Re: [Elecraft] K4 IF signal 'OUT' for external application useage

2020-09-25 Thread Edward R Cole
OK, so the only thing I do with ethernet is connect to the Internet 
via a router.


So would the K4 ethernet connect via the router using a local network 
to communicate with my computer?  I have that option to network my 
printer between multiple computers.


One related question will the ethernet permit separate IQ from main 
and sub Rx (diversity mode with separate antennas)?  I do that with 
my K3 by using both 1st IF's to two LP-Pan which create IQ baseband 
to a four-port soundcard.  I have both LP-Pan phase-locked to a 
single LO to preserve diversity reception.  The computer runs MAP65 
which takes two receiver IQ inputs.

<http://www.kl7uw.com/MAP65.htm>http://www.kl7uw.com/MAP65.htm

Just curious at this point.

73, Ed - KL7UW


Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 12:30:21 -0700
From: Wayne Burdick 
To: David Gilbert 
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 IF signal 'OUT' for external application
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IQ streaming data from the K4 will be available over Ethernet.

Wayne
N6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] K4 IF signal 'OUT' for external application useage

2020-09-24 Thread David Gilbert



VERY cool ...

Thanks es 73,
Dave   AB7E



On 9/24/2020 12:30 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

IQ streaming data from the K4 will be available over Ethernet.

Wayne
N6KR



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On Sep 24, 2020, at 12:14 PM, David Gilbert  wrote:


Except that an I/Q output would also enable the convenient use of 
other 3rd party software.  If Elecraft didn't bother to include it in 
the K4, I think that's a mistake.


Dave   AB7E



On 9/24/2020 11:58 AM, Buck wrote:
As I recall, there is an HDMI output on the back of the K4.  You can 
choose to have it display the front panel, the panadapter or both on 
an external monitor.


You won't need to use I/Q to an LP-PAN.

Buck, k4ia
Honor Roll
8BDXCC
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On 9/24/2020 2:51 PM, Brian wrote:


Looking at the recent (though long from complete) K4 guide, I don't 
see an IF OUT per se as I have in the accessory board in my K3 (or 
in fact the output I/Q  from the KX3 I can run directly into my 
sound card on the computer). Does the XVTR IF OUT suffice for this?


The reason I ask is that eventually my LP-PAN is going to die - 
hopefully not soon but I have been using it for quite some time 
now. I use the IF  out from the K3 into the LP-PAN and then into NaP3.


Now I do realize there is a panadapter on the K4 - obviously - but 
I DO enjoy (in fact pretty much need) the large computer display 
for the pana/spectrum display and DO use the NaP3 software controls 
for K3 functions on my keyboard and mouse for tuning and such.
The display on the K4 is not the same thing I don't think. Even 
with some keyboard/mouse controls native to the K4 (?) the display 
size is a deterent to me as it exists. Apologies to the company. I 
assume maybe there MIGHT be a video card OUT re. the K4 panadapter 
at some time, but that is a maybe.. and more money.


I won't be nearly the first to get a K4.. down the line probably as 
I have a K3S here and a K3 at the in-law's property. If I did get 
that 'last final rig' and it was  a K4 (Iikely as I don't have much 
in the shack since 2000 that was not Elecraft) I would, as an older 
fellow then.. want the larger visual display of the computer/IF 
out/NaP3 sort of solution.


So, do I get some IF out I can use?
tnx
Brian VE3VAW


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Re: [Elecraft] K4 IF signal 'OUT' for external application useage

2020-09-24 Thread Wayne Burdick
IQ streaming data from the K4 will be available over Ethernet. 

Wayne
N6KR



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> On Sep 24, 2020, at 12:14 PM, David Gilbert  wrote:
> 
> 
> Except that an I/Q output would also enable the convenient use of other 3rd 
> party software.  If Elecraft didn't bother to include it in the K4, I think 
> that's a mistake.
> 
> Dave   AB7E
> 
> 
> 
>> On 9/24/2020 11:58 AM, Buck wrote:
>> As I recall, there is an HDMI output on the back of the K4.  You can choose 
>> to have it display the front panel, the panadapter or both on an external 
>> monitor.
>> 
>> You won't need to use I/Q to an LP-PAN.
>> 
>> Buck, k4ia
>> Honor Roll
>> 8BDXCC
>> EasyWayHamBooks.com
> 
>> 
>>> On 9/24/2020 2:51 PM, Brian wrote:
>>> 
>>> Looking at the recent (though long from complete) K4 guide, I don't see an 
>>> IF OUT per se as I have in the accessory board in my K3 (or in fact the 
>>> output I/Q  from the KX3 I can run directly into my sound card on the 
>>> computer).   Does the XVTR IF OUT suffice for this?
>>> 
>>> The reason I ask is that eventually my LP-PAN is going to die - hopefully 
>>> not soon but I have been using it for quite some time now. I use the IF  
>>> out from the K3 into the LP-PAN and then into NaP3.
>>> 
>>> Now I do realize there is a panadapter on the K4 - obviously - but I DO 
>>> enjoy (in fact pretty much need) the large computer display for the 
>>> pana/spectrum display and DO use the NaP3 software controls for K3 
>>> functions on my keyboard and mouse for tuning and such.
>>> The display on the K4 is not the same thing I don't think. Even with some 
>>> keyboard/mouse controls native to the K4 (?) the display size is a deterent 
>>> to me as it exists.  Apologies to the company. I assume maybe there MIGHT 
>>> be a video card OUT re. the K4 panadapter at some time, but that is a 
>>> maybe.. and more money.
>>> 
>>> I won't be nearly the first to get a K4.. down the line probably as I have 
>>> a K3S here and a K3 at the in-law's property. If I did get that 'last final 
>>> rig' and it was  a K4 (Iikely as I don't have much in the shack since 2000 
>>> that was not Elecraft) I would, as an older fellow then.. want the larger 
>>> visual display of the computer/IF out/NaP3 sort of solution.
>>> 
>>> So, do I get some IF out I can use?
>>> tnx
>>> Brian VE3VAW
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 IF signal 'OUT' for external application useage

2020-09-24 Thread David Gilbert


Except that an I/Q output would also enable the convenient use of other 
3rd party software.  If Elecraft didn't bother to include it in the K4, 
I think that's a mistake.


