Re: [Elecraft] Loading Old Configuration Into New K3S
I had earlier asked about using my config from my K3 and transferring it to my new K3s and was told it was not possible with the software available & not advised anyway because of the reasons already cited in this thread. Since I knew I had many options selected in my K3 and wanted them in my K3s and... knowing my memory isn't perfect, I thought about videotaping me going through all the configuration settings and then playing back the video in slow motion to change what I needed to in the K3s. I decided my better bet was to make a list of all the settings and keep that in my file for when I need to review things. When I received the K3s I went down the list, making changes where I saw fit. It took maybe an hour to write down everything but once that hour was over I didn't give a future thought to other ways of doing it. Its easy to do & hard copy is good. Took maybe 20 minutes to make the changes in the K3s. 73, Gary KA1J __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Loading Old Configuration Into New K3S
HiYou export all the settings of the radio to a file. This includes all menu and tech mode commands as well as the current mode specific parameters except those that are hardware specific such as offset of filters, etc.You can then import this file into another k3 or the same one just for different purposes. It does not touch the factory Config file which is different. That Is managed with the elecraft utility.73 Tom Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. Original message From: brian Date: 2016-04-17 1:37 PM (GMT-05:00) To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Loading Old Configuration Into New K3S Correct me if I am wrong. Trial version is free after that it is $50. It appears that it is a parameter at a time import/export (???). Trying to make myself clear. The utility I am after: 1) Reads old rig configuration or configuration file 2) Reads new rig configuration from the factory settings. Creates an import configuration file the utility can import for (2) given the data collected in 1 and 2 above. Rereads the new rig configuration. Generates an output detailing the difference between the old and newly configured rig. 73 de Brian/K3KO On 4/17/2016 17:23 PM, tomb18 wrote: > HiWhat you are asking is available in Win4K3Suite. You can export all non > serial number specific parameters and import them as well as the current > model related parameters.It's been there for a year or so.73 Tom > > > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. Original message > From: Vic Rosenthal Date: 2016-04-17 1:06 AM > (GMT-05:00) To: Bill Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Loading Old Configuration Into New K3S > What would be useful would be a program or a function of the K3 utility that > would pull out the nonspecific information from a configuration backup and > restore only that. > > In fact, if I were the author of the K3 utility, I would check serial > numbers, and if they are different ask the user if he wants to restore the > settings that are not rig-dependent. > > Vic 4X6GP > >> On 16 Apr 2016, at 4:15 PM, Bill wrote: >> >> Thank you Walter for the explanation. Now I understand why it cannot be done. >> >> Bill W2BLC K-Line >> >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to k2vco@gmail.com > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to tom...@videotron.ca > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to als...@comcast.net > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to tom...@videotron.ca __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Loading Old Configuration Into New K3S
Correct me if I am wrong. Trial version is free after that it is $50. It appears that it is a parameter at a time import/export (???). Trying to make myself clear. The utility I am after: 1) Reads old rig configuration or configuration file 2) Reads new rig configuration from the factory settings. Creates an import configuration file the utility can import for (2) given the data collected in 1 and 2 above. Rereads the new rig configuration. Generates an output detailing the difference between the old and newly configured rig. 73 de Brian/K3KO On 4/17/2016 17:23 PM, tomb18 wrote: HiWhat you are asking is available in Win4K3Suite. You can export all non serial number specific parameters and import them as well as the current model related parameters.It's been there for a year or so.73 Tom Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. Original message From: Vic Rosenthal Date: 2016-04-17 1:06 AM (GMT-05:00) To: Bill Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Loading Old Configuration Into New K3S What would be useful would be a program or a function of the K3 utility that would pull out the nonspecific information from a configuration backup and restore only that. In fact, if I were the author of the K3 utility, I would check serial numbers, and if they are different ask the user if he wants to restore the settings that are not rig-dependent. Vic 4X6GP On 16 Apr 2016, at 4:15 PM, Bill wrote: Thank you Walter for the explanation. Now I understand why it cannot be done. Bill W2BLC K-Line __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k2vco@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to tom...@videotron.ca __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to als...@comcast.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Loading Old Configuration Into New K3S
