[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement
Good Evening, Dry, powder snow fell throughout the week. Today it got sunny so most of it fell from the trees. There is still about two feet left with another few feet on the way. Depending upon the temperature I may need to shovel the roof. If I have a lot of snow when it starts raining it gets heavy, very fast. The sun has been active this week. At least two RF blackouts thus far. A stream of solar wind is due on the 27th. That may affect the forty meter net. Flux is not has high as last week but it is OK. Sunset is changing quickly so forty meters will take a dive at some point during the net. Earlier is better. Please join us on (or near) : 14050 kHz at 2300z Sunday (3 PM PST Sunday) 7047 kHz at 0100z Monday (5 PM PST Sunday) 73, Kevin. KD5ONS - "Microcosmic God" by Ted Sturgeon in C++ :) unsigned int crossover(Gene g1, Gene g2) { unsigned int Msequence = g1.getSequence(); // ma gene sequence unsigned int Psequence = g2.getSequence(); // pa gene sequence int i = rand() % g1.getLength(); // determine point in genes for crossover Msequence >>= i; Msequence <<= i; Psequence <<= 32 - i; // if I use 30 instead of 32 I can use those Psequence >>= 32 - i; // two bits as a permanent marker for special // chromosomes return Msequence | Psequence; } Plant(int x, int y, int energy=10, int age=1) : Organism(x, y, energy, age) { unsigned int seq = rand() % 8; // pollination seq <<= 3; seq |= rand() % 8; // poison probability seq <<= 3; seq |= rand() % 8; // spines int len = 9; // 9 bits m_plant = Gene(seq, len); } Herbivore(int x, int y, int energy=50, int age=1) : Animal(x, y, energy, age) { unsigned int seq = rand() % 16; // run probability 4 bits (0-15) seq <<= 4; seq |= rand() % 16; // hide probability 4 bits (0-15) seq <<= 4; seq |= rand() % 16; // fight probability 4 bits (0-15) seq <<= 4; seq |= rand() % 16; // camouflage 4 bits (0-15) [quality of hiding] seq <<= 4; seq |= rand() % 16; // ability to eat marginal food probability int len = 20; // 20 bits m_tactics = Gene(seq, len); } Carnivore(int x, int y, int energy=10, int age=1) : Animal(x, y, energy, age) { unsigned int seq = rand() % 16; // attack probability 4 bits (0-15) seq <<= 4; seq |= rand() % 16; // rest probability 4 bits (0-15) seq <<= 4; seq |= rand() % 16; // hide probability 4 bits (0-15) seq <<= 4; seq |= rand() % 16; // camouflage 4 bits (0-15) [quality of hiding] seq <<= 4; seq |= rand() % 16; // attack range 4 bits (0-15) seq <<= 4; seq |= rand() % 16; // pursuit time 4 bits (0-15) int len = 24; // 24 bits m_tactics = Gene(seq, len); } __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] RS232/ U1/ failure
Hello Geert., See that LT1039 ACN, has different pins'' lay out'' than SN75...Looks for me that LT1039 is for socket installation? 73'Viggo LA9NEA Den 25.02.2023 16:23, skrev Geert Jan de Groot: > On 24/02/2023 21:46, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote: > >> When the K3 is in cold room ( below 5 degrees S) my K3/0 go in TERM >> mode. >> Hints say ''replace'' the U1 on the main KIO3 board.. >> Is the U1 SN75C1406 ( G4) ? Or can I use similar SN75 ? >> Removed the top cover,and checked voltage , at gold plated test-point >> close to the upper edge >> of the main board +5.0 vdc. In the lower end of the SN75, test point at >> the left side,seen from the front,, >> start with approx + 0.35 vdc, and drops slowly to approx -0.50 vdc in 4 >> to 5 minutes >> My K3 need ''warm up'' also for connecting via PC to K3 utility > > Looking at the schematics, I remember that Elecraft, in history, has used a > number of different "logic to RS232 converter" chips. I think these changed > as devices became obsolete, > > Both the SN75C1406 you mention in your other mail as well as the LT1039 that > is in the K3 schematics (K3, not K3s) use a positive and a negative voltage. > I would suggest checking the VCC8A voltage on your KIO3 board on pin 1 of > your driver chip. > > For the negative voltage required, at least on the K3 schematics, there is an > AF oscillator ("approx 1 kHz") and a FET