Re: [Elecraft] K3 Sub Rx idea

2009-01-31 Thread Milt, N5IA
Wayne,

The most undesireable aspect of BSET is the fact that the communication with 
the computer is interrupted.  The logging program dispays a pop-up window 
indicating lost communication if BSET is in use for more than a few seconds. 
At least that is my experience while using N1MM.

Milt, N5IA

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From: wayne burdick n...@elecraft.com

 The BSET switch *is* intended as a context swap that allows the front
 panel to control the sub receiver. It already allows control of many

 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Sub Rx idea

2009-01-31 Thread ab2tc

Hi all,

Isn't it much easier to use A/B, do your stuff and then swap back again? I
don't have the subreceiver, but I use the B VFO a lot and always use the
swap, do, swap method for everything. B SET is another button I simply never
use. Another redundant button to me is the REV button.


Milt Jensen, N5IA wrote:
 
 Wayne,
 
 The most undesireable aspect of BSET is the fact that the communication
 with 
 the computer is interrupted.  The logging program dispays a pop-up window 
 indicating lost communication if BSET is in use for more than a few
 seconds. 
 At least that is my experience while using N1MM.
 
 Milt, N5IA
 snipml
 
 


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Sub Rx idea

2009-01-31 Thread wayne burdick
I'm gradually weeding out commands that don't work in BSET mode. Until 
then, you might want to do A/B, change the setup, then A/B again.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Jan 31, 2009, at 6:40 AM, Milt, N5IA wrote:

 Wayne,

 The most undesireable aspect of BSET is the fact that the 
 communication with the computer is interrupted.  The logging program 
 dispays a pop-up window indicating lost communication if BSET is in 
 use for more than a few seconds. At least that is my experience while 
 using N1MM.

 Milt, N5IA

 - Original Message - From: wayne burdick n...@elecraft.com

 The BSET switch *is* intended as a context swap that allows the front
 panel to control the sub receiver. It already allows control of many

 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR




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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Sub Rx idea

2009-01-31 Thread Milt, N5IA
GM Wayne,

I understand A/B and the swap per AB2TC's comment.  But there are some of 
the settings which do not follow.  I know you know and will address them if 
at all possible.  It was just my dos centavos thrown into the pile.

73, and thanks de Milt, N5IA

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Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 9:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Sub Rx idea


 I'm gradually weeding out commands that don't work in BSET mode. Until
 then, you might want to do A/B, change the setup, then A/B again.

 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR


 On Jan 31, 2009, at 6:40 AM, Milt, N5IA wrote:

 Wayne,

 The most undesireable aspect of BSET is the fact that the
 communication with the computer is interrupted.  The logging program
 dispays a pop-up window indicating lost communication if BSET is in
 use for more than a few seconds. At least that is my experience while
 using N1MM.

 Milt, N5IA

 - Original Message - From: wayne burdick n...@elecraft.com

 The BSET switch *is* intended as a context swap that allows the front
 panel to control the sub receiver. It already allows control of many

 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR




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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Sub Rx idea

2009-01-31 Thread Bill W4ZV



ab2tc wrote:
 
 Another redundant button to me is the REV button.
 

You must never work DX in split pileups...else you aren't locating your RX
where the DX is listening.  If you depend on A/B to do this, you'll
inevitably transmit on top of the DX station.

73,  Bill

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Sub Rx idea

2009-01-31 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Could that have meant redundant when the KRX3 is installed?
I kinda wonder, there is the A/B button, what does REV give you that A/ 
B doesn't?
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On 31 Jan 2009, at 18:52, Bill W4ZV wrote:
 ab2tc wrote:

 Another redundant button to me is the REV button.
 You must never work DX in split pileups...else you aren't locating  
 your RX
 where the DX is listening.  If you depend on A/B to do this, you'll
 inevitably transmit on top of the DX station.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Sub Rx idea

2009-01-31 Thread Bill W4ZV



David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:
 
 Could that have meant redundant when the KRX3 is installed?
 