Dave   AB7E



On 9/24/2020 11:58 AM, Buck wrote:
As I recall, there is an HDMI output on the back of the K4.  You can 
choose to have it display the front panel, the panadapter or both on 
an external monitor.


You won't need to use I/Q to an LP-PAN.

Buck, k4ia
Honor Roll
8BDXCC
EasyWayHamBooks.com




On 9/24/2020 2:51 PM, Brian wrote:


Looking at the recent (though long from complete) K4 guide, I don't 
see an IF OUT per se as I have in the accessory board in my K3 (or in 
fact the output I/Q  from the KX3 I can run directly into my sound 
card on the computer).   Does the XVTR IF OUT suffice for this?


The reason I ask is that eventually my LP-PAN is going to die - 
hopefully not soon but I have been using it for quite some time now. 
I use the IF  out from the K3 into the LP-PAN and then into NaP3.


Now I do realize there is a panadapter on the K4 - obviously - but I 
DO enjoy (in fact pretty much need) the large computer display for 
the pana/spectrum display and DO use the NaP3 software controls for 
K3 functions on my keyboard and mouse for tuning and such.
The display on the K4 is not the same thing I don't think. Even with 
some keyboard/mouse controls native to the K4 (?) the display size is 
a deterent to me as it exists.  Apologies to the company. I assume 
maybe there MIGHT be a video card OUT re. the K4 panadapter at some 
time, but that is a maybe.. and more money.


I won't be nearly the first to get a K4.. down the line probably as I 
have a K3S here and a K3 at the in-law's property. If I did get that 
'last final rig' and it was  a K4 (Iikely as I don't have much in the 
shack since 2000 that was not Elecraft) I would, as an older fellow 
then.. want the larger visual display of the computer/IF out/NaP3 
sort of solution.


So, do I get some IF out I can use?
tnx
Brian VE3VAW


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Re: [Elecraft] K4 IF signal 'OUT' for external application useage

2020-09-24 Thread Buck
As I recall, there is an HDMI output on the back of the K4.  You can 
choose to have it display the front panel, the panadapter or both on an 
external monitor.


You won't need to use I/Q to an LP-PAN.

Buck, k4ia
Honor Roll
8BDXCC
EasyWayHamBooks.com

On 9/24/2020 2:51 PM, Brian wrote:


Looking at the recent (though long from complete) K4 guide, I don't see an IF 
OUT per se as I have in the accessory board in my K3 (or in fact the output I/Q 
 from the KX3 I can run directly into my sound card on the computer).   Does 
the XVTR IF OUT suffice for this?

The reason I ask is that eventually my LP-PAN is going to die - hopefully not 
soon but I have been using it for quite some time now. I use the IF  out from 
the K3 into the LP-PAN and then into NaP3.

Now I do realize there is a panadapter on the K4 - obviously - but I DO enjoy 
(in fact pretty much need) the large computer display for the pana/spectrum 
display and DO use the NaP3 software controls for K3 functions on my keyboard 
and mouse for tuning and such.
The display on the K4 is not the same thing I don't think. Even with some 
keyboard/mouse controls native to the K4 (?) the display size is a deterent to 
me as it exists.  Apologies to the company. I assume maybe there MIGHT be a 
video card OUT re. the K4 panadapter at some time, but that is a maybe.. and 
more money.

I won't be nearly the first to get a K4.. down the line probably as I have a 
K3S here and a K3 at the in-law's property. If I did get that 'last final rig' 
and it was  a K4 (Iikely as I don't have much in the shack since 2000 that was 
not Elecraft) I would, as an older fellow then.. want the larger visual display 
of the computer/IF out/NaP3 sort of solution.

So, do I get some IF out I can use?
tnx
Brian VE3VAW

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[Elecraft] K4 IF signal 'OUT' for external application useage

2020-09-24 Thread Brian


Looking at the recent (though long from complete) K4 guide, I don't see an IF 
OUT per se as I have in the accessory board in my K3 (or in fact the output I/Q 
 from the KX3 I can run directly into my sound card on the computer).   Does 
the XVTR IF OUT suffice for this?

The reason I ask is that eventually my LP-PAN is going to die - hopefully not 
soon but I have been using it for quite some time now. I use the IF  out from 
the K3 into the LP-PAN and then into NaP3.

Now I do realize there is a panadapter on the K4 - obviously - but I DO enjoy 
(in fact pretty much need) the large computer display for the pana/spectrum 
display and DO use the NaP3 software controls for K3 functions on my keyboard 
and mouse for tuning and such.
The display on the K4 is not the same thing I don't think. Even with some 
keyboard/mouse controls native to the K4 (?) the display size is a deterent to 
me as it exists.  Apologies to the company. I assume maybe there MIGHT be a 
video card OUT re. the K4 panadapter at some time, but that is a maybe.. and 
more money.

I won't be nearly the first to get a K4.. down the line probably as I have a 
K3S here and a K3 at the in-law's property. If I did get that 'last final rig' 
and it was  a K4 (Iikely as I don't have much in the shack since 2000 that was 
not Elecraft) I would, as an older fellow then.. want the larger visual display 
of the computer/IF out/NaP3 sort of solution.

So, do I get some IF out I can use?
tnx
Brian VE3VAW

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