Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-K3] Latest on the new home for my K3...

[Dave Cole]

Hi Jim,
Thanks, I was hoping you might chime in with some advice...  It will be 
simple to add a ground to the panel...  I used metal BNC with star 
washers on each.  Also, thanks for the links, I'll go look them over in 
the morning!


73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
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On 4/22/20 8:14 PM, Jim Brown wrote:

On 4/22/2020 1:51 PM, Dave Cole wrote:
I am trying to reduce the potential for ground loops, so I will not be 
using the patch panel as a ground connection point, it will just look 
like long coax runs to the equipment.


Ain't no such thing as a "ground loop," except to the extent that it 
could couple a magnetic field. In practice, that only happens when 
there's an error in mains power wiring, or when there's leakage flux 
from a big power transformer in close proximity. Indeed, with proper 
bonding for lightning protection and hum/buzz/RFI control, there SHOULD 
be loops due to multiple bonding paths. That's addressed in this slide 
deck for talks I've done at Visalia, Pacificon, and to multiple ham 
clubs, and most of it was incorporated in Ward Silver's ARRL book on the 
topic, on which we collaborated.


http://k9yc.com/GroundingAndAudio.pdf


I will be installing an entrance panel, and an additional ground rod 
later this summer.


The entrance panel will be connected via #6 to a set of three 8 foot 
ground rods, one at the electrical service, one at my shack, just 
outside the house, 15 feet away from the service ground, and a third, 
15 feet further down the house, all connected with #6 as well.


All incoming coax will be fed in via the entrance panel.  The entrance 
panel is a NEMA4 weatherproof box, 3 by 2, with a 1/4 inch copper 
sheet bolted to the raised supports in the rear of the box.


The copper plate inside the entrance panel is where the station 
outside ground system connects, and where the stations inside ground 
system connects via a Polyphasor on each coax cable, and a #8 copper 
wire.


On the rear of the desk will be a CM Choke I constructed-- RG-400, on 
two FT-240/31 cores.


At the antenna, is coax, feeding the Entrance panel.  I am conflicted 
on grounding the base of the antenna, and possibly adding another set 
of Polyphasors there...  More reading is needed on this... 


The aforementioned link, and Ward's book. BTW -- all the connectors on 
that beautiful new panel SHOULD be bonded to the panel, and the panel 
should be bonded to your station ground bus. Elecraft's earliest VHF 
transverters were built with feedthrough BNCs that were insulated from 
the shielding enclosure, and the two I bought used are unstable as a 
result.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-K3] Latest on the new home for my K3...

[Jim Brown]

On 4/22/2020 1:51 PM, Dave Cole wrote:
I am trying to reduce the potential for ground loops, so I will not be 
using the patch panel as a ground connection point, it will just look 
like long coax runs to the equipment.


Ain't no such thing as a "ground loop," except to the extent that it 
could couple a magnetic field. In practice, that only happens when 
there's an error in mains power wiring, or when there's leakage flux 
from a big power transformer in close proximity. Indeed, with proper 
bonding for lightning protection and hum/buzz/RFI control, there SHOULD 
be loops due to multiple bonding paths. That's addressed in this slide 
deck for talks I've done at Visalia, Pacificon, and to multiple ham 
clubs, and most of it was incorporated in Ward Silver's ARRL book on the 
topic, on which we collaborated.


http://k9yc.com/GroundingAndAudio.pdf


I will be installing an entrance panel, and an additional ground rod 
later this summer.


The entrance panel will be connected via #6 to a set of three 8 foot 
ground rods, one at the electrical service, one at my shack, just 
outside the house, 15 feet away from the service ground, and a third, 15 
feet further down the house, all connected with #6 as well.


All incoming coax will be fed in via the entrance panel.  The entrance 
panel is a NEMA4 weatherproof box, 3 by 2, with a 1/4 inch copper sheet 
bolted to the raised supports in the rear of the box.


