Re: [Elecraft] KX3 digital 0ps?

[Edward R Cole]

For running the KX3 on digital modes, I bought the Rigblaster OHMIC 
on suggestion by W7GJ:
http://www.bigskyspaces.com/w7gj/KX3.htm 



Probably not make as many modification as I will just connect CW key 
to the KEY jack.  I'm not doing eme with the KX3 so need the simpler 
interface set up (only requires DTR for transmit keying).


Have not actually used it yet.  I bought it for our RV trip in 2018, 
AK to MI (11K miles R/T).


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 digital 0ps?

[Jim Rhodes]

This is a newer version of the one I have been using for years now.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076PC4VV4/ref=dp_cerb_2
It has a dedicated line in port so the level is not so touchy.  Actually
with the sound card and Elecraft USB cable it is a very simple setup. Set
the sound out level on computer settings for the USB card to something a
little less than half way, set the input (transmit) level in the software a
little under half way and adjust mic level on radio to get 4 bars of ALC
with the 5th bar just flashing. If the mic control seems too sensitive
decrease one or both of the other levels a bit more. Use the volume control
and rf gain to control the receive level from the radio. You do not want to
saturate the waterfall display but need to have enough level to show
the signals on the band. You can set the power level on the KX3 to 0.0
watts for level setting so you don't QRM anyone. Without an aftermarket
heatsink I believe the recommended power out max is 5 watts, I am
usually running the amp at 30 watts or so because when I use this setup I
am usually on the road in a motel or park with temporary antennas. I don't
like vox for keying, I know it is simple to use but so is telling the
software to key via CAT.

On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 2:46 PM Tox  wrote:

> I have a signalink I haven't used in years. For my kx3 wsjtx, I use a cheap
> usb sound dongle, and use cheaper 1/8" phono cords than I probably should,
> with small chokes of unknown mix. It works with my mbp.
>
> Scott
> AD6YT
>
> On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 12:25 PM rich hurd WC3T  wrote:
>
> > Just as a point of reference, I bought a SL and later bought "cheapie"
> > sound card dongles.   I never got the dongles to work despite repeated
> > efforts.   The SL worked every time.  I now have two.  One for home use
> and
> > one for mobile.
> >
> > On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 3:13 PM Bill Frantz 
> wrote:
> >
> > > There are 3 kinds of digital operation you might want to use:
> > > wsjt-modes (FT8, FT4 etc.), RTTY, and "Sound card modes" (PSK,
> > > Olivia etc.). The setup for all of them is similar.
> > >
> > > For sound cards (useful in all 3 kinds) a cheap USB "sound card"
> > > is all you need. I started with a SignaLink years ago, but now I
> > > have a cheapie I impulse bought from Amazon more recently for
> > > about $5. The "headphone" output will drive the Mic input of the
> > > KX3 nicely with a 3.5mm to 3.5mm stereo cable.
> > >
> > > For driving the sound card Mic input from the headphone output
> > > of the KX3, I found I needed a pad to reduce the drive. I have a
> > > 47K resistor in series with the line from the KX3 Phones jack
> > > and the tip of the plug which goes into the sound card, and a 1K
> > > resistor between the tip and the sleeve. These resistors fit in
> > > a 3.5mm plug. The values were based on what I could find in my
> > > junque box.
> > >
> > >
> > > For the wsjt-modes, it is best to have CAT control of the radio
> > > from the computer. For the KX3, the USB to 3.5mm plug used for
> > > updating the firmware is all the hardware you need. Then wsjt-x
> > > will set your radio correctly when you select the band in the software.
> > >
> > > For RTTY, if you are good with CW and a paddle, you can do the
> > > whole thing with the KX3. Depending on your computer software,
> > > you can also treat it like any other sound card mode. Or your
> > > software can depend on the KX3 encoder/decoder and use CAT
> > > commands for sending and receiving. Most people doing RTTY from
> > > a computer like to use the AFSK or FSK modes.
> > >
> > >
> > > For the other sound card modes, use DATA A, and either use the
> > > CAT interface to key the radio for transmission, or use VOX on
> > > the radio.
> > >
> > >
> > > Getting your computer software connected to these hardware
> > > interfaces depends on which OS you are using. I use a Mac, which
> > > just means selecting the correct interface in the setup menus in
> > > the programs. I have heard complaints from the Windows users
> > > that software updates make it necessary to redo these
> > > connections. I haven't tried the Linux world.
> > >
> > >
> > > Getting the sound levels set correctly is another issue, since
> > > there are frequently as many as 4 (computer program, OS, sound
> > > card, and KX3) level controls. On reception, try setting
> > > everything about the middle of the range, and then aim for the
> > > highest level that won't overload the A/D converter in your
> > > sound card. This setting is straight forward in wsjt-x.
> > >
> > > For output, again try to set everything to about the middle of
> > > the range and then set things so the ALC indicator is showing 4
> > > bars with the 5th one flashing. One gotcha is that when severely
> > > overdriven, the KX3 will show 0 signal rather than maximum, so
> > > if you're having problems, start low and work up.
> > >
> > > Good luck at Gitmo and maybe we'll see you on the air.
> > >
> > > 73 Bill AE6JV
> > >
> > > On 5/4/20 at 

