[Elecraft] "SOLD".......SALE......Elecraft Macro Programming Manual. 175 Pages.

[KJ]

Thanks to Doug for the rapid sale!!
Ken

Hi all,
I have a like new, "Elecraft Macro Programming Manual." 175 pages by Fred Cady 
- KE7X.
For the K3s, K3, KX3 and P3/SVGA, PX3 and K-Pod.
Came with a used KX3 I purchased. A great manual for the right person.
$22.00 shipped, CONUS
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[Elecraft] SALE......Elecraft Macro Programming Manual. 175 Pages.

[KJ]

Hi all,
I have a like new, "Elecraft Macro Programming Manual." 175 pages by Fred Cady 
- KE7X.
For the K3s, K3, KX3 and P3/SVGA, PX3 and K-Pod.
Came with a used KX3 I purchased. A great manual for the right person.
$22.00 shipped, CONUS
Thanks, Ken, W2GIW



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Re: [Elecraft] ELECRAFT MACRO PROGRAMMING BOOK BY FRED CADY

[Clay Autery]

Yep  I've used Office Depot and Office Max many times to do just that.

73,

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On 10/09/20 16:14, George Danner wrote:

Clay,
When I was traveling, we would send the document (PDF) to the local 
Kinko which is now FEDEX.
They would print the document, make a cover and back page and then 
spiral bound it.
Generally it was 10 to 25 copies depending on the group we were 
presenting it to.
We found this easier than ordering through our print shop and then 
carrying 25 copies of a 25 to 50 page document on a plane.

Might try a local equivalent to Kinko (FEDEX).

73
George  AI4VZ


On 10/09/20 14:26, w4sc wrote:
> I just was on chat with LuLu.  They will NOT print the pdf
offered, unless you are the author.  They understood the desire to
have a hard copy.
>
> Ben W4SC
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Re: [Elecraft] ELECRAFT MACRO PROGRAMMING BOOK BY FRED CADY

[George Danner]

Clay,
When I was traveling, we would send the document (PDF) to the local Kinko
which is now FEDEX.
They would print the document, make a cover and back page and then
spiral bound it.
Generally it was 10 to 25 copies depending on the group we were presenting
it to.
We found this easier than ordering through our print shop and then
carrying 25 copies of a 25 to 50 page document on a plane.
Might try a local equivalent to Kinko (FEDEX).

73
George  AI4VZ


> On 10/09/20 14:26, w4sc wrote:
> > I just was on chat with LuLu.  They will NOT print the pdf offered,
> unless you are the author.  They understood the desire to have a hard copy.
> >
> > Ben W4SC
> >
>
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Re: [Elecraft] ELECRAFT MACRO PROGRAMMING BOOK BY FRED CADY

[Clay Autery]

Dude  just print it yourself on your chosen paper stock.  You can 
spiral bind it yourself at OfficeMax, et al.  OR you can send it off and 
have it bound.

Or just punch holes and put it in a folder or a notebook.

I have a FULL set of the latest Elecraft docs, et al. including ALL my 
Cady books printed and in notebooks for flat, easy reference.


Practice on a small, multi-page doc to get your printer settings 
optimized  I print best quality, two-sided, standard paper... Works 
great!


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On 10/09/20 14:26, w4sc wrote:

I just was on chat with LuLu.  They will NOT print the pdf offered, unless you 
are the author.  They understood the desire to have a hard copy.

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Re: [Elecraft] ELECRAFT MACRO PROGRAMMING BOOK BY FRED CADY

[w4sc]

I just was on chat with LuLu.  They will NOT print the pdf offered, unless you 
are the author.  They understood the desire to have a hard copy.

Ben W4SC



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Re: [Elecraft] ELECRAFT MACRO PROGRAMMING BOOK BY FRED CADY

[K5ENL]

Thank you -- I will try to get Lulu to print my PDF for me. If they won't
then perhaps Copy Corner -- 



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Re: [Elecraft] ELECRAFT MACRO PROGRAMMING BOOK BY FRED CADY

[K5ENL]

Thanks for the suggestion - I will try that..



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Re: [Elecraft] ELECRAFT MACRO PROGRAMMING BOOK BY FRED CADY

[w4sc]

You may want to check with Lulu.com

They may print you 1 copy for your use, which is allowed under US copyright 
law…. For an extra charge of course.  I believe the procedure would be purchase 
the pdf, download it, the submit it through their web site tool for on demand 
printing…

 I was looking for the last version of the Cady K3S P3 book and purchased the 
pdf, but the found a printed copy, which I purchased.  I want a 
macro-programming book also, and may try what I have outlined above.

Ben
W4SC


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Re: [Elecraft] ELECRAFT MACRO PROGRAMMING BOOK BY FRED CADY

[Mike Flowers]

And if you choose spiral bound printer stock, then your printed book will lay 
flat on the desk.

Pre-Punched Cut Sheets, 44 Hole Spiral, 20 lb., White

- 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, NCDXC Secretary

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Re: [Elecraft] ELECRAFT MACRO PROGRAMMING BOOK BY FRED CADY

[hawley, charles j jr]

You’re allowed to print a copy for your own use. I prefer the print too.

Chuck Jack Hawley 
KE9UW

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[Elecraft] ELECRAFT MACRO PROGRAMMING BOOK BY FRED CADY

[K5ENL]

Not sure if this is the correct place to post this - I apologize if it isn't
== I know the Macro Programming Book is available in PDF and have it but I
would prefer a printed copy if anyone has one they would be willing to part
with.

Thank you

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[Elecraft] Macro Naming in PX3

[Grant Youngman]

The PX3 Utility has a field for naming macros.  I put macros for the KX3 in the 
PX3.  Everything works fine.

But … if there is a way to get the macro name entered in the Utility to show up 
in the PX3 function buttons, I can’t find it.  So I just have to remember which 
button on the PX3 does what — and I’m old and memory challenged :-)

Is that the way it is?  Or have I missed something obvious somewhere?  Is there 
a way to change the button descriptor?

Thanks ..

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[Elecraft] Macro to change Serial from RS232 39400 to USB and back...

[Gerry Hull]

Hey folks,

This is a technical one where I'm not sure of the correct macro.

Situation:

K3s, Remote via RRC 1258, using the serial connection.
However, we want an alternate remote that is supported by N1MM on the
desktop.

Therefore, I want to be able to switch between USB and RS-232 ports for rig
control.

When on the Remote, I can just use the K3/0 menu to switch to USB, at which
time I'll
lose rig control.

Then, using Anydesk/Teamviewer/etc ... I can connect N1MM on the remote PC
and play radio over the USB port.

However, I won't have a way to set the rig back to RS-232 38400 to use
RemoteRig again...

Solution?

However, there seems to be the RS232 MN057; macro, which gets you to the
RS232 menu setting.  I'm just looking for the right sequence to go either
direction; obviously, I'll need to be connected on the right port to move
control back

And... I'll only test this when I'm local in the station! :-)

Any help appreciated.

73,

Gerry W1VE
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[Elecraft] Macro programming odditys

[Kurt Theis]

In addition to my prior question, I've noticed an oddity when using macros,
and wonder if anyone has a resolution:

When I recall frequency/mode data from a channel, sometimes (but not
always) the cwt indicator will pop up. Also every now and then rit will
turn on.  Neither of these seem to be related to any particular band,  mode
or channel number.

My installed firmware is 5.14 for the MCU, 1.19 for the FPF and 2.83 for
the DSP1. My K3 serial is 89xx.

Anyone see this or have any hints to a resolution?

Kurt WA6YDQ



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[Elecraft] Macro to save freq to memory

[Kurt Theis]

Greetings list:

I'm writing some macros for the K3. One that I need is to save the current
VFO A and VFO B to channel 99. I'm using the following:
SWT15;MC099;SWT15;

It works,  but when using the command tester of the k3 utility I receive a
?; after the command is sent,  which the programmer reference says is an
error.

Should I ignore the error? Anyone have a working example? Is there a better
way?

Kurt Theis WA6YDQ

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Re: [Elecraft] Macro for exchanging VFO A&B frequencies...

[Nr4c]

You mean like swapping VFO as in the “A/B” button?

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> On Jul 22, 2018, at 2:53 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> 
> John,
> 
> Why not use "SWT11;" to tap the A/B button in firmware?
> 
> Every switch on the K3 can be accessed by the SWT/SWH command.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
>> On 7/22/2018 2:40 PM, John Altman wrote:
>> Does anyone happen to have the macro for “exchanging” VFO A & B frequencies?
>> NOT “moving” A>B or B>A, but, exchanging frequencies back and forth between 
>> the two.
>> Tks for your assistance.
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Re: [Elecraft] Macro for exchanging VFO A&B frequencies...

[John Altman]

Don,

Tks for your reply.

Want to add to the K-Pod Macros.  Had not thought of the SWT/SWH command!.

Regards,

John
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> On Jul 22, 2018, at 1:53 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> 
> John,
> 
> Why not use "SWT11;" to tap the A/B button in firmware?
> 
> Every switch on the K3 can be accessed by the SWT/SWH command.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
>> On 7/22/2018 2:40 PM, John Altman wrote:
>> Does anyone happen to have the macro for “exchanging” VFO A & B frequencies?
>> NOT “moving” A>B or B>A, but, exchanging frequencies back and forth between 
>> the two.
>> Tks for your assistance.
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Re: [Elecraft] Macro for exchanging VFO A&B frequencies...

[Don Wilhelm]

John,

Why not use "SWT11;" to tap the A/B button in firmware?

Every switch on the K3 can be accessed by the SWT/SWH command.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/22/2018 2:40 PM, John Altman wrote:

Does anyone happen to have the macro for “exchanging” VFO A & B frequencies?

NOT “moving” A>B or B>A, but, exchanging frequencies back and forth between the 
two.

Tks for your assistance.

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[Elecraft] Macro for exchanging VFO A&B frequencies...

[John Altman]

Does anyone happen to have the macro for “exchanging” VFO A & B frequencies?

NOT “moving” A>B or B>A, but, exchanging frequencies back and forth between the 
two.

Tks for your assistance.

John
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Re: [Elecraft] Macro for K3/K3s and FT8?

[Dave Cole (NK7Z)]

Hi,
I have a short blog post on adding an external control keypad to the K3 at:

http://nk7z.net/adding-external-keypad-k3/

About halfway down is a link to the CP48_Master-Spreadsheet, which is a 
spreadsheet where I keep about 20 macros.


There is also Fred Cady's  book, "Elecraft Macro Programming", which in 
addition to being the best reference on Elecraft macros, has a lot of 
finished examples.



73s and thanks,
Dave
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On 01/29/2018 01:45 PM, Brian Moran via Elecraft wrote:

When plucking a particular station out on FT8, something that would be useful 
in the increasingly crowded segment conditions would be to have the radio's 
filters narrow the passband to just a particular width at a particular 
frequency (and then go back to a much wider bandwidth at particular times).

I see that the IS and FW (or BW, recommended by the K3 programmer's manual) can 
do this -- has anyone developed a macro like this for this application?

