Re: [Elecraft] failed K3

[Bill Frantz]

I fully agree. When I have had a problem with my K3, mostly ones with my 
installing upgrades, I have gotten excellent support from Elecraft Support. 
They have told me how to signal trace through the radio, and I have been able 
to effect the necessary fixes my self. As I remember, the most recent one was a 
TMP cable which wasn’t correctly inserted in its socket. Signal tracing led me 
to the fix.

Now, knock on wood, I haven’t had to fix anything since Covid, so I don’t know 
how Elecraft remote support is working.

73 Bill AE6JV


> On Feb 26, 2022, at 09:37, Geert Jan de Groot  wrote:
> 
> Given that common faults are known and probably have been discussed on-list, 
> there are people here who know the radio well and there are even the odd 
> comments from techs on this list, I would have not send the radio without 
> self-investigating the fault.

> I've done repairs on most of my Elecraft kit and in many cases it is 
> something simple: connector issue, erratic encoders. Several issues are 
> published by Elecraft and you can easily do the re-work tourself. What I 
> didn't know I asked and the lists have been good. …



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Re: [Elecraft] failed K3

[rikoski]

>> On Feb 24, 2022, at 5:48 AM, rikoski > > wrote:
>> 
>> Here is my situation. I have an Elecraft K3 setup: K3 transceiver; Pan 
>> Adpter; KAT 500 tuner; KPA 500 , 500W power amp. All Elecraft, all plug 
>> compatible.
>> 
>> In January in the middle of a QSO, the Elecraft transceiver stopped working. 
>> I got return authorization and returned the transceiver to Elecraft for 
>> service. They say that because of the number of units returned to them, it 
>> will be another 2 months before they can get around to mine. So I'm off the 
>> air for 3 months..
>> 
>> So what to do? Give Elecraft $5000 for a new K4; Buy a Yaesu FT Dx 10 with a 
>> very good receiver but is not easily plugged into the Elecraft K line; Buy 
>> an Icom 7300 which I have familiarity with and will be easy to attach; Go on 
>> eBay and buy a used K3 and hope that it works; or buy something else?
>> 
>> When I get my K3 back, I either will keep what ever I buy now as a spare to 
>> use when the K3 fails again or sell off my entire K line and migrate away 
>> from Elecraft recognizing that their service is not like to improve and that 
>> I have alternatives.

> On Feb 26, 2022, at 10:25 AM, rikoski  wrote:
> 
> I have other things to do.
> 
>> On Feb 26, 2022, at 8:37 AM, Geert Jan de Groot  wrote:
>> 
>> On 24/02/2022 20:58, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:
>>> In January in the middle of a QSO, the Elecraft transceiver stopped 
>>> working. I got return authorization and returned the transceiver to 
>>> Elecraft for service. They say that because of the number of units returned 
>>> to them, it will be another 2 months before they can get around to mine. So 
>>> I'm off the air for 3 months..
>>> So what to do? 
>> 
>> So, what failed? We're licensed radio amateurs and have done exams on radio 
>> electronics; hence should know a thing or two about the inner workings.
>> 
>> Given that common faults are known and probably have been discussed on-list, 
>> there are people here who know the radio well and there are even the odd 
>> comments from techs on this list, I would have not send the radio without 
>> self-investigating the fault.
>> 
>> I've done repairs on most of my Elecraft kit and in many cases it is 
>> something simple: connector issue, erratic encoders. Several issues are 
>> published by Elecraft and you can easily do the re-work tourself. What I 
>> didn't know I asked and the lists have been good. The one exception is that 
>> getting Elecraft to fix firmware bugs for older products (K3, P3, KX2, KX3) 
>> has been difficult; since the software is closed-source this is a problem.
>> 
>> If anything, my future interest would be something with the hardware of 
>> elecraft but using an arrangement where once software development from the 
>> manufacturer has ended, maintenance can be done using open source.
>> 
>> Geert Jan
> 

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Re: [Elecraft] failed K3

[rikoski]

I have other things to do.

