[Elecraft] [OT] Maintaining Sanity With Filters
I am with Wes on this, who states more effectively than I did what I meant in my original post – that in my experience there is gold all over the place, and the titles of many posts are neither highly specific nor highly sensitive. Sometimes it’s like copying a CW signal that’s well below the noise. Any op can do it; and it’s often worthwhile. Ted, KN1CBR -- Message: 9 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 17:47:51 -0700 From: Wes Stewart <wes_n...@triconet.org> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Maintaining Sanity with Filters Message-ID: <9cdd4e5a-a693-27e9-34f5-766360b7a...@triconet.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed I run my email clients wide open like a direct sampling radio and post-process by eyeball and the [delete] key. I really don't understand all the fuss. Wes N7WS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Maintaining Sanity with Filters
Your tolerance level for off topic posts is different than many. 73s and thanks, Dave NK7Z http://www.nk7z.net On 08/01/2017 05:47 PM, Wes Stewart wrote: I run my email clients wide open like a direct sampling radio and post-process by eyeball and the [delete] key. I really don't understand all the fuss. Wes N7WS On 8/1/2017 4:00 PM, Jim Cassidy wrote: Is there an email roofing filter recommendation?? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to d...@nk7z.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Maintaining Sanity with Filters
Thanks for sharing, I think I will add some filters along those lines as well. My filters are rather simple now, but I see I will need to make them more complex to avoid all the off topic posts. Thanks for sharing! 73s and thanks, Dave NK7Z http://www.nk7z.net On 08/01/2017 02:52 PM, Kevin Stover, AC0H wrote: I have a filter setup for OT posts. If the sender of the email puts OT or [OT] in the subject line a required by the Elecraft guidelines my mail program will automatically move that email to an "OT" folder which I peruse at my convenience. All of my filters run on any new mail and move the mail to the respective folder. Any email that doesn't get moved ends up in a generic "Elecraft" folder with two strikes applied. If the mail wasn't sent by Eric or Wayne they're gone. Strike three. It all gets sorted and moved automatically. I don't have to touch it and don't ever see the emails the filters have deleted unless I check the trash before cleaning that out. It's usually right click and "empty folder". On 7/31/2017 7:16 PM, Dave Cole wrote: What if I make a post with the same title as the one above, and don't mention any Elecraft model numbers in either the body or subject... How do you make the decision to filter or delete then? I ask not to be contentious, but to learn how for my own filters. I don't want to have to set filters in real time for every OT post, but a general filter would be great. 73s and thanks, Dave NK7Z http://www.nk7z.net On 07/31/2017 04:47 PM, Kevin Stover, AC0H wrote: It's simple. I set my filters up to Elecraft mail list guidelines. Any mail those filters don't move to the correct local folder, K2, K3, KX3, etc..., are unceremoniously dumped. You could post the cure for cancer and if you can't follow the "rules" as set up by Elecraft my mail reader will auto-dump your scofflaw email. It works. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ksto...@ac0h.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Maintaining Sanity with Filters
I run my email clients wide open like a direct sampling radio and post-process by eyeball and the [delete] key. I really don't understand all the fuss. Wes N7WS On 8/1/2017 4:00 PM, Jim Cassidy wrote: Is there an email roofing filter recommendation?? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Maintaining Sanity with Filters
PopFile, although it's more like a really good DSP. On 8/1/2017 4:00 PM, Jim Cassidy wrote: Is there an email roofing filter recommendation?? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Maintaining Sanity with Filters