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 digital 0ps?

[Tox]

I have a signalink I haven't used in years. For my kx3 wsjtx, I use a cheap
usb sound dongle, and use cheaper 1/8" phono cords than I probably should,
with small chokes of unknown mix. It works with my mbp.

Scott
AD6YT

On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 12:25 PM rich hurd WC3T  wrote:

> Just as a point of reference, I bought a SL and later bought "cheapie"
> sound card dongles.   I never got the dongles to work despite repeated
> efforts.   The SL worked every time.  I now have two.  One for home use and
> one for mobile.
>
> On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 3:13 PM Bill Frantz  wrote:
>
> > There are 3 kinds of digital operation you might want to use:
> > wsjt-modes (FT8, FT4 etc.), RTTY, and "Sound card modes" (PSK,
> > Olivia etc.). The setup for all of them is similar.
> >
> > For sound cards (useful in all 3 kinds) a cheap USB "sound card"
> > is all you need. I started with a SignaLink years ago, but now I
> > have a cheapie I impulse bought from Amazon more recently for
> > about $5. The "headphone" output will drive the Mic input of the
> > KX3 nicely with a 3.5mm to 3.5mm stereo cable.
> >
> > For driving the sound card Mic input from the headphone output
> > of the KX3, I found I needed a pad to reduce the drive. I have a
> > 47K resistor in series with the line from the KX3 Phones jack
> > and the tip of the plug which goes into the sound card, and a 1K
> > resistor between the tip and the sleeve. These resistors fit in
> > a 3.5mm plug. The values were based on what I could find in my
> > junque box.
> >
> >
> > For the wsjt-modes, it is best to have CAT control of the radio
> > from the computer. For the KX3, the USB to 3.5mm plug used for
> > updating the firmware is all the hardware you need. Then wsjt-x
> > will set your radio correctly when you select the band in the software.
> >
> > For RTTY, if you are good with CW and a paddle, you can do the
> > whole thing with the KX3. Depending on your computer software,
> > you can also treat it like any other sound card mode. Or your
> > software can depend on the KX3 encoder/decoder and use CAT
> > commands for sending and receiving. Most people doing RTTY from
> > a computer like to use the AFSK or FSK modes.
> >
> >
> > For the other sound card modes, use DATA A, and either use the
> > CAT interface to key the radio for transmission, or use VOX on
> > the radio.
> >
> >
> > Getting your computer software connected to these hardware
> > interfaces depends on which OS you are using. I use a Mac, which
> > just means selecting the correct interface in the setup menus in
> > the programs. I have heard complaints from the Windows users
> > that software updates make it necessary to redo these
> > connections. I haven't tried the Linux world.
> >
> >
> > Getting the sound levels set correctly is another issue, since
> > there are frequently as many as 4 (computer program, OS, sound
> > card, and KX3) level controls. On reception, try setting
> > everything about the middle of the range, and then aim for the
> > highest level that won't overload the A/D converter in your
> > sound card. This setting is straight forward in wsjt-x.
> >
> > For output, again try to set everything to about the middle of
> > the range and then set things so the ALC indicator is showing 4
> > bars with the 5th one flashing. One gotcha is that when severely
> > overdriven, the KX3 will show 0 signal rather than maximum, so
> > if you're having problems, start low and work up.
> >
> > Good luck at Gitmo and maybe we'll see you on the air.
> >
> > 73 Bill AE6JV
> >
> > On 5/4/20 at 12:21 PM, w1srra...@gmail.com (MIKE W1SRR) wrote:
> >
> > >so rookie question as I just got my KX3 in time for mobilization (my
> call
> > >sign will be KG4MA, wink wink)  I want to setup my KX3 for
> > FT8/FT4/JT9/JT65.
> > >
> > >Will have a brand new laptop and of course my radio what all are you
> using
> > >for sound cards and settings on the KX3 and WSJT?
> > >
> > >If all possible I would like to get a Raspberry Pi computer to lighten
> the
> > >load a bit, is that possible?
> > >
> > >Thanks in advance
> > >
> > >Future KG4MA (in mid june)
> > >Mike
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 digital 0ps?