> On Feb 26, 2022, at 8:37 AM, Geert Jan de Groot  wrote:
> 
> On 24/02/2022 20:58, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:
>> In January in the middle of a QSO, the Elecraft transceiver stopped working. 
>> I got return authorization and returned the transceiver to Elecraft for 
>> service. They say that because of the number of units returned to them, it 
>> will be another 2 months before they can get around to mine. So I'm off the 
>> air for 3 months..
>> So what to do? 
> 
> So, what failed? We're licensed radio amateurs and have done exams on radio 
> electronics; hence should know a thing or two about the inner workings.
> 
> Given that common faults are known and probably have been discussed on-list, 
> there are people here who know the radio well and there are even the odd 
> comments from techs on this list, I would have not send the radio without 
> self-investigating the fault.
> 
> I've done repairs on most of my Elecraft kit and in many cases it is 
> something simple: connector issue, erratic encoders. Several issues are 
> published by Elecraft and you can easily do the re-work tourself. What I 
> didn't know I asked and the lists have been good. The one exception is that 
> getting Elecraft to fix firmware bugs for older products (K3, P3, KX2, KX3) 
> has been difficult; since the software is closed-source this is a problem.
> 
> If anything, my future interest would be something with the hardware of 
> elecraft but using an arrangement where once software development from the 
> manufacturer has ended, maintenance can be done using open source.
> 
> Geert Jan

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Re: [Elecraft] failed K3

[Geert Jan de Groot]

On 24/02/2022 20:58, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:

In January in the middle of a QSO, the Elecraft transceiver stopped working. I 
got return authorization and returned the transceiver to Elecraft for service. 
They say that because of the number of units returned to them, it will be 
another 2 months before they can get around to mine. So I'm off the air for 3 
months..
So what to do? 


So, what failed? We're licensed radio amateurs and have done exams on 
radio electronics; hence should know a thing or two about the inner 
workings.


Given that common faults are known and probably have been discussed 
on-list, there are people here who know the radio well and there are 
even the odd comments from techs on this list, I would have not send the 
radio without self-investigating the fault.


I've done repairs on most of my Elecraft kit and in many cases it is 
something simple: connector issue, erratic encoders. Several issues are 
published by Elecraft and you can easily do the re-work tourself. What I 
didn't know I asked and the lists have been good. The one exception is 
that getting Elecraft to fix firmware bugs for older products (K3, P3, 
KX2, KX3) has been difficult; since the software is closed-source this 
is a problem.


If anything, my future interest would be something with the hardware of 
elecraft but using an arrangement where once software development from 
the manufacturer has ended, maintenance can be done using open source.


Geert Jan
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[Elecraft] Failed K3

[Michael Carter]

Rick,

Can you provide more detail about how your K3 failed?

My impression from reading not only this reflector,
but also the K3 and K4 groups.io fora, is that Elecraft
is fully occupied with K4 support and firmware evolution.
Others note longer than historically observed service
times for units of any kind sent back for repair - not
unique to you.  I don't believe this backlog will persist
indefinitely.  Moreover, ordering a K4 now won't
shorten the delay in getting a radio - it seems the
last of the Group 2 orders for the K4, which were
mostly made in 2020, are just being fulfilled now.
Orders in Group 3 already made are looking at June/July 2022 for
shipment.

Could you approach a local ham friend who might
have a rig to loan?  It may not be plug-compatible
with the rest of your Elecraft gear, but it would
avoid need to purchase something at a time when
it seems like everything is back-ordered.

73,
Mike, K8CN


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Re: [Elecraft] Failed K3

[Wes]

TS-890

On 2/24/2022 6:46 AM, rikoski wrote:

Here is my situation. I have an Elecraft K3 setup: K3 transceiver; Pan Adpter; 
KAT 500 tuner; KPA 500 , 500W power amp. All Elecraft, all plug compatible.

In January in the middle of a QSO, the Elecraft transceiver stopped working. I 
got return authorization and returned the transceiver to Elecraft for service. 
They say that because of the number of units returned to them, it will be 
another 2 months before they can get around to mine. So I'm off the air for 3 
months..

So what to do? Give Elecraft $5000 for a new K4; Buy a Yaesu FT Dx 10 with a 
very good receiver but is not easily plugged into the Elecraft K line; Buy an 
Icom 7300 which I have familiarity with and will be easy to attach; Go on eBay 
and buy a used K3 and hope that it works; or buy something else?

When I get my K3 back, I either will keep what ever I buy now as a spare to use 
when the K3 fails again or sell off my entire K line and migrate away from 
Elecraft recognizing that their service is not like to improve and that I have 
alternatives.

Advice please. Thanks. W9ZD
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[Elecraft] Failed K3...

