Re: [Elecraft] (OT) Ca Fires
Wayne has described the issues with susceptibleness to wildfire, well. In the last 100 years (or so) wildfire has been suppressed by man thus providing an increase in "fuel" growth. Only in the last few years have forest scientist and managers modified this to allow natural fire to correct the issue. BTW this betters the environment providing food for many species. So even hunters are realizing the benefit. The cited paper should give one a good perspective on this topic though it left out the spruce bark beetle invasion in Alaska. Wild fire is a normal occurrence up here. This summer a 160,000 acre fire burned about 50-miles east of me and closed traffic on the only road from the Kenai Peninsula to Anchorage with huge impact on truck traffic and tourists. It also burned the high voltage intertie from Bradley Lake Dam to regions in Anchorage and north which supplies that low price power for a significant part of AK. Fortunately most of the burned area was Nat'l forest with little human occupancy (unlike the situation in CA). We've improved the fire situation around our home quite a lot by taking down trees close to the house and converting brush land to lawn. We have just under 2 acres which is backed by wild forest land to the south. FD even took out about five tall spruce along the road right-of-way for free. My wife used to live in Simi Valley so well aware of the area impacted in SoCal. I lived on the beach, valley, desert, and foothill area of LA (long ago). 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com Dubus-NA Business mail: dubus...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] (OT) Ca Fires
There are at least three factors making fires both more intense and more frequent in recent years: 1. Our power companies (including PG) have not been diligent about clearing trees away from residential and HV lines. In my own neighborhood I've spotted many houses with power feeds that are intertwined with tree branches. When I do, I alert the home owners to the existence of a hotline for PG trimming service. 2. Due to either negligence or budget problems, they're not replacing old equipment fast enough. Like gas infrastructure, there are transmission towers and poles 50 to 100 years old in active service. 3. Trees in California (and in the west, generally) have seen rapid increases in die-offs due to extended drought, as well as bark beetles, sudden oak death (SOD) and other infections. I travel around California often, and everywhere I go I see patches of brown, dead trees in what used to be pristine forest. Historically, bark beetle larvae were suppressed by winter freezes. But average temperatures have been steadily rising. (First-hand experience: When we moved to Belmont 25 years ago, we used to have a couple of days every winter with lows below 30 degrees. Over the past three years the lowest I've seen was 39.) As far as trees are concerned, it only takes a couple of degrees to shift the balance. The larvae now survive most winters and reproduce furiously, eating everything in sight. They're also able to migrate to higher elevations, getting into more stands of trees. Information on this phenomenon abounds, but one particularly good summary, from Yale, can be found here: https://e360.yale.edu/features/small-pests-big-problems-the-global-spread-of-bark-beetles Of course we're used to disasters both man-made and natural in CA, and still we persist :) Wayne N6KR > On Nov 4, 2019, at 8:20 AM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT > wrote: > > All public companies operate to benefit the investors/shareholders. > > That means balancing dividends and profits against things that may impact > their bottom line like destroying customer assets and legal threats. > > SCE is no different, but they went more toward safety as a way to maximize > shareholder value. Safe, happy customers with homes and assets pay their > bills better than dead or burned-out ones. > > 73 -- Lynn > > On 11/3/2019 5:12 PM, Wes wrote: >> I'm shocked to hear that PG would actually think to pay dividends to >> investors who put their money at risk. The government of CA should put a >> stop to this capitalist idea. and turn the management over to the MVD or the >> bullet train people. >> Wes N7WS > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] (OT) Ca Fires
All public companies operate to benefit the investors/shareholders. That means balancing dividends and profits against things that may impact their bottom line like destroying customer assets and legal threats. SCE is no different, but they went more toward safety as a way to maximize shareholder value. Safe, happy customers with homes and assets pay their bills better than dead or burned-out ones. 73 -- Lynn On 11/3/2019 5:12 PM, Wes wrote: I'm shocked to hear that PG would actually think to pay dividends to investors who put their money at risk. The government of CA should put a stop to this capitalist idea. and turn the management over to the MVD or the bullet train people. Wes N7WS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] (OT) Ca Fires
