. Modeling
> circuits and objects with millions of parameters and vectors, realizing
> them
> in virtual space, manipulating them in real time. Testing finished products
> before they're even assembled.
>
> The transformation is mind boggling. Yet the best part now, as it was then,
> is the occasional burst of creative energy that propels an idea forward.
> The
> feeling of pieces falling into place. Or forcing them into place out of
> sheer necessity.
>
> Most of the time, we think of our new tools and techniques as advances in
> the state of the art. Things we can't live without. But those same defining
> moments happened just as often in simpler times.
>
> Case in point -- my first real project, a rendition of W7ZOI's
> Micro-mountaineer. Carefully documenting it took several sheets of
> 4-squares-per-inch grid paper, which may still be in my cellar, beneath a
> lifetime of such drawings. With the schematic, I took a lot of pride in
> making the circuits look well-organized, as if that would somehow improve
> my
> odds. On the PC board, I drew large traces and pads with the etch-resist
> pen, as if that would somehow appease the electrons.
>
> I etched the PCB, soldered two dozen parts, and connected a 12 V lantern
> battery. Thanks to my paranoia about what would happen if I did it wrong,
> I'd taken my time and done it right.
>
> I was rewarded with a hiss of band noise and a few CW signals on 40 meters.
>
> Here's to those moments, and to that timeless pursuit: turning abstractions
> into reality.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

[turnbull]

Wayne, Dave and all, Thank you for these stories and memories.    I fear you 
might get too many replies to these reminisces and Eric may need tell us to 
desist.73 Doug EI2CNSent from my Galaxy
 Original message From: David Wilcox via Elecraft 
 Date: 24/04/2021  11:20  (GMT+00:00) To: Joe K2UF 
 Cc: Elecraft Reflector  Subject: Re: 
[Elecraft] OT:  High school drafting class, ~1975 I took the classes but was 
never considered “COOL”... mostly a “NERD”.  Print shop too, but I knew I 
was going to college so they didn’t send me to the manual arts school down by 
the river. Still a “NERD” but happily so since 1960 and before really. I still 
break things so I can fix them.Wayne, Bless you, building a mountaineer.  I 
didn’t have the courage back then. But I made it through medical school.  My 
wife of 48 years thought I was “COOL” then but I think she might have changed 
her mind since then. Right after we were married I built an HW7 that went beep, 
beep, beep in the night.  It’s been downhill since then.Dave K8WPEDavid J. 
Wilcox’s iPad> On Apr 24, 2021, at 4:02 AM, Joe K2UF  wrote:> > 
In 1955 we were the cool guys with a slide rule in a leather case hanging> 
from your belt and india ink stains on your hands.> > 73  Joe K2UF > > 
-Original Message-> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net> 
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick> Sent: 
Saturday, April 24, 2021 1:09 AM> To: Elecraft Reflector> Subject: [Elecraft] 
OT: High school drafting class, ~1975> > OK, I've really dated myself now. > > 
Anyone remember "drafting"? A favorite class in high school: blueprints,> 
mechanical drawings, schematics, straight edges, hand lettering, projections> 
and elevations. We invented things to draw that weren't real, but looked> like 
they should be. Did all the math by hand -- on a slide rule, if> necessary. 
Day-dreamed about what we might one day build.> > 45 years later, we're using 
tools we couldn't have imagined. Modeling> circuits and objects with millions 
of parameters and vectors, realizing them> in virtual space, manipulating them 
in real time. Testing finished products> before they're even assembled.> > The 
transformation is mind boggling. Yet the best part now, as it was then,> is the 
occasional burst of creative energy that propels an idea forward. The> feeling 
of pieces falling into place. Or forcing them into place out of> sheer 
necessity. > > Most of the time, we think of our new tools and techniques as 
advances in> the state of the art. Things we can't live without. But those same 
defining> moments happened just as often in simpler times.> > Case in point -- 
my first real project, a rendition of W7ZOI's> Micro-mountaineer. Carefully 
documenting it took several sheets of> 4-squares-per-inch grid paper, which may 
still be in my cellar, beneath a> lifetime of such drawings. With the 
schematic, I took a lot of pride in> making the circuits look well-organized, 
as if that would somehow improve my> odds. On the PC board, I drew large traces 
and pads with the etch-resist> pen, as if that would somehow appease the 
electrons. > > I etched the PCB, soldered two dozen parts, and connected a 12 V 
lantern> battery. Thanks to my paranoia about what would happen if I did it 
wrong,> I'd taken my time and done it right. > > I was rewarded with a hiss of 
band noise and a few CW signals on 40 meters.> > Here's to those moments, and 
to that timeless pursuit: turning abstractions> into reality.> > 73,> Wayne> 
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