and some diodes to create a charge > pump to create the negative voltage. I would suggest checking the voltage > (seems to be pin 9 for both devices) and I would expect around -10V or so. > > Given that "the problem solves when the radio warms up" my suspicion would be > in the negative voltage generator. Specifically, check the electrolyt > capacitors used in the charge pump. > > I am a but surprised to see the SN75C1406 reported in your board, because the > LT1039 (listed in the K3 schematics) still has production status and seems to > be on-stock with Mouser. I did *not* fully verify that these chips are > interchangeable but I suspect a power supply problem (sketched above) rather > than a broken driver, since broken driver chips do not tend to repair > themselves with temperature. > > 73, > > Geert Jan PE1HZG __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] RS232/ U1/ failure
Hello Geert ! Many thanks for your reply and info, Checked the voltage on U1: SN75.. pin 1: + 13.2 vdc, pin 8 : - 2.54 vdc, pin 9:GND, pin 16: + 5 vdc. Voltage on pin 8 is to low, - 7 vdc is the correct voltage if all ok... If I can get a new U1 I will change it My rig has serial number 2185,( buyed used from Netherland) :-)),,, I looked at the chematic of K3 from 2010, and it is LT1039ACN.on U1. So will try to find a new U1 replacment, try that first. 73' Viggo LA9NEA Den 25.02.2023 16:23, skrev Geert Jan de Groot: > On 24/02/2023 21:46, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote: > >> When the K3 is in cold room ( below 5 degrees S) my K3/0 go in TERM >> mode. >> Hints say ''replace'' the U1 on the main KIO3 board.. >> Is the U1 SN75C1406 ( G4) ? Or can I use similar SN75 ? >> Removed the top cover,and checked voltage , at gold plated test-point >> close to the upper edge >> of the main board +5.0 vdc. In the lower end of the SN75, test point at >> the left side,seen from the front,, >> start with approx + 0.35 vdc, and drops slowly to approx -0.50 vdc in 4 >> to 5 minutes >> My K3 need ''warm up'' also for connecting via PC to K3 utility > > Looking at the schematics, I remember that Elecraft, in history, has used a > number of different "logic to RS232 converter" chips. I think these changed > as devices became obsolete, > > Both the SN75C1406 you mention in your other mail as well as the LT1039 that > is in the K3 schematics (K3, not K3s) use a positive and a negative voltage. > I would suggest checking the VCC8A voltage on your KIO3 board on pin 1 of > your driver chip. > > For the negative voltage required, at least on the K3 schematics, there is an > AF oscillator ("approx 1 kHz") and a FET and some diodes to create a charge > pump to create the negative voltage. I would suggest checking the voltage > (seems to be pin 9 for both devices) and I would expect around -10V or so. > > Given that "the problem solves when the radio warms up" my suspicion would be > in the negative voltage generator. Specifically, check the electrolyt > capacitors used in the charge pump. > > I am a but surprised to see the SN75C1406 reported in your board, because the > LT1039 (listed in the K3 schematics) still has production status and seems to > be on-stock with Mouser. I did *not* fully verify that these chips are > interchangeable but I suspect a power supply problem (sketched above) rather > than a broken driver, since broken driver chips do not tend to repair > themselves with temperature. > > 73, > > Geert Jan PE1HZG __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] RS232/ U1/ failure
