Re: [Elecraft] Checking out Elecraft on ChatGPT

2023-02-17 Thread Dave (NK7Z)

Or paste in "Unformatted text"...

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
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On 2/17/23 13:14, kevin via Elecraft wrote:
If you want to copy and paste from the web it helps to add another step 
to the process.


Paste the selected text into a text processor such as WordPad on a 
Microsoft system or gedit on a Linux system.  Then copy the text again. 
This will eliminate any formatting, fonts, or colors which don't fit 
your email application.


Paste that second copy into your email application and it should look 
much better.


    73,

   Kevin.  KD5ONS


On 2/17/23 13:06, j...@kk9a.com wrote:

Maybe sending the text a third time will work:)



Alan Bloom n1al wrote:


That's weird.  The spaces were there in the sent message - they somehow
disappeared in the reflected copy.;  Let's try again:

CompareanElecraftK3withanElecraftK4.

TheElecraftK3andElecraftK4arebothhigh-endAmateurRadiotransceiversdesignedfor
performingradiooperationsinboththeHFandVHF/UHFbands.TheK3isthepredecessortot
heK4,butbothmodelsoffertop-of-the-lineperformancefortheirrespectiveclasses.

TheK3isanHF/VHFtransceiverthatoffersupto100wattsofpoweroutput.Itfeaturesadua
l-channelreceiver,anoptionalroofingfilter,andabuilt-inantennatuner.Itisamodu
lardesign,allowinguserstocustomizetheirsetupwithadditionalmodules,suchasadig
italvoicerecorder,remotecontrol,andCWdecoder.

TheK4isanHF/VHF/UHFtransceiverthatoffersupto200wattsofpoweroutput.Itfeatures
adual-channelreceiver,roofingfilters,andanintegratedantennatuner.Italsoinclu
desabuilt-indigitalvoicerecorderandaCWdecoder.Italsosupportsanoptionalremote
control.

Intermsofperformance,theK4isthesuperiorofthetwomodels,asitprovidesmorepowero
utput,abroaderrangeoffrequencies,andadditionalfeatures.However,theK3isstilla
capabletransceiver,anddependingontheuser'sneeds,itmaybethebetteroption.

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Re: [Elecraft] Checking out Elecraft on ChatGPT

2023-02-17 Thread Fred Jensen
Indeed, 3 was the magic number!  Reads like a spec sheet or copy from an 
Elecraft ad.  Heard an interesting program on KUNR [Univ of NV Public 
Radio] the other day interviewing 3 attorneys who specialize in 
copyright/patent infringement cases.  The basic question to them was, 
"If ChatGPT is 'trained' using copyrighted material, mainly from the 
I'net, and it then coughs up answers/dissertations from what it learned, 
is that infringement on all the existing copyrights?"  The 3 didn't 
positively conclude yes or no, but a lot of interesting considerations 
did come up.


In early 1960, while a student at Cal Poly in San Luis Obispo, the Math 
Dept acquired a Bendix G-15D computer.  It resembled a small fridge, 
2,100 or so 29-bit "words" of recirculating drum memory, several gobs of 
dual triode vacuum tubes, a bunch of germanium diodes, paper tape reader 
and punch, and a modified IBM Selectric typewriter.  Fairly cutting edge 
for its time.


Dept. Head asked me and a friend to conjure up something to demonstrate 
it at the annual open house at the University.  We finally came up with 
"Psycho," [math majors aren't always the most creative of folks with 
words] that would answer questions typed on the Selectric.  It wasn't 
very sophisticated ... how much can you do in 2,100 words at 4 
characters per word?  It gave occasional slightly plausible answers to 
questions, but unknown to the visitors, it simply hashed their 
questions, did a little randomizing of the hash, and picked an answer 
from a small canned stash.  We arranged the potential answers to be 
vague, similar to a politician's speech, at least semi-applicable to 
common questions, often evasive, and quite believable if you really 
wanted to believe the fridge next to you with the blinking lights was 
really conversing with you.


To add a twist, you could hypnotize it by typing "sleep" a few times and 
it would then, if told "You are a dog," reply with "I are a dog ... 
woof."  None of the visiting parents had ever seen a computer in 1960, 
and notwithstanding the utter simplicity of the "conversations," most 
appeared convinced the machine had intelligence.  Enough so that a 
couple of psych profs came over to observe the interactions.