[David Wilcox via Elecraft]

I took the classes but was never considered “COOL”... mostly a “NERD”.  
Print shop too, but I knew I was going to college so they didn’t send me to the 
manual arts school down by the river. Still a “NERD” but happily so since 1960 
and before really. I still break things so I can fix them.

Wayne, Bless you, building a mountaineer.  I didn’t have the courage back then. 
But I made it through medical school.  My wife of 48 years thought I was “COOL” 
then but I think she might have changed her mind since then. Right after we 
were married I built an HW7 that went beep, beep, beep in the night.  It’s been 
downhill since then.

Dave K8WPE

David J. Wilcox’s iPad

> On Apr 24, 2021, at 4:02 AM, Joe K2UF  wrote:
> 
> In 1955 we were the cool guys with a slide rule in a leather case hanging
> from your belt and india ink stains on your hands.
> 
> 73  Joe K2UF 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick
> Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2021 1:09 AM
> To: Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975
> 
> OK, I've really dated myself now. 
> 
> Anyone remember "drafting"? A favorite class in high school: blueprints,
> mechanical drawings, schematics, straight edges, hand lettering, projections
> and elevations. We invented things to draw that weren't real, but looked
> like they should be. Did all the math by hand -- on a slide rule, if
> necessary. Day-dreamed about what we might one day build.
> 
> 45 years later, we're using tools we couldn't have imagined. Modeling
> circuits and objects with millions of parameters and vectors, realizing them
> in virtual space, manipulating them in real time. Testing finished products
> before they're even assembled.
> 
> The transformation is mind boggling. Yet the best part now, as it was then,
> is the occasional burst of creative energy that propels an idea forward. The
> feeling of pieces falling into place. Or forcing them into place out of
> sheer necessity. 
> 
> Most of the time, we think of our new tools and techniques as advances in
> the state of the art. Things we can't live without. But those same defining
> moments happened just as often in simpler times.
> 
> Case in point -- my first real project, a rendition of W7ZOI's
> Micro-mountaineer. Carefully documenting it took several sheets of
> 4-squares-per-inch grid paper, which may still be in my cellar, beneath a
> lifetime of such drawings. With the schematic, I took a lot of pride in
> making the circuits look well-organized, as if that would somehow improve my
> odds. On the PC board, I drew large traces and pads with the etch-resist
> pen, as if that would somehow appease the electrons. 
> 
> I etched the PCB, soldered two dozen parts, and connected a 12 V lantern
> battery. Thanks to my paranoia about what would happen if I did it wrong,
> I'd taken my time and done it right. 
> 
> I was rewarded with a hiss of band noise and a few CW signals on 40 meters.
> 
> Here's to those moments, and to that timeless pursuit: turning abstractions
> into reality.
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 RIT not working

[Christian Janssen DL1MGB]

Hi Henk,

nothing visible, but R79 was 700 Ohm instead of 10k. Found a THT 10kOhm and 
fortunately, there is enough space for this big resistor.

Now working like hell :-)

Many thanks!

