Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mics
I have been using a computer style headset and mic bought from a rally for about £2. Reports have been very complimentary and it even has its own volume control. I just bought another one as a spare for £1. Can't get better value than that! Graham On 19:59, paul ecker wrote: - My question is what types or brands, models are K3 owners using with the rear panel mic connection on the KIO3 panel ? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mics
I can never understand why people spend hundreds of pounds on Heil headsets and similar when inexpensive computer headsets give such good results. 73 de David G4DMP In a recent message, Graham Kimbell G3TCT g3...@lineone.net writes I have been using a computer style headset and mic bought from a rally for about £2. Reports have been very complimentary and it even has its own volume control. I just bought another one as a spare for £1. Can't get better value than that! -- + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + | David M Pratt, Kippax, Leeds. | | Website: http://www.g4dmp.co.uk | + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mics
David, Yes this is a very interesting phenomenon. Add external gazillion band equalizers, compressors, noise gates, $30 connectors, fancy mike mounting hardware et al to the mix. All to massage an under 3KHz bandwidth signal. However it isn't just the phone guys. Some CW guys spent many hundreds of dollars for a paddle. All it does is close two contacts. I suspect in both cases the point of diminishing returns is reached far earlier than these price levels. However, it is good for the economy. Like an OT said; If you want to feel your have a strong signal, turn up the monitor level. In other words, it's often an in the head game. 73 de Brian/K3KO On 8/15/2012 10:04, David Pratt wrote: I can never understand why people spend hundreds of pounds on Heil headsets and similar when inexpensive computer headsets give such good results. 73 de David G4DMP In a recent message, Graham Kimbell G3TCTg3...@lineone.net writes I have been using a computer style headset and mic bought from a rally for about £2. Reports have been very complimentary and it even has its own volume control. I just bought another one as a spare for £1. Can't get better value than that! - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2437/5201 - Release Date: 08/14/12 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mics
I'm not going to try to sell anyone on the idea of buying a premium audio chain, but... I agree the K3 provides good results with about any mic that can be attached to it. It has a good compressor, useful TX equalizer, bandwidth control and a noise gate. I have obtained good results with a Yamaha CM500 and, without processing, my Heil PR40 doesn't sound substantially different from the PR40 on the K3. But I do use audio processing on the K3 and my other transmitters, for several reasons. Probably the main reason is that I can make myself sound, within the previously noted 3 kHz bandwidth, sound casually loud: optimized intelligibility without undue harshness. My station is, as are many people's, a collection of compromises controlled primarily by where I live. This is something I can tweak, and thus I am gonna tweak it... Another factor is that I like to be able to switch TX audio properties quickly to suit operating conditions. I can switch very quickly between casually loud and best-effort pile-up busting very quickly, even as a DX station is responding to me so that I can go back to normal for the exchange. I adjust my transceivers to the rack, allowing me to switch between radios very quickly and still get the same sound from all of my transmitters. This is important as every phone transmitter I have every used has subtle (sometime not-so-subtle) differences in the way they sound on the air. Finally...I just want control over this set of parameters. I probably wouldn't make the investment if it were substantially more than what I spent, but as it is I'm very happy with the price/performance ratio. And that, at the end of the day, is what counts. I can't help but notice that this isn't the cat's whisker and carbon mic mailing list, so everyone here is making some kind of price-to-performance decision and I suggest that no-one's decisions in this hobby are un-assailable. Mike Alexander - N8MSA amsct...@comcast.net - Original Message - From: Brian Alsop als...@nc.rr.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 7:49:48 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mics David, Yes this is a very interesting phenomenon. Add external gazillion band equalizers, compressors, noise gates, $30 connectors, fancy mike mounting hardware et al to the mix. All to massage an under 3KHz bandwidth signal. However it isn't just the phone guys. Some CW guys spent many hundreds of dollars for a paddle. All it does is close two contacts. I suspect in both cases the point of diminishing returns is reached far earlier than these price levels. However, it is good for the economy. Like an OT said; If you want to feel your have a strong signal, turn up the monitor level. In other words, it's often an in the head game. 73 de Brian/K3KO On 8/15/2012 10:04, David Pratt wrote: I can never understand why people spend hundreds of pounds on Heil headsets and similar when inexpensive computer headsets give such good results. 73 de David G4DMP In a recent message, Graham Kimbell G3TCTg3...@lineone.net writes I have been using a computer style headset and mic bought from a rally for about £2. Reports have been very complimentary and it even has its own volume control. I just bought another one as a spare for £1. Can't get better value than that! - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2437/5201 - Release Date: 08/14/12 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mics