[Petr Ourednik]

Hi,

as you need just backup solution until your main K3 will be back from service I 
would recommend to find and purchase on QTH.com or QRZ.com some used K3 in 
great condition coolly with less options installed to be immediately QRV with 
rest of K-line. When your main K3 will be back you will have great backup as 
same as SO2R solution :)

73 - Petr, OK1RP
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Re: [Elecraft] Failed K3

[jackp05--- via Elecraft]

Sent from the all new AOL app for Android
On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 8:47 AM, rikoski wrote:Here is my 
situation. I have an Elecraft K3 setup: K3 transceiver; Pan Adpter; KAT 500 
tuner; KPA 500 , 500W power amp. All Elecraft, all plug compatible.
In January in the middle of a QSO, the Elecraft transceiver stopped working. I 
got return authorization and returned the transceiver to Elecraft for service. 
They say that because of the number of units returned to them, it will be 
another 2 months before they can get around to mine. So I'm off the air for 3 
months..
So what to do? Give Elecraft $5000 for a new K4; Buy a Yaesu FT Dx 10 with a 
very good receiver but is not easily plugged into the Elecraft K line; Buy an 
Icom 7300 which I have familiarity with and will be easy to attach; Go on eBay 
and buy a used K3 and hope that it works; or buy something else?
When I get my K3 back, I either will keep what ever I buy now as a spare to use 
when the K3 fails again or sell off my entire K line and migrate away from 
Elecraft recognizing that their service is not like to improve and that I have 
alternatives.
Advice please. Thanks. 
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[Elecraft] Failed K3

[rikoski]

Here is my situation. I have an Elecraft K3 setup: K3 transceiver; Pan Adpter; 
KAT 500 tuner; KPA 500 , 500W power amp. All Elecraft, all plug compatible.

In January in the middle of a QSO, the Elecraft transceiver stopped working. I 
got return authorization and returned the transceiver to Elecraft for service. 
They say that because of the number of units returned to them, it will be 
another 2 months before they can get around to mine. So I'm off the air for 3 
months..

So what to do? Give Elecraft $5000 for a new K4; Buy a Yaesu FT Dx 10 with a 
very good receiver but is not easily plugged into the Elecraft K line; Buy an 
Icom 7300 which I have familiarity with and will be easy to attach; Go on eBay 
and buy a used K3 and hope that it works; or buy something else?

When I get my K3 back, I either will keep what ever I buy now as a spare to use 
when the K3 fails again or sell off my entire K line and migrate away from 
Elecraft recognizing that their service is not like to improve and that I have 
alternatives.

Advice please. Thanks. W9ZD
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Re: [Elecraft] Failed K3 Firmware update DSP1

[Matthew Lawson]

Thanks Don, I talked with Howard at Elecraft today about the radio. He
thinks there might be a memory problem and the new firmware that is
address-ably larger is causing the problem. They would have to see the
radio to verify this. If this is the case then he would recommend updating
the DSP board to the new version. I am going to see if I can update to
Version 4.39 tonight and if successful stay there, or if not milk it along
until I can afford to send the radio into Elecraft. My radio is an older
one serial is 01341 so a new rig might be in order, but that is way down
the road.

Thanks again to everyone, this community for help has been a great
experience, with bricking my K3 aside. Thank you for the quick responses.

Now I really have my eyes set on a KX3 :) first things first, get this K3
figured out.

73!

*Matthew Lawson*
*KC7EQO*
*442.100 + 100 Hz PL Blyn Mt Repeater*


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On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 4:28 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:

> Matthew,
>
> You should not have to do incremental firmware updates.
> Keep the 2.19 firmware files "just in case", but delete the latest
> firmware files from the folder where you have the firmware stored on your
> computer in case the copies you have are corrupt.
>
> Open K3 Utility (make sure it is the latest), and then "Get files from
> Elecraft" to download the latest production firmware.
>
> Once you have those files on your computer, click the "Send all files to
> the K3" and it should update with no problem.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
>
> On 7/20/2016 12:08 AM, Matthew Lawson wrote:
>
>> Well, Howard was able to send me FW 2.19 and I had a successful flash to
>> the K3.
>>
>> Now I tried to jumped from version 2.19 to 5.38, is there a bug in jumping
>> this far? Is there a DSP hardware revision that may have an issue with
>> current version of firmware (older radio, 1st gen, etc...?)???
>>
>> Anyways my rig is back from being a brick, and is working again. YEAH!!!
>>
>> An observation on this, I accidentally tried to push just the DSP1
>> Firmware
>> from 2.19 with 5.38 MCU still installed but it would fail, saw my error
>> and
>> corrected it and had a successfully flash when the 2.19 MCU was installed
>> first. This made me wonder if this was part of the problem with the
>> update.
>> Is there some sort of version check with the DSP1 to MCU?
>>
>> I am wanting to try an incremental update from 2.19, but older firmware is
>> not published.
>>
>> Wanted to keep the list updated on whats been happening and thank you for
>> all your support in this.
>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Failed K3 Firmware update DSP1

[Don Wilhelm]

Matthew,

You should not have to do incremental firmware updates.
Keep the 2.19 firmware files "just in case", but delete the latest 
firmware files from the folder where you have the firmware stored on 
your computer in case the copies you have are corrupt.