HiWhat you are asking is available in Win4K3Suite. You can export all non serial number specific parameters and import them as well as the current model related parameters.It's been there for a year or so.73 Tom Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. Original message From: Vic Rosenthal Date: 2016-04-17 1:06 AM (GMT-05:00) To: Bill Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Loading Old Configuration Into New K3S What would be useful would be a program or a function of the K3 utility that would pull out the nonspecific information from a configuration backup and restore only that. In fact, if I were the author of the K3 utility, I would check serial numbers, and if they are different ask the user if he wants to restore the settings that are not rig-dependent. Vic 4X6GP > On 16 Apr 2016, at 4:15 PM, Bill wrote: > > Thank you Walter for the explanation. Now I understand why it cannot be done. > > Bill W2BLC K-Line > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k2vco@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to tom...@videotron.ca __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Loading Old Configuration Into New K3S
Everybody is making arguments for why it can't be done. I'd like to hear arguments for why it can be done. Clearly someone (Elecraft and perhaps others) knows enough about the K3 and K3S differences and various permutations to do this. Remember when one had to configure xtal filters manually and do TX/RX calibrations manually. It was a real pain. Those features were automated. Several months ago I spent a couple weeks trying to make a newer K3 (different serial number of course) have the same parameters as an older K3. I'm not sure it's done yet. Going from a K3 to K3s would probably take as long or longer. This process would start with a dump of the older rig's configuration parameters. I don't think it's asking too much to make such a program available. (Yes guys have alluded to some non-free programs which proportedly do this. Not about to pay..) When one is done with configuring the new rig than dump that too. Some kind of automatic comparison program for the two files would be nice too. 73 de Brian/K3KO On 4/17/2016 14:16 PM, Kevin Stover wrote: People want to reduce the amount of button pushing to a minimum. Remember when your rig was new and how long it took to get the settings the way you wanted? Buy a used K3 or a new K3s and it takes some time to set it up like you like it. I absolutely hate swapping CD's and DVD's loading software on a new PC. Norton Ghost was the best thing since sliced bread (RIP). Add some software to the computer...make a new image of the hard drive. Hard drive needs replaced for whatever reason, and it's the component most likely to fail, load the image, operating system and all, on the new drive in about 20 minutes. If I tried that on a new PC with different hardware, processor, video cards, sound cards, Ethernet cards it would fail miserably and I'd find myself in driver hell. Since there is a difference between configuration and factory alignment data on the K3(s) maybe a utility within a utility just for alignment data. This would only work if both new and old rigs are physically configured identically. How do you load config data which contains information about the second receiver when there is no second receiver? On 4/17/2016 2:03 AM, Gary wrote: I kinda like the way it is and this is my thoughts: If I had 2 K3's (any vintage) and I was to check my setup, what if both are not identical?, maybe one has a second rcvr and may different filters? Having 2 utilities on my PC would not bother me. If I have separate PC's for each, then again I see no problem. I rarely use the utility these days, when I do, I save a config copy. Again if I had 2 K3's, I don't see an advantage in being able to copy from one trcvr to anotheri can see where I could make a mistake and mess things up though. So can somebody please explain to me what I may be missing or perhaps an example of how I could benefit from what is being discussed. Sadly as I get older I seem to be getting slower...:-) Gary __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Loading Old Configuration Into New K3S
People want to reduce the amount of button pushing to a minimum. Remember when your rig was new and how long it took to get the settings the way you wanted? Buy a used K3 or a new K3s and it takes some time to set it up like you like it. I absolutely hate swapping CD's and DVD's loading software on a new PC. Norton Ghost was the best thing since sliced bread (RIP). Add some software to the computer...make a new image of the hard drive. Hard drive needs replaced for whatever reason, and it's the component most likely to fail, load the image, operating system and all, on the new drive in about 20 minutes. If I tried that on a new PC with different hardware, processor, video cards, sound cards, Ethernet cards it would fail miserably and I'd find myself in driver hell. Since there is a difference between configuration and factory alignment data on the K3(s) maybe a utility within a utility just for alignment