Example: FT8 on 20m uses the dial frequency of 14074.00, USB. If I'm trying to 
hear a station at 1800Hz, I'd like to narrow my RX passband to be between 
14075.77 and 14076.10 (ft8 bw is 50Hz). But also want to go back to a 2.4 kHz 
bandwidth.  I might also want to transmit outside the parameters of my RX 
passband, e.g. in this example, I might transmit tones from 800-850 Hz.


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[Elecraft] Macro for K3/K3s and FT8?

[Brian Moran via Elecraft]

When plucking a particular station out on FT8, something that would be useful 
in the increasingly crowded segment conditions would be to have the radio's 
filters narrow the passband to just a particular width at a particular 
frequency (and then go back to a much wider bandwidth at particular times).

I see that the IS and FW (or BW, recommended by the K3 programmer's manual) can 
do this -- has anyone developed a macro like this for this application?

Example: FT8 on 20m uses the dial frequency of 14074.00, USB. If I'm trying to 
hear a station at 1800Hz, I'd like to narrow my RX passband to be between 
14075.77 and 14076.10 (ft8 bw is 50Hz). But also want to go back to a 2.4 kHz 
bandwidth.  I might also want to transmit outside the parameters of my RX 
passband, e.g. in this example, I might transmit tones from 800-850 Hz. 


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Re: [Elecraft] Macro for setup of K3S for WSJT

[Bob McGraw K4TAX]

As to bandwidth for RX, since the transmit data is limited in bandwidth 
to the SSB bandwidth, I see no need to have the receiver BW any wider 
than the TX bandwidth.  Also, the RX low end likely doesn't need to be 
any lower than the TX bandwidth low end roll off.  Of course if you have 
SPLIT selected in the software then the TX can effectively operate lower 
by shifting the VFO accordingly.


73

Bob, K4TAX


On 12/13/2017 2:30 PM, RIchard Williams via Elecraft wrote:

Bill,
Thanks for info; you know, I did not know about switching to Data A switches 
the input to line in.
I have a AM filter, but am not sure with band with FT8 uses, what advantage a 
wider filter  than the stock SSB filter has.
Dick,  K8ZTT

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   On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 23:09, Bill Frantz wrote:   My experience is that if you set wsjt-x to use rig control, just

starting to monitor does most of the work. I end up in Data-A
mode. This automatically sets the mic sel to Link In. I already
have a macro to open up the bandwidth, which automatically sets
the filter to my FM filter. My macro for bandwidth is :

   IS 1450;BW0230;

Note that this macro doesn't open up the bandwidth to the full
4K, which I do by turning the knobs. The K3 remembers the last
bandwidth I used, so I don't have to manually change it very often.

I hope this helps.

73 Bill AE6JV

On 12/13/17 at 8:58 PM, elecraft@mailman.qth.net (RIchard
Williams via Elecraft) wrote:


Before I beat my head against the wall (or re-invent the
wheel); does someone have a micro to setup the K3S (or K3) for
WSJT-X.  What I am looking for is:
  1.  Set the mode to TX Data
2.  Set mic sel to Line In
3.  Set the filter to FL2 (2.7 KHz in my case)
4.  Open up the pass band width to max
I think that is it; but I might have missed something??
Thanks,
Dick, K8ZTT

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Re: [Elecraft] Macro for setup of K3S for WSJT

[Don Wilhelm]

Dick,

While it is true that the input *can* be Line In for DATA A - it is not 
the default (like on a Factory new K3 or K3S, when you first go to DATA 
A mode you must use the MIC SEL to set it to LINE.  After doing that, it 
will be 'sticky'.


FT8 uses a very wide bandwidth (if available), and using the 13kHz 
filter, you can stretch the K3/K3S bandwidth to 4kHz.  The bandwidth is 
limited to 4kHz because there is a low pass filter that takes away the 
high frequency hiss and noise that is present on the bands, and several 
hams find quite objectionable when listening to it for a significant 
period of time.


While that high frequency "crud" is not a problem for digital modes, 
there is not a way to turn off the LPF.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/13/2017 3:30 PM, RIchard Williams via Elecraft wrote:

Bill,
Thanks for info; you know, I did not know about switching to Data A switches 
the input to line in.
I have a AM filter, but am not sure with band with FT8 uses, what advantage a 
wider filter  than the stock SSB filter has.
Dick,  K8ZTT

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   On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 23:09, Bill Frantz wrote:   My experience is that if you set wsjt-x to use rig control, just

starting to monitor does most of the work. I end up in Data-A
mode. This automatically sets the mic sel to Link In. I already
have a macro to open up the bandwidth, which automatically sets
the filter to my FM filter. My macro for bandwidth is :

   IS 1450;BW0230;

Note that this macro doesn't open up the bandwidth to the full
4K, which I do by turning the knobs. The K3 remembers the last
bandwidth I used, so I don't have to manually change it very often.

I hope this helps.

73 Bill AE6JV

On 12/13/17 at 8:58 PM, elecraft@mailman.qth.net (RIchard
Williams via Elecraft) wrote:


Before I beat my head against the wall (or re-invent the
wheel); does someone have a micro to setup the K3S (or K3) for
WSJT-X.  What I am looking for is:
  1.  Set the mode to TX Data
2.  Set mic sel to Line In
3.  Set the filter to FL2 (2.7 KHz in my case)
4.  Open up the pass band width to max
I think that is it; but I might have missed something??
Thanks,
Dick, K8ZTT


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Re: [Elecraft] Macro for setup of K3S for WSJT

[RIchard Williams via Elecraft]

Bill,
Thanks for info; you know, I did not know about switching to Data A switches 
the input to line in.
I have a AM filter, but am not sure with band with FT8 uses, what advantage a 
wider filter  than the stock SSB filter has.
Dick,  K8ZTT 

Sent from Yahoo Mail ohave an Android 
 
  On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 23:09, Bill Frantz wrote:   My 
experience is that if you set wsjt-x to use rig control, just 
starting to monitor does most of the work. I end up in Data-A 
mode. This automatically sets the mic sel to Link In. I already 
have a macro to open up the bandwidth, which automatically sets 
the filter to my FM filter. My macro for bandwidth is :

  IS 1450;BW0230;

Note that this macro doesn't open up the bandwidth to the full 
4K, which I do by turning the knobs. The K3 remembers the last 
bandwidth I used, so I don't have to manually change it very often.

I hope this helps.

73 Bill AE6JV

On 12/13/17 at 8:58 PM, elecraft@mailman.qth.net (RIchard 
Williams via Elecraft) wrote:

>Before I beat my head against the wall (or re-invent the 
>wheel); does someone have a micro to setup the K3S (or K3) for 
>WSJT-X.  What I am looking for is:
> 1.  Set the mode to TX Data
>2.  Set mic sel to Line In
>3.  Set the filter to FL2 (2.7 KHz in my case)
>4.  Open up the pass band width to max
>I think that is it; but I might have missed something??
>Thanks,
>Dick, K8ZTT

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Re: [Elecraft] Macro for setup of K3S for WSJT

[Bob McGraw K4TAX]

I find that WSJT and the radio configured for DATA does not need any 
macro to accomplish this feat.


73

Bob, K4TAX


On 12/12/2017 10:58 PM, RIchard Williams via Elecraft wrote:

Before I beat my head against the wall (or re-invent the wheel); does someone 
have a micro to setup the K3S (or K3) for WSJT-X.  What I am looking for is:
  1.  Set the mode to TX Data
2.  Set mic sel to Line In
3.  Set the filter to FL2 (2.7 KHz in my case)
4.  Open up the pass band width to max
I think that is it; but I might have missed something??
Thanks,
Dick, K8ZTT
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Re: [Elecraft] Macro for setup of K3S for WSJT

[Bill Frantz]

My experience is that if you set wsjt-x to use rig control, just 
starting to monitor does most of the work. I end up in Data-A 
mode. This automatically sets the mic sel to Link In. I already 
have a macro to open up the bandwidth, which automatically sets 
the filter to my FM filter. My macro for bandwidth is :


  IS 1450;BW0230;

Note that this macro doesn't open up the bandwidth to the full 
4K, which I do by turning the knobs. The K3 remembers the last 
bandwidth I used, so I don't have to manually change it very often.


I hope this helps.

73 Bill AE6JV

On 12/13/17 at 8:58 PM, elecraft@mailman.qth.net (RIchard 
Williams via Elecraft) wrote:


Before I beat my head against the wall (or re-invent the 
wheel); does someone have a micro to setup the K3S (or K3) for 
WSJT-X.  What I am looking for is:

 1.  Set the mode to TX Data
2.  Set mic sel to Line In
3.  Set the filter to FL2 (2.7 KHz in my case)
4.  Open up the pass band width to max
I think that is it; but I might have missed something??
Thanks,
Dick, K8ZTT


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[Elecraft] Macro for setup of K3S for WSJT

[RIchard Williams via Elecraft]

Before I beat my head against the wall (or re-invent the wheel); does someone 
have a micro to setup the K3S (or K3) for WSJT-X.  What I am looking for is:
 1.  Set the mode to TX Data
2.  Set mic sel to Line In
3.  Set the filter to FL2 (2.7 KHz in my case)
4.  Open up the pass band width to max
I think that is it; but I might have missed something??
Thanks,
Dick, K8ZTT
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Re: [Elecraft] Macro to switch Microphone input

[i5nph]

Thanks VERY MUCH

73 and DX

Natale
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Re: [Elecraft] Macro to switch Microphone input

[Richard Ferch]

Why not use DATA A mode for JT65? You can set the input for DATA A to LIN
IN while leaving the input for voice modes on FP.H. You can switch between
voice modes and JT65 just using the MODE button, with no need for macros or
menus.

73,
Rich VE3KI

I5NPH wrote:

...it is very important because I work JT65 and I would like to switch the
way of the audio input (LINEIN and FPH) without be forced to go to Menu.
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Re: [Elecraft] Macro to switch Microphone input

[G4GNX]

AFAIK you can't use MP for the RP, FP controls.

You would need to select the MIC menu using MN053 then a series of DN and UP 
commands to move through the menu parameters.


MN053;DN;DN;MN255; will set Front Panel

MN053;DN;DN;UP;MN255; will set Rear Panel

MN053;DN;DN;UP;UP;MN255; will set Line In

73,

Alan. G4GNX

-Original Message- 
From: i5nph

Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 11:37 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Macro to switch Microphone input

I am using firmware 05.57 and I am tryng to use the command MP to write 
macro

to switch Microphone from LINEIN and FPH.

But I get response MP?

This macro I know was working before.it is very important because I work
JT65 and I would like to switch the way of the audio input (LINEIN and FPH)
without be forced to go to Menu.

Hope in some help

Thanks in advance

73

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[Elecraft] Macro to switch Microphone input

[i5nph]

I am using firmware 05.57 and I am tryng to use the command MP to write macro
to switch Microphone from LINEIN and FPH. 

But I get response MP? 