I run a 12 volt Solar system, 4 100 watt panels hooked up to 4 6 volt Golf Cart batteries. I have 12 volt LED lights (look like a regular lightbulb) all over the QTH, run router, wifi, phone, shack all without an inverter. If you end up losing the things in your fridge we’re talking what, $100, so what. We’re in Maine so we have wood burning stove in the basement you can even cook with if need be. Loose power all the time, no big deal... 73 from Ecuador where we’re on holiday w/my HF radio... Jose Douglas KB1TCD (HC2/KB1TCD) Sent from my iPad > On Nov 3, 2019, at 11:53 AM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT > wrote: > > Yes, Jim, I do realize that a lot of the problem is PG making poor choices > to benefit investors and not provide safe power. They do the same with > natural gas. > > SCE is better, but they're hardening their grid, fixing the problems you > mentioned, and we've had lots of maintenance outages to replace poles. > > You mention generators, and that makes my point: > > The problem is manageable. A small generator can solve a lot of problems at > a fairly low cost. > > I don't need much power for lighting, and have a number of battery powered > camping lamps that work great. Candles too. > > My internet connection and servers are mission critical to me, but that's 80 > watts total. > > If it's below freezing, I want to be able to run the furnace at least part > time. > > My refrigerator and freezer are important, but not critical. > > I can get by with about 2kw. I think the Ryobi 2300 I have was $600. > > I can go a couple of hours without power easily before I need to start > thinking about the generator. > > Siphoning gas from the cars works -- and has been tested, new cars are harder > to tap for gas. > > 73 -- Lynn > >> On 11/3/2019 12:04 AM, Jim Brown wrote: >> As to Elecraft - many of their employees live in areas that WERE affected by >> the power shutoffs. Some are my neighbors. Our generators have gotten a lot >> of running time in the past week or so. > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kb1...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] (OT) Ca Fires
Except in LA and Ventura there is not any forest, just brush and homes. Sent from my iPad > On Nov 3, 2019, at 8:48 PM, Steve Boles wrote: > > Our son, who lives in Spokane Washington, is a wild land forest fire > fighter. He's on stand-by but has not yet been deployed to California this > time around. He has all sorts of stories he can tell about the lack of > forest management and the consequences of... > Steve > ARS: WB4SED > >> On Sun, Nov 3, 2019 at 8:14 PM Wes wrote: >> >> I'm shocked to hear that PG would actually think to pay dividends to >> investors >> who put their money at risk. The government of CA should put a stop to >> this >> capitalist idea. and turn the management over to the MVD or the bullet >> train people. >> >> Wes N7WS >> >>> On 11/3/2019 12:04 AM, Jim Brown wrote: >>> On 11/2/2019 7:05 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote: The power situation (especially in PG territory) is a different >> story, but one that's manageable. >>> >>> Really? You do realize that PG's distribution system has been badly >>> neglected for decades, and has long been an accident ready to happen. >> And most >>> of it is bare copper, making it more likely to start a fire. All because >>> management CHOSE not to maintain it, instead paying themselves big >> salaries >>> and bonuses, paying dividends to investors, and buying back stock. The >> result >>> is that correcting the problem requires a MASSIVE investment and a >> massive >>> amount of work that will takes decades to complete, and years to even >> begin! >>> >>> As to Elecraft - many of their employees live in areas that WERE >> affected by >>> the power shutoffs. Some are my neighbors. Our generators have gotten a >> lot of >>> running time in the past week or so. >>> >>> 73, Jim K9YC >> >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to dr3...@gmail.com > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w...@w2xj.net > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] (OT) Ca Fires
Our son, who lives in Spokane Washington, is a wild land forest fire fighter. He's on stand-by but has not yet been deployed to California this time around. He has all sorts of stories he can tell about the lack of forest management and the consequences of... Steve ARS: WB4SED On Sun, Nov 3, 2019 at 8:14 PM Wes wrote: > I'm shocked to hear that PG would actually think to pay dividends to > investors > who put their money at risk. The government of CA should put a stop to > this > capitalist idea. and turn the management over to the MVD or the bullet > train people. > > Wes N7WS > > On 11/3/2019 12:04 AM, Jim Brown wrote: > > On 11/2/2019 7:05 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote: > >> The power situation (especially in PG territory) is a different > story, but > >> one that's manageable. > > > > Really? You do realize that PG's distribution system has been badly > > neglected for decades, and has long been an accident ready to happen. > And most > > of it is bare copper, making it more likely to start a fire. All because > > management CHOSE not to maintain it, instead paying themselves big > salaries > > and bonuses, paying dividends to investors, and buying back stock. The > result > > is that correcting the problem requires a MASSIVE investment and a > massive > > amount of work that will takes decades to complete, and years to even > begin! > > > > As to Elecraft - many of their employees live in areas that WERE > affected by > > the power shutoffs. Some are my neighbors. Our generators have gotten a > lot of > > running time in the past week or so. > > > > 73, Jim K9YC > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to dr3...