The copper plate inside the entrance panel is where the station outside 
ground system connects, and where the stations inside ground system 
connects via a Polyphasor on each coax cable, and a #8 copper wire.


On the rear of the desk will be a CM Choke I constructed-- RG-400, on 
two FT-240/31 cores.


At the antenna, is coax, feeding the Entrance panel.  I am conflicted on 
grounding the base of the antenna, and possibly adding another set of 
Polyphasors there...  More reading is needed on this...  


The aforementioned link, and Ward's book. BTW -- all the connectors on 
that beautiful new panel SHOULD be bonded to the panel, and the panel 
should be bonded to your station ground bus. Elecraft's earliest VHF 
transverters were built with feedthrough BNCs that were insulated from 
the shielding enclosure, and the two I bought used are unstable as a 
result.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-K3] Latest on the new home for my K3...

[Dave Cole]

The finished product for grounding will be less pretty!  I am using a 
single point type grounding system, with one of those copper bars 
mounted on insulators as the center.


That bar is mounted on the rear of the desk vertical, (not on the 
hutch), just below where the hutch sits, and centered left to right 
behind the K3/P3/Amp/Tuner, about 6 inches below the back of the desktop.


Below that will be two 12 connector power strips.  All power is fed to 
the two power strips from a UPS, so everything save the KPA500 is on 
clean power.  The UPS will be grounded as the radios are.  The KPA500 is 
on the same AC circuit, but not on the UPS.


A flat copper strap will run from the grounding bar directly to each 
rigs chassis ground point, not via Panduit, but behind the Panduit.  All 
computers will have the chassis grounded in the same way, but I will use 
a #6, not copper sheeting.


I am trying to reduce the potential for ground loops, so I will not be 
using the patch panel as a ground connection point, it will just look 
like long coax runs to the equipment.


I will be installing an entrance panel, and an additional ground rod 
later this summer.


The entrance panel will be connected via #6 to a set of three 8 foot 
ground rods, one at the electrical service, one at my shack, just 
outside the house, 15 feet away from the service ground, and a third, 15 
feet further down the house, all connected with #6 as well.


All incoming coax will be fed in via the entrance panel.  The entrance 
panel is a NEMA4 weatherproof box, 3 by 2, with a 1/4 inch copper sheet 
bolted to the raised supports in the rear of the box.


The copper plate inside the entrance panel is where the station outside 
ground system connects, and where the stations inside ground system 
connects via a Polyphasor on each coax cable, and a #8 copper wire.


On the rear of the desk will be a CM Choke I constructed-- RG-400, on 
two FT-240/31 cores.


At the antenna, is coax, feeding the Entrance panel.  I am conflicted on 
grounding the base of the antenna, and possibly adding another set of 
Polyphasors there...  More reading is needed on this...  Any suggestions 
are welcome...


73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 4/22/20 10:57 AM, Jack Brindle wrote:

Dave;

Perhaps this has been asked, but what are you doing for equipment bonding?

73!
Jack, W6FB



On Apr 22, 2020, at 10:22 AM, Dave Cole  wrote:

Please thank him for that tip!!!  I will be using that from now on!!!

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 4/22/20 10:17 AM, David Haines wrote:

More advice from my robotics engineer son, who uses Panduit all over his robots!
"The most important secret of Panduit: Put a rubber band across the top between the 
tabs every couple of feet to keep things inside while filling it up. Easy to hook/unhook 
while getting everything in place."
david
KC1DNY
KX3 right now, but ... .  Good thing the K4 isn't shipping yet!
On 4/21/2020 11:48 PM, Dave Cole wrote:

Hi Clay,

I used the folks called Front Panel Express at:

https://www.frontpanelexpress.com/

Took a few hours to learn the free software they provide, but overall it was 
easy.  Not cheap, but very good results...

They even have a version that runs under Linux...