The ‘1406 is a rather ubiquitous chip - we use it many places in several package styles. It started out life as the Motorola MC141406, and was picked up by many other manufacturers. You should be able to find a proper substitute from many manufacturers in the package style you need in the KIO3. I note that both Mouser and Digikey have an ample stock of the TI SN75C1406 at this time. 73, Jack, W6FB > On Feb 25, 2023, at 9:23 AM, Geert Jan de Groot wrote: > > On 24/02/2023 21:46, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote: > >> When the K3 is in cold room ( below 5 degrees S) my K3/0 go in TERM >> mode. >> Hints say ''replace'' the U1 on the main KIO3 board.. >> Is the U1 SN75C1406 ( G4) ? Or can I use similar SN75 ? >> Removed the top cover,and checked voltage , at gold plated test-point >> close to the upper edge >> of the main board +5.0 vdc. In the lower end of the SN75, test point at >> the left side,seen from the front,, >> start with approx + 0.35 vdc, and drops slowly to approx -0.50 vdc in 4 >> to 5 minutes >> My K3 need ''warm up'' also for connecting via PC to K3 utility > > Looking at the schematics, I remember that Elecraft, in history, has used a > number of different "logic to RS232 converter" chips. I think these changed > as devices became obsolete, > > Both the SN75C1406 you mention in your other mail as well as the LT1039 that > is in the K3 schematics (K3, not K3s) use a positive and a negative voltage. > I would suggest checking the VCC8A voltage on your KIO3 board on pin 1 of > your driver chip. > > For the negative voltage required, at least on the K3 schematics, there is an > AF oscillator ("approx 1 kHz") and a FET and some diodes to create a charge > pump to create the negative voltage. I would suggest checking the voltage > (seems to be pin 9 for both devices) and I would expect around -10V or so. > > Given that "the problem solves when the radio warms up" my suspicion would be > in the negative voltage generator. Specifically, check the electrolyt > capacitors used in the charge pump. > > I am a but surprised to see the SN75C1406 reported in your board, because the > LT1039 (listed in the K3 schematics) still has production status and seems to > be on-stock with Mouser. I did *not* fully verify that these chips are > interchangeable but I suspect a power supply problem (sketched above) rather > than a broken driver, since broken driver chips do not tend to repair > themselves with temperature. > > 73, > > Geert Jan PE1HZG > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to jackbrin...@me.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] RS232/ U1/ failure
On 24/02/2023 21:46, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote: When the K3 is in cold room ( below 5 degrees S) my K3/0 go in TERM mode. Hints say ''replace'' the U1 on the main KIO3 board.. Is the U1 SN75C1406 ( G4) ? Or can I use similar SN75 ? Removed the top cover,and checked voltage , at gold plated test-point close to the upper edge of the main board +5.0 vdc. In the lower end of the SN75, test point at the left side,seen from the front,, start with approx + 0.35 vdc, and drops slowly to approx -0.50 vdc in 4 to 5 minutes My K3 need ''warm up'' also for connecting via PC to K3 utility Looking at the schematics, I remember that Elecraft, in history, has used a number of different "logic to RS232 converter" chips. I think these changed as devices became obsolete, Both the SN75C1406 you mention in your other mail as well as the LT1039 that is in the K3 schematics (K3, not K3s) use a positive and a negative voltage. I would suggest checking the VCC8A voltage on your KIO3 board on pin 1 of your driver chip. For the negative voltage required, at least on the K3 schematics, there is an AF oscillator ("approx 1 kHz") and a FET and some diodes to create a charge pump to create the negative voltage. I would suggest checking the voltage (seems to be pin 9 for both devices) and I would expect around -10V or so. Given that "the problem solves when the radio warms up" my suspicion would be in the negative voltage generator. Specifically, check the electrolyt capacitors used in the charge pump. I am a but surprised to see the SN75C1406 reported in your board, because the LT1039 (listed in the K3 schematics) still has production status and seems to be on-stock with Mouser. I did *not* fully verify that these chips are interchangeable but I suspect a power supply problem (sketched above) rather than a broken driver, since broken driver chips do not tend to repair themselves with temperature. 73, Geert Jan PE1HZG __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com