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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I'm shocked to hear that PG would actually think to pay dividends to investors who put their money at risk. The government of CA should put a stop to this capitalist idea. and turn the management over to the MVD or the bullet train people. Wes N7WS On 11/3/2019 12:04 AM, Jim Brown wrote: On 11/2/2019 7:05 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote: The power situation (especially in PG territory) is a different story, but one that's manageable. Really? You do realize that PG's distribution system has been badly neglected for decades, and has long been an accident ready to happen. And most of it is bare copper, making it more likely to start a fire. All because management CHOSE not to maintain it, instead paying themselves big salaries and bonuses, paying dividends to investors, and buying back stock. The result is that correcting the problem requires a MASSIVE investment and a massive amount of work that will takes decades to complete, and years to even begin! As to Elecraft - many of their employees live in areas that WERE affected by the power shutoffs. Some are my neighbors. Our generators have gotten a lot of running time in the past week or so. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] (OT) Ca Fires
Yes, Jim, I do realize that a lot of the problem is PG making poor choices to benefit investors and not provide safe power. They do the same with natural gas. SCE is better, but they're hardening their grid, fixing the problems you mentioned, and we've had lots of maintenance outages to replace poles. You mention generators, and that makes my point: The problem is manageable. A small generator can solve a lot of problems at a fairly low cost. I don't need much power for lighting, and have a number of battery powered camping lamps that work great. Candles too. My internet connection and servers are mission critical to me, but that's 80 watts total. If it's below freezing, I want to be able to run the furnace at least part time. My refrigerator and freezer are important, but not critical. I can get by with about 2kw. I think the Ryobi 2300 I have was $600. I can go a couple of hours without power easily before I need to start thinking about the generator. Siphoning gas from the cars works -- and has been tested, new cars are harder to tap for gas. 73 -- Lynn On 11/3/2019 12:04 AM, Jim Brown wrote: As to Elecraft - many of their employees live in areas that WERE affected by the power shutoffs. Some are my neighbors. Our generators have gotten a lot of running time in the past week or so. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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I do the same thing every power fail, and I see about a 15 to 20 db drop in noise as well... 73, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) https://www.nk7z.net ARRL Volunteer Examiner ARRL Technical Specialist ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources On 11/3/19 12:08 AM, Jim Brown wrote: On 11/2/2019 8:03 PM, Walter Underwood wrote: The positive part of a power shutoff is the elimination of nearby RFI. YES! During the shutoff, as I always do, I set the lower limit of the P3 at the noise level. When I turned it on after power was restored, it was about 15 dB higher! 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to d...@nk7z.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Whatever about fire and earthquakes, the weather is good and the state has jobs. There are reasons to refer to CA as the "Golden State".73 Doug EI2CNSent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. Original message From: Wayne Burdick Date: 03/11/2019 05:29 (GMT+00:00) To: Doug Renwick Cc: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] (OT) Ca Fires We Californians are used to unboring. We love it here. Disasters? Bring it. Great for KX2/3 testing :)WayneN6KRelecraft.com> On Nov 2, 2019, at 6:35 PM, Doug Renwick wrote:> > The big question is 'how much longer can Elecraft survive in California and> have to move elsewhere".> Doug> > > -Original Message-----> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] (OT) Ca Fires> > No impact that I know of.> > Wayne> N6KR> >> On Nov 2, 2019, at 12:19 PM, Jim H via Elecraft > wrote:>> >> Hi,>> >> Just wondering how the CA fires are affecting Elecraft?>> Jim h.k7...@aol.com> > > -- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.> https://www.avast.com/antivirus> __Elecraft mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftHelp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:elecr...@mailman.qth.netThis list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlMessage delivered to turnb...@net1.ie __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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On 11/2/2019 8:03 PM, Walter Underwood wrote: The positive part of a power shutoff is the elimination of nearby RFI. YES! During the shutoff, as I always do, I set the lower limit of the P3 at the noise level. When I turned it on after power was restored, it was about 15 dB higher! 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] (OT) Ca Fires
