Re: [Elecraft] Parts availability
If you email elecraft support they can tell you if they have any in stock. The last time I needed a part for my KX3 they didn't have any, but gave me the Mouser part number so I could get it my self. Eric KI7LTT On Sat, Apr 13, 2024, 7:14 PM Chris wrote: > Hello, > > I am looking for E620021 and E620044 parts to make voltage and frequency > probes. Does anyone know where I can buy them from a third-party > supplier? Are they available from Elecraft? > > Many thanks, > > Chris KM1B > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to garn...@gmail.com > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Parts availability
Hello, I am looking for E620021 and E620044 parts to make voltage and frequency probes. Does anyone know where I can buy them from a third-party supplier? Are they available from Elecraft? Many thanks, Chris KM1B __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Parts availability
Vladimir Lenin allegedly said: "The Capitalist will sell you the rope that we can use to hang him." Lenin was right even if he actually didn't say it. My last words on the subject. 73, Lou KE1F On 10/19/2021 21:12, James Driskell wrote: Reactionary, my left foot! What happens the next time something like this happens (and it will but who knows when). My suggestion centered around determining what is necessary to ensure that we continue to enjoy a semblance of normalcy when something happens. For instance, if the US were to have a falling out with China trade wise where would we get the necessary electronics and other high-tech items essential for our economy to function. Can we produce these essential items in CONUS? We had the luxury of a reasonably vibrant manufacturing base prior to our entry in WWII but it still took time (at the cost of lives) to get production cranked up to meet the demand. "Those who do not study history are doomed to repeat it!" James M Driskell W7OWI From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net on behalf of David Gilbert Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 17:57 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Parts availability Just In Time and its corollary concepts brought amazing efficiencies to global manufacturing for decades and enabled cost reductions that we now take for granted. I know that first hand ... I was the operations manager for a large division of a major semiconductor company for many years. I think it is exceedingly lame to denigrate the entire concept because a once-in-a century global pandemic brought the world supply chain to its knees. It's not only JIT adherents that are running out of parts, and I'd bet that the contractual relationships that major JIT manufacturers have with their suppliers means that they are going to get their parts before the ones who don't. Who do you think is going to get components first ... Elecraft or Hewlett-Packard? It's crazy how some people try to use an aberration to justify a reactionary bias. Dave AB7E On 10/18/2021 4:24 PM, James Driskell wrote: Unfortunately, the "Just In Time" concept that many US manufacturers have built their businesses around never considered the "you're never going to get it" approach that we now see. I hope someone is taking a hard look at our national resource network because if the balloon goes up, we're going to have a hard time cranking up the domestic supply chain to meet our basic needs. We probably won't have the luxury of being able to take our time to get it running. Jim W7OWI __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jmdrisk...@msn.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to lmecs...@cfl.rr.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Parts availability
Reactionary, my left foot! What happens the next time something like this happens (and it will but who knows when). My suggestion centered around determining what is necessary to ensure that we continue to enjoy a semblance of normalcy when something happens. For instance, if the US were to have a falling out with China trade wise where would we get the necessary electronics and other high-tech items essential for our economy to function. Can we produce these essential items in CONUS? We had the luxury of a reasonably vibrant manufacturing base prior to our entry in WWII but it still took time (at the cost of lives) to get production cranked up to meet the demand. "Those who do not study history are doomed to repeat it!" James M Driskell W7OWI From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net on behalf of David Gilbert Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 17:57 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Parts availability Just In Time and its corollary concepts brought amazing efficiencies to global manufacturing for decades and enabled cost reductions that we now take for granted. I know that first