This macro I know was working before.it is very important because I work
JT65 and I would like to switch the way of the audio input (LINEIN and FPH)
without be forced to go to Menu. 

Hope in some help 

Thanks in advance 

73 



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Re: [Elecraft] Macro Question

[Cady, Fred]

Hi Roger,

You might try using MN255; to exit the menus instead of SWT09;

Cheers,

Fred KE7X


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From: Elecraft  on behalf of Roger Meadows 

Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 5:44 PM
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Macro Question

I have two macros. One to turn off MICBIAS and MIC BTN. The second to turn 
MICBIAS back on and set MIC BTN to Ptt UP.dn.

The first one works fine:
MN135;MP000;MN082;MP000;SWT09;
MN135 sets MICBIAS off and MN082 sets MIC BTN off. SWT09 exits the menu

When I go to set them back I use:
MN135;MP016;MN082;MP004;SWT09;
MN135, bit 4 sets MICBIAS back on. MN082, bit 2 sets Ptt UP.dn. SWT09 exits 
menu.

When I go to use the mic, it does not work. When I look at the menu items they 
are set correctly. To get the mic to work, I have to toggle MIC BTN manually. 
Once I do that everything is fine.

Anyone have any idea if I’m doing something wrong or I am missing something 
(probably something simple).

Thanks,
Roger
AE4RM


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[Elecraft] Macro Question

[Roger Meadows]

I have two macros. One to turn off MICBIAS and MIC BTN. The second to turn 
MICBIAS back on and set MIC BTN to Ptt UP.dn.

The first one works fine:
MN135;MP000;MN082;MP000;SWT09;
MN135 sets MICBIAS off and MN082 sets MIC BTN off. SWT09 exits the menu

When I go to set them back I use:
MN135;MP016;MN082;MP004;SWT09;
MN135, bit 4 sets MICBIAS back on. MN082, bit 2 sets Ptt UP.dn. SWT09 exits 
menu.

When I go to use the mic, it does not work. When I look at the menu items they 
are set correctly. To get the mic to work, I have to toggle MIC BTN manually. 
Once I do that everything is fine.

Anyone have any idea if I’m doing something wrong or I am missing something 
(probably something simple).

Thanks,
Roger
AE4RM


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Re: [Elecraft] Macro save current state of setting

[Joe DeVincentis]

I figured that - I was hoping for some magic :-)  Maybe Elecraft can implement 
a push/pop stack feature.  For example:

PUSH TUN - save tune power
PUSH AG - save audio gain - just for grins - it’s an example
TUN 10
AG 0
SWH 16 - initiate TUNE
DE 10 - wait 100ms
SWH 16 stop tune
POP AG - restore tune
POP TUN - restore tune power.

That’s the dream.  I know I’d like it.

73,
Joe KO8V

> On May 16, 2017, at 8:34 AM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> 
> Joe,
> 
> Your problem is that Macros cannot read anything and save it.  They can only 
> initiate things.  Setting the power to 10 watts and initiating a TUNE is 
> quite possible (and even spelled out in the Macro examples in the K3 
> Programmer's Reference), but getting the power back to wherever it was 
> previously set is the difficult part.  you could restore the power to some 
> predetermined level - say 100 watts.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 

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Re: [Elecraft] Macro save current state of setting

[Don Wilhelm]

Joe,

Your problem is that Macros cannot read anything and save it.  They can 
only initiate things.  Setting the power to 10 watts and initiating a 
TUNE is quite possible (and even spelled out in the Macro examples in 
the K3 Programmer's Reference), but getting the power back to wherever 
it was previously set is the difficult part.  you could restore the 
power to some predetermined level - say 100 watts.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/16/2017 8:25 AM, Joe DeVincentis wrote:

Is there a way to have the K3 save a setting in a macro to restore for later 
use?  I got this idea after seeing Wayne’s post about the new Delay command.

I want this for a K-Pod button to do a quick squirt of RF for the auto-tuner.  
The tuner senses the RF and then goes to a preset.  So I’d like the button to 
do the following.

   Save the current Tune Power Setting
   Change the Tune Power Setting to 10w
   Delay 10ms
   Initiate Tune
   Delay 100ms
   Stop Tune
   Reset the Tune Power Setting to the previous setting

Thanks,

Joe
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[Elecraft] Macro save current state of setting

[Joe DeVincentis]

Is there a way to have the K3 save a setting in a macro to restore for later 
use?  I got this idea after seeing Wayne’s post about the new Delay command.

I want this for a K-Pod button to do a quick squirt of RF for the auto-tuner.  
The tuner senses the RF and then goes to a preset.  So I’d like the button to 
do the following.  

  Save the current Tune Power Setting
  Change the Tune Power Setting to 10w
  Delay 10ms
  Initiate Tune
  Delay 100ms
  Stop Tune
  Reset the Tune Power Setting to the previous setting

Thanks,

Joe
KO8V
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[Elecraft] KE7X "Elecraft Macro Programming" book - simply great...

[glcazz...@alice.it]

I just bought on LULU system the new Fred book about macros.I was waiting it 
anxiously, becouse I had programmed some macros, at first only on PF1-PF2-M1-M2 
on my K3S, and, after that  I bought a K-POD, on this last great accessory. 
Used it for split, unsplit, full power and lower power for amp, two different 
settings for AGC THR, continuously changing if filters.I have just opened the 
pdf book, it seem really a great work.I want to make better use of K-POD, i 
hope it will help me.73 de Ian IK4EWX
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Re: [Elecraft] KE7X "Elecraft Macro Programming" book

[Wayne Burdick]

Thanks for creating this reference, Fred. It will help K-Line and KX-Line 
owners get the most out of their rigs' user-interface customization features.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Jan 19, 2017, at 8:45 AM, "Cady, Fred"  wrote:

> "Elecraft Macro Programming -- K3s, K3, KX3 and P3/SVGA, PX3, and KPod" is 
> now available.
> 
> This 170+ page book will answer the following questions and more:
> How do I assign a K3, KX3, P3 or PX3 programmable function key to a menu item?
> How do I assign a K3, KX3, P3 or PX3 programmable function key to a macro?
> How do I make a P3 or PX3 macro?
> How do I make a function key toggle between two macros?
> What function keys are available in the K3, KX3, P3 and PX3?
> What are the Programmer's Commands for the K3, KX3 and KX2?
> How do I access a configuration menu and set a parameter in a macro?
> How do I develop and test macros?
> Can I have transceiver and panadapter commands in the same macro?
> How does the Genovation keypad work?
> What are the rules of the road for writing macros?
> How do I use the KPod?
> How many macro examples are given in the book?  >130 K3, KX3, P3/SVGA and PX3 
> macros.
> 
> See www.ke7x.com<http://www.ke7x.com> for more descriptions of this new KE7X 
> book including the table of contents, a sample chapter giving some of the 
> rules of the road for writing macros, and a partial list of example macros to 
> be found in the book.   Printed, spiral-bound and PDF versions of the book 
> are available from www.lulu.com.
> 
> 73,
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[Elecraft] KE7X "Elecraft Macro Programming" book

[Cady, Fred]

"Elecraft Macro Programming -- K3s, K3, KX3 and P3/SVGA, PX3, and KPod" is now 
available.

This 170+ page book will answer the following questions and more:
How do I assign a K3, KX3, P3 or PX3 programmable function key to a menu item?
How do I assign a K3, KX3, P3 or PX3 programmable function key to a macro?
How do I make a P3 or PX3 macro?
How do I make a function key toggle between two macros?
What function keys are available in the K3, KX3, P3 and PX3?
What are the Programmer's Commands for the K3, KX3 and KX2?
How do I access a configuration menu and set a parameter in a macro?
How do I develop and test macros?
Can I have transceiver and panadapter commands in the same macro?
How does the Genovation keypad work?
What are the rules of the road for writing macros?
How do I use the KPod?
How many macro examples are given in the book?  >130 K3, KX3, P3/SVGA and PX3 
macros.

See www.ke7x.com<http://www.ke7x.com> for more descriptions of this new KE7X 
book including the table of contents, a sample chapter giving some of the rules 
of the road for writing macros, and a partial list of example macros to be 
found in the book.   Printed, spiral-bound and PDF versions of the book are 
available from www.lulu.com.

73,
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Re: [Elecraft] Macro for text decode

[Harry Yingst via Elecraft]

You're Welcome

I've been writing a lot of macros lately, since I have a K-Pod and a Genovetion 
CPS48 Keypad

It just so happened that I was working on that same issue, So in truth you 
inspired me to fix my Macro.





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 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Macro for text decode
   
I would like to thank you all for the input and it was very interesting
seeing the solution come together as I read the posts. 
Thanks to all of you for your time 
73, 
Mike 
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Re: [Elecraft] Macro for text decode

[VE3WDM]

I would like to thank you all for the input and it was very interesting
seeing the solution come together as I read the posts. 
Thanks to all of you for your time 
73, 
Mike 
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Re: [Elecraft] Macro for text decode

[Cady, Fred]

I think the UPB and DNB are still on the list for the KX3.



From: Elecraft  on behalf of Tom 

Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 10:07 PM
To: donw...@embarqmail.com; Harry Yingst; Mike Weir; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Macro for text decode

I stand corrected.
At some point early last year, the K3 firmware was updated to use the UPB;
and DNB; which will allow changing of the text decode in CW.  Prior to that,
the UPB; and DNB; commands did nothing when the SWH40; command was issued
and therefore made it impossible to set text decode on or off without using
the remote control K3/0 protocol.

So the way to put the radio into text decode is as follows:
SWH40; UPB;UPB;UPB:UPB; and then you issue as many DNB; as you wish to
choose the setting.  You can do it the other way around as well.
SWH40;DNB;DNB;DNB;DNB; and then UPB; for TX Only, another UPB; for CW5-30
and then UPB; for CW 30-90.

The multiple UPB; s are used to put the setting into a known state since
there are 5 states to the menu item and you could be anywhere in the
sequence.
It is good that the UPB; and DNB; commands don't cycle though the list
continuously.  There are a couple of commands like that which then require
reading the VFOB display to determine where you are.