On 11/2/2019 7:05 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote: The power situation (especially in PG territory) is a different story, but one that's manageable. Really? You do realize that PG's distribution system has been badly neglected for decades, and has long been an accident ready to happen. And most of it is bare copper, making it more likely to start a fire. All because management CHOSE not to maintain it, instead paying themselves big salaries and bonuses, paying dividends to investors, and buying back stock. The result is that correcting the problem requires a MASSIVE investment and a massive amount of work that will takes decades to complete, and years to even begin! As to Elecraft - many of their employees live in areas that WERE affected by the power shutoffs. Some are my neighbors. Our generators have gotten a lot of running time in the past week or so. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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We Californians are used to unboring. We love it here. Disasters? Bring it. Great for KX2/3 testing :) Wayne N6KR elecraft.com > On Nov 2, 2019, at 6:35 PM, Doug Renwick wrote: > > The big question is 'how much longer can Elecraft survive in California and > have to move elsewhere". > Doug > > > -Original Message- > > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] (OT) Ca Fires > > No impact that I know of. > > Wayne > N6KR > >> On Nov 2, 2019, at 12:19 PM, Jim H via Elecraft > wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Just wondering how the CA fires are affecting Elecraft? >> Jim h.k7...@aol.com > > > -- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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The positive part of a power shutoff is the elimination of nearby RFI. Run from battery and you can hear the world. Unfortunately, some people have lost nearly everything. A good friend of ours lost his house in the Tubbs Fire (Santa Rosa), has moved into gtheir newly rebuilt house, and had to evacuate last week. This time, they had enough warning and a pre-organized list. He wrote an amazing graphic memoir about it. If you’d like to get a feel for how that impacted people, I highly recommend “A Fire Story” by Brian Fies. https://smile.amazon.com/Fire-Story-Brian-Fies/dp/1419735853 Our local public radio station produced a video with the first part of the story and narration by Brian. https://www.kqed.org/arts/13813960/watch-a-santa-rosa-cartoonists-a-fire-story-come-to-life wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Nov 2, 2019, at 9:05 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT > wrote: > > I've lived in California for a few decades. > > I've evacuated three times due to wildfires, all of them coming closer than > I'd like. > > I have never lost a single thing due to fire -- just some sleepless nights. > > The power situation (especially in PG territory) is a different story, but > one that's manageable. > > 73 -- Lynn > > On 11/2/2019 6:35 PM, Doug Renwick wrote: >> The big question is 'how much longer can Elecraft survive in California and >> have to move elsewhere". >> Doug > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wun...@wunderwood.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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I've lived in California for a few decades. I've evacuated three times due to wildfires, all of them coming closer than I'd like. I have never lost a single thing due to fire -- just some sleepless nights. The power situation (especially in PG territory) is a different story, but one that's manageable. 73 -- Lynn On 11/2/2019 6:35 PM, Doug Renwick wrote: The big question is 'how much longer can Elecraft survive in California and have to move elsewhere". Doug __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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i think a bit of an over reaction. Sent from my iPad > On Nov 2, 2019, at 9:37 PM, Doug Renwick wrote: > > The big question is 'how much longer can Elecraft survive in California and > have to move elsewhere". > Doug > > > -Original Message- > > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] (OT) Ca Fires > > No impact that I know of. > > Wayne > N6KR > >>> On Nov 2, 2019, at 12:19 PM, Jim H via Elecraft >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Just wondering how the CA fires are affecting Elecraft? >> Jim h.k7...@aol.com > > > -- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w...@w2xj.net > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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The big question is 'how much longer can Elecraft survive in California and have to move elsewhere". Doug -Original Message- Subject: Re: [Elecraft] (OT) Ca Fires No impact that I know of. Wayne N6KR > On Nov 2, 2019, at 12:19 PM, Jim H via Elecraft wrote: > > Hi, > > Just wondering how the CA fires are affecting Elecraft? > Jim h.k7...@aol.com -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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I am glad that Elecraft is not affected. I am sorry that anyone is being impacted by these devastating fires. I can't imagine, other than being physically injured or killed, anything that would impact anyone more than being displaced or having your home and property destroyed by fire. -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick Sent: Saturday, November 2, 2019 1:12 PM To: k7...@aol.com Cc: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] (OT) Ca Fires No impact that I know of. Wayne N6KR > On Nov 2, 2019, at 12:19 PM, Jim H via Elecraft wrote: > > Hi, > > Just wondering how the CA fires are affecting Elecraft? > Jim h.k7...@aol.com > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > n...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to marvwhee...@nwlink.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] (OT) Ca Fires
No impact that I know of. Wayne N6KR > On Nov 2, 2019, at 12:19 PM, Jim H via Elecraft > wrote: > > Hi, > > Just wondering how the CA fires are affecting Elecraft? > Jim h.k7...@aol.com > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] (OT) Ca Fires
Hi, Just wondering how the CA fires are affecting Elecraft? Jim h.k7...@aol.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