Open K3 Utility (make sure it is the latest), and then "Get files from 
Elecraft" to download the latest production firmware.


Once you have those files on your computer, click the "Send all files to 
the K3" and it should update with no problem.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/20/2016 12:08 AM, Matthew Lawson wrote:

Well, Howard was able to send me FW 2.19 and I had a successful flash to
the K3.

Now I tried to jumped from version 2.19 to 5.38, is there a bug in jumping
this far? Is there a DSP hardware revision that may have an issue with
current version of firmware (older radio, 1st gen, etc...?)???

Anyways my rig is back from being a brick, and is working again. YEAH!!!

An observation on this, I accidentally tried to push just the DSP1 Firmware
from 2.19 with 5.38 MCU still installed but it would fail, saw my error and
corrected it and had a successfully flash when the 2.19 MCU was installed
first. This made me wonder if this was part of the problem with the update.
Is there some sort of version check with the DSP1 to MCU?

I am wanting to try an incremental update from 2.19, but older firmware is
not published.

Wanted to keep the list updated on whats been happening and thank you for
all your support in this.




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Re: [Elecraft] Failed K3 Firmware update DSP1

[Drew AF2Z]

I have approx 35 firmware zips from 2.10 through 5.01. This isn't the 
complete set; only the ones for which I was interested in upgrading some 
feature on my K3. You can have them if you want but as far as I know 
installing intermediate revisions is not required.


73,
Drew
AF2Z



On 07/20/16 00:08, Matthew Lawson wrote:

Well, Howard was able to send me FW 2.19 and I had a successful flash to
the K3.

Now I tried to jumped from version 2.19 to 5.38, is there a bug in jumping
this far? Is there a DSP hardware revision that may have an issue with
current version of firmware (older radio, 1st gen, etc...?)???

Anyways my rig is back from being a brick, and is working again. YEAH!!!

An observation on this, I accidentally tried to push just the DSP1 Firmware
from 2.19 with 5.38 MCU still installed but it would fail, saw my error and
corrected it and had a successfully flash when the 2.19 MCU was installed
first. This made me wonder if this was part of the problem with the update.
Is there some sort of version check with the DSP1 to MCU?

I am wanting to try an incremental update from 2.19, but older firmware is
not published.

Wanted to keep the list updated on whats been happening and thank you for
all your support in this.

73

*Matthew Lawson*
*KC7EQO*
*442.100 + 100 Hz PL Blyn Mt Repeater*





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Re: [Elecraft] Failed K3 Firmware update DSP1

[Matthew Lawson]

Well, Howard was able to send me FW 2.19 and I had a successful flash to
the K3.

Now I tried to jumped from version 2.19 to 5.38, is there a bug in jumping
this far? Is there a DSP hardware revision that may have an issue with
current version of firmware (older radio, 1st gen, etc...?)???

Anyways my rig is back from being a brick, and is working again. YEAH!!!

An observation on this, I accidentally tried to push just the DSP1 Firmware
from 2.19 with 5.38 MCU still installed but it would fail, saw my error and
corrected it and had a successfully flash when the 2.19 MCU was installed
first. This made me wonder if this was part of the problem with the update.
Is there some sort of version check with the DSP1 to MCU?

I am wanting to try an incremental update from 2.19, but older firmware is
not published.

Wanted to keep the list updated on whats been happening and thank you for
all your support in this.

73

*Matthew Lawson*
*KC7EQO*
*442.100 + 100 Hz PL Blyn Mt Repeater*


*http://www.qrz.com/db/KC7EQO/R *


On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 2:02 PM, Matthew Lawson  wrote:

> I did save the configuration. I thought this was separate from the
> firmware. I don't see where to back up just the firmware. It's ju a thought
> the dsp1 that fails.
>
> On Jul 19, 2016 1:43 PM, "Ken G Kopp"  wrote:
>
> Saving the radio's configuration is always a good idea, even if no "event"
> is expected. No telling when "something" may happen. (;-)
>
> 73!
>
> K0PP
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Failed K3 Firmware update DSP1

[Ken G Kopp]

Forgive me if I missed something 

Did you use the utility to save a backup of your radio -before- attempting
the update?