[rich hurd WC3T]

Just as a point of reference, I bought a SL and later bought "cheapie"
sound card dongles.   I never got the dongles to work despite repeated
efforts.   The SL worked every time.  I now have two.  One for home use and
one for mobile.

On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 3:13 PM Bill Frantz  wrote:

> There are 3 kinds of digital operation you might want to use:
> wsjt-modes (FT8, FT4 etc.), RTTY, and "Sound card modes" (PSK,
> Olivia etc.). The setup for all of them is similar.
>
> For sound cards (useful in all 3 kinds) a cheap USB "sound card"
> is all you need. I started with a SignaLink years ago, but now I
> have a cheapie I impulse bought from Amazon more recently for
> about $5. The "headphone" output will drive the Mic input of the
> KX3 nicely with a 3.5mm to 3.5mm stereo cable.
>
> For driving the sound card Mic input from the headphone output
> of the KX3, I found I needed a pad to reduce the drive. I have a
> 47K resistor in series with the line from the KX3 Phones jack
> and the tip of the plug which goes into the sound card, and a 1K
> resistor between the tip and the sleeve. These resistors fit in
> a 3.5mm plug. The values were based on what I could find in my
> junque box.
>
>
> For the wsjt-modes, it is best to have CAT control of the radio
> from the computer. For the KX3, the USB to 3.5mm plug used for
> updating the firmware is all the hardware you need. Then wsjt-x
> will set your radio correctly when you select the band in the software.
>
> For RTTY, if you are good with CW and a paddle, you can do the
> whole thing with the KX3. Depending on your computer software,
> you can also treat it like any other sound card mode. Or your
> software can depend on the KX3 encoder/decoder and use CAT
> commands for sending and receiving. Most people doing RTTY from
> a computer like to use the AFSK or FSK modes.
>
>
> For the other sound card modes, use DATA A, and either use the
> CAT interface to key the radio for transmission, or use VOX on
> the radio.
>
>
> Getting your computer software connected to these hardware
> interfaces depends on which OS you are using. I use a Mac, which
> just means selecting the correct interface in the setup menus in
> the programs. I have heard complaints from the Windows users
> that software updates make it necessary to redo these
> connections. I haven't tried the Linux world.
>
>
> Getting the sound levels set correctly is another issue, since
> there are frequently as many as 4 (computer program, OS, sound
> card, and KX3) level controls. On reception, try setting
> everything about the middle of the range, and then aim for the
> highest level that won't overload the A/D converter in your
> sound card. This setting is straight forward in wsjt-x.
>
> For output, again try to set everything to about the middle of
> the range and then set things so the ALC indicator is showing 4
> bars with the 5th one flashing. One gotcha is that when severely
> overdriven, the KX3 will show 0 signal rather than maximum, so
> if you're having problems, start low and work up.
>
> Good luck at Gitmo and maybe we'll see you on the air.
>
> 73 Bill AE6JV
>
> On 5/4/20 at 12:21 PM, w1srra...@gmail.com (MIKE W1SRR) wrote:
>
> >so rookie question as I just got my KX3 in time for mobilization (my call
> >sign will be KG4MA, wink wink)  I want to setup my KX3 for
> FT8/FT4/JT9/JT65.
> >
> >Will have a brand new laptop and of course my radio what all are you using
> >for sound cards and settings on the KX3 and WSJT?
> >
> >If all possible I would like to get a Raspberry Pi computer to lighten the
> >load a bit, is that possible?
> >
> >Thanks in advance
> >
> >Future KG4MA (in mid june)
> >Mike
> ---
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> There you're
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 digital 0ps?