hand ... I was the operations manager for a large division of a major semiconductor company for many years. I think it is exceedingly lame to denigrate the entire concept because a once-in-a century global pandemic brought the world supply chain to its knees. It's not only JIT adherents that are running out of parts, and I'd bet that the contractual relationships that major JIT manufacturers have with their suppliers means that they are going to get their parts before the ones who don't. Who do you think is going to get components first ... Elecraft or Hewlett-Packard? It's crazy how some people try to use an aberration to justify a reactionary bias. Dave AB7E On 10/18/2021 4:24 PM, James Driskell wrote: > Unfortunately, the "Just In Time" concept that many US manufacturers have > built their businesses around never considered the "you're never going to get > it" approach that we now see. I hope someone is taking a hard look at our > national resource network because if the balloon goes up, we're going to have > a hard time cranking up the domestic supply chain to meet our basic needs. > We probably won't have the luxury of being able to take our time to get it > running. > > Jim W7OWI > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jmdrisk...@msn.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Parts availability
They are available on Amazon, 20 pcs for $10.95. Others are available in lesser quantities. Today, I'm finding AMAZON is a good place to look for and purchase electronic parts. 73 Bob, K4TAX On 10/19/2021 3:16 PM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote: Message: 3 Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 21:53:48 + From: Lou Mecseri To:elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Parts availability Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed My friend's refrigerator fan died. No replacement or substitute (one they tried was 80dB loud) available. Replacement cost, and he is lucky, $2,000 fir a new one. Super efficiency is a dangerous thing for society and for business. At the same time, maintaining complete part replacement is damaging to profit. You figure, what is the right balance? 73 Lou KE1F __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Parts availability
Another contribution to the problem is west coast shipping terminals and truck drivers to receive to receive and unload containers. Twenty+ ships waiting for their turn to unload. Sometimes weeks. I'm in the Seattle area and we get updates on the news lately. Gil W7GIL > Amen Jim. > > Phil AB7WE > >> On Oct 18, 2021, at 4:26 PM, James Driskell wrote: >> >> Unfortunately, the "Just In Time" concept that many US manufacturers >> have built their businesses around never considered the "you're never >> going to get it" approach that we now see. I hope someone is taking a >> hard look at our national resource network because if the balloon goes >> up, we're going to have a hard time cranking up the domestic supply >> chain to meet our basic needs. We probably won't have the luxury of >> being able to take our time to get it running. >> >> Jim W7OWI >> >> >> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net >> on behalf of Alan Bloom >> >> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 14:36 >> To: Elecraft Reflector ; elecraft...@groups.io >> >> Subject: [Elecraft] Parts availability >> >> Recently I tried to order some electronic parts for a project I am >> working on. In the old days (like, a year ago) I would just get on the >> Digi-Key web site, order what I want, and it would arrive in the mail >> in >> a few days. >> >> These days, there are a LOT of parts on the Digi-Key web site that show >> no availability. I wanted to buy 10 standard, run-of-the-mill LM358 >> op-amps in an 8-pin DIP package. This is a 25 cent part that has been >> around for decades. They had none in stock in that quantity, from any >> manufacturer. I ended up ordering a couple in the old-fashioned TO-5 >> metal can package for *10 bucks each*. At least they did have some of >> those in stock. >> >> I also wanted to buy a ceramic capacitor assortment. They listed 6 >> assortments that would have worked for me, but all were out of stock. >> >> Manufacturers with "just in time" parts ordering systems are in a world >> of hurt these days. Fortunately I don't think Elecraft ever went down >> that path. >> >> Alan N1AL >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmailman.qth.net%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Felecraftdata=04%7C01%7C%7C605a2fc082f24e6a252108d9928ea801%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637701963674221560%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=AlX3XoyLcFGhgtRhwjLXpg%2BmE6GJXYajmW0jqw4JhMs%3Dreserved=0 >> Help: >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmailman.qth.net%2Fmmfaq.htmdata=04%7C01%7C%7C605a2fc082f24e6a252108d9928ea801%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637701963674221560%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=MwLC6k2gRQfnzSc6KmcucQFRznMvTjyKmeSaGD1fszE%3Dreserved=0 >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.qsl.net%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C605a2fc082f24e6a252108d9928ea801%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637701963674221560%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=9aRoAmxDbFmTINJLf%2FQ4cW3e7nankRGFipRuud2tY7A%3Dreserved=0 >> Please help support this email list: >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.qsl.net%2Fdonate.htmldata=04%7C01%7C%7C605a2fc082f24e6a252108d9928ea801%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637701963674221560%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=bg0%2FjDR40hXymWWajzqbxb5dVrU6ePLfo3hMevIKi3A%3Dreserved=0 >> Message delivered to jmdrisk...@msn.com >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmailman.qth.net%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Felecraftdata=04%7C01%7C%7C605a2fc082f24e6a252108d9928ea801%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637701963674221560%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=AlX3XoyLcFGhgtRhwjLXpg%2BmE6GJXYajmW0jqw4JhMs%3Dreserved=0 >> Help: >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmailman.qth.net%2Fmmfaq.htmdata=04%7C01%7C%7C605a2fc082f24e6a252108d9928ea801%7C84df9e7
Re: [Elecraft] Parts availability
Problem is that you have no idea what you’re going to get, especially when there are shortages. Best to stick with franchised distributors, like Mouser & Digikey. Else you may end up with Chinese counterfeits. 73 Josh W6XU Sent from my iPad > On Oct 18, 2021, at 4:58 PM, myflyertra...@cfl.rr.com wrote: > > I just searched LM358 on Amazon and found 3 pages. You can even get > 100 delivered tomorrow for $9.99. Amazon is often a great choice for > parts, especially if you are in a hurry like me. lol __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Parts availability
Just In Time and its corollary concepts brought amazing efficiencies to global manufacturing for decades and enabled cost reductions that we now take for granted. I know that first hand ... I was the operations manager for a large division of a major semiconductor company for many years. I think it is exceedingly lame to denigrate the entire concept because a once-in-a century global pandemic brought the world supply chain to its knees. It's not only JIT adherents that are running out of parts, and I'd bet that the contractual relationships that major JIT manufacturers have with their suppliers means that they are going to get their parts before the ones who don't. Who do you think is going to get components first ... Elecraft or Hewlett-Packard? It's crazy how some people try to use an aberration to justify a reactionary bias. Dave AB7E On 10/18/2021 4:24 PM, James Driskell wrote: Unfortunately, the "Just In Time" concept that many US manufacturers have built their businesses around never considered the "you're never going to get it" approach that we now see. I hope someone is taking a hard look at our national resource network because if the balloon goes up, we're going to have a hard time cranking up the domestic supply chain to meet our basic needs. We probably won't have the luxury of being able to take our time to get it running. Jim W7OWI __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Parts availability
Hello, I just searched LM358 on Amazon and found 3 pages. You can even get 100 delivered tomorrow for $9.99. Amazon is often a great choice for parts, especially if you are in a hurry like me. lol Now actually there is a problem that manufactures long ago went to surface mount parts, and few places are making or carrying thru hole parts. Yes, I hate it too but that is the way it is. There are nifty little adapter boards though that will adapt a surface mount 8 pin IC to a dip. Surface mount parts are often much cheaper too, much... 73 Chuck K8LBHWinter Park, FL -From: "Alan Bloom" To: "Elecraft Reflector" Cc: Sent: Monday October 18 2021 5:38:20PM Subject: [Elecraft] Parts availability Recently I tried to order some electronic parts for a project I am working on. In the old days (like, a year ago) I would just get on the Digi-Key web site, order what I want, and it would arrive in the mail in a few days. These days, there are a LOT of parts on the Digi-Key web site that show no availability. I wanted to buy 10 standard, run-of-the-mill LM358 op-amps in an 8-pin DIP package. This is a 25 cent part that has been around for decades. They had none in stock in that quantity, from any manufacturer. I ended up ordering a couple in the old-fashioned TO-5 metal can package for *10 bucks each*. At least they did have some of those in stock. I also wanted to buy a ceramic capacitor assortment. They listed 6 assortments that would have worked for me, but all were out of stock. Manufacturers with "just in time" parts ordering systems are in a world of hurt these days. Fortunately I don't think Elecraft ever went down that path. Alan N1AL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft /> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm /> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net [1] Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html /> Message delivered to myflyertra...@cfl.rr.com Links: -- [1] http://www.qsl.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Parts availability