I'm sure that OpenAI is using machinery with more than 2,100 words of 
memory.  Nonetheless, in the times I've played with ChatGPT, quite a few 
of the responses often have a "look-up" flavor like the dissertation on 
the K3/K4.


73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

Alan Bloom wrote on 2/17/2023 2:08 PM:

OK, maybe third time's the charm:

Compare an Elecraft K3 with an Elecraft K4.

The Elecraft K3 and Elecraft K4 are both high-end Amateur Radio 
transceivers designed for performing radio operations in both the HF 
and VHF/UHF bands. The K3 is the predecessor to the K4, but both 
models offer top-of-the-line performance for their respective classes.


The K3 is an HF/VHF transceiver that offers up to 100 watts of power 
output. It features a dual-channel receiver, an optional roofing 
filter, and a built-in antenna tuner. It is a modular design, allowing 
users to customize their set up with additional modules, such as a 
digital voice recorder, remote control, and CW decoder.


The K4 is an HF/VHF/UHF transceiver that offers up to 200 watts of 
power output. It features a dual-channel receiver, roofing filters, 
and an integrated antenna tuner. It also includes a built-in digital 
voice recorder and a CW decoder. It also supports an optional remote 
control.


In terms of performance, the K4 is the superior of the two models, as 
it provides more power output, a broader range of frequencies, and 
additional features. However, the K3 is still a capable transceiver, 
and depending on the user’s needs, it may be the better option.




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Re: [Elecraft] Checking out Elecraft on ChatGPT

2023-02-17 Thread Alan Bloom



On 2/17/23 14:14, kevin via Elecraft wrote:
If you want to copy and paste from the web it helps to add another 
step to the process.


Paste the selected text into a text processor such as WordPad on a 
Microsoft system or gedit on a Linux system.  Then copy the text 
again.  This will eliminate any formatting, fonts, or colors which 
don't fit your email application.


Paste that second copy into your email application and it should look 
much better.


OK, maybe third time's the charm:



Compare an Elecraft K3 with an Elecraft K4.

The Elecraft K3 and Elecraft K4 are both high-end Amateur Radio 
transceivers designed for performing radio operations in both the HF and 
VHF/UHF bands. The K3 is the predecessor to the K4, but both models 
offer top-of-the-line performance for their respective classes.


The K3 is an HF/VHF transceiver that offers up to 100 watts of power 
output. It features a dual-channel receiver, an optional roofing filter, 
and a built-in antenna tuner. It is a modular design, allowing users to 
customize their set up with additional modules, such as a digital voice 
recorder, remote control, and CW decoder.


The K4 is an HF/VHF/UHF transceiver that offers up to 200 watts of power 
output. It features a dual-channel receiver, roofing filters, and an 
integrated antenna tuner. It also includes a built-in digital voice 
recorder and a CW decoder. It also supports an optional remote control.


In terms of performance, the K4 is the superior of the two models, as it 
provides more power output, a broader range of frequencies, and 
additional features. However, the K3 is still a capable transceiver, and 
depending on the user’s needs, it may be the better option.


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Re: [Elecraft] Checking out Elecraft on ChatGPT

2023-02-17 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
Argh.  I keep forgetting to change my 'from' to the email address I'm 
subscribed to this list as.


Try sending in text, rather than HTML mode, if you can.

73,
-- Dave, N8SBE

On 2023-02-17 14:51, Alan Bloom wrote:

On 2/17/23 12:48, Dave New, N8SBE wrote:

Alan,

For starters where are all the spaces? :-)  Makes it hard to read, 
that's for sure.


That's weird.  The spaces were there in the sent message - they
somehow disappeared in the reflected copy.;  Let's try again:

CompareanElecraftK3withanElecraftK4.

TheElecraftK3andElecraftK4arebothhigh-endAmateurRadiotransceiversdesignedforperformingradiooperationsinboththeHFandVHF/UHFbands.TheK3isthepredecessortotheK4,butbothmodelsoffertop-of-the-lineperformancefortheirrespectiveclasses.

TheK3isanHF/VHFtransceiverthatoffersupto100wattsofpoweroutput.Itfeaturesadual-channelreceiver,anoptionalroofingfilter,andabuilt-inantennatuner.Itisamodulardesign,allowinguserstocustomizetheirsetupwithadditionalmodules,suchasadigitalvoicerecorder,remotecontrol,andCWdecoder.