[Bill Frantz]

There are 3 kinds of digital operation you might want to use: 
wsjt-modes (FT8, FT4 etc.), RTTY, and "Sound card modes" (PSK, 
Olivia etc.). The setup for all of them is similar.


For sound cards (useful in all 3 kinds) a cheap USB "sound card" 
is all you need. I started with a SignaLink years ago, but now I 
have a cheapie I impulse bought from Amazon more recently for 
about $5. The "headphone" output will drive the Mic input of the 
KX3 nicely with a 3.5mm to 3.5mm stereo cable.


For driving the sound card Mic input from the headphone output 
of the KX3, I found I needed a pad to reduce the drive. I have a 
47K resistor in series with the line from the KX3 Phones jack 
and the tip of the plug which goes into the sound card, and a 1K 
resistor between the tip and the sleeve. These resistors fit in 
a 3.5mm plug. The values were based on what I could find in my 
junque box.



For the wsjt-modes, it is best to have CAT control of the radio 
from the computer. For the KX3, the USB to 3.5mm plug used for 
updating the firmware is all the hardware you need. Then wsjt-x 
will set your radio correctly when you select the band in the software.


For RTTY, if you are good with CW and a paddle, you can do the 
whole thing with the KX3. Depending on your computer software, 
you can also treat it like any other sound card mode. Or your 
software can depend on the KX3 encoder/decoder and use CAT 
commands for sending and receiving. Most people doing RTTY from 
a computer like to use the AFSK or FSK modes.



For the other sound card modes, use DATA A, and either use the 
CAT interface to key the radio for transmission, or use VOX on 
the radio.



Getting your computer software connected to these hardware 
interfaces depends on which OS you are using. I use a Mac, which 
just means selecting the correct interface in the setup menus in 
the programs. I have heard complaints from the Windows users 
that software updates make it necessary to redo these 
connections. I haven't tried the Linux world.



Getting the sound levels set correctly is another issue, since 
there are frequently as many as 4 (computer program, OS, sound 
card, and KX3) level controls. On reception, try setting 
everything about the middle of the range, and then aim for the 
highest level that won't overload the A/D converter in your 
sound card. This setting is straight forward in wsjt-x.


For output, again try to set everything to about the middle of 
the range and then set things so the ALC indicator is showing 4 
bars with the 5th one flashing. One gotcha is that when severely 
overdriven, the KX3 will show 0 signal rather than maximum, so 
if you're having problems, start low and work up.


Good luck at Gitmo and maybe we'll see you on the air.

73 Bill AE6JV

On 5/4/20 at 12:21 PM, w1srra...@gmail.com (MIKE W1SRR) wrote:


so rookie question as I just got my KX3 in time for mobilization (my call
sign will be KG4MA, wink wink)  I want to setup my KX3 for FT8/FT4/JT9/JT65.

Will have a brand new laptop and of course my radio what all are you using
for sound cards and settings on the KX3 and WSJT?

If all possible I would like to get a Raspberry Pi computer to lighten the
load a bit, is that possible?

Thanks in advance

Future KG4MA (in mid june)
Mike

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 digital 0ps?