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 4/21/20 8:03 PM, Clay Autery wrote:

I ABSOLUTELY understand, and identify! 

Could you clue us in on how you sourced/built that panel?  I'd love to have 
access to something like that!

73

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On 04/21/20 21:49, Dave Cole wrote:

Thanks Clay...  I decided to add the patch panel because I am sick of haveing 
to rewire everything I want to change an antenna!  That and it feeds my OCD 
issues. :)

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 4/21/20 7:07 PM, Clay Autery wrote:

That is some really first rate work   I dig it when folks are 
fastidious about their cable routing and otherwise organize things logically and 
NEATLY!!

73,

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On 04/21/20 18:53, Dave Cole wrote:

https://www.nk7z.net/rf-patch-panel/

I am undertaking a full rebuild of my operating position, note the Patch Panel 
does not say K3 on it...  That means I can replace things with a K4 later...  :)






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Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-K3] Latest on the new home for my K3...

[Edward R Cole]

I'm halfway thru a complete shack reorg.  Cabling not so fancy but I 
am using peg-board with tiewraps thru the holes to dress cables.  I 
have 17 external antenna cables and at least that many rotator and 
control cables going outside.  Main advantage of the reorg is 
shortening cable length to both QRO amps and 50A PS (dropping IR 
loses).  Photos on my website when complete.


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Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-K3] Latest on the new home for my K3...

[Phil Kane]

On 4/22/2020 10:17 AM, David Haines wrote:

> "The most important secret of Panduit: Put a rubber band across the top
> between the tabs every couple of feet to keep things inside while
> filling it up. Easy to hook/unhook while getting everything in place."

The standard in the telephone industry always was to lace down the
cables to the cable tray every 2 feet or so,  What today's "technicians"
do is an exercise for the viewer.

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

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Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-K3] Latest on the new home for my K3...

[Jack Brindle via Elecraft]

Dave;

Perhaps this has been asked, but what are you doing for equipment bonding?

73!
Jack, W6FB


> On Apr 22, 2020, at 10:22 AM, Dave Cole  wrote:
> 
> Please thank him for that tip!!!  I will be using that from now on!!!
> 
> 73, and thanks,
> Dave (NK7Z)
> https://www.nk7z.net
> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
> ARRL Technical Specialist
> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
> 
> On 4/22/20 10:17 AM, David Haines wrote:
>> More advice from my robotics engineer son, who uses Panduit all over his 
>> robots!
>> "The most important secret of Panduit: Put a rubber band across the top 
>> between the tabs every couple of feet to keep things inside while filling it 
>> up. Easy to hook/unhook while getting everything in place."
>> david
>> KC1DNY
>> KX3 right now, but ... .  Good thing the K4 isn't shipping yet!
>> On 4/21/2020 11:48 PM, Dave Cole wrote:
>>> Hi Clay,
>>> 
>>> I used the folks called Front Panel Express at:
>>> 
>>> https://www.frontpanelexpress.com/
>>> 
>>> Took a few hours to learn the free software they provide, but overall it 
>>> was easy.  Not cheap, but very good results...
>>> 
>>> They even have a version that runs under Linux...
>>> 
>>> 73, and thanks,
>>> Dave (NK7Z)
>>> https://www.nk7z.net
>>> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
>>> ARRL Technical Specialist
>>> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
>>> 
>>> On 4/21/20 8:03 PM, Clay Autery wrote:
 I ABSOLUTELY understand, and identify! 
 
 Could you clue us in on how you sourced/built that panel?  I'd love to 
 have access to something like that!
 
