Re: [Elecraft] KIO3 failure mode

2022-08-25 Thread Geert Jan de Groot




Many faults occur via the station ground system.? This fault indicated a
difference in potential between the station ground and the AC Mains
ground.? In many cases, the station equipment is connected between
station ground and the AC Mains ground.?? 


I think we're seeing monthly reports of KIO3 ports being blown up by 
having it connected to a PC and creating a ground loop. I wonder why 
this keeps happening over and over.


The proper solution is to have an entry panel through which EVERYTHING 
is grounded and connected together. There have been a fair number of 
publications on this over the years.


I do wonder though, if a full galvanic isolator would also help? It 
won't replace the ground panel, but having heard the stories (followed 
by "I need the KIO3 repaired and can't get parts / Elecraft repair is 
backed up") I wonder about this measure.


How such an isolator box is powered would be another matter though. But 
I wonder who tried this?


73, Geert Jan PE1HZG

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[Elecraft] KIO3 failure mode

2022-08-24 Thread Bob McGraw
Many faults occur via the station ground system.  This fault indicated a 
difference in potential between the station ground and the AC Mains 
ground.  In many cases, the station equipment is connected between 
station ground and the AC Mains ground.   The nearby lightning strike 
produces a difference in potential between two or more grounds to which 
the station is effectively connected in series with these grounds. Thus 
the current flow is through the station equipment, even if power is off 
and antennas are disconnected.


My example:  A cow is standing under a tree during a thunder storm.  
Lightning hits the tree and the energy is dispersed through the earth in 
all directions.  Cow is connected via its 4 feet to the earth at 4 
places.   The difference in potential between the 4 connected places 
electrocutes the cow.   Lightning did NOT strike the cow.


If your station ground IS NOT BONDED to the AC Mains ground, (a) this is 
in violation of the NEC, (b) one has a high likelihood for damage in the 
event of a nearby lightning strike.


Second, each piece of equipment MUST be bonded to a common point.    
There is a difference in bonding and grounding. Station lightning 
protection and grounding is always outside of the structure, never inside.


Jim, K9YC and Ward Silver, N0AX in the ARRL book /GROUNDING AND BONDING 
for the Radio Amateur/ contains a wealth of correct information.  Use 
this information to defuse "old ham lore" regarding grounding.


73

Bob, K4TAX


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Not owning a K3, but have the KX3..and other rigs!? Perhaps 
disconnecting the antenna (before and during an electrical storm)? from the 
shack hardware makes little boards like the K103 enjoy a longer life.? Just 
suggesting.? No disrespect in this comment.
73ChuckW4MIL


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