On 8/15/2012 3:04 AM, David Pratt wrote: I can never understand why people spend hundreds of pounds on Heil headsets and similar when inexpensive computer headsets give such good results. Better sound through marketing! 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mics
A Better sound through marketing! 73, Jim K9YC think about it an offshore company builds a microphone or actually buys an electret element and just stuffs it into a case... ( which could screw up the response and/or cause other issues) none of which would bother it's use in our stringent application./... So now we have a $.45 element a nice fancy cabinet/shell.. $ 3.-4 :.still NO engineering or MARKETING expense,,, a cable with a plug ( add .$70)...if a headset , add two earpieces if a headset... and tada enter cyberguys... who is selling a DCT FACTORY headset for$ 7.89. so also Amazon( newegg $19.95) go figure http://www.cyberguys.com/product-details/?productid=2427 As with all generic stuff,...once the generics hit the market, the branded stuff has to figure how to compete with the guy who may be making it for himOMG,,, generics have no 40% to market the product,,but since they will sell to anyone, the marketplace discovers it. Do we really think a yamaha factory makes that headset ??? wrongo,..they market it. I have not ordered those 8$ headsets , since i bought three generics at dayton.. I think 3 for 9$ I WAS lucky and they worked great ,at field day on k3 ...and mobile on the kx3 just make certain that you get 3.5mm plugs for both the headphone the mic,.,,, someone else can try ... bill ny9h/3 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mics - ( Heil GM5)
I already had a collection of microphones before I bought my K3. They all can be made to sound fine. I use a Heil HC4 and an old Shure 444D with no TX EQ. I do have a fancy Heil PR781 but I set the TX EQ so that it sounds pretty much like an HC4, though I think it sounds better (or maybe I just want to think that). I'm in an unfinished basement with the furnace/air conditioner just across the room. The K3's TX gate is very nice. I always use VOX. 73, Jim N7US -Original Message- I am using either a Heil GM4 or GM5 mic plugged into the K3 rear jack through a Microham Microkeyer with DB37-EL-K3R cable. The Microkeyer cable mates with the Heil GM4 and GM5 Kenwood cable with no modifications. Both mics are high impedance. However, with just the Heil Kenwood cable, the GM5 works fine in the front panel connector. My setup: Rear: CONFIG rP.H - with MIC Gain 29 VOX Gain 21 AntiVox 14 or Front panel: CONFIG - FP.H with exact same settings as above. John W8UL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mics
There are many other reasons that some people will purchase more expensive components. The cheapo computer headsets may work as well but some will buy the Heil just because. Yes two wires touched together will key your rig but some like the beauty of a high end paddle such as the Begali or the N3ZN. Nice to look at just sitting on the desk. And yes, some people have more money than good sense. 73, Tony W7GO On 8/15/2012 4:49 AM, Brian Alsop wrote: David, Yes this is a very interesting phenomenon. Add external gazillion band equalizers, compressors, noise gates, $30 connectors, fancy mike mounting hardware et al to the mix. All to massage an under 3KHz bandwidth signal. However it isn't just the phone guys. Some CW guys spent many hundreds of dollars for a paddle. All it does is close two contacts. I suspect in both cases the point of diminishing returns is reached far earlier than these price levels. However, it is good for the economy. Like an OT said; If you want to feel your have a strong signal, turn up the monitor level. In other words, it's often an in the head game. 73 de Brian/K3KO On 8/15/2012 10:04, David Pratt wrote: I can never understand why people spend hundreds of pounds on Heil headsets and similar when inexpensive computer headsets give such good results. 73 de David G4DMP In a recent message, Graham Kimbell G3TCTg3...@lineone.net writes I have been using a computer style headset and mic bought from a rally for about £2. Reports have been very complimentary and it even has its own volume control. I just bought another one as a spare for £1. Can't get better value than that! - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2437/5201 - Release Date: 08/14/12 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Mics - ( Heil GM5)
I am using either a Heil GM4 or GM5 mic plugged into the K3 rear jack through a Microham Microkeyer with DB37-EL-K3R cable. The Microkeyer cable mates with the Heil GM4 and GM5 Kenwood cable with no modifications. Both mics are high impedance. However, with just the Heil Kenwood cable, the GM5 works fine in the front panel connector. My setup: Rear: CONFIG rP.H - with MIC Gain 29 VOX Gain 21 AntiVox 14 or Front panel: CONFIG - FP.H with exact same settings as above. John W8UL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Mics
I am somewhat new to list and definitely a new K3 owner just having completed the build of #6663. I understand this may be turning over dirt that has been worked many times before - but didn't really find what I was looking for in archives. - I understand that if I want to use my exisiting Heil GM-5 or ProSetPlus I will need to use the front panel mic connection. - My question is what types or brands, models are K3 owners using with the rear panel mic connection on the KIO3 panel ? Tnx and 73 Paul kc2nyu __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mics
Yamaha CM-500 is one that gets rave reviews here but it's not my favorite mic. I just don't use the back input. On Aug 13, 2012, at 1:50 PM, paul ecker ecke...@yahoo.com wrote: I am somewhat new to list and definitely a new K3 owner just having completed the build of #6663. I understand this may be turning over dirt that has been worked many times before - but didn't really find what I was looking for in archives. - I understand that if I want to use my exisiting Heil GM-5 or ProSetPlus I will need to use the front panel mic connection. - My question is what types or brands, models are K3 owners using with the rear panel mic connection on the KIO3 panel ? Tnx and 73 Paul kc2nyu __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mics