 73
 
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 (318) 518-1389
 
 On 04/21/20 21:49, Dave Cole wrote:
> Thanks Clay...  I decided to add the patch panel because I am sick of 
> haveing to rewire everything I want to change an antenna!  That and it 
> feeds my OCD issues. :)
> 
> 73, and thanks,
> Dave (NK7Z)
> https://www.nk7z.net
> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
> ARRL Technical Specialist
> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
> 
> On 4/21/20 7:07 PM, Clay Autery wrote:
>> That is some really first rate work   I dig it when folks 
>> are fastidious about their cable routing and otherwise organize things 
>> logically and NEATLY!!
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> __
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>> (318) 518-1389
>> 
>> On 04/21/20 18:53, Dave Cole wrote:
>>> https://www.nk7z.net/rf-patch-panel/
>>> 
>>> I am undertaking a full rebuild of my operating position, note the 
>>> Patch Panel does not say K3 on it...  That means I can replace things 
>>> with a K4 later...  :)
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-K3] Latest on the new home for my K3...

[David Ferrington, M0XDF]

Thank you all for you responses.
73 de David, M0XDF


> On 22 Apr 2020, at 16:51, Dave Cole  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I did a quick and dirty review of the software used to design the Patch 
> Panel, at:
> 
> www.nk7z.net 
> 
> top review...
> 
> The tray is Panduit, see:
> 
> http://www.panduit.com/heiler/SelectionGuides/D-WDSG01--SA-UKE-WiringDuctProduct-W.pdf
>  
> 
> 
> I used the F type of Panduit.
> 
> 73, and thanks,
> Dave (NK7Z)
> https://www.nk7z.net 
> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
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> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
> 
> On 4/22/20 6:39 AM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:
>> Yes, I’d like to know to and the source of the cable trays.
>> It’s very neat and professional.
>> Mind you, it seems to me, that lots of cool stuff is not available from UK 
>> suppliers :-(
>> 73 de David, M0XDF
>> This story concerns four people – Everybody, Somebody, Anybody and Nobody.
>> There was an important job to be done and Everybody was sure that Somebody 
>> would do it.
>> Anybody could have done it but in the end Nobody did it.
>> Everybody got very angry over this because it really was Somebody’s job.
>> Everybody thought Somebody would do it, but Nobody realised that Anybody 
>> wouldn’t do it
>> It ended up that Everybody blamed Somebody when actually Nobody had asked 
>> Anybody.
>>> On 22 Apr 2020, at 04:03, Clay Autery  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I ABSOLUTELY understand, and identify! 
>>> 
>>> Could you clue us in on how you sourced/built that panel?  I'd love to have 
>>> access to something like that!
>>> 
>>> 73
>>> 
>>> __
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>>> (318) 518-1389
>>> 
>>> On 04/21/20 21:49, Dave Cole wrote:
 Thanks Clay...  I decided to add the patch panel because I am sick of 
 haveing to rewire everything I want to change an antenna!  That and it 
 feeds my OCD issues. :)
 
 73, and thanks,
 Dave (NK7Z)
 https://www.nk7z.net
 ARRL Volunteer Examiner
 ARRL Technical Specialist
 ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
 
 On 4/21/20 7:07 PM, Clay Autery wrote:
> That is some really first rate work   I dig it when folks 
> are fastidious about their cable routing and otherwise organize things 
> logically and NEATLY!!
> 
> 73,
> 
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> (318) 518-1389
> 
> On 04/21/20 18:53, Dave Cole wrote:
>> https://www.nk7z.net/rf-patch-panel/
>> 
>> I am undertaking a full rebuild of my operating position, note the Patch 
>> Panel does not say K3 on it... That means I can replace things with a K4 
>> later...  :)
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-K3] Latest on the new home for my K3...

[Dave Cole]

Please thank him for that tip!!!  I will be using that from now on!!!

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
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On 4/22/20 10:17 AM, David Haines wrote:
More advice from my robotics engineer son, who uses Panduit all over his 
robots!


"The most important secret of Panduit: Put a rubber band across the top 
between the tabs every couple of feet to keep things inside while 
filling it up. Easy to hook/unhook while getting everything in place."


david
KC1DNY
KX3 right now, but ... .  Good thing the K4 isn't shipping yet!