data. This would only work if both new and old rigs are physically configured identically. How do you load config data which contains information about the second receiver when there is no second receiver? On 4/17/2016 2:03 AM, Gary wrote: I kinda like the way it is and this is my thoughts: If I had 2 K3's (any vintage) and I was to check my setup, what if both are not identical?, maybe one has a second rcvr and may different filters? Having 2 utilities on my PC would not bother me. If I have separate PC's for each, then again I see no problem. I rarely use the utility these days, when I do, I save a config copy. Again if I had 2 K3's, I don't see an advantage in being able to copy from one trcvr to anotheri can see where I could make a mistake and mess things up though. So can somebody please explain to me what I may be missing or perhaps an example of how I could benefit from what is being discussed. Sadly as I get older I seem to be getting slower...:-) Gary -- R. Kevin Stover AC0H ARRL FISTS #11993 SKCC #215 NAQCC #3441 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Loading Old Configuration Into New K3S
I kinda like the way it is and this is my thoughts: If I had 2 K3's (any vintage) and I was to check my setup, what if both are not identical?, maybe one has a second rcvr and may different filters? Having 2 utilities on my PC would not bother me. If I have separate PC's for each, then again I see no problem. I rarely use the utility these days, when I do, I save a config copy. Again if I had 2 K3's, I don't see an advantage in being able to copy from one trcvr to anotheri can see where I could make a mistake and mess things up though. So can somebody please explain to me what I may be missing or perhaps an example of how I could benefit from what is being discussed. Sadly as I get older I seem to be getting slower...:-) Gary -Original Message- From: "Vic Rosenthal" Sent: 17/04/2016 3:05 PM To: "Bill" Cc: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Loading Old Configuration Into New K3S What would be useful would be a program or a function of the K3 utility that would pull out the nonspecific information from a configuration backup and restore only that. In fact, if I were the author of the K3 utility, I would check serial numbers, and if they are different ask the user if he wants to restore the settings that are not rig-dependent. Vic 4X6GP > On 16 Apr 2016, at 4:15 PM, Bill wrote: > > Thank you Walter for the explanation. Now I understand why it cannot be done. > > Bill W2BLC K-Line > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k2vco@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to vk1zzg...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Loading Old Configuration Into New K3S
What would be useful would be a program or a function of the K3 utility that would pull out the nonspecific information from a configuration backup and restore only that. In fact, if I were the author of the K3 utility, I would check serial numbers, and if they are different ask the user if he wants to restore the settings that are not rig-dependent. Vic 4X6GP > On 16 Apr 2016, at 4:15 PM, Bill wrote: > > Thank you Walter for the explanation. Now I understand why it cannot be done. > > Bill W2BLC K-Line > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k2vco@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Loading Old Configuration Into New K3S
Thank you Walter for the explanation. Now I understand why it cannot be done. Bill W2BLC K-Line __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Loading Old Configuration Into New K3S
The configuration includes all the calibration data that is specific to each radio. If you loaded another radio’s config, you would need to do all the calibration over again. That seems like a very good reason to me. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Apr 15, 2016, at 4:59 PM, Nr4c wrote: > > NO. FOR GOOD REASON. > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > > >> On Apr 15, 2016, at 7:12 PM, Merle Bone wrote: >> >> I tried to load my current K3 configuration into my new K3S and got an >> error message saying the serial number did not match. Is there >> a reasonable way to load an older K3 configuration into a new >> K3S? >> Thanks, >> Merle - W0EWM >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to n...@widomaker.com > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wun...@wunderwood.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Loading Old Configuration Into New K3S
NO. FOR GOOD REASON. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Apr 15, 2016, at 7:12 PM, Merle Bone wrote: > > I tried to load my current K3 configuration into my new K3S and got an > error message saying the serial number did not match. Is there > a reasonable way to load an older K3 configuration into a new > K3S? > Thanks, > Merle - W0EWM > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n...@widomaker.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Loading Old Configuration Into New K3S
I tried to load my current K3 configuration into my new K3S and got an error message saying the serial number did not match. Is there a reasonable way to load an older K3 configuration into a new K3S? Thanks, Merle - W0EWM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