TheK4isanHF/VHF/UHFtransceiverthatoffersupto200wattsofpoweroutput.Itfeaturesadual-channelreceiver,roofingfilters,andanintegratedantennatuner.Italsoincludesabuilt-indigitalvoicerecorderandaCWdecoder.Italsosupportsanoptionalremotecontrol.

Intermsofperformance,theK4isthesuperiorofthetwomodels,asitprovidesmorepoweroutput,abroaderrangeoffrequencies,andadditionalfeatures.However,theK3isstillacapabletransceiver,anddependingontheuser’sneeds,itmaybethebetteroption.
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Re: [Elecraft] Checking out Elecraft on ChatGPT

2023-02-17 Thread kevin via Elecraft
If you want to copy and paste from the web it helps to add another step 
to the process.


Paste the selected text into a text processor such as WordPad on a 
Microsoft system or gedit on a Linux system.  Then copy the text again.  
This will eliminate any formatting, fonts, or colors which don't fit 
your email application.


Paste that second copy into your email application and it should look 
much better.


   73,

  Kevin.  KD5ONS


On 2/17/23 13:06, j...@kk9a.com wrote:

Maybe sending the text a third time will work:)



Alan Bloom n1al wrote:


That's weird.  The spaces were there in the sent message - they somehow
disappeared in the reflected copy.;  Let's try again:

CompareanElecraftK3withanElecraftK4.

TheElecraftK3andElecraftK4arebothhigh-endAmateurRadiotransceiversdesignedfor
performingradiooperationsinboththeHFandVHF/UHFbands.TheK3isthepredecessortot
heK4,butbothmodelsoffertop-of-the-lineperformancefortheirrespectiveclasses.

TheK3isanHF/VHFtransceiverthatoffersupto100wattsofpoweroutput.Itfeaturesadua
l-channelreceiver,anoptionalroofingfilter,andabuilt-inantennatuner.Itisamodu
lardesign,allowinguserstocustomizetheirsetupwithadditionalmodules,suchasadig
italvoicerecorder,remotecontrol,andCWdecoder.

TheK4isanHF/VHF/UHFtransceiverthatoffersupto200wattsofpoweroutput.Itfeatures
adual-channelreceiver,roofingfilters,andanintegratedantennatuner.Italsoinclu
desabuilt-indigitalvoicerecorderandaCWdecoder.Italsosupportsanoptionalremote
control.

Intermsofperformance,theK4isthesuperiorofthetwomodels,asitprovidesmorepowero
utput,abroaderrangeoffrequencies,andadditionalfeatures.However,theK3isstilla
capabletransceiver,anddependingontheuser'sneeds,itmaybethebetteroption.

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Re: [Elecraft] Checking out Elecraft on ChatGPT

2023-02-17 Thread Fred Jensen

Chances are high that they really weren't ASCII space characters.

73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

Alan Bloom wrote on 2/17/2023 12:51 PM:



On 2/17/23 12:48, Dave New, N8SBE wrote:

Alan,

For starters where are all the spaces? :-)  Makes it hard to read, 
that's for sure.


That's weird.  The spaces were there in the sent message - they 
somehow disappeared in the reflected copy.;  Let's try again:


CompareanElecraftK3withanElecraftK4.

TheElecraftK3andElecraftK4arebothhigh-endAmateurRadiotransceiversdesignedforperformingradiooperationsinboththeHFandVHF/UHFbands.TheK3isthepredecessortotheK4,butbothmodelsoffertop-of-the-lineperformancefortheirrespectiveclasses. 



TheK3isanHF/VHFtransceiverthatoffersupto100wattsofpoweroutput.Itfeaturesadual-channelreceiver,anoptionalroofingfilter,andabuilt-inantennatuner.Itisamodulardesign,allowinguserstocustomizetheirsetupwithadditionalmodules,suchasadigitalvoicerecorder,remotecontrol,andCWdecoder. 



TheK4isanHF/VHF/UHFtransceiverthatoffersupto200wattsofpoweroutput.Itfeaturesadual-channelreceiver,roofingfilters,andanintegratedantennatuner.Italsoincludesabuilt-indigitalvoicerecorderandaCWdecoder.Italsosupportsanoptionalremotecontrol. 