On 4/21/2020 11:48 PM, Dave Cole wrote:

Hi Clay,

I used the folks called Front Panel Express at:

https://www.frontpanelexpress.com/

Took a few hours to learn the free software they provide, but overall 
it was easy.  Not cheap, but very good results...


They even have a version that runs under Linux...

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 4/21/20 8:03 PM, Clay Autery wrote:

I ABSOLUTELY understand, and identify! 

Could you clue us in on how you sourced/built that panel?  I'd love 
to have access to something like that!


73

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(318) 518-1389

On 04/21/20 21:49, Dave Cole wrote:
Thanks Clay...  I decided to add the patch panel because I am sick 
of haveing to rewire everything I want to change an antenna!  That 
and it feeds my OCD issues. :)


73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 4/21/20 7:07 PM, Clay Autery wrote:
That is some really first rate work   I dig it when 
folks are fastidious about their cable routing and otherwise 
organize things logically and NEATLY!!


73,

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On 04/21/20 18:53, Dave Cole wrote:

https://www.nk7z.net/rf-patch-panel/

I am undertaking a full rebuild of my operating position, note the 
Patch Panel does not say K3 on it...  That means I can replace 
things with a K4 later...  :)







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Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-K3] Latest on the new home for my K3...

[David Haines]

More advice from my robotics engineer son, who uses Panduit all over his 
robots!


"The most important secret of Panduit: Put a rubber band across the top 
between the tabs every couple of feet to keep things inside while 
filling it up. Easy to hook/unhook while getting everything in place."


david
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KX3 right now, but ... .  Good thing the K4 isn't shipping yet!

On 4/21/2020 11:48 PM, Dave Cole wrote:

Hi Clay,

I used the folks called Front Panel Express at:

https://www.frontpanelexpress.com/

Took a few hours to learn the free software they provide, but overall 
it was easy.  Not cheap, but very good results...


They even have a version that runs under Linux...

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
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On 4/21/20 8:03 PM, Clay Autery wrote:

I ABSOLUTELY understand, and identify! 

Could you clue us in on how you sourced/built that panel?  I'd love 
to have access to something like that!


73

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On 04/21/20 21:49, Dave Cole wrote:
Thanks Clay...  I decided to add the patch panel because I am sick 
of haveing to rewire everything I want to change an antenna!  That 
and it feeds my OCD issues. :)


73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
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On 4/21/20 7:07 PM, Clay Autery wrote:
That is some really first rate work   I dig it when 
folks are fastidious about their cable routing and otherwise 
organize things logically and NEATLY!!


73,

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On 04/21/20 18:53, Dave Cole wrote:

https://www.nk7z.net/rf-patch-panel/

I am undertaking a full rebuild of my operating position, note the 
Patch Panel does not say K3 on it...  That means I can replace 
things with a K4 later...  :)







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Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-K3] Latest on the new home for my K3...

[Dave Cole]

I added a few more photos to the RF Patch Panel/Desk rebuild, these show 
the Zip ties removed.  Last few photos...


https://www.nk7z.net/rf-patch-panel/

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On 4/22/20 8:58 AM, Dave Cole wrote:
Most of the zip ties inside the Panduit were clipped out last night... I 
used them only to hold/form cables together as I run them in the Panduit.


I will leave the wire ties at the entry and exit points to the Panduit 
to assist in keeping things tidy as they enter, or exit the Panduit.


But... Given it is a patch panel, and the cables to it are specifically 
designed for the radio I use, (K3), changing configurations won't be a 
huge issue.


That is the reason for the patch panel in the first place, avoid 
rewiring for every change.


If I want to move antenna, or if I want to feed the output of the radio 
IF to an SDR, I just add a patch, if I want to bypass the tuner, I just 
patch around it...  You get the idea...