[Gwen Patton]

Mike,

On my main PC, I use a StarTech USB sound dongle:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00F7120TQ/
On my Chromebook, I used this device:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01J7P0OGI/ but it's unavailable now.
Others have used the Sabrent USB audio dongle just fine. I have one, but I
haven't tried it because the others worked.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IRVQ0F8/

The key is that you need a USB sound dongle, and two 3.5mm TRS patch cables
to connect the dongle to your KX3's mic in and speaker out jacks. It's a
crossover connection -- the mike jack on the KX3 goes to the speaker out on
the dongle, and the speaker out on the KX3 goes to the mike in on the
dongle. If you've ever done any RS-232, it's like crossing over the TX and
RX lines. I use the shortest audio cables I can easily route, and get well
shielded ones of good quality. Don't cheap out on them and get 20 for $5
flat cable jumpers or something, get decent cables. That's to keep stray RF
from getting into your audio lines. You MIGHT have to add some clip-on
ferrites to them as well, depending on your grounding and bonding
situation, and whether or not you get RF in your shack from your antenna.
But that's a long and involved discussion that I STILL can't get through
without scratching my head.

The SignalLink will WORK...but it's basically just a very expensive
external sound dongle. The KX3 should have come with a USB to 3.5mm control
cable. That goes from the KX3 to the computer, so you can use CAT control
to key the radio. (Some people just use the VOX setting and skip the USB
interface cable. I use CAT because it works with my other programs better.)

Does that make any sense? I think I'm rambling a little...

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
73,
Gwen, NG3P


On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 1:18 PM Barry  wrote:

> Mike,
>  The simplest way I discovered was to use a SignaLink USB with the
> cable for the KX3. I also use VOX in digital modes to key the
> transmitter. That means you connect your computer to the SignaLink, and
> using just the one cable, connect the SignaLink to the radio. You're
> basically in business. Set your software to the external sound card and
> start to operate.
>
> 73,
> Barry
> K3NDM
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "MIKE W1SRR" 
> To: "Elecraft Reflector" 
> Sent: 5/4/2020 12:21:10 PM
> Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 digital 0ps?
>
> >so rookie question as I just got my KX3 in time for mobilization (my call
> >sign will be KG4MA, wink wink)  I want to setup my KX3 for
> FT8/FT4/JT9/JT65.
> >
> >Will have a brand new laptop and of course my radio what all are you using
> >for sound cards and settings on the KX3 and WSJT?
> >
> >If all possible I would like to get a Raspberry Pi computer to lighten the
> >load a bit, is that possible?
> >
> >Thanks in advance
> >
> >Future KG4MA (in mid june)
> >Mike
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 digital 0ps?

[Barry]

Mike,
The simplest way I discovered was to use a SignaLink USB with the 
cable for the KX3. I also use VOX in digital modes to key the 
transmitter. That means you connect your computer to the SignaLink, and 
using just the one cable, connect the SignaLink to the radio. You're 
basically in business. Set your software to the external sound card and 
start to operate.


73,
Barry
K3NDM

-- Original Message --
From: "MIKE W1SRR" 
To: "Elecraft Reflector" 
Sent: 5/4/2020 12:21:10 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 digital 0ps?


so rookie question as I just got my KX3 in time for mobilization (my call
sign will be KG4MA, wink wink)  I want to setup my KX3 for FT8/FT4/JT9/JT65.

Will have a brand new laptop and of course my radio what all are you using
for sound cards and settings on the KX3 and WSJT?

If all possible I would like to get a Raspberry Pi computer to lighten the
load a bit, is that possible?

Thanks in advance

Future KG4MA (in mid june)
Mike


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[Elecraft] KX3 digital 0ps?

[MIKE W1SRR]

so rookie question as I just got my KX3 in time for mobilization (my call
sign will be KG4MA, wink wink)  I want to setup my KX3 for FT8/FT4/JT9/JT65.

Will have a brand new laptop and of course my radio what all are you using
for sound cards and settings on the KX3 and WSJT?

If all possible I would like to get a Raspberry Pi computer to lighten the
load a bit, is that possible?

Thanks in advance

Future KG4MA (in mid june)
Mike



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