It should work fine now if timing isn't an issue.
73 Tom
va2fsq.com

-Original Message-
From: Don Wilhelm
Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 11:23 PM
To: Harry Yingst ; Mike Weir ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Macro for text decode

Harry,

Turning CWT is no more complicated than operating the CWT button, but
there are other things that may be involved to achieve successful
decode.  Narrowing the bandwidth is one that comes to mind so the
decoder does not have to deal with band noise and other nearby signals.
There are other controls that can enhance the decoding.
In other words, it may produce better results by careful tuning and
other manual controls instead of trying to depend on a a "one button"
macro initiation to provide clear CW decode.
Besides, the human ear is the best interpreter of CW - it will be better
than any CW decoder implemented in software.  A CW decoder can usually
interpret perfect code, but it will have trouble with code sent from a
bug with a "lake Erie swing" or code sent from a hand key unless the
sending operator has perfect timing (rare).
Listen to CW so your brain can interpret it without relying on CW
decoders, and you will go a long way toward increasing your CW speed.
20 wpm is the initial goal you should strive for.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/3/2017 10:03 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
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> I also have been trying to get this to work for the CW mode and have not
> gotten it to work reliably
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Re: [Elecraft] Macro for text decode

[Harry Yingst via Elecraft]

CW Decode 5-40  = 
MD3;SWH40;DNB;DNB;DNB;DNB;UPB;UPB;SWH40;

CW Decode 30-90 = 
MD3;SWH40;DNB;DNB;DNB;DNB;UPB;UPB;UPB;SWH40;


CW Decode Off = MD3;SWH40;DNB;DNB;DNB;DNB;SWH40;



I just tested these and they worked. si it looks like I just needed more delays.
(Using 5 now, and added some after the TEXT DEC command)

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction (more delays)




  From: "Cady, Fred" 
 To: Mike Weir ; Harry Yingst  
 Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 11:14 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Macro for text decode
   
#yiv9635281630 #yiv9635281630 -- P 
{margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}#yiv9635281630 You can do something like this: 
SWH40;  Hold TEXT DEC 
switchDNB;;DNB;;;DNB;;;DNB;;;   Drive the 
choice to off.  10 ; are needed to process the DNB;UPB;;UPB;;  
Change to RX THR 1SWT17;  Exit text decode

Using the semicolons is a bit dogey but may work.


From: Elecraft  on behalf of Harry Yingst via 
Elecraft 
Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 8:03 PM
To: Mike Weir; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Macro for text decode 
I also have been trying to get this to work for the CW mode and have not gotten 
it to work reliably





  From: Mike Weir 
 To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net"  
 Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 7:26 PM
 Subject: [Elecraft] Macro for text decode
   
I checked the archives looking for information regarding a macro for the K3 
that will turn the text decode on and off. The most recent archive regarding 
this was from 2013 saying there was none. It's now 2017 and wondering if a 
macro has been written to preform this function?

Thanks

Mike

VE3WDM
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Re: [Elecraft] Macro for text decode

[Tom]

I stand corrected.
At some point early last year, the K3 firmware was updated to use the UPB; 
and DNB; which will allow changing of the text decode in CW.  Prior to that, 
the UPB; and DNB; commands did nothing when the SWH40; command was issued 
and therefore made it impossible to set text decode on or off without using 
the remote control K3/0 protocol.


So the way to put the radio into text decode is as follows:
SWH40; UPB;UPB;UPB:UPB; and then you issue as many DNB; as you wish to 
choose the setting.  You can do it the other way around as well.
SWH40;DNB;DNB;DNB;DNB; and then UPB; for TX Only, another UPB; for CW5-30 
and then UPB; for CW 30-90.


The multiple UPB; s are used to put the setting into a known state since 
there are 5 states to the menu item and you could be anywhere in the 
sequence.
It is good that the UPB; and DNB; commands don't cycle though the list 
continuously.  There are a couple of commands like that which then require 
reading the VFOB display to determine where you are.


It should work fine now if timing isn't an issue.
73 Tom
va2fsq.com

-Original Message- 
From: Don Wilhelm

Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 11:23 PM
To: Harry Yingst ; Mike Weir ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Macro for text decode

Harry,

Turning CWT is no more complicated than operating the CWT button, but
there are other things that may be involved to achieve successful
decode.  Narrowing the bandwidth is one that comes to mind so the
decoder does not have to deal with band noise and other nearby signals.
There are other controls that can enhance the decoding.
In other words, it may produce better results by careful tuning and
other manual controls instead of trying to depend on a a "one button"
macro initiation to provide clear CW decode.
Besides, the human ear is the best interpreter of CW - it will be better
than any CW decoder implemented in software.  A CW decoder can usually
interpret perfect code, but it will have trouble with code sent from a
bug with a "lake Erie swing" or code sent from a hand key unless the
sending operator has perfect timing (rare).
Listen to CW so your brain can interpret it without relying on CW
decoders, and you will go a long way toward increasing your CW speed.
20 wpm is the initial goal you should strive for.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/3/2017 10:03 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:


I also have been trying to get this to work for the CW mode and have not 
gotten it to work reliably

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Re: [Elecraft] Macro for text decode

[Don Wilhelm]

Harry,

Turning CWT is no more complicated than operating the CWT button, but 
there are other things that may be involved to achieve successful 
decode.  Narrowing the bandwidth is one that comes to mind so the 
decoder does not have to deal with band noise and other nearby signals.

There are other controls that can enhance the decoding.
In other words, it may produce better results by careful tuning and 
other manual controls instead of trying to depend on a a "one button" 
macro initiation to provide clear CW decode.
Besides, the human ear is the best interpreter of CW - it will be better 
than any CW decoder implemented in software.  A CW decoder can usually 
interpret perfect code, but it will have trouble with code sent from a 
bug with a "lake Erie swing" or code sent from a hand key unless the 
sending operator has perfect timing (rare).
Listen to CW so your brain can interpret it without relying on CW 
decoders, and you will go a long way toward increasing your CW speed. 
20 wpm is the initial goal you should strive for.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/3/2017 10:03 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:


I also have been trying to get this to work for the CW mode and have not gotten 
it to work reliably

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Re: [Elecraft] Macro for text decode

[Harry Yingst via Elecraft]

I also have been trying to get this to work for the CW mode and have not gotten 
it to work reliably





  From: Mike Weir 
 To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net"  
 Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 7:26 PM
 Subject: [Elecraft] Macro for text decode
   
I checked the archives looking for information regarding a macro for the K3 
that will turn the text decode on and off. The most recent archive regarding 
this was from 2013 saying there was none. It's now 2017 and wondering if a 
macro has been written to preform this function?

Thanks

Mike

VE3WDM
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Re: [Elecraft] Macro for text decode

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

As Don noted, it should be quite simple. 

SWH40; 

Toggles the text decode function. 

Use the VFOB knob to choose the speed range, threshold setting or OFF. 

I assume you want to control Text Decode remotely with a KPOD since it gains
you nothing to assign that to one of the K3 front panel switches instead of
pressing the K3 TXT DEC switch. 

You can assign that macro to any of the first 16 locations in the K3 so you
can launch it from the KPOD. Use the KPOD rocker switch to enable control of
the VFO B function at the KPOD to choose the speed range, threshold setting
or OFF.  

73, Ron AC7AC

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From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Don
Wilhelm
Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 6:03 PM
To: Mike Weir; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Macro for text decode

Mike,

A macro that will operate the CWT button would be in order - nothing
complicated at all.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/3/2017 7:26 PM, Mike Weir wrote:
> I checked the archives looking for information regarding a macro for the
K3 that will turn the text decode on and off. The most recent archive
regarding this was from 2013 saying there was none. It's now 2017 and
wondering if a macro has been written to preform this function?
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Re: [Elecraft] Macro for text decode

[Don Wilhelm]

Mike,

A macro that will operate the CWT button would be in order - nothing 
complicated at all.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/3/2017 7:26 PM, Mike Weir wrote:

I checked the archives looking for information regarding a macro for the K3 
that will turn the text decode on and off. The most recent archive regarding 
this was from 2013 saying there was none. It's now 2017 and wondering if a 
macro has been written to preform this function?


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Re: [Elecraft] Macro for text decode

[tomb18]

HiTo my knowledge it is still not possible. You need to be able to read a value 
from the radio and then perform an UP or DN depending on result.73 Tom 
va2fsq.com 


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[Elecraft] Macro for text decode 
I checked the archives looking for information regarding a macro for the K3 
that will turn the text decode on and off. The most recent archive regarding 
this was from 2013 saying there was none. It's now 2017 and wondering if a 
macro has been written to preform this function?

Thanks

Mike

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[Elecraft] Macro for text decode

[Mike Weir]

I checked the archives looking for information regarding a macro for the K3 
that will turn the text decode on and off. The most recent archive regarding 
this was from 2013 saying there was none. It's now 2017 and wondering if a 
macro has been written to preform this function?

Thanks

Mike

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Re: [Elecraft] Macro command question

[John Klewer]

I figured out my error

Please disregard

JK

On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 10:15 PM, John Klewer  wrote:

> Learning how to do the macro thing with my K3Sperhaps it is just too
> late at night but I cannot seem to find a reference to the command to set
> "Line In" level
>
> Found Mic Gain but no reference to Line in setting in Data A mode
>
> Any help, please?
>
> Thanks
>
> John
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[Elecraft] Macro command question

[John Klewer]

Learning how to do the macro thing with my K3Sperhaps it is just too
late at night but I cannot seem to find a reference to the command to set
"Line In" level

Found Mic Gain but no reference to Line in setting in Data A mode

Any help, please?

Thanks

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Re: [Elecraft] Macro sequencing

[Cady, Fred]

Here ya go.


Toggle AGC THR between 012 and 020
Toggle AGC THR between 012 and 020 by holding M1
Uses Macro 4 and Macro 5 and M1.
Assign the following to Macro 4:

MN074;  Select the AGC THR menu.
MP020;   Set THR to 020;
SWT14;   Tap the MENU switch to exit this menu.
MN110;  Enter the MACRO n menu.
SWT27;  Tap the 5 switch.
SWH21;  Hold M1.  (This assigns M1 to the commands in Macro 5 for the next 
hold.)
MN255;   Exit menu mode.

MN074;MP020;SWT14;MN110;SWT27;SWH21;MN255;

Assign the following to Macro 5:

MN074;  Select the AGC THR menu.
MP012;   Set THR to 012;
SWT14;  Tap the MENU switch.
MN110;  Enter the MACRO n menu.
SWT24;  Tap the  4 switch.
SWH21;  Hold M1.  (This assigns M1 to the commands in Macro 4 for the next 
hold.)
MN255;  Exit menu mode.

MN074;MP012;SWT14;MN110;SWT24;SWH21;MN255;


Enter the CONFIG:MACRO x menu and tap  4.
Hold M1 to program it to execute MACRO 4.
Each time you hold M1 the threshold switches between 012 and 020.

Using a K*Pod button to toggle AGC THR.

A K*Pod button cannot directly replace the M1 function key in the Toggle THR 
macro (above)
but you can use a K*Pod button to activate a macro that holds M1.
SWH21;  Hold M1.

Write this macro to one of the 16 in the K3S/K3 and tap or hold the 
corresponding K*Pod switch.

Cheers,

Fred KE7X


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From: glcazz...@alice.it 
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 2:03 AM
To: Cady, Fred; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: R: [Elecraft] Macro sequencing


Fred, can you specify the macro for setting two different options of AGC, for 
example:

a) thr 10 - slp 5
B) thr 6 - slp 12

I would like to set them both on PF2 and on different macros on K-Pod.

I have seen examples on your K3S book that I own  and on ham web pages. I have 
programmed split+2 on and off on PF1,  and on K-Pod, pwr 100 and pwr 65 (for 
driving amp), but dont understand how to set these values for AGC in a macro.