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On 4/22/20 8:28 AM, David Haines wrote:
My son is a robotics engineer and designer, so I knew he would be 
interested in the panel, which in my opinion is a work of art.


He did make the following helpful comment, though:

"Looks like it will be pretty nice! I want to know why he's zip tying 
everything inside the Panduit though. I've always used it to 
specifically avoid zip ties and still have a clean result. Gonna be 
annoying when he wants to change something!"


david

KC1DNY
Maine

On 4/21/2020 11:03 PM, Clay Autery wrote:

I ABSOLUTELY understand, and identify! 

Could you clue us in on how you sourced/built that panel?  I'd love 
to have access to something like that!


73

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(318) 518-1389

On 04/21/20 21:49, Dave Cole wrote:
Thanks Clay...  I decided to add the patch panel because I am sick 
of haveing to rewire everything I want to change an antenna!  That 
and it feeds my OCD issues. :)


73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
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ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 4/21/20 7:07 PM, Clay Autery wrote:
That is some really first rate work   I dig it when 
folks are fastidious about their cable routing and otherwise 
organize things logically and NEATLY!!


73,

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On 04/21/20 18:53, Dave Cole wrote:

https://www.nk7z.net/rf-patch-panel/

I am undertaking a full rebuild of my operating position, note the 
Patch Panel does not say K3 on it...  That means I can replace 
things with a K4 later...  :)







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Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-K3] Latest on the new home for my K3...

[Dave Cole]

Most of the zip ties inside the Panduit were clipped out last night... 
I used them only to hold/form cables together as I run them in the 
Panduit.


I will leave the wire ties at the entry and exit points to the Panduit 
to assist in keeping things tidy as they enter, or exit the Panduit.


But... Given it is a patch panel, and the cables to it are specifically 
designed for the radio I use, (K3), changing configurations won't be a 
huge issue.


That is the reason for the patch panel in the first place, avoid 
rewiring for every change.


If I want to move antenna, or if I want to feed the output of the radio 
IF to an SDR, I just add a patch, if I want to bypass the tuner, I just 
patch around it...  You get the idea...




73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
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ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 4/22/20 8:28 AM, David Haines wrote:
My son is a robotics engineer and designer, so I knew he would be 
interested in the panel, which in my opinion is a work of art.


He did make the following helpful comment, though:

"Looks like it will be pretty nice! I want to know why he's zip tying 
everything inside the Panduit though. I've always used it to 
specifically avoid zip ties and still have a clean result. Gonna be 
annoying when he wants to change something!"


david

KC1DNY
Maine

On 4/21/2020 11:03 PM, Clay Autery wrote:

I ABSOLUTELY understand, and identify! 

Could you clue us in on how you sourced/built that panel?  I'd love to 
have access to something like that!


73

__
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(318) 518-1389

On 04/21/20 21:49, Dave Cole wrote:
Thanks Clay...  I decided to add the patch panel because I am sick of 
haveing to rewire everything I want to change an antenna!  That and 
it feeds my OCD issues. :)


73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 4/21/20 7:07 PM, Clay Autery wrote:
That is some really first rate work   I dig it when 
folks are fastidious about their cable routing and otherwise 
organize things logically and NEATLY!!


73,

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(318) 518-1389

On 04/21/20 18:53, Dave Cole wrote:

https://www.nk7z.net/rf-patch-panel/

I am undertaking a full rebuild of my operating position, note the 
Patch Panel does not say K3 on it...  That means I can replace 
things with a K4 later...  :)







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Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-K3] Latest on the new home for my K3...

[Dave Cole]

Hi,
I did a quick and dirty review of the software used to design the Patch 
Panel, at:


www.nk7z.net

top review...

The tray is Panduit, see:

http://www.panduit.com/heiler/SelectionGuides/D-WDSG01--SA-UKE-WiringDuctProduct-W.pdf

I used the F type of Panduit.