Amen Jim. Phil AB7WE > On Oct 18, 2021, at 4:26 PM, James Driskell wrote: > > Unfortunately, the "Just In Time" concept that many US manufacturers have > built their businesses around never considered the "you're never going to get > it" approach that we now see. I hope someone is taking a hard look at our > national resource network because if the balloon goes up, we're going to have > a hard time cranking up the domestic supply chain to meet our basic needs. > We probably won't have the luxury of being able to take our time to get it > running. > > Jim W7OWI > > > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net on > behalf of Alan Bloom > Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 14:36 > To: Elecraft Reflector ; elecraft...@groups.io > > Subject: [Elecraft] Parts availability > > Recently I tried to order some electronic parts for a project I am > working on. In the old days (like, a year ago) I would just get on the > Digi-Key web site, order what I want, and it would arrive in the mail in > a few days. > > These days, there are a LOT of parts on the Digi-Key web site that show > no availability. I wanted to buy 10 standard, run-of-the-mill LM358 > op-amps in an 8-pin DIP package. This is a 25 cent part that has been > around for decades. They had none in stock in that quantity, from any > manufacturer. I ended up ordering a couple in the old-fashioned TO-5 > metal can package for *10 bucks each*. At least they did have some of > those in stock. > > I also wanted to buy a ceramic capacitor assortment. They listed 6 > assortments that would have worked for me, but all were out of stock. > > Manufacturers with "just in time" parts ordering systems are in a world > of hurt these days. Fortunately I don't think Elecraft ever went down > that path. > > Alan N1AL > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmailman.qth.net%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Felecraftdata=04%7C01%7C%7C605a2fc082f24e6a252108d9928ea801%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637701963674221560%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=AlX3XoyLcFGhgtRhwjLXpg%2BmE6GJXYajmW0jqw4JhMs%3Dreserved=0 > Help: > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmailman.qth.net%2Fmmfaq.htmdata=04%7C01%7C%7C605a2fc082f24e6a252108d9928ea801%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637701963674221560%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=MwLC6k2gRQfnzSc6KmcucQFRznMvTjyKmeSaGD1fszE%3Dreserved=0 > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.qsl.net%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C605a2fc082f24e6a252108d9928ea801%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637701963674221560%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=9aRoAmxDbFmTINJLf%2FQ4cW3e7nankRGFipRuud2tY7A%3Dreserved=0 > Please help support this email list: > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.qsl.net%2Fdonate.htmldata=04%7C01%7C%7C605a2fc082f24e6a252108d9928ea801%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637701963674221560%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=bg0%2FjDR40hXymWWajzqbxb5dVrU6ePLfo3hMevIKi3A%3Dreserved=0 > Message delivered to jmdrisk...@msn.com > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmailman.qth.net%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Felecraftdata=04%7C01%7C%7C605a2fc082f24e6a252108d9928ea801%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637701963674221560%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=AlX3XoyLcFGhgtRhwjLXpg%2BmE6GJXYajmW0jqw4JhMs%3Dreserved=0 > Help: > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmailman.qth.net%2Fmmfaq.htmdata=04%7C01%7C%7C605a2fc082f24e6a252108d9928ea801%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637701963674221560%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=MwLC6k2gRQfnzSc6KmcucQFRznMvTjyKmeSaGD1fszE%3Dreserved=0 > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.qsl.net%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C605a2fc082f24e6a252108d9928ea801%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637701963674221560%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luM
Re: [Elecraft] Parts availability