Thanks
Ian IK4EWX
Messaggio originale
Da: fc...@montana.edu
Data: 12-nov-2016 0.57
A: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net"
Ogg: [Elecraft] Macro sequencing

We have seen some great macro ideas where a single function key is used to 
toggle between two different K3 states, e.g. in and out of split, toggling 
between two AGC THR settings, etc.  Unfortunately, this idea cannot be used 
(directly) with a KPod button.  Each of the the 16 KPod buttons are dedicated 
to a single macro and cannot be changed like the function key assignments can.


However, I just twigged onto the thought that you can assign a third macro to 
be activated by a KPod key that then toggles the macro sequence.  For example, 
if you use a hold of PF2 to toggle in and out of split, that uses Macro 7 and 
Macro 8 (say) you can assign SWH47; to Macro 9 and then tap the KPod F1 key to 
run Macro 7 and then Macro 8 in sequence.


Don't why I didn't think of it before or if I missed it when somebody else 
mentioned it.


have a good weekend all.

73,

Fred KE7X


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[Elecraft] Macro sequencing

[Cady, Fred]

We have seen some great macro ideas where a single function key is used to 
toggle between two different K3 states, e.g. in and out of split, toggling 
between two AGC THR settings, etc.  Unfortunately, this idea cannot be used 
(directly) with a KPod button.  Each of the the 16 KPod buttons are dedicated 
to a single macro and cannot be changed like the function key assignments can.


However, I just twigged onto the thought that you can assign a third macro to 
be activated by a KPod key that then toggles the macro sequence.  For example, 
if you use a hold of PF2 to toggle in and out of split, that uses Macro 7 and 
Macro 8 (say) you can assign SWH47; to Macro 9 and then tap the KPod F1 key to 
run Macro 7 and then Macro 8 in sequence.


Don't why I didn't think of it before or if I missed it when somebody else 
mentioned it.


have a good weekend all.

73,

Fred KE7X


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[Elecraft] Macro delay help

[K5MWR via Elecraft]

Admittedly a neophyte in learning the ins and outs of writing macros so 
forgive if this question has already been addressed.


I am trying to place macros in the P3 SVGA memories and have run into 
the problem that appears the K3 response time for doing band changes is 
preventing the ability to write a complex macro.  Is there a way to 
insert delays into the macro to allow band change (possibly other 
functions) to complete?


An example of what I am trying to do is below where a band change at the 
start results in having to run the macro twice to work.  It depends on 
what prior band was in use.  My desire is to switch from other 
bands/modes to specific operating frequencies and have the P3 span and 
center freq be specific.


BN03;MD1;FA729;BW0280;PC100;FT0;SB1;CP010;SWT13;SWT13;DNB7;#NB1;#SPN002000;#CTF 
725;


Appreciate any pointers.

Dave K5MWR
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Macro Maker

[Jwahar Bammi]

Thanks Nick,
Very handy tool, nicely done like all your stuff.
Suggestion: Please allow frequency entry with common suffixes like k, M, 
G etc instead of the error prone entry in Hz or allow scientific 
notation like E3, E6 etc if that is more convenient from a field parsing 
point of view.


73 de kc1ccr
bammi

> Here's the result: http://pignology.net/emm

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Macro Maker

[Bill]

Nice job!  Next comes all the utility of chaining macros together - you 
are only limited by your imagination (or lack of). So far so good on my 
Genovation keypad and K-pod. Macros make the K3 for me - no other rig 
can compare, except perhaps for the K3S.


Now, if I could just write a macro to get the lawn mower to do the lawn 
without me hanging onto it!!


Bill W2BLC K-Line


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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Macro Maker

[Peter Pauly]

Awesome!  Nicely done.

On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 6:32 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire  wrote:

> Neat!
>
> 73, Ron AC7AC
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Nick
> Garner
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 2:59 PM
> To: Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Macro Maker
>
> Hi Everyone,
> I had an idea pop into my head over the weekend to put together an
> application to help with the composition of macros for use with Elecraft
> radios.
>
> Here's the result:
> http://pignology.net/emm
>
> 73,
> Nick
> N3WG
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Macro Maker

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

Neat! 

73, Ron AC7AC

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Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Macro Maker

Hi Everyone,
I had an idea pop into my head over the weekend to put together an
application to help with the composition of macros for use with Elecraft
radios.

Here's the result:
http://pignology.net/emm

73,
Nick
N3WG
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[Elecraft] Elecraft Macro Maker

[Nick Garner]

Hi Everyone,
I had an idea pop into my head over the weekend to put together an
application to help with the composition of macros for use with Elecraft
radios.

Here's the result:
http://pignology.net/emm

73,
Nick
N3WG
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[Elecraft] Macro command

[Peter]

Hi there


Is is possible to set the power level AND lock it via a macro command?

Via menu PWR SET press1 it locks (disable) the power knob

To set the power level  via a commando its:

PC065;

I Now I need the last part :-)


Peter

PC2A

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[Elecraft] Macro help

[Leroy Marion]

I am having some success with the  Kpod marcros.   I have read thru the
programing reference

 

But still need some help I am a macro beginner. 

 

1.   What would be the one tap turn on the diversity one hold same
button turn it off macro. I can make it do it but it does not turn off the
SUB RCVR when I use mine. I am trying make one that does not change the VFO
frequencies as well. Just enable diversity/return to where it was.

 

2.Can one tap/hold the Fine/Coarse VFO resolution.

 

 

 

My others seem to work OK, so if someone can help with these two I
appreciate it.

 

 

Leroy  

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[Elecraft] Macro Spread Sheet Update

[Dave Cole]

Hello,

For those of you who put together a Genovation external keypad I have
updated the Macro spread sheet located at:

http://nk7z.net/adding-an-external-keypad-to-the-k3/

About 3/4 of the way down the article you will find a link to the new
spreadsheet.  

Macro 35 sets the K3 power to 25 Watts, and Macro 36 Sets the K3 power
to 100 Watts.  The template for printing Generation key caps has been
updated to reflect the two new commands.

If you did not do a Genovation Keypad, the macros are still good to use
if you enter them into the P3.

-- 
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Dave (NK7Z)

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Re: [Elecraft] Macro Questions on a KX3

[Dick Dievendorff]

There's also a missing semicolon at the end of the first macro.  SWH09
should be SWH09;

Dick, K6KR


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From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Randy
Diddel
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 09:30
To: Wayne Burdick 
Cc: elecraft 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Macro Questions on a KX3

Thanks Wayne and Bill,

I knew I just needed a second set of eyes on it.  I will give it a try when
I get home.//73

K5RHD

/randy


> On Mar 21, 2016, at 10:08 AM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> 
> Hi Randy,
> 
> You need three digits with the MP command. After the MN096, use "MP001;"
to turn ESSB on or "MP000;" to turn it off.
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
> 
> On Mar 21, 2016, at 7:57 AM, Randy Diddel  wrote:
> 
>> Good day,
>> 
>> I wrote this about a week ago and nobody responded so I am asking 
>> again.  Maybe Wayne or Eric can field it:
>> 
>> 
>> I am programming Macros for my KX3.  Recent financial issues have 
>> relegated me back to just my trusty KX3 for all things HF.  When in 
>> the shack, I usually operate low power digital modes and have my 
>> macro nearly perfect.  The one parameter I cannot get right is to 
>> switch ESSB so I am able to TX in the upper part of the JT area and 
>> use JT9-ESSB works great for this!  As you can see below, I am trying 
>> to use the MN096 and a toggle (MP00) to set the bit to on, but it 
>> does not work.  I am certain it is just a syntax error.  Also, for 
>> when I am doing voice and SOTA, I would like the command to do the 
>> opposite and turn off ESSB.
>> 
>> Digital Macro:
>> TE-00-00-00-00+00+00+00+00;PA0;MG001;AG004;BW0400;IS
>> 1500;PC150;ML000;MD2;CP000;SWT21;MN096;MP00;*CP000;SWH09
>> 
>> SSB/Voice Macro
>> TE-16-16-10-06+04+06+08+12;*MD2;CP025;*MG020;BW0240;SWH34;ML000;AG002
>> TE-16-16-10-06+04+06+08+;IS
>> 1350;PC150;*SWH09;
>> 
>> As always, TIA,
>> 
>> 73 de K5RHD
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Re: [Elecraft] Macro Questions on a KX3

[Randy Diddel]

Thanks Wayne and Bill,

I knew I just needed a second set of eyes on it.  I will give it a try when I 
get home.//73

K5RHD

/randy


> On Mar 21, 2016, at 10:08 AM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> 
> Hi Randy,
> 
> You need three digits with the MP command. After the MN096, use "MP001;" to 
> turn ESSB on or "MP000;" to turn it off.
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
> 
> On Mar 21, 2016, at 7:57 AM, Randy Diddel  wrote:
> 
>> Good day,
>> 
>> I wrote this about a week ago and nobody responded so I am asking
>> again.  Maybe Wayne or Eric can field it:
>> 
>> 
>> I am programming Macros for my KX3.  Recent financial issues have
>> relegated me back to just my trusty KX3 for all things HF.  When in
>> the shack, I usually operate low power digital modes and have my macro
>> nearly perfect.  The one parameter I cannot get right is to switch
>> ESSB so I am able to TX in the upper part of the JT area and use
>> JT9-ESSB works great for this!  As you can see below, I am trying to
>> use the MN096 and a toggle (MP00) to set the bit to on, but it does
>> not work.  I am certain it is just a syntax error.  Also, for when I
>> am doing voice and SOTA, I would like the command to do the opposite
>> and turn off ESSB.
>> 
>> Digital Macro:
>> TE-00-00-00-00+00+00+00+00;PA0;MG001;AG004;BW0400;IS
>> 1500;PC150;ML000;MD2;CP000;SWT21;MN096;MP00;*CP000;SWH09
>> 
>> SSB/Voice Macro
>> TE-16-16-10-06+04+06+08+12;*MD2;CP025;*MG020;BW0240;SWH34;ML000;AG002;IS
>> 1350;PC150;*SWH09;
>> 
>> As always, TIA,
>> 
>> 73 de K5RHD
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Re: [Elecraft] Macro Questions on a KX3

[Wayne Burdick]

Hi Randy,

You need three digits with the MP command. After the MN096, use "MP001;" to 
turn ESSB on or "MP000;" to turn it off.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Mar 21, 2016, at 7:57 AM, Randy Diddel  wrote:

> Good day,
> 
> I wrote this about a week ago and nobody responded so I am asking
> again.  Maybe Wayne or Eric can field it:
> 
> 
> I am programming Macros for my KX3.  Recent financial issues have
> relegated me back to just my trusty KX3 for all things HF.  When in
> the shack, I usually operate low power digital modes and have my macro
> nearly perfect.  The one parameter I cannot get right is to switch
> ESSB so I am able to TX in the upper part of the JT area and use
> JT9-ESSB works great for this!  As you can see below, I am trying to
> use the MN096 and a toggle (MP00) to set the bit to on, but it does
> not work.  I am certain it is just a syntax error.  Also, for when I
> am doing voice and SOTA, I would like the command to do the opposite
> and turn off ESSB.
> 
> Digital Macro:
> TE-00-00-00-00+00+00+00+00;PA0;MG001;AG004;BW0400;IS
> 1500;PC150;ML000;MD2;CP000;SWT21;MN096;MP00;*CP000;SWH09
> 
> SSB/Voice Macro
> TE-16-16-10-06+04+06+08+12;*MD2;CP025;*MG020;BW0240;SWH34;ML000;AG002;IS
> 1350;PC150;*SWH09;
> 
> As always, TIA,
> 
> 73 de K5RHD
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[Elecraft] Macro Questions on a KX3

[Randy Diddel]

Good day,

I wrote this about a week ago and nobody responded so I am asking
again.  Maybe Wayne or Eric can field it:


I am programming Macros for my KX3.  Recent financial issues have
relegated me back to just my trusty KX3 for all things HF.  When in
the shack, I usually operate low power digital modes and have my macro
nearly perfect.  The one parameter I cannot get right is to switch
ESSB so I am able to TX in the upper part of the JT area and use
JT9-ESSB works great for this!  As you can see below, I am trying to
use the MN096 and a toggle (MP00) to set the bit to on, but it does
not work.  I am certain it is just a syntax error.  Also, for when I
am doing voice and SOTA, I would like the command to do the opposite
and turn off ESSB.