73, and thanks,
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On 4/22/20 6:39 AM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:

Yes, I’d like to know to and the source of the cable trays.
It’s very neat and professional.

Mind you, it seems to me, that lots of cool stuff is not available from UK 
suppliers :-(

73 de David, M0XDF

This story concerns four people – Everybody, Somebody, Anybody and Nobody.
There was an important job to be done and Everybody was sure that Somebody 
would do it.
Anybody could have done it but in the end Nobody did it.
Everybody got very angry over this because it really was Somebody’s job.
Everybody thought Somebody would do it, but Nobody realised that Anybody 
wouldn’t do it
It ended up that Everybody blamed Somebody when actually Nobody had asked 
Anybody.


On 22 Apr 2020, at 04:03, Clay Autery  wrote:

I ABSOLUTELY understand, and identify! 

Could you clue us in on how you sourced/built that panel?  I'd love to have 
access to something like that!

73

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(318) 518-1389

On 04/21/20 21:49, Dave Cole wrote:

Thanks Clay...  I decided to add the patch panel because I am sick of haveing 
to rewire everything I want to change an antenna!  That and it feeds my OCD 
issues. :)

73, and thanks,
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https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
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ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 4/21/20 7:07 PM, Clay Autery wrote:

That is some really first rate work   I dig it when folks are 
fastidious about their cable routing and otherwise organize things logically and 
NEATLY!!

73,

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https://www.nk7z.net/rf-patch-panel/

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Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-K3] Latest on the new home for my K3...

[David Haines]

My son is a robotics engineer and designer, so I knew he would be 
interested in the panel, which in my opinion is a work of art.


He did make the following helpful comment, though:

"Looks like it will be pretty nice! I want to know why he's zip tying 
everything inside the Panduit though. I've always used it to 
specifically avoid zip ties and still have a clean result. Gonna be 
annoying when he wants to change something!"


david

KC1DNY
Maine

On 4/21/2020 11:03 PM, Clay Autery wrote:

I ABSOLUTELY understand, and identify! 

Could you clue us in on how you sourced/built that panel?  I'd love to 
have access to something like that!


73

__
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(318) 518-1389

On 04/21/20 21:49, Dave Cole wrote:
Thanks Clay...  I decided to add the patch panel because I am sick of 
haveing to rewire everything I want to change an antenna!  That and 
it feeds my OCD issues. :)


73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 4/21/20 7:07 PM, Clay Autery wrote:
That is some really first rate work   I dig it when 
folks are fastidious about their cable routing and otherwise 
organize things logically and NEATLY!!


73,

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(318) 518-1389

On 04/21/20 18:53, Dave Cole wrote:

https://www.nk7z.net/rf-patch-panel/

I am undertaking a full rebuild of my operating position, note the 
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things with a K4 later...  :)







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Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-K3] Latest on the new home for my K3...

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Yes, I’d like to know to and the source of the cable trays.
It’s very neat and professional.

Mind you, it seems to me, that lots of cool stuff is not available from UK 
suppliers :-(

73 de David, M0XDF

This story concerns four people – Everybody, Somebody, Anybody and Nobody.
There was an important job to be done and Everybody was sure that Somebody 
would do it.
Anybody could have done it but in the end Nobody did it.
Everybody got very angry over this because it really was Somebody’s job.
Everybody thought Somebody would do it, but Nobody realised that Anybody 
wouldn’t do it
It ended up that Everybody blamed Somebody when actually Nobody had asked 
Anybody.