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:50 AM, paul ecker ecke...@yahoo.com wrote: I am somewhat new to list and definitely a new K3 owner just having completed the build of #6663. I understand this may be turning over dirt that has been worked many times before - but didn't really find what I was looking for in archives. - I understand that if I want to use my exisiting Heil GM-5 or ProSetPlus I will need to use the front panel mic connection. Not necessarily. You may need to construct an adapter for the GM-5 (I don't know what sort of cable it comes with), but the ProSet Plus should work fine when connected directly to the rear-panel MIC input. 73, ~iain / N6ML __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mics
Yamaha CM500 works great. And just about anything else. If you can plug it in it'll prob work ...bill nr4c Sent from my Verizon Wireless Droid -Original message- From: paul ecker ecke...@yahoo.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Mon, Aug 13, 2012 18:50:19 GMT+00:00 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Mics I am somewhat new to list and definitely a new K3 owner just having completed the build of #6663. I understand this may be turning over dirt that has been worked many times before - but didn't really find what I was looking for in archives. - I understand that if I want to use my exisiting Heil GM-5 or ProSetPlus I will need to use the front panel mic connection. - My question is what types or brands, models are K3 owners using with the rear panel mic connection on the KIO3 panel ? Tnx and 73 Paul kc2nyu __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mics
The Pro-set Plus connects directly to the rear inputs. You don't use an adapter; you just plug the two small phone plugs directly into the appropriate back-panel jacks. On 8/13/2012 11:50 AM, paul ecker wrote: I am somewhat new to list and definitely a new K3 owner just having completed the build of #6663. I understand this may be turning over dirt that has been worked many times before - but didn't really find what I was looking for in archives. - I understand that if I want to use my exisiting Heil GM-5 or ProSetPlus I will need to use the front panel mic connection. - My question is what types or brands, models are K3 owners using with the rear panel mic connection on the KIO3 panel ? Tnx and 73 Paul kc2nyu __ -- Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mics
On 8/13/2012 11:50 AM, paul ecker wrote: My question is what types or brands, models are K3 owners using with the rear panel mic connection The Yamaha CM500 boom mic headset is VERY popular, is quite comfortable to wear, and both the mic and headphones sound great with the K3. Using TXEQ and the K3's excellent audio processing, it's quite easy to make the sound anything from full range to highly processed for competitive contesting and DX chasing, and all the settings sound really good unless you do something really dumb. :) Cost is about $45 with free shipping from amazon and several other online sources. BTW -- I'm a retired audio professional, and still own a bunch of very high quality recording and broadcast mics, but the CM500 has been my only ham mic since a neighbor ham (also and audio pro) told me about it three years ago. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mics
GM-5 works fine with the rear panel connection - you just need to make your own cable as none of the Heil cables are designed to work with a 3.5mm mono jack. The GM-5 has a 4 pin XLR - you will need to break it out like this: XLR 1 mic return 3.5mm sleeve 2 Mic hot 3.5mm tip 3 PTT RCA tip 4 PTT RCA shell The 3.5mm connects to the rear panel mic jack and the RCA connects to the rear panel PTT jack. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 8/13/2012 2:50 PM, paul ecker wrote: I am somewhat new to list and definitely a new K3 owner just having completed the build of #6663. I understand this may be turning over dirt that has been worked many times before - but didn't really find what I was looking for in archives. - I understand that if I want to use my exisiting Heil GM-5 or ProSetPlus I will need to use the front panel mic connection. - My question is what types or brands, models are K3 owners using with the rear panel mic connection on the KIO3 panel ? Tnx and 73 Paul kc2nyu __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mics
On 8/13/2012 12:02 PM, iain macdonnell - N6ML wrote: but the ProSet Plus should work fine when connected directly to the rear-panel MIC input. Mine does. The front panel mic jack is empty. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012 - www.cqp.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mics
Paul, If you want to use the K3 front panel jack with Heil mics, order their Kenwood adapter for that microphone. Most any computer microphone can be plugged into the rear panel jacks - the Yamaha CM-500 is a good choice IMHO - the earpieces are comfortable and the microphone works great. It was apparently designed to appeal to the audio pros who would use it on a computer soundcard. 73, Don W3FPR On 8/13/2012 2:50 PM, paul ecker wrote: I am somewhat new to list and definitely a new K3 owner just having completed the build of #6663. I understand this may be turning over dirt that has been worked many times before - but didn't really find what I was looking for in archives. - I understand that if I want to use my exisiting Heil GM-5 or ProSetPlus I will need to use the front panel mic connection. - My question is what types or brands, models are K3 owners using with the rear panel mic connection on the KIO3 panel ? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