Possibly, but I have a KRX3 and leave my K3 in diversity continuously.  REV
still works great in split pileups with diversity on (to better copy weak DX
signals).


David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:
 
 I kinda wonder, there is the A/B button, what does REV give you that A/ 
 B doesn't?
 

The difference is that REV is momentary (as long as you hold the button) and
returns when you release it.  A/B must be toggled each time to swap TXRX
which guarantees you will eventually transmit on the DX station's frequency
when you forget to toggle.

REV can also ensure you don't accidentally bump VFO A off of the DX station. 
Tune in the DX station with VFO A, LOCK, and then use REV to set the TX on
VFO B (using the BIG knob).  You can move your TX frequency as long as REV
is depressed and VFO A stays locked on the DX station.

This is not something new.  Kenwood's TS-930S had it in the early 80s as
TF-SET and I believe Icom calls it XFC (Transmit Frequency Check).  It's
still very useful even with a KRX3 if you like to leave diversity engaged as
I do.

73,  Bill

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[Elecraft] K3 Sub Rx idea

2009-01-30 Thread Mike Scott
I have been using the K3 sub rx for a while now. 

What I would like to see is a totally interchangeable main and sub. I want
to be able to switch sub for main in a way that the sub rx is acting like
the main without a shadow of a difference. Right now if I press Sub I can
change sub rx settings but I can't change frequency for example. 

I would like to be able to operate as if the Sub were main and the Main were
Sub and vice versus perhaps by pressing a single button.

 

Mike Scott

AE6WA Tarzana, CA

K3/100 SN508

 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Sub Rx idea

2009-01-30 Thread Greg
Hmmm...  Try A/B ???

Greg

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  Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Sub Rx idea


  I have been using the K3 sub rx for a while now.

  What I would like to see is a totally interchangeable main and sub. I want
to be able to switch sub for main in a way that the sub rx is acting like
the main without a shadow of a difference. Right now if I press Sub I can
change sub rx settings but I can't change frequency for example.

  I would like to be able to operate as if the Sub were main and the Main
were Sub and vice versus perhaps by pressing a single button.



  Mike Scott

  AE6WA Tarzana, CA

  K3/100 SN508


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Sub Rx idea

2009-01-30 Thread Bill NY9H
I'm certain Eric remembers that I asked him the same thing at Dayton 
when they first showed the K3... flip all the parameters back and 
forth between the two receivers...
or something like that ...

but we will have to wait in line for more important things...for a while

bill



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I have been using the K3 sub rx for a while now.
What I would like to see is a totally interchangeable main and sub. 
I want to be able to switch sub for main in a way that the sub rx is 
acting like the main without a shadow of a difference. Right now if 
I press Sub I can change sub rx settings but I can't change 
frequency for example.
I would like to be able to operate as if the Sub were main and the 
Main were Sub and vice versus perhaps by pressing a single button.

Mike Scott
AE6WA Tarzana, CA
K3/100 SN508

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Sub Rx idea

2009-01-30 Thread wayne burdick
I believe what Mike is asking for is to have BSET mode be more 
comprehensive -- to include things like direct frequency entry and all 
of the other controls that are normally accessible only for the main 
receiver.

The BSET switch *is* intended as a context swap that allows the front 
panel to control the sub receiver. It already allows control of many 
sub receiver parameters, including the DSP controls, mode, preamp, 
attenuator, and antenna selection. As part of the sub receiver 
band-independence feature (which I'm working on right now), I'll be 
adding additional controls to BSET. I've already added BAND change and 
noise blanker control.

I hope to have a beta version of this code available within a week or 
two. It mostly works, but I have some refinement to do before I let it 
out of the lab.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


 I have been using the K3 sub rx for a while now.
 What I would like to see is a totally interchangeable main and sub.
 I want to be able to switch sub for main in a way that the sub rx is
 acting like the main without a shadow of a difference. Right now if
 I press Sub I can change sub rx settings but I can't change
 frequency for example.
 I would like to be able to operate as if the Sub were main and the
 Main were Sub and vice versus perhaps by pressing a single button.

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