> On 22 Apr 2020, at 04:03, Clay Autery  wrote:
> 
> I ABSOLUTELY understand, and identify! 
> 
> Could you clue us in on how you sourced/built that panel?  I'd love to have 
> access to something like that!
> 
> 73
> 
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> (318) 518-1389
> 
> On 04/21/20 21:49, Dave Cole wrote:
>> Thanks Clay...  I decided to add the patch panel because I am sick of 
>> haveing to rewire everything I want to change an antenna!  That and it feeds 
>> my OCD issues. :)
>> 
>> 73, and thanks,
>> Dave (NK7Z)
>> https://www.nk7z.net
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>> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
>> 
>> On 4/21/20 7:07 PM, Clay Autery wrote:
>>> That is some really first rate work   I dig it when folks 
>>> are fastidious about their cable routing and otherwise organize things 
>>> logically and NEATLY!!
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> 
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>>> (318) 518-1389
>>> 
>>> On 04/21/20 18:53, Dave Cole wrote:
 https://www.nk7z.net/rf-patch-panel/
 
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 later...  :)
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-K3] Latest on the new home for my K3...

[Dave Cole]

Hi Clay,

I used the folks called Front Panel Express at:

https://www.frontpanelexpress.com/

Took a few hours to learn the free software they provide, but overall it 
was easy.  Not cheap, but very good results...


They even have a version that runs under Linux...

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On 4/21/20 8:03 PM, Clay Autery wrote:

I ABSOLUTELY understand, and identify! 

Could you clue us in on how you sourced/built that panel?  I'd love to 
have access to something like that!


73

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(318) 518-1389

On 04/21/20 21:49, Dave Cole wrote:
Thanks Clay...  I decided to add the patch panel because I am sick of 
haveing to rewire everything I want to change an antenna!  That and it 
feeds my OCD issues. :)


73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
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ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 4/21/20 7:07 PM, Clay Autery wrote:
That is some really first rate work   I dig it when 
folks are fastidious about their cable routing and otherwise organize 
things logically and NEATLY!!


73,

__
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(318) 518-1389

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https://www.nk7z.net/rf-patch-panel/

I am undertaking a full rebuild of my operating position, note the 
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Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-K3] Latest on the new home for my K3...

[Clay Autery]

I ABSOLUTELY understand, and identify! 

Could you clue us in on how you sourced/built that panel?  I'd love to 
have access to something like that!


73

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On 04/21/20 21:49, Dave Cole wrote:
Thanks Clay...  I decided to add the patch panel because I am sick of 
haveing to rewire everything I want to change an antenna!  That and it 
feeds my OCD issues. :)


73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 4/21/20 7:07 PM, Clay Autery wrote:
That is some really first rate work   I dig it when 
folks are fastidious about their cable routing and otherwise organize 
things logically and NEATLY!!


73,

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(318) 518-1389

On 04/21/20 18:53, Dave Cole wrote:

https://www.nk7z.net/rf-patch-panel/

I am undertaking a full rebuild of my operating position, note the 
Patch Panel does not say K3 on it...  That means I can replace 
things with a K4 later...  :)







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Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-K3] Latest on the new home for my K3...

[Dave Cole]

Thanks Clay...  I decided to add the patch panel because I am sick of 
haveing to rewire everything I want to change an antenna!  That and it 
feeds my OCD issues. :)


73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 4/21/20 7:07 PM, Clay Autery wrote:
That is some really first rate work   I dig it when folks 
are fastidious about their cable routing and otherwise organize things 
logically and NEATLY!!


73,

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(318) 518-1389

On 04/21/20 18:53, Dave Cole wrote:

https://www.nk7z.net/rf-patch-panel/

I am undertaking a full rebuild of my operating position, note the 
Patch Panel does not say K3 on it...  That means I can replace things 
with a K4 later...  :)




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Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-K3] Latest on the new home for my K3...

[Clay Autery]

That is some really first rate work   I dig it when folks 
are fastidious about their cable routing and otherwise organize things 
logically and NEATLY!!


73,

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(318) 518-1389

On 04/21/20 18:53, Dave Cole wrote:

https://www.nk7z.net/rf-patch-panel/

I am undertaking a full rebuild of my operating position, note the 
Patch Panel does not say K3 on it...  That means I can replace things 
with a K4 later...  :)




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