Intermsofperformance,theK4isthesuperiorofthetwomodels,asitprovidesmorepoweroutput,abroaderrangeoffrequencies,andadditionalfeatures.However,theK3isstillacapabletransceiver,anddependingontheuser’sneeds,itmaybethebetteroption. 


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Re: [Elecraft] Checking out Elecraft on ChatGPT

2023-02-17 Thread Rick NK7I
The old CW traffic handler gag was "Having a great time.  Wish you were 
her(e)" with the final dit, missed.


73,
Rick nk7i


On 2/17/2023 12:50 PM, Dale Boresz wrote:

Unfortunately, there are a lot of missing spaces on the CW bands too.

73,
Dale - WA8SRA

On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 2:49 PM Dave New, N8SBE  wrote:


Alan,

For starters where are all the spaces? :-)  Makes it hard to read,
that's for sure.

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Re: [Elecraft] Checking out Elecraft on ChatGPT

2023-02-17 Thread john
Maybe sending the text a third time will work:)



Alan Bloom n1al wrote:


That's weird.  The spaces were there in the sent message - they somehow 
disappeared in the reflected copy.;  Let's try again:

CompareanElecraftK3withanElecraftK4.

TheElecraftK3andElecraftK4arebothhigh-endAmateurRadiotransceiversdesignedfor
performingradiooperationsinboththeHFandVHF/UHFbands.TheK3isthepredecessortot
heK4,butbothmodelsoffertop-of-the-lineperformancefortheirrespectiveclasses.

TheK3isanHF/VHFtransceiverthatoffersupto100wattsofpoweroutput.Itfeaturesadua
l-channelreceiver,anoptionalroofingfilter,andabuilt-inantennatuner.Itisamodu
lardesign,allowinguserstocustomizetheirsetupwithadditionalmodules,suchasadig
italvoicerecorder,remotecontrol,andCWdecoder.

TheK4isanHF/VHF/UHFtransceiverthatoffersupto200wattsofpoweroutput.Itfeatures
adual-channelreceiver,roofingfilters,andanintegratedantennatuner.Italsoinclu
desabuilt-indigitalvoicerecorderandaCWdecoder.Italsosupportsanoptionalremote
control.

Intermsofperformance,theK4isthesuperiorofthetwomodels,asitprovidesmorepowero
utput,abroaderrangeoffrequencies,andadditionalfeatures.However,theK3isstilla
capabletransceiver,anddependingontheuser'sneeds,itmaybethebetteroption.

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Re: [Elecraft] Checking out Elecraft on ChatGPT

2023-02-17 Thread Alan Bloom



On 2/17/23 12:48, Dave New, N8SBE wrote:

Alan,

For starters where are all the spaces? :-)  Makes it hard to read, 
that's for sure.


That's weird.  The spaces were there in the sent message - they somehow 
disappeared in the reflected copy.;  Let's try again:


CompareanElecraftK3withanElecraftK4.

TheElecraftK3andElecraftK4arebothhigh-endAmateurRadiotransceiversdesignedforperformingradiooperationsinboththeHFandVHF/UHFbands.TheK3isthepredecessortotheK4,butbothmodelsoffertop-of-the-lineperformancefortheirrespectiveclasses.

TheK3isanHF/VHFtransceiverthatoffersupto100wattsofpoweroutput.Itfeaturesadual-channelreceiver,anoptionalroofingfilter,andabuilt-inantennatuner.Itisamodulardesign,allowinguserstocustomizetheirsetupwithadditionalmodules,suchasadigitalvoicerecorder,remotecontrol,andCWdecoder.

TheK4isanHF/VHF/UHFtransceiverthatoffersupto200wattsofpoweroutput.Itfeaturesadual-channelreceiver,roofingfilters,andanintegratedantennatuner.Italsoincludesabuilt-indigitalvoicerecorderandaCWdecoder.Italsosupportsanoptionalremotecontrol.

Intermsofperformance,theK4isthesuperiorofthetwomodels,asitprovidesmorepoweroutput,abroaderrangeoffrequencies,andadditionalfeatures.However,theK3isstillacapabletransceiver,anddependingontheuser’sneeds,itmaybethebetteroption.
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Re: [Elecraft] Checking out Elecraft on ChatGPT

2023-02-17 Thread Dale Boresz
Unfortunately, there are a lot of missing spaces on the CW bands too.