Unfortunately, the "Just In Time" concept that many US manufacturers have built their businesses around never considered the "you're never going to get it" approach that we now see. I hope someone is taking a hard look at our national resource network because if the balloon goes up, we're going to have a hard time cranking up the domestic supply chain to meet our basic needs. We probably won't have the luxury of being able to take our time to get it running. Jim W7OWI From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net on behalf of Alan Bloom Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 14:36 To: Elecraft Reflector ; elecraft...@groups.io Subject: [Elecraft] Parts availability Recently I tried to order some electronic parts for a project I am working on. In the old days (like, a year ago) I would just get on the Digi-Key web site, order what I want, and it would arrive in the mail in a few days. These days, there are a LOT of parts on the Digi-Key web site that show no availability. I wanted to buy 10 standard, run-of-the-mill LM358 op-amps in an 8-pin DIP package. This is a 25 cent part that has been around for decades. They had none in stock in that quantity, from any manufacturer. I ended up ordering a couple in the old-fashioned TO-5 metal can package for *10 bucks each*. At least they did have some of those in stock. I also wanted to buy a ceramic capacitor assortment. They listed 6 assortments that would have worked for me, but all were out of stock. Manufacturers with "just in time" parts ordering systems are in a world of hurt these days. Fortunately I don't think Elecraft ever went down that path. Alan N1AL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jmdrisk...@msn.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Parts availability
n 2021-10-18 15:16, Ed K1EP wrote: Thousands in stock for <$0.50 at Mouser. This happened to me a few times lately. Digikey didn't have it, Mouser did. - Jerry KF6VB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Parts availability
Just in time works fine when you also have emergency stocks. Too many companies cut costs by not maintaining emergency stock and lack of multiple sources. On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 16:38 Alan Bloom wrote: > Recently I tried to order some relectronic parts for a project I am > working on. In the old days (like, a year ago) I would just get on the > Digi-Key web site, order what I want, and it would arrive in the mail in > a few days. > > These days, there are a LOT of parts on the Digi-Key web site that show > no availability. I wanted to buy 10 standard, run-of-the-mill LM358 > op-amps in an 8-pin DIP package. This is a 25 cent part that has been > around for decades. They had none in stock in that quantity, from any > manufacturer. I ended up ordering a couple in the old-fashioned TO-5 > metal can package for *10 bucks each*. At least they did have some of > those in stock. > > I also wanted to buy a ceramic capacitor assortment. They listed 6 > assortments that would have worked for me, but all were out of stock. > > Manufacturers with "just in time" parts ordering systems are in a world > of hurt these days. Fortunately I don't think Elecraft ever went down > that path. > > Alan N1AL > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ai4ns.m...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Parts availability
Thousands in stock for <$0.50 at Mouser. reply to: k...@arrl.net On Mon, Oct 18, 2021, 18:10 barry halterman wrote: > Check out MPJA.com as they have LM358p, ten for 2.95. > > On Mon, Oct 18, 2021, 5:55 PM Lou Mecseri wrote: > > > My friend's refrigerator fan died. No replacement or substitute (one > > they tried was 80dB loud) available. Replacement cost, and he is lucky, > > $2,000 fir a new one. > > > > Super efficiency is a dangerous thing for society and for business. At > > the same time, maintaining complete part replacement is damaging to > > profit. You figure, what is the right balance? > > > > 73 Lou KE1F > > > > On 10/18/2021 21:36, Alan Bloom wrote: > > > Recently I tried to order some electronic parts for a project I am > > > working on. In the old days (like, a year ago) I would just get on > > > the Digi-Key web site, order what I want, and it would arrive in the > > > mail in a few days. > > > > > > These days, there are a LOT of parts on the Digi-Key web site that > > > show no availability. I wanted to buy 10 standard, run-of-the-mill > > > LM358 op-amps in an 8-pin DIP package. This is a 25 cent part that > > > has been around for decades. They had none in stock in that quantity, > > > from any manufacturer. I ended up ordering a couple in the > > > old-fashioned TO-5 metal can package for *10 bucks each*. At least > > > they did have some of those in stock. > > > > > > I also wanted to buy a ceramic capacitor assortment. They listed 6 > > > assortments that would have worked for me, but all were out of stock. > > > > > > Manufacturers with "just in time" parts ordering systems are in a > > > world of hurt these days. Fortunately I don't think Elecraft ever > > > went down that path. > > > > > > Alan N1AL > > > __ > > > Elecraft mailing list > > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > Message delivered to lmecs...@cfl.rr.com > > __ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to kthre...@gmail.com > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k1ep.l...@gmail.com > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Parts availability