Digital Macro:
TE-00-00-00-00+00+00+00+00;PA0;MG001;AG004;BW0400;IS
1500;PC150;ML000;MD2;CP000;SWT21;MN096;MP00;*CP000;SWH09

SSB/Voice Macro
TE-16-16-10-06+04+06+08+12;*MD2;CP025;*MG020;BW0240;SWH34;ML000;AG002;IS
1350;PC150;*SWH09;

As always, TIA,

73 de K5RHD
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Re: [Elecraft] Macro to adjust THR

[Tom]

Hi
SWH40 will select text decode.  Then 5 DN; commands to bring it to auto. 
Then 3 UP; commands to bring it to three.

73 Tom
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Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 12:07 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Macro to adjust THR

I usually set the THR on CW decode to about 3 for reliable copy. I would 
like

to create macros to change it to 3 and 4 and also auto.

Can some one help me figure these out?

Oh and by the way the new P3 beta is awesome. Thanks

I use the decode as a backup to myself I guess I have not learned to have
confidence in my decode. Plus during dx or contest people fly with code, so
I need help there.

Thanks again.
Gerald




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[Elecraft] Macro to adjust THR

[KC6CNN]

I usually set the THR on CW decode to about 3 for reliable copy. I would like
to create macros to change it to 3 and 4 and also auto. 

Can some one help me figure these out? 

Oh and by the way the new P3 beta is awesome. Thanks

I use the decode as a backup to myself I guess I have not learned to have
confidence in my decode. Plus during dx or contest people fly with code, so
I need help there. 

Thanks again. 
Gerald




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Re: [Elecraft] Macro Library Repository and K3/K3S/KX3 Utility Programs

[Jim McDonald]

Why not upload them to the Elecraft_K3 Yahoo Group files area?

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Elecraft_K3/files

I and others uploaded several K3 user-defined controls for DXLab's Commander 
rig control module to the DXLab Yahoo Group Files area a few years ago.  
Commander allow many more macros than the buttons on the radio do, and they can 
be executed by pressing a mouse button or an F-key.  I think it's pretty easy 
to create them in Commander.

You can download them and use them without rekeying them.

Information on Commander user-defined controls (sequences and sliders) is 
available at:
http://www.dxlabsuite.com/commander/Help/CommandSequences.htm .

73, Jim N7US



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Since macros are only text files, I personally have no need of fancy 
functionality in a library or utility.  The current Elecraft K3 utility works 
beautifully.

So for me, a simple Web site (or shared Google doc) listing macro examples is 
all the functionality that I think is needed.

73, Barry N1EU

On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Phil Hystad  wrote:

> The recent comments regarding Wayne’s new Noise Blanker experiment 
> reminded me of something I wanted to suggest awhile back but forgot 
> all about it.
>
> This has to do with Macros and command sequences used to program or 
> alter some specific setting in a temporary (maybe) way.  Many of these 
> are posted here as well as found on some web sites including Elecraft.
>
> But, there is something missing that would be nice.  And, that is a 
> documented library hosted on Elecraft’s web site as well as a utility 
> program feature to automatically download and manage the macro programs.
>
> As a library, the documentation should be embedded in the Macro file 
> itself per a standard format that declares the purpose (brief 
> abstract), more detailed user instructions, and any known side 
> effects.  Also, author’s name and date and maybe a revision history.
>
> The utility programs would include a new feature to download (maybe 
> abstracts or complete macro file) and list available macro programs 
> displaying the brief abstract on the display.  The utility program 
> would allow the user to select macros for download that copy them to a 
> known location on the user’s computer managed by the utility program.  
> Also, this new feature set would support the loading of the macro to the 
> K3/K3S/KX3.
> Actually, a very nice “extra” would be to undo the macro act.  Of 
> course, this could get complicated since a Macro can do anything and 
> many things that should not be done.  But, one way to undo is to 
> automatically save and then allow restoration of the rig settings, say in 
> some kind of test mode.
> Of course, this could be done by the user but it might be faster to do 
> it as part of a test sequence supported by the utility program.
>
> It seems like the only complicate part of this process is setting up a 
> repository and managing it in a way that ensures the integrity of the
> standards: documentation, layout, and anything else.  The enhancements 
> to the utility programs do not seem to be all that hard to do (I am a 
> retired programmer of about 50 years programming experience).
>
> There could be a network of volunteers that accept the new macros to 
> be included and they test and vet those macros per the definition of 
> purpose and the standards set forth for this repository.
>
> 73, phil, K7PEH

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Re: [Elecraft] Macro Library Repository and K3/K3S/KX3 Utility Programs

[Barry N1EU]

Since macros are only text files, I personally have no need of fancy
functionality in a library or utility.  The current Elecraft K3 utility
works beautifully.

So for me, a simple Web site (or shared Google doc) listing macro examples
is all the functionality that I think is needed.

73, Barry N1EU

On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Phil Hystad  wrote:

> The recent comments regarding Wayne’s new Noise Blanker experiment
> reminded me of something I wanted to suggest awhile back but forgot all
> about it.
>
> This has to do with Macros and command sequences used to program or alter
> some specific setting in a temporary (maybe) way.  Many of these are posted
> here as well as found on some web sites including Elecraft.
>
> But, there is something missing that would be nice.  And, that is a
> documented library hosted on Elecraft’s web site as well as a utility
> program feature to automatically download and manage the macro programs.
>
> As a library, the documentation should be embedded in the Macro file
> itself per a standard format that declares the purpose (brief abstract),
> more detailed user instructions, and any known side effects.  Also,
> author’s name and date and maybe a revision history.
>
> The utility programs would include a new feature to download (maybe
> abstracts or complete macro file) and list available macro programs
> displaying the brief abstract on the display.  The utility program would
> allow the user to select macros for download that copy them to a known
> location on the user’s computer managed by the utility program.  Also, this
> new feature set would support the loading of the macro to the K3/K3S/KX3.
> Actually, a very nice “extra” would be to undo the macro act.  Of course,
> this could get complicated since a Macro can do anything and many things
> that should not be done.  But, one way to undo is to automatically save and
> then allow restoration of the rig settings, say in some kind of test mode.
> Of course, this could be done by the user but it might be faster to do it
> as part of a test sequence supported by the utility program.
>
> It seems like the only complicate part of this process is setting up a
> repository and managing it in a way that ensures the integrity of the
> standards: documentation, layout, and anything else.  The enhancements to
> the utility programs do not seem to be all that hard to do (I am a retired
> programmer of about 50 years programming experience).
>
> There could be a network of volunteers that accept the new macros to be
> included and they test and vet those macros per the definition of purpose
> and the standards set forth for this repository.
>
> 73, phil, K7PEH
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Macro Library Repository and K3/K3S/KX3 Utility Programs

[Dave Cole]

That is an absolutely wonderful idea Phil!!!  I would love to be in the
macro testing volunteer group if this happens...
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On Thu, 2016-02-04 at 09:17 -0800, Phil Hystad wrote:
> The recent comments regarding Wayne’s new Noise Blanker experiment
> reminded me of something I wanted to suggest awhile back but forgot
> all about it.
> 
> This has to do with Macros and command sequences used to program or
> alter some specific setting in a temporary (maybe) way.  Many of
> these are posted here as well as found on some web sites including
> Elecraft.
> 
> But, there is something missing that would be nice.  And, that is a
> documented library hosted on Elecraft’s web site as well as a utility
> program feature to automatically download and manage the macro
> programs.
> 
> As a library, the documentation should be embedded in the Macro file
> itself per a standard format that declares the purpose (brief
> abstract), more detailed user instructions, and any known side
> effects.  Also, author’s name and date and maybe a revision history.
> 
> The utility programs would include a new feature to download (maybe
> abstracts or complete macro file) and list available macro programs
> displaying the brief abstract on the display.  The utility program
> would allow the user to select macros for download that copy them to
> a known location on the user’s computer managed by the utility
> program.  Also, this new feature set would support the loading of the
> macro to the K3/K3S/KX3.  Actually, a very nice “extra” would be to
> undo the macro act.  Of course, this could get complicated since a
> Macro can do anything and many things that should not be done.  But,
> one way to undo is to automatically save and then allow restoration
> of the rig settings, say in some kind of test mode.  Of course, this
> could be done by the user but it might be faster to do it as part of
> a test sequence supported by the utility program.
> 
> It seems like the only complicate part of this process is setting up
> a repository and managing it in a way that ensures the integrity of
> the standards: documentation, layout, and anything else.  The
> enhancements to the utility programs do not seem to be all that hard
> to do (I am a retired programmer of about 50 years programming
> experience).
> 
> There could be a network of volunteers that accept the new macros to
> be included and they test and vet those macros per the definition of
> purpose and the standards set forth for this repository.
> 
> 73, phil, K7PEH
> 
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[Elecraft] Macro Library Repository and K3/K3S/KX3 Utility Programs

[Phil Hystad]

The recent comments regarding Wayne’s new Noise Blanker experiment reminded me 
of something I wanted to suggest awhile back but forgot all about it.

This has to do with Macros and command sequences used to program or alter some 
specific setting in a temporary (maybe) way.  Many of these are posted here as 
well as found on some web sites including Elecraft.

But, there is something missing that would be nice.  And, that is a documented 
library hosted on Elecraft’s web site as well as a utility program feature to 
automatically download and manage the macro programs.

As a library, the documentation should be embedded in the Macro file itself per 
a standard format that declares the purpose (brief abstract), more detailed 
user instructions, and any known side effects.  Also, author’s name and date 
and maybe a revision history.