73,
Dale - WA8SRA

On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 2:49 PM Dave New, N8SBE  wrote:

> Alan,
>
> For starters where are all the spaces? :-)  Makes it hard to read,
> that's for sure.
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Re: [Elecraft] Checking out Elecraft on ChatGPT

2023-02-17 Thread Dave (NK7Z)
The AI has determined that it is the humans duty to get used to the far 
more efficient method of writing, by the removal of spaces...


Saves time, saves space, and best of all saves CPU cycles...  You stupid 
humans need to realize that...  Oh wait...  Never mind, how can I help you?


73,
Dave,
https://www.nk7z.net
On 2/17/23 11:48, Dave New, N8SBE wrote:

Alan,

For starters where are all the spaces? :-)  Makes it hard to read, 
that's for sure.


There are so many errors:
1) The K3 might be considered an HF/VHF receiver, is you count 6M as 
VHF.  Also, you can add an internal 2M transverter, but that's optional.
2) The K3 has 'up to' 100W.  Not sure if that's a reference to the 
continuously-variable output power, or the fact that the base K3 is a 
10W (12W?) rig.

3) The dual-channel receiver for the K3 is an option.
4) One roofing filter is required for the K3.  More (up to 5 per 
receiver) are optional.

5) The ATU is optional for the K3.
6) Remote control for the K3 is not a built-in option.  Are they taking 
about the K3/0?

7) The CW decoder for the K3 comes standard, and is not an option.
8) The K4 (AFAIK) is not a UHF radio (see 1, above).  I don't think a 
UHF internal transverter option has been announced (but it would be nice)?

9) 200W for the K4?  I wish.
10) The K4D has dual 'spectral' (to steal a phrase from Flex) units, but 
that's an option.

11) The K4HD has roofing filters, not the base K4 or K4D.
12) The ATU is also optional for the K4.
13) The optional remote control for the K4 is not built-in, and so far, 
not available.  Could they be talking about the K4/0?


73,
-- Dave, N8SBE

On 2023-02-17 13:16, Alan Bloom wrote:

The latest fad in AI (Artificial Intelligence) is ChatGPT, now
supported on Google and other platforms.  I think of it as a "super
Google" where you can ask questions and get detailed answers.  Just
for grins I entered the following request with the following answer.
The response "sounds" very authoritative, but see if you can spot all
the errors. :=)

Alan N1AL

CompareanElecraftK3withanElecraftK4.

TheElecraftK3andElecraftK4arebothhigh-endAmateurRadiotransceiversdesignedforperformingradiooperationsinboththeHFandVHF/UHFbands.TheK3isthepredecessortotheK4,butbothmodelsoffertop-of-the-lineperformancefortheirrespectiveclasses.

TheK3isanHF/VHFtransceiverthatoffersupto100wattsofpoweroutput.Itfeaturesadual-channelreceiver,anoptionalroofingfilter,andabuilt-inantennatuner.Itisamodulardesign,allowinguserstocustomizetheirsetupwithadditionalmodules,suchasadigitalvoicerecorder,remotecontrol,andCWdecoder.

TheK4isanHF/VHF/UHFtransceiverthatoffersupto200wattsofpoweroutput.Itfeaturesadual-channelreceiver,roofingfilters,andanintegratedantennatuner.Italsoincludesabuilt-indigitalvoicerecorderandaCWdecoder.Italsosupportsanoptionalremotecontrol.

Intermsofperformance,theK4isthesuperiorofthetwomodels,asitprovidesmorepoweroutput,abroaderrangeoffrequencies,andadditionalfeatures.However,theK3isstillacapabletransceiver,anddependingontheuser’sneeds,itmaybethebetteroption.
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Re: [Elecraft] Checking out Elecraft on ChatGPT

2023-02-17 Thread Dave New, N8SBE

Alan,

For starters where are all the spaces? :-)  Makes it hard to read, 
that's for sure.


There are so many errors:
1) The K3 might be considered an HF/VHF receiver, is you count 6M as 
VHF.  Also, you can add an internal 2M transverter, but that's optional.
2) The K3 has 'up to' 100W.  Not sure if that's a reference to the 
continuously-variable output power, or the fact that the base K3 is a 
10W (12W?) rig.