73s Chris DL1MGB



Am 24.04.2021 um 10:48 schrieb h...@kpnplanet.nl:
> Hi Chris,
> 
> Check if R78 and R79 are still OK.
> If the encoder does not get voltage(s) via these resistors if will never
> work.
> 73 Henk
> PA0C
> 
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> Van: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
> Namens Christian Janssen DL1MGB
> Verzonden: zaterdag 24 april 2021 09:53
> Aan: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Onderwerp: Re: [Elecraft]   K3 RIT not working
> 
> 
> 
> Am 24.04.2021 um 09:52 schrieb Christian Janssen DL1MGB:
>> Hi Gernit,
>>
>> maybe I was a bit unclear. The RIT didn't work before I changed the
> encoder. And it still doesn't work after I replaced the encoder by a brand
> new one directly shipped from Elecraft.
>>
>> 73s Chris DL1MGB
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 24.04.2021 um 09:39 schrieb G:
>>> Hi Chris
>>> I had the same issue with the filter shift pot. I mailed elecraft support
> and they sent me a replacement part. Takes some effort to replace it but it
> is doable.
>>> 73 Gernit DF5RF
>>>
>>> --
>>> Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android Mobiltelefon mit GMX Mail
> gesendet.
>>> Am 24.04.21, 07:38 schrieb Christian Janssen DL1MGB :
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> after doing some refurbishing (changing rotten connectors,
> cleaning,...) I was curious if changing the RIT encoder will make the RIT
> work again. But it doesn't.
>>>
>>> K3 #1532
>>> Firmware 5.67
>>>
>>> I can press on the RIT and XIT button and it shows RIT and XIT in the
> display, the green LED below the CLR goes on. But when I turn the RIT knob,
> it stays at 0.00 and the frequency also doesn't change (also audibly). Also
> when both RIT and XIT are OFF and CONFIG:VFO CRS is ON, then no coarse with
> the RIT knob.
>>>
>>> Is there any hidden setting I missed? Or died just this RIT/XIT
> function on the board? I also couldn't see any broken lines or parts around
> the RIT encoder on the PCB.
>>>
>>> I am curious if there is easy help oout there.
>>>
>>> 73s Chris DL1MGB
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 RIT not working

[hdv]

Hi Chris,

Check if R78 and R79 are still OK.
If the encoder does not get voltage(s) via these resistors if will never
work.
73 Henk
PA0C

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
Namens Christian Janssen DL1MGB
Verzonden: zaterdag 24 april 2021 09:53
Aan: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Onderwerp: Re: [Elecraft]   K3 RIT not working



Am 24.04.2021 um 09:52 schrieb Christian Janssen DL1MGB:
> Hi Gernit,
> 
> maybe I was a bit unclear. The RIT didn't work before I changed the
encoder. And it still doesn't work after I replaced the encoder by a brand
new one directly shipped from Elecraft.
> 
> 73s Chris DL1MGB
> 
> 
> 
> Am 24.04.2021 um 09:39 schrieb G:
>> Hi Chris
>> I had the same issue with the filter shift pot. I mailed elecraft support
and they sent me a replacement part. Takes some effort to replace it but it
is doable.
>> 73 Gernit DF5RF
>>
>> --
>> Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android Mobiltelefon mit GMX Mail
gesendet.
>> Am 24.04.21, 07:38 schrieb Christian Janssen DL1MGB :
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> after doing some refurbishing (changing rotten connectors,
cleaning,...) I was curious if changing the RIT encoder will make the RIT
work again. But it doesn't.
>>
>> K3 #1532
>> Firmware 5.67
>>
>> I can press on the RIT and XIT button and it shows RIT and XIT in the
display, the green LED below the CLR goes on. But when I turn the RIT knob,
it stays at 0.00 and the frequency also doesn't change (also audibly). Also
when both RIT and XIT are OFF and CONFIG:VFO CRS is ON, then no coarse with
the RIT knob.
>>
>> Is there any hidden setting I missed? Or died just this RIT/XIT
function on the board? I also couldn't see any broken lines or parts around
the RIT encoder on the PCB.
>>
>> I am curious if there is easy help oout there.
>>
>> 73s Chris DL1MGB
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 RIT not working

[Harald Fritzsche]

Hello Christian, all,
According to the schematics, the encoder is directly connected to the MCU pins.
I would assume, there is a connector issue in between?
Can you check both lines between encoder and MCU, if possible?