The utility programs would include a new feature to download (maybe abstracts 
or complete macro file) and list available macro programs displaying the brief 
abstract on the display.  The utility program would allow the user to select 
macros for download that copy them to a known location on the user’s computer 
managed by the utility program.  Also, this new feature set would support the 
loading of the macro to the K3/K3S/KX3.  Actually, a very nice “extra” would be 
to undo the macro act.  Of course, this could get complicated since a Macro can 
do anything and many things that should not be done.  But, one way to undo is 
to automatically save and then allow restoration of the rig settings, say in 
some kind of test mode.  Of course, this could be done by the user but it might 
be faster to do it as part of a test sequence supported by the utility program.

It seems like the only complicate part of this process is setting up a 
repository and managing it in a way that ensures the integrity of the 
standards: documentation, layout, and anything else.  The enhancements to the 
utility programs do not seem to be all that hard to do (I am a retired 
programmer of about 50 years programming experience).

There could be a network of volunteers that accept the new macros to be 
included and they test and vet those macros per the definition of purpose and 
the standards set forth for this repository.

73, phil, K7PEH


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Re: [Elecraft] Macro programming for KX3

[Matt VK2RQ]

I had a quick look at the programmer's reference, and saw some commands:
IC will read the status of the OFS LED
MP can be used to set the VFO OFS menu setting (maybe setting to off and back 
to on will put the OFS LED in a known state?)
SWT can be used to tap the OFS knob, which will toggle the LED

Maybe if you have a play with these commands you'll find out what is possible.

73,
Matt VK2RQ

> On 11 Mar 2015, at 6:37 am, geoff allsup  wrote:
> 
> Been playing with macros a bit and am wondering if there is a command 
> available to set the Offset/VFO B control to VFO B? Haven't spotted something 
> like that in the programmer's reference.
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Macro programming for KX3

[Don Wilhelm]

Geoff,

Switch 35 Tap will toggle it.  I do not see an explicit command to set 
it to VFO B.

You can explicitly set the frequency of VFO B with the FB command.
I do not understand the utility of simply changing the Offset/VFO B 
switch if you have to turn the knob.  If it is set incorrectly, just tap 
the knob - but then, you have apparently not presented the entire 
picture of what you are trying to accomplish via the macro.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 3/10/2015 3:37 PM, geoff allsup wrote:
Been playing with macros a bit and am wondering if there is a command 
available to set the Offset/VFO B control to VFO B? Haven't spotted 
something like that in the programmer's reference.




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[Elecraft] Macro programming for KX3

[geoff allsup]

Been playing with macros a bit and am wondering if there is a command 
available to set the Offset/VFO B control to VFO B? Haven't spotted 
something like that in the programmer's reference.


geoff - W1OH

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Re: [Elecraft] Macro for Speakers & Mic

[evetsmd]

OK Phil...thanks, if u remeber could u post the macros when you get home.
Thanks very much

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Re: [Elecraft] Macro for Speakers & Mic

[Phil Hystad]

Follow up on the comment I made below...

Actually, I remember that I made two macros.  This is because I do CW a lot
and I wanted to switch my speaker and CM500 headphones separately from
switching the mics.  So, a macro for switching speaker/headphones.  And, a
macro for switching front and rear microphones.

peh


> On Nov 16, 2014, at 7:44 AM, Phil Hystad  wrote:
> 
> Yes, it can be done.  The very first macro I ever did for my K3 was
> switching between the front panel mic and speaker to the rear panel
> connected CM500.
> 
> Unfortunately, I am not at home right now so I can't just go up and
> show you the commands but the key to these macros working is that
> the settings are reflexive (i.e. switch back and forth).
> 
> 73, phil, K7PEH
> 
> 
>> On Nov 16, 2014, at 7:13 AM, evetsmd  wrote:
>> 
>> I use an Icom SM-8 desktop and Yamaha CM500 headset with my K3. I'd like to
>> switch back and forth using some macro keys
>> - switch mics making sure only one mic is live at a time,
>> - shut speaker on/off
>> -  set bias as needed
>> - adjust tx equalizer for the CM500 and then be able to put it back as it
>> was for the SM-8
>> 
>> can I do all of this in a macro?  
>> I have no experience using macros on a K3..any help or advice will be
>> appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Steve
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Macro for Speakers & Mic

[Phil Hystad]

Yes, it can be done.  The very first macro I ever did for my K3 was
switching between the front panel mic and speaker to the rear panel
connected CM500.

Unfortunately, I am not at home right now so I can't just go up and
show you the commands but the key to these macros working is that
the settings are reflexive (i.e. switch back and forth).

73, phil, K7PEH


> On Nov 16, 2014, at 7:13 AM, evetsmd  wrote:
> 
> I use an Icom SM-8 desktop and Yamaha CM500 headset with my K3. I'd like to
> switch back and forth using some macro keys
> - switch mics making sure only one mic is live at a time,
> - shut speaker on/off
> -  set bias as needed
> - adjust tx equalizer for the CM500 and then be able to put it back as it
> was for the SM-8
> 
> can I do all of this in a macro?  
> I have no experience using macros on a K3..any help or advice will be
> appreciated.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> 
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[Elecraft] Macro for Speakers & Mic

[evetsmd]

I use an Icom SM-8 desktop and Yamaha CM500 headset with my K3. I'd like to
switch back and forth using some macro keys
- switch mics making sure only one mic is live at a time,
- shut speaker on/off
-  set bias as needed
- adjust tx equalizer for the CM500 and then be able to put it back as it
was for the SM-8

can I do all of this in a macro?  
I have no experience using macros on a K3..any help or advice will be
appreciated.

Thanks

Steve
 



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[Elecraft] macro with a serial number

[BILL]

does any one know how to write a macro for the P3 SVGA  adapter that 
will give you a serial number for  a contest exchange.


and would they be willing to show me or tell me how?
Thank you,

I just figured out that the K3 with out a computer would be neater than 
a truck full of good Humors


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[Elecraft] Macro to control KPA500

[Bob Wolbert, K6XX]

Here is how I toggle KPA500 power from the K3 front panel. I have used it
for a couple of months on my remote station that is controlled by a
prototype K3/0 terminal. It consists of a K3 macro and an additional wire in
the AUX cable between the K3 and the KPA500. This simple control is all that
is really necessary for remotely operating the amp, as it works along with
the AuxBus communications to both enable/disable the amp and also report
what the amp is doing. Amplifier status (power ON, OPER mode, power OFF), as
well as any faults that occur are reported via AuxBus and show up on the
K3's VFO B screen. Even **remotely** on the K3/0!

When you use the KPA500's PWR ON = OPER command to immediately enable
OPERate mode when power is turned ON, switching power has basically the same
effect as toggling between OPER or STBY mode. The main difference is that
instead of being powered ON in standby mode, the amp turns off. Since the
MOSFETs have no filaments to wear during power cycling, this does not
present a problem. 

If the amp faults, a message appears on the controlling K3's VFO B display.
Press the macro key once to turn OFF the amp, then again to turn it back on.
(Then turn down the drive power a watt or two so it doesn't happen again!)

Implementation requires two steps.

1) Add a wire to the aux cable connecting DIGOUT1 on the K3 ACC jack to
POWER ON/OFF (Pin 8) on the KPA500 AUX connector.

2) With K3 Utility, program this macro into a K3 function key. (I used PF2,
but any should work).
 
MN019;MP001;MN255;MN019;MP000;MN255

This macro turns ON DIGOUT1, waits, then turns OFF DIGOUT1. This is
functionally identical to momentarily pressing the KPA500's front panel
power button.

Since this is the first K3 macro I have written, and since it worked the
first time, I did not bother to optimize it to use the minimum reliable wait
times. It is fast enough for my purposes, but you may want to reduce
(eliminate?) the waits.

Known Problem:
DIGOUT1 is used by the PR6 6-meter preamplifier to turn it on and off. I
have the PR6 and formerly used this function. With the AUX cable modified
the way I describe, each time you QSY to 6m, the amp toggles power. Since
this is annoying, I chose to disconnect the white power control wire on the
PR6 and let it run all the time, instead of only when I am on 6m. Then, I
turned OFF DIGOUT1 on 6m (in the K3 menu). Problem addressed, and as far as
I'm concerned, solved...

The K3+K3/0 twin remote station works great and the KPA500 was added without
requiring yet another serial port to manage and access remotely.


73 de Bob, K6XX
  

> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Tony Estep
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 9:30 AM
> To: Elecraft
> Subject: [Elecraft] macro to control KPA500
> 
> My abject apologies if this has been posted before, but.can I
> create a K3 macro to toggle OPER/STDBY on my KPA500?
> 
> Tony KT0NY

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Re: [Elecraft] macro to control KPA500

[Jim Wiley]

Sorry, wrong answer!   HONK!!  Try again.   And, using Google is 
cheating.  Shame shame. 


- Jim



Joe K2UF wrote:
> First used in an email from KL7CC to Elecraft users.  This has to be the
> first use of the term because GOOGLE never heard of it ;o[
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Re: [Elecraft] macro to control KPA500

[Joe K2UF]

First used in an email from KL7CC to Elecraft users.  This has to be the
first use of the term because GOOGLE never heard of it ;o[

Joe K2UF

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Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 7:18 PM
To: Cady, Fred
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] macro to control KPA500

Perhaps it is measured in milliAubs.  Prizes to the first person to 
identify  where this unit is first mentioned! :-)


- Jim, KL7CC


Cady, Fred wrote:
> But that would be a rate and it might be pretty big :-)
>
>  
>
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 4:44 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
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>
> If you measure the hand motion required in furlongs/fortnight, it's a
> very small number...
>
> 73, Mike NF4L
>
> On 1/31/2012 3:34 PM, Tony Estep wrote:
>   
>> Thanks to all who kindly replied to my query. I am completely 
>> convinced that it can't be done.
>>
>> As I said to Dick Dievendorff, I was hoping to save a few hundred 
>> gram-centimeters of work per day, maybe even more on a busy day. Now 
>> that hope is gone, and I have expended even more by writing the 
>> original query and this email; that's energy I'll never get back. Such
>> 
>
>   
>> is life.
>>
>> 73,
>> Tony KT0NY
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Re: [Elecraft] macro to control KPA500

[Jim Wiley]

Perhaps it is measured in milliAubs.  Prizes to the first person to 
identify  where this unit is first mentioned! :-)


- Jim, KL7CC


Cady, Fred wrote:
> But that would be a rate and it might be pretty big :-)
>
>  
>
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> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mike
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 4:44 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] macro to control KPA500
>
> If you measure the hand motion required in furlongs/fortnight, it's a
> very small number...
>
> 73, Mike NF4L
>
> On 1/31/2012 3:34 PM, Tony Estep wrote:
>   
>> Thanks to all who kindly replied to my query. I am completely 
>> convinced that it can't be done.
>>
>> As I said to Dick Dievendorff, I was hoping to save a few hundred 
>> gram-centimeters of work per day, maybe even more on a busy day. Now 
>> that hope is gone, and I have expended even more by writing the 
>> original query and this email; that's energy I'll never get back. Such
>> 
>
>   
>> is life.
>>
>> 73,
>> Tony KT0NY
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Re: [Elecraft] macro to control KPA500

[Cady, Fred]

But that would be a rate and it might be pretty big :-)

 

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mike
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 4:44 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] macro to control KPA500

If you measure the hand motion required in furlongs/fortnight, it's a
very small number...