3) The dual-channel receiver for the K3 is an option.
4) One roofing filter is required for the K3.  More (up to 5 per 
receiver) are optional.

5) The ATU is optional for the K3.
6) Remote control for the K3 is not a built-in option.  Are they taking 
about the K3/0?

7) The CW decoder for the K3 comes standard, and is not an option.
8) The K4 (AFAIK) is not a UHF radio (see 1, above).  I don't think a 
UHF internal transverter option has been announced (but it would be 
nice)?

9) 200W for the K4?  I wish.
10) The K4D has dual 'spectral' (to steal a phrase from Flex) units, but 
that's an option.

11) The K4HD has roofing filters, not the base K4 or K4D.
12) The ATU is also optional for the K4.
13) The optional remote control for the K4 is not built-in, and so far, 
not available.  Could they be talking about the K4/0?


73,
-- Dave, N8SBE

On 2023-02-17 13:16, Alan Bloom wrote:

The latest fad in AI (Artificial Intelligence) is ChatGPT, now
supported on Google and other platforms.  I think of it as a "super
Google" where you can ask questions and get detailed answers.  Just
for grins I entered the following request with the following answer. 
The response "sounds" very authoritative, but see if you can spot all
the errors. :=)

Alan N1AL

CompareanElecraftK3withanElecraftK4.

TheElecraftK3andElecraftK4arebothhigh-endAmateurRadiotransceiversdesignedforperformingradiooperationsinboththeHFandVHF/UHFbands.TheK3isthepredecessortotheK4,butbothmodelsoffertop-of-the-lineperformancefortheirrespectiveclasses.

TheK3isanHF/VHFtransceiverthatoffersupto100wattsofpoweroutput.Itfeaturesadual-channelreceiver,anoptionalroofingfilter,andabuilt-inantennatuner.Itisamodulardesign,allowinguserstocustomizetheirsetupwithadditionalmodules,suchasadigitalvoicerecorder,remotecontrol,andCWdecoder.

TheK4isanHF/VHF/UHFtransceiverthatoffersupto200wattsofpoweroutput.Itfeaturesadual-channelreceiver,roofingfilters,andanintegratedantennatuner.Italsoincludesabuilt-indigitalvoicerecorderandaCWdecoder.Italsosupportsanoptionalremotecontrol.

Intermsofperformance,theK4isthesuperiorofthetwomodels,asitprovidesmorepoweroutput,abroaderrangeoffrequencies,andadditionalfeatures.However,theK3isstillacapabletransceiver,anddependingontheuser’sneeds,itmaybethebetteroption.
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[Elecraft] Checking out Elecraft on ChatGPT

2023-02-17 Thread Alan Bloom
The latest fad in AI (Artificial Intelligence) is ChatGPT, now supported 
on Google and other platforms.  I think of it as a "super Google" where 
you can ask questions and get detailed answers.  Just for grins I 
entered the following request with the following answer.  The response 
"sounds" very authoritative, but see if you can spot all the errors. :=)


Alan N1AL

CompareanElecraftK3withanElecraftK4.

TheElecraftK3andElecraftK4arebothhigh-endAmateurRadiotransceiversdesignedforperformingradiooperationsinboththeHFandVHF/UHFbands.TheK3isthepredecessortotheK4,butbothmodelsoffertop-of-the-lineperformancefortheirrespectiveclasses.

TheK3isanHF/VHFtransceiverthatoffersupto100wattsofpoweroutput.Itfeaturesadual-channelreceiver,anoptionalroofingfilter,andabuilt-inantennatuner.Itisamodulardesign,allowinguserstocustomizetheirsetupwithadditionalmodules,suchasadigitalvoicerecorder,remotecontrol,andCWdecoder.

TheK4isanHF/VHF/UHFtransceiverthatoffersupto200wattsofpoweroutput.Itfeaturesadual-channelreceiver,roofingfilters,andanintegratedantennatuner.Italsoincludesabuilt-indigitalvoicerecorderandaCWdecoder.Italsosupportsanoptionalremotecontrol.

Intermsofperformance,theK4isthesuperiorofthetwomodels,asitprovidesmorepoweroutput,abroaderrangeoffrequencies,andadditionalfeatures.However,theK3isstillacapabletransceiver,anddependingontheuser’sneeds,itmaybethebetteroption.
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