Vy73 
Harald 
DD0VS 

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> Am 24.04.2021 um 09:52 schrieb Christian Janssen DL1MGB :
> 
> 
> 
>> Am 24.04.2021 um 09:52 schrieb Christian Janssen DL1MGB:
>> Hi Gernit,
>> 
>> maybe I was a bit unclear. The RIT didn't work before I changed the encoder. 
>> And it still doesn't work after I replaced the encoder by a brand new one 
>> directly shipped from Elecraft.
>> 
>> 73s Chris DL1MGB
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Am 24.04.2021 um 09:39 schrieb G:
>>> Hi Chris
>>> I had the same issue with the filter shift pot. I mailed elecraft support 
>>> and they sent me a replacement part. Takes some effort to replace it but it 
>>> is doable.
>>> 73 Gernit DF5RF
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android Mobiltelefon mit GMX Mail gesendet.
>>> Am 24.04.21, 07:38 schrieb Christian Janssen DL1MGB :
>>> 
>>>Hello,
>>> 
>>>after doing some refurbishing (changing rotten connectors, cleaning,...) 
>>> I was curious if changing the RIT encoder will make the RIT work again. But 
>>> it doesn't.
>>> 
>>>K3 #1532
>>>Firmware 5.67
>>> 
>>>I can press on the RIT and XIT button and it shows RIT and XIT in the 
>>> display, the green LED below the CLR goes on. But when I turn the RIT knob, 
>>> it stays at 0.00 and the frequency also doesn't change (also audibly). Also 
>>> when both RIT and XIT are OFF and CONFIG:VFO CRS is ON, then no coarse with 
>>> the RIT knob.
>>> 
>>>Is there any hidden setting I missed? Or died just this RIT/XIT function 
>>> on the board? I also couldn't see any broken lines or parts around the RIT 
>>> encoder on the PCB.
>>> 
>>>I am curious if there is easy help oout there.
>>> 
>>>73s Chris DL1MGB
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

[Joe K2UF]

In 1955 we were the cool guys with a slide rule in a leather case hanging
from your belt and india ink stains on your hands.

73  Joe K2UF 

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Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2021 1:09 AM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

OK, I've really dated myself now. 

Anyone remember "drafting"? A favorite class in high school: blueprints,
mechanical drawings, schematics, straight edges, hand lettering, projections
and elevations. We invented things to draw that weren't real, but looked
like they should be. Did all the math by hand -- on a slide rule, if
necessary. Day-dreamed about what we might one day build.

45 years later, we're using tools we couldn't have imagined. Modeling
circuits and objects with millions of parameters and vectors, realizing them
in virtual space, manipulating them in real time. Testing finished products
before they're even assembled.

The transformation is mind boggling. Yet the best part now, as it was then,
is the occasional burst of creative energy that propels an idea forward. The
feeling of pieces falling into place. Or forcing them into place out of
sheer necessity. 

Most of the time, we think of our new tools and techniques as advances in
the state of the art. Things we can't live without. But those same defining
moments happened just as often in simpler times.

Case in point -- my first real project, a rendition of W7ZOI's
Micro-mountaineer. Carefully documenting it took several sheets of
4-squares-per-inch grid paper, which may still be in my cellar, beneath a
lifetime of such drawings. With the schematic, I took a lot of pride in
making the circuits look well-organized, as if that would somehow improve my
odds. On the PC board, I drew large traces and pads with the etch-resist
pen, as if that would somehow appease the electrons. 