Check out MPJA.com as they have LM358p, ten for 2.95. On Mon, Oct 18, 2021, 5:55 PM Lou Mecseri wrote: > My friend's refrigerator fan died. No replacement or substitute (one > they tried was 80dB loud) available. Replacement cost, and he is lucky, > $2,000 fir a new one. > > Super efficiency is a dangerous thing for society and for business. At > the same time, maintaining complete part replacement is damaging to > profit. You figure, what is the right balance? > > 73 Lou KE1F > > On 10/18/2021 21:36, Alan Bloom wrote: > > Recently I tried to order some electronic parts for a project I am > > working on. In the old days (like, a year ago) I would just get on > > the Digi-Key web site, order what I want, and it would arrive in the > > mail in a few days. > > > > These days, there are a LOT of parts on the Digi-Key web site that > > show no availability. I wanted to buy 10 standard, run-of-the-mill > > LM358 op-amps in an 8-pin DIP package. This is a 25 cent part that > > has been around for decades. They had none in stock in that quantity, > > from any manufacturer. I ended up ordering a couple in the > > old-fashioned TO-5 metal can package for *10 bucks each*. At least > > they did have some of those in stock. > > > > I also wanted to buy a ceramic capacitor assortment. They listed 6 > > assortments that would have worked for me, but all were out of stock. > > > > Manufacturers with "just in time" parts ordering systems are in a > > world of hurt these days. Fortunately I don't think Elecraft ever > > went down that path. > > > > Alan N1AL > > __ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to lmecs...@cfl.rr.com > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kthre...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Parts availability
My friend's refrigerator fan died. No replacement or substitute (one they tried was 80dB loud) available. Replacement cost, and he is lucky, $2,000 fir a new one. Super efficiency is a dangerous thing for society and for business. At the same time, maintaining complete part replacement is damaging to profit. You figure, what is the right balance? 73 Lou KE1F On 10/18/2021 21:36, Alan Bloom wrote: Recently I tried to order some electronic parts for a project I am working on. In the old days (like, a year ago) I would just get on the Digi-Key web site, order what I want, and it would arrive in the mail in a few days. These days, there are a LOT of parts on the Digi-Key web site that show no availability. I wanted to buy 10 standard, run-of-the-mill LM358 op-amps in an 8-pin DIP package. This is a 25 cent part that has been around for decades. They had none in stock in that quantity, from any manufacturer. I ended up ordering a couple in the old-fashioned TO-5 metal can package for *10 bucks each*. At least they did have some of those in stock. I also wanted to buy a ceramic capacitor assortment. They listed 6 assortments that would have worked for me, but all were out of stock. Manufacturers with "just in time" parts ordering systems are in a world of hurt these days. Fortunately I don't think Elecraft ever went down that path. Alan N1AL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to lmecs...@cfl.rr.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Parts availability
Recently I tried to order some electronic parts for a project I am working on. In the old days (like, a year ago) I would just get on the Digi-Key web site, order what I want, and it would arrive in the mail in a few days. These days, there are a LOT of parts on the Digi-Key web site that show no availability. I wanted to buy 10 standard, run-of-the-mill LM358 op-amps in an 8-pin DIP package. This is a 25 cent part that has been around for decades. They had none in stock in that quantity, from any manufacturer. I ended up ordering a couple in the old-fashioned TO-5 metal can package for *10 bucks each*. At least they did have some of those in stock. I also wanted to buy a ceramic capacitor assortment. They listed 6 assortments that would have worked for me, but all were out of stock. Manufacturers with "just in time" parts ordering systems are in a world of hurt these days. Fortunately I don't think Elecraft ever went down that path. Alan N1AL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