Is there an email roofing filter recommendation?? - Original Message - From: "Nr4c" <n...@widomaker.com> To: "Kevin Stover, AC0H" <ksto...@ac0h.net> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 3:37:05 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Maintaining Sanity with Filters Interesting subject. I don't seem to have trouble with the "filters" in my K3S. So I just deleted this thread. Now I see it is about "email filters". Duh, who knew? A more descriptive subject might have drawn me in. This is something I might be interested in Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Aug 1, 2017, at 5:52 PM, Kevin Stover, AC0H <ksto...@ac0h.net> wrote: > > I have a filter setup for OT posts. > > If the sender of the email puts OT or [OT] in the subject line a required by > the Elecraft guidelines my mail program will automatically move that email to > an "OT" folder which I peruse at my convenience. > > All of my filters run on any new mail and move the mail to the respective > folder. Any email that doesn't get moved ends up in a generic "Elecraft" > folder with two strikes applied. If the mail wasn't sent by Eric or Wayne > they're gone. Strike three. > > It all gets sorted and moved automatically. I don't have to touch it and > don't ever see the emails the filters have deleted unless I check the trash > before cleaning that out. It's usually right click and "empty folder". > > >> On 7/31/2017 7:16 PM, Dave Cole wrote: >> What if I make a post with the same title as the one above, and don't >> mention any Elecraft model numbers in either the body or subject... >> How do you make the decision to filter or delete then? I ask not to be >> contentious, but to learn how for my own filters. I don't want to have to >> set filters in real time for every OT post, but a general filter would be >> great. >> 73s and thanks, >> Dave >> NK7Z >> http://www.nk7z.net >>> On 07/31/2017 04:47 PM, Kevin Stover, AC0H wrote: >>> It's simple. >>> >>> I set my filters up to Elecraft mail list guidelines. >>> Any mail those filters don't move to the correct local folder, K2, K3, KX3, >>> etc..., are unceremoniously dumped. >>> >>> You could post the cure for cancer and if you can't follow the "rules" as >>> set up by Elecraft my mail reader will auto-dump your scofflaw email. >>> __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jc_k...@q.com -- Jim Cassidy KI7Y __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Maintaining Sanity with Filters
Interesting subject. I don't seem to have trouble with the "filters" in my K3S. So I just deleted this thread. Now I see it is about "email filters". Duh, who knew? A more descriptive subject might have drawn me in. This is something I might be interested in Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Aug 1, 2017, at 5:52 PM, Kevin Stover, AC0Hwrote: > > I have a filter setup for OT posts. > > If the sender of the email puts OT or [OT] in the subject line a required by > the Elecraft guidelines my mail program will automatically move that email to > an "OT" folder which I peruse at my convenience. > > All of my filters run on any new mail and move the mail to the respective > folder. Any email that doesn't get moved ends up in a generic "Elecraft" > folder with two strikes applied. If the mail wasn't sent by Eric or Wayne > they're gone. Strike three. > > It all gets sorted and moved automatically. I don't have to touch it and > don't ever see the emails the filters have deleted unless I check the trash > before cleaning that out. It's usually right click and "empty folder". > > >> On 7/31/2017 7:16 PM, Dave Cole wrote: >> What if I make a post with the same title as the one above, and don't >> mention any Elecraft model numbers in either the body or subject... >> How do you make the decision to filter or delete then? I ask not to be >> contentious, but to learn how for my own filters. I don't want to have to >> set filters in real time for every OT post, but a general filter would be >> great. >> 73s and thanks, >> Dave >> NK7Z >> http://www.nk7z.net >>> On 07/31/2017 04:47 PM, Kevin Stover, AC0H wrote: >>> It's simple. >>> >>> I set my filters up to Elecraft mail list guidelines. >>> Any mail those filters don't move to the correct local folder, K2, K3, KX3, >>> etc..., are unceremoniously dumped. >>> >>> You could post the cure for cancer and if you can't follow the "rules" as >>> set up by Elecraft my mail reader will auto-dump your scofflaw email. >>> __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Maintaining Sanity with Filters
