RE: [Elecraft] Good Public Relations (WAS: OT - Lighthouses and Amateurradio)

2007-06-23 Thread John Lemay
Good morning all

I'm a newcomer (just 2 days so far) to this group, and joined with the
single objective of learning more about the K3. I'm afraid lighthouse
information does nothing at all for me.

Thanks

John G4ZTR

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron D'Eau Claire
Sent: 23 June 2007 07:35
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Good Public Relations (WAS: OT - Lighthouses and
Amateurradio)

Hi Ken:

Thanks for the clarification. I think the subject IS appropriate to Amateur
Radio Operators and so Elecraft owners. We, as Amateur Radio Licensees, have
an obligation to consider the impact of our activities on non-Hams. I would
be miffed to bring some of my European relatives to, say, our local Newport
Oregon lighthouse to see a bit of history and find some sort of Ham radio
operating activity going on that detracts from the experience of visiting a
historic structure. 

It never occurred to me that any such group would intrude on places like
lighthouses in a way that was obvious or intrusive to those visitors not
particularly interested in the radio activity. It's true that one never has
a second chance to make a good first impression.

It's something to be aware of as we choose how we operate and enjoy our
hobby, wherever we are.

Ron AC7AC


-Original Message-

I acknowledge this topic isn't appropiate for here.  Well, I -do- have a K2
built at an Oregon lighthouse  (:-)

Ron, others ...

Yes, we've been working in the park and at the lighthouse for five years and
they're well-aware that I'm an amateur radio operator.  One ranger is
slightly familiar with the hobby ... he was especially interested in the
suit-sat experiment and I've supplied him with the orbiter's down-link
frequencies for his scanner.  A fellow host is K7JJ.

I pretty confident that the park management and staff are OK with the
hobby as a whole and they do understand what lighthouse week is about. I
think they go along with the operation each year because they know if they
didn't there would be flack from the Lighthouse Society and others. On the
other hand if they didn't have to take the flack from the
visiting public because of the operation they'd be happier.   In
reality, it's us hosts who have to deal with the visitors.

My comments mostly relate to the lighthouse visitors and their impression of
the amateur radio operation/s at the lighthouse.  There's very little
opportunity to educate them about what's going on.  Most aren't at all
interested and see the operation as a visual intrusion into their photo-op
and resent the clutter of the antennas, RV's, tents, noise, etc.  Who ARE
those people? What's going on out there? Oh ... my cousin plays with
radios, too ... his handle is Stump-Jumper. Do you know him?

Most lighthouse visitors are well-aware of the history and the need to
preserve the structures and their history.  That's why they visit.  I don't
see much, if any, help with preservation by handing out contacts to QSL
collectors.  Few have any interest in lighthouses beyond getting a unique
QSL and they're unlikely to join the Lighthouse Society as a result of a
QSO.

I'd give a whole lot to be able to eleminate the word HAM from our hobby.
Most of the visitors see us as just that ...hams... those strange folks
outside on the lawn.  I detest the name.

Perhaps my view is jaded ...

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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- Original Message - 
From: Ron D'Eau Claire
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Saturday, 23 June, 2007 03:29
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Pacific Coast Lighthouses First Day of Issue
Ceremony


Well, Ken, did you step up and identify yourself as an Amateur Radio
Operator and explain how that activity helps promote an awareness of these
historic structures around the country?

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-

As a passing comment ...


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Re: [Elecraft] Good Public Relations (WAS: OT - Lighthouses and Amateurradio)

2007-06-23 Thread Ian J Maude

John Lemay wrote:

Good morning all

I'm a newcomer (just 2 days so far) to this group, and joined with the
single objective of learning more about the K3. I'm afraid lighthouse
information does nothing at all for me.
  
You should have been here a few weeks ago John, you couldn't move for K3 
postings.  So much that people were complaining about them :-)
It is sort of a quiet time at the moment as we wait for the launch and 
release of figures and manuals with anticipation.  Those of us with 
orders already in for the K3 are looking forward to the shipment 
eagerly!  This thread will soon die out.  Roll with it a bit longer and 
you will see that this is a community mailing list.  The people on here 
are great and happy to help any time.
Have you looked through the FAQ on the website for the K3?  All those 
points came out of mailing list questions, that was how busy it was.  I 
am sure you will see plenty more about it.  In the meantime, if you have 
any questions, ask away.

Welcome to the list.

72/73 Ian

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Ian J Maude G0VGS
SysOp GB7MBC DX Cluster
Member of RSGB, ARRL, GQRP
K2 #4044 | K3 #?

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Re: [Elecraft] Good Public Relations (WAS: OT - Lighthouses and Amateurradio)

2007-06-23 Thread KBG Luxford

Firstly, welcome to the group, John.

One of the downsides of joining a group of such enthusiastic people is 
that from time to time a number of us get rather carried away by a 
thread that may be interesting to us, but perhaps of little interest or 
even baffling to others.


What you will find here is an extraordinary willingness to help out 
people with problems and, largely, an absence of personal comments or 
flames.


The enthusiasm for more Elecraft products could perhaps quite accurately 
be described as a frenzy.  The K3 has been long awaited, although real 
information up to the launch date was absent.  Following the product 
announcement, the tsunami of K3 capability queries has largely subsided.


As for me, I am still building my K2.  It has been several years in the 
works, but now am girding my loins to advance its construction another 
notch.  I am not even thinking about a K3 at the moment.  My good wife 
would worry that money spent on a K3 might be better used when I am a 
little less capable and have less marbles than I have now.


73
Kevin
VK3DAP / ZL2DAP

John Lemay wrote:

Good morning all

I'm a newcomer (just 2 days so far) to this group, and joined with the
single objective of learning more about the K3. I'm afraid lighthouse
information does nothing at all for me.

Thanks

John G4ZTR


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