I etched the PCB, soldered two dozen parts, and connected a 12 V lantern
battery. Thanks to my paranoia about what would happen if I did it wrong,
I'd taken my time and done it right. 

I was rewarded with a hiss of band noise and a few CW signals on 40 meters.

Here's to those moments, and to that timeless pursuit: turning abstractions
into reality.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 RIT not working

[Christian Janssen DL1MGB]

Am 24.04.2021 um 09:52 schrieb Christian Janssen DL1MGB:
> Hi Gernit,
> 
> maybe I was a bit unclear. The RIT didn't work before I changed the encoder. 
> And it still doesn't work after I replaced the encoder by a brand new one 
> directly shipped from Elecraft.
> 
> 73s Chris DL1MGB
> 
> 
> 
> Am 24.04.2021 um 09:39 schrieb G:
>> Hi Chris
>> I had the same issue with the filter shift pot. I mailed elecraft support 
>> and they sent me a replacement part. Takes some effort to replace it but it 
>> is doable.
>> 73 Gernit DF5RF
>>
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>> Am 24.04.21, 07:38 schrieb Christian Janssen DL1MGB :
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> after doing some refurbishing (changing rotten connectors, cleaning,...) 
>> I was curious if changing the RIT encoder will make the RIT work again. But 
>> it doesn't.
>>
>> K3 #1532
>> Firmware 5.67
>>
>> I can press on the RIT and XIT button and it shows RIT and XIT in the 
>> display, the green LED below the CLR goes on. But when I turn the RIT knob, 
>> it stays at 0.00 and the frequency also doesn't change (also audibly). Also 
>> when both RIT and XIT are OFF and CONFIG:VFO CRS is ON, then no coarse with 
>> the RIT knob.
>>
>> Is there any hidden setting I missed? Or died just this RIT/XIT function 
>> on the board? I also couldn't see any broken lines or parts around the RIT 
>> encoder on the PCB.
>>
>> I am curious if there is easy help oout there.
>>
>> 73s Chris DL1MGB
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 RIT not working

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Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

[Mike Morrow]

I learned draftmanship in high school indusrial arts beginning in 1966.  I was 
good enough ar it that I was asked in my senior year to do detailed 
construction drawings for the annual project of the machine shop, even though I 
had transferred to a so-called college preparatory curriculum a couple of years 
earlier.  In actuality those high school drafting skills prepared me completely 
for the year of drafting courses that was mandatory at Geogia Tech in 1970.  
I'd finish a lab drafting session in less than 45 minutes while my buddies 
needed the full three hours.  In those pre-calculator pre-computer days the 
only tools that an undergrad student needed were a good slide rule (mine cost 
$36 in 1969, about $260 today) and a drafting set.  To use the Univac 1108 
campus scientific mainframe for Fortran IV programs, we submitted hollerith 
cards we punched using IBM 026 and 029 card punches.

I scraped and saved my summertime active duty pay to buy a Bomar 901 
four-function calculator in 1972 for $150, about $950 today.  Hewlett-Packard 
had introduced their milestone HP-35 scientific calculator that year for $400, 
about $2535 today.  Extremely few students could afford that.

What a wonder something like a KX2 would have been.  I had a station I made 
from a 1950s Multi-Elmac AF-67 mobile AM/CW transmitter and a surplus ARR-15 
receiver to get on 6970 kHz CW nets in the Navy-Marine Corps Military Affiliate 
Radio System, using a random wire antenna and a radiator ground.  Boy, could I 
tear up nearby stereos on several floors of Smith Dormitory.

Those really were the good ol' days...just barely a mere 50 years ago.  :-)

Mike / KK5F

-Original Message-
>From: Wayne Burdick 
>Sent: Apr 24, 2021 12:08 AM
>
> OK, I've really dated myself now. 
>
> Anyone remember "drafting"? A favorite class in high school:
> blueprints, mechanical drawings, schematics, straight edges,
> hand lettering, projections and elevations.
>
> Wayne
> N6KR
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