I read a couple of dozen email reflectors, and have for years. Some have almost no traffic, some have a lot. Early on, I set up my email client (first PM Mail, now Thunderbird) to sort incoming mail by reflector. That simple process makes it very easy to read stuff. If there's stuff I don't care about, I simply delete it. For the same reason, I don't use Digest modes -- it's too hard to browse and delete. Over the years, I've learned a lot in unexpected places and and at unexpected times. :) If I simply trashed stuff without reading it, I would have missed a lot. 73, Jim K9YC On 8/1/2017 2:52 PM, Kevin Stover, AC0H wrote: I have a filter setup for OT posts. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Maintaining Sanity with Filters
I have a filter setup for OT posts. If the sender of the email puts OT or [OT] in the subject line a required by the Elecraft guidelines my mail program will automatically move that email to an "OT" folder which I peruse at my convenience. All of my filters run on any new mail and move the mail to the respective folder. Any email that doesn't get moved ends up in a generic "Elecraft" folder with two strikes applied. If the mail wasn't sent by Eric or Wayne they're gone. Strike three. It all gets sorted and moved automatically. I don't have to touch it and don't ever see the emails the filters have deleted unless I check the trash before cleaning that out. It's usually right click and "empty folder". On 7/31/2017 7:16 PM, Dave Cole wrote: What if I make a post with the same title as the one above, and don't mention any Elecraft model numbers in either the body or subject... How do you make the decision to filter or delete then? I ask not to be contentious, but to learn how for my own filters. I don't want to have to set filters in real time for every OT post, but a general filter would be great. 73s and thanks, Dave NK7Z http://www.nk7z.net On 07/31/2017 04:47 PM, Kevin Stover, AC0H wrote: It's simple. I set my filters up to Elecraft mail list guidelines. Any mail those filters don't move to the correct local folder, K2, K3, KX3, etc..., are unceremoniously dumped. You could post the cure for cancer and if you can't follow the "rules" as set up by Elecraft my mail reader will auto-dump your scofflaw email. It works. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ksto...@ac0h.net -- R. Kevin StoverAC0H FISTS #11993 SKCC #215 NAQCC #3441 ARRL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Maintaining Sanity with Filters
What if I make a post with the same title as the one above, and don't mention any Elecraft model numbers in either the body or subject... How do you make the decision to filter or delete then? I ask not to be contentious, but to learn how for my own filters. I don't want to have to set filters in real time for every OT post, but a general filter would be great. 73s and thanks, Dave NK7Z http://www.nk7z.net On 07/31/2017 04:47 PM, Kevin Stover, AC0H wrote: It's simple. I set my filters up to Elecraft mail list guidelines. Any mail those filters don't move to the correct local folder, K2, K3, KX3, etc..., are unceremoniously dumped. You could post the cure for cancer and if you can't follow the "rules" as set up by Elecraft my mail reader will auto-dump your scofflaw email. It works. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Maintaining Sanity with Filters
And it works with more than this Elecraft list! It seems many folks become deeply enamored in making their filters perfect. I can hit the delete key for all the ones that escape my filters in far fewer keystrokes than what setting up perfect filters takes. Elecraft list is easy ... while not adhered to religiously, many [most?] subject lines contain the product(s) that the post pertains to. 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County On 7/31/2017 4:47 PM, Kevin Stover, AC0H wrote: It's simple. I set my filters up to Elecraft mail list guidelines. Any mail those filters don't move to the correct local folder, K2, K3, KX3, etc..., are unceremoniously dumped. You could post the cure for cancer and if you can't follow the "rules" as set up by Elecraft my mail reader will auto-dump your scofflaw email. It works. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Maintaining Sanity with Filters
It's simple. I set my filters up to Elecraft mail list guidelines. Any mail those filters don't move to the correct local folder, K2, K3, KX3, etc..., are unceremoniously dumped. You could post the cure for cancer and if you can't follow the "rules" as set up by Elecraft my mail reader will auto-dump your scofflaw email. It works. -- R. Kevin StoverAC0H FISTS #11993 SKCC #215 NAQCC #3441 ARRL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com