73, Mike NF4L

On 1/31/2012 3:34 PM, Tony Estep wrote:
> Thanks to all who kindly replied to my query. I am completely 
> convinced that it can't be done.
>
> As I said to Dick Dievendorff, I was hoping to save a few hundred 
> gram-centimeters of work per day, maybe even more on a busy day. Now 
> that hope is gone, and I have expended even more by writing the 
> original query and this email; that's energy I'll never get back. Such

> is life.
>
> 73,
> Tony KT0NY
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Re: [Elecraft] macro to control KPA500

[Mike]

If you measure the hand motion required in furlongs/fortnight, it's a very 
small 
number...

73, Mike NF4L

On 1/31/2012 3:34 PM, Tony Estep wrote:
> Thanks to all who kindly replied to my query. I am completely
> convinced that it can't be done.
>
> As I said to Dick Dievendorff, I was hoping to save a few hundred
> gram-centimeters of work per day, maybe even more on a busy day. Now
> that hope is gone, and I have expended even more by writing the
> original query and this email; that's energy I'll never get back. Such
> is life.
>
> 73,
> Tony KT0NY
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Re: [Elecraft] macro to control KPA500

[Tony Estep]

Thanks to all who kindly replied to my query. I am completely
convinced that it can't be done.

As I said to Dick Dievendorff, I was hoping to save a few hundred
gram-centimeters of work per day, maybe even more on a busy day. Now
that hope is gone, and I have expended even more by writing the
original query and this email; that's energy I'll never get back. Such
is life.

73,
Tony KT0NY
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Re: [Elecraft] macro to control KPA500

[iain macdonnell - N6ML]

On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Tony Estep  wrote:
> My abject apologies if this has been posted before, but.can I
> create a K3 macro to toggle OPER/STDBY on my KPA500?

No, I don't believe so. The only data that's passed from the K3 to the
KPA500 is the band-data. The AUXBUS carries status back from the
KPA500 to K3, but only in that direction (AFAIK).

~iain / N6ML
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[Elecraft] macro to control KPA500

[Tony Estep]

My abject apologies if this has been posted before, but.can I
create a K3 macro to toggle OPER/STDBY on my KPA500?

Tony KT0NY


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Re: [Elecraft] Macro help needed

[Wayne Burdick]

Hi Joe,

You can turn the sub RX on/off using "SB1;" and "SB0;". No need to use  
the SWT48 switch emulation command, which toggles.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On Jan 7, 2012, at 12:33 PM, Joe K2UF wrote:

> I have two macros one on 'm1' and one on 'm2'.  Both enable 'split'  
> and
> 'sub' (swt48).  M1  splits up 1  and m2 splits up two.  I hit m1   
> radio is
> split and sub is on.  The problem is if  if I hit m1 or m2 again  
> 'sub' gets
> turned off.  Is there a way I can check if 'sub' is on then not  
> execute the
> swt48?
>
> Joe K2UF
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[Elecraft] Macro help needed

[Joe K2UF]

I have two macros one on 'm1' and one on 'm2'.  Both enable 'split' and
'sub' (swt48).  M1  splits up 1  and m2 splits up two.  I hit m1  radio is
split and sub is on.  The problem is if  if I hit m1 or m2 again 'sub' gets
turned off.  Is there a way I can check if 'sub' is on then not execute the
swt48?

Joe K2UF 

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Re: [Elecraft] Macro

[w7ij]

This macro is very useful; however, it can get you into a little trouble
with the UP UP Cops if you are in split mode when you access the macro and
forget to turn split off.  The cure is to add the FT0 command to the end of
the string.  This will take you out of split and does nothing if you are not
in split mode.

RC;RT0;XT0;SWT13;SWT13;SB1;UP5;FT0;

Thanks to Jim for a very nice macro.

Bill - w7ij

-Original Message-
From: Jim McCook [mailto:w...@cox.net] 
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 7:52 AM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] Macro

This is a K-3 macro that I find useful for general DXing.

To start, assume you are calling a DX station that has several other 
callers.You may have used your RIT or XIT or both, in order to get his 
attention on the best frequency.Suddenly he announces that he's 
listening "up." You need to "split," and fast, in order to be one of the 
first callers.You also must turn off the RIT/XIT, bring both receivers 
to the same frequency, and start tuning the pileup with the sub receiver.

The other situation is that you arrive on frequency when the DX station 
is already listening to a pileup higher in frequency.The drill is 
similar.  In both these situations you must remember to turn off the 
split afterward.

By pushing one button, such as PF1, you initiate a macro that does the 
following:

   1. Clears the RIT and/or XIT
   2. Turns off RIT and XIT in case they were on
   3. A>B (all) so both main and sub receiver are identical (if filters
  are identical)
   4. Turn on the sub receiver
   5. Move the main receiver up 2 Khz.

Here is the string:

RC;RT0;XT0;SWT13;SWT13;SB1;UP5;

L mix R is set to A Ab.Now you use the _main_ receiver to tune the 
pileup and transmit to the DX station.You did not use the SPLIT button. 
By avoiding its use you reduce the chance for transmitting on the wrong 
frequency later if you forget to turn it off.You transmit where you are 
listening in the pileup with the main vfo.

To return to normal, simply toggle the sub receiver off with a single 
keystroke.

73, Jim
W6YA


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[Elecraft] Macro

[Jim McCook]

This is a K-3 macro that I find useful for general DXing.

To start, assume you are calling a DX station that has several other 
callers.You may have used your RIT or XIT or both, in order to get his 
attention on the best frequency.Suddenly he announces that he's 
listening "up." You need to "split," and fast, in order to be one of the 
first callers.You also must turn off the RIT/XIT, bring both receivers 
to the same frequency, and start tuning the pileup with the sub receiver.

The other situation is that you arrive on frequency when the DX station 
is already listening to a pileup higher in frequency.The drill is 
similar.  In both these situations you must remember to turn off the 
split afterward.

By pushing one button, such as PF1, you initiate a macro that does the 
following:

   1. Clears the RIT and/or XIT
   2. Turns off RIT and XIT in case they were on
   3. A>B (all) so both main and sub receiver are identical (if filters
  are identical)
   4. Turn on the sub receiver
   5. Move the main receiver up 2 Khz.

Here is the string:

RC;RT0;XT0;SWT13;SWT13;SB1;UP5;

L mix R is set to A Ab.Now you use the _main_ receiver to tune the 
pileup and transmit to the DX station.You did not use the SPLIT button. 
By avoiding its use you reduce the chance for transmitting on the wrong 
frequency later if you forget to turn it off.You transmit where you are 
listening in the pileup with the main vfo.

To return to normal, simply toggle the sub receiver off with a single 
keystroke.

73, Jim
W6YA


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Re: [Elecraft] Macro for Power Output

[Dick Dievendorff]

It's the PC command.  See the K3 Programmer's Reference.  PC005; should set
it to 5 watts, PC050; to 50, etc.

Dick, K6KR


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Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 11:10 AM
To: K8AC
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Macro for Power Output

What is the K3 macro command set for setting power?

I would think if I had that info I could also build a macro in HRD.

Don
KD8NNU


On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 1:53 PM, K8AC wrote:

> At least one logging package, DXLab, provides the necessary 
> conditional statements that allow you to build scripts attached to 
> buttons or sliders that can accomplish this.  For example, I have one 
> button that appears in the "Commander" (the DXLab application that 
> does PC to K3
> communications)
> window  that reads the band the K3 is set to and then sets the power 
> out to the value that produces just under the legal limit for my amp 
> on that band. Using the same facility, you could define a "slider" 
> control that would increment or decrement the power level by a fixed 
> value each time it was moused.  Or, you could drag the slider to set 
> any desired power level.
> Since standard K3 commands are used, when the power level is changed 
> via one of these controls, the new power level is displayed on the 
> VFO-B section of the display just as if you had turned the PWR knob.
> 73, Floyd - K8AC
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Re: [Elecraft] Macro for Power Output

[goldtr8]

What is the K3 macro command set for setting power?

I would think if I had that info I could also build a macro in HRD.

Don
KD8NNU


On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 1:53 PM, K8AC wrote:

> At least one logging package, DXLab, provides the necessary 
> conditional
> statements that allow you to build scripts attached to buttons or 
> sliders
> that can accomplish this.  For example, I have one button that appears 
> in
> the "Commander" (the DXLab application that does PC to K3 
> communications)
> window  that reads the band the K3 is set to and then sets the power 
> out to
> the value that produces just under the legal limit for my amp on that 
> band. Using the same facility, you could define a "slider" control 
> that would
> increment or decrement the power level by a fixed value each time it 
> was
> moused.  Or, you could drag the slider to set any desired power level. 
> Since standard K3 commands are used, when the power level is changed 
> via one
> of these controls, the new power level is displayed on the VFO-B 
> section of
> the display just as if you had turned the PWR knob.
> 73, Floyd - K8AC
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Macro for Power Output

[K8AC]

At least one logging package, DXLab, provides the necessary conditional
statements that allow you to build scripts attached to buttons or sliders
that can accomplish this.  For example, I have one button that appears in
the "Commander" (the DXLab application that does PC to K3 communications)
window  that reads the band the K3 is set to and then sets the power out to
the value that produces just under the legal limit for my amp on that band. 
Using the same facility, you could define a "slider" control that would
increment or decrement the power level by a fixed value each time it was
moused.  Or, you could drag the slider to set any desired power level. 
Since standard K3 commands are used, when the power level is changed via one
of these controls, the new power level is displayed on the VFO-B section of
the display just as if you had turned the PWR knob.  

73, Floyd - K8AC

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Re: [Elecraft] Macro for Power Output

[Don Wilhelm]

  Lee,

The PC command is both a GET and SET command (see Programmer's reference 
for syntax), so yes macros can be created to set the power.
A process where the "nnn" value would be varied requires some "smarts" 
in the device sending the macro,
Note that the number in the "nnn" value is dependent on the power range, 
so additional commands may be necessary.

It really sounds like you want more computation than is afforded by only 
a macro.
i.e. Find the power range, change it if required, compute the correct 
value for "nnn", and then send the PCnnn command.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 3/12/2011 8:43 AM, Lee Buller wrote:
> I have not studied the issue in depth if it can be done, but is there a way to
> set a macro to step through power settings on the K3 like between 100 watts 
> and
> 35 watts.  Or a macro that sets 25 - 50 - 75 - 100 watts?
>
> Lee - K0WA
>
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[Elecraft] Macro for Power Output

[Lee Buller]

I have not studied the issue in depth if it can be done, but is there a way to 
set a macro to step through power settings on the K3 like between 100 watts and 
35 watts.  Or a macro that sets 25 - 50 - 75 - 100 watts?

Lee - K0WA


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