73

K0PP

On Jul 19, 2016 2:26 PM, "Matthew Lawson"  wrote:

> Well, I got a response from Elecraft, they had me clean the pins on the RF
> board. This did not work and now I have been asked to ship them my radio.
> :( So this looks like my attempt at getting up to date firmware and fixes
> have left me with a nonworking K3, that operated fine, and I have to ship
> Elecraft my radio and pay their hourly rate to bring the radio back to
> life. There should be some fail safe or self checking for committing to the
> update or at least a way to fall back on. For example Cisco does implement
> a process like this with in their switches and routers. I wanted to update
> the list on the progress and will let everyone know the outcome.
>
> 73
>
> *Matthew Lawson*
> *KC7EQO*
> *442.100 + 100 Hz PL Blyn Mt Repeater*
>
>
> *http://www.qrz.com/db/KC7EQO/R *
> 
>
> On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 9:37 PM, Matthew Lawson  wrote:
>
> > LOL oh yes I plan on posting the solution when one arrives. :)
> >
> > *Matthew Lawson*
> > *KC7EQO*
> > *442.100 + 100 Hz PL Blyn Mt Repeater*
> >
> >
> > *http://www.qrz.com/db/KC7EQO/R *
> > 
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 9:13 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> You will tell me what finally fixes it, won't you...
> >>
> >> Good it's you instead of me. I would have been throwing things by now...
> >>
> >>
> >> 73, g.
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 12:08 AM, Matthew Lawson 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Thanks Guy, no luck on the forcing firmware. Not sure what else there
> is
> >>> to tell. I will be calling Elecraft tomorrow. I have also copied
> support
> >>> with this email. Thanks for your assistance.
> >>>
> >>> 73!
> >>>
> >>> *Matthew Lawson*
> >>> *KC7EQO*
> >>> *442.100 + 100 Hz PL Blyn Mt Repeater*
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> *http://www.qrz.com/db/KC7EQO/R *
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 8:06 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
>  Call Elecraft Tech support in the morning.  One of them will recognize
>  this. In the meantime try the procedure for a hung firmware load
> where you
>  force the K3 into an MCU load.
> 
>  Start the elecraft utility. Click on help. In the contents tab go down
>  to "troubleshooting" and click on the + sign expander. Click on
> 
> - Forcing the K3 into "Firmware Load Required" Mode
> 
>  Follow the procedure to the letter.
> 
>  Something weird going on.
> 
>  I have this feeling that you haven't told me something that's
>  important, but I don't know what it might be, and you don't know it's
>  important, so I don't know what to ask and you don't know what to
> tell. :>(
> 
>  Sorry I haven't had the answer, but fixing the stuff over the weekend
>  when Elecraft is closed is always a bear.
> 
>  Good Luck, Guy
> 
> 
>  On Sunday, July 17, 2016, Matthew Lawson  wrote:
> 
> > No joy Guy, I have even tried a different PC running windows 7. same
> > thing, fails on the DSP1 upload to the radio. Does anyone know where
> I can
> > find a older copy of firmware? Would like to just get my radio back
> > running.  Thanks for the help.
> >
> > 73
> >
> > *Matthew Lawson*
> > *KC7EQO*
> > *442.100 + 100 Hz PL Blyn Mt Repeater*
> >
> >
> > *http://www.qrz.com/db/KC7EQO/R *
> > 
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 4:19 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV <
> k2av@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hoping one of those will kick something loose.  g.
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 4:35 PM, Matthew Lawson 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Thanks Guy. I will give it a go and report back.
> >>>
> >>> *Matthew Lawson*
> >>> *KC7EQO*
> >>> *442.100 + 100 Hz PL Blyn Mt Repeater*
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> *http://www.qrz.com/db/KC7EQO/R *
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 1:06 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV <
> >>> k2av@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
>  The error message still sounds like version mismatch.
> 
>  Go into your device manager and make sure there is only one device
>  assigned to the com port used to talk to your K3 to make sure you
> do not
>  have any dual use on the serial line.
> 
>  Turn off any tricky stuff with com port sharing in it. The binary
>  content 

Re: [Elecraft] Failed K3 Firmware update DSP1

[Matthew Lawson]

Well, I got a response from Elecraft, they had me clean the pins on the RF
board. This did not work and now I have been asked to ship them my radio.
:( So this looks like my attempt at getting up to date firmware and fixes
have left me with a nonworking K3, that operated fine, and I have to ship
Elecraft my radio and pay their hourly rate to bring the radio back to
life. There should be some fail safe or self checking for committing to the
update or at least a way to fall back on. For example Cisco does implement
a process like this with in their switches and routers. I wanted to update
the list on the progress and will let everyone know the outcome.

73

*Matthew Lawson*
*KC7EQO*
*442.100 + 100 Hz PL Blyn Mt Repeater*


*http://www.qrz.com/db/KC7EQO/R *


On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 9:37 PM, Matthew Lawson  wrote:

> LOL oh yes I plan on posting the solution when one arrives. :)
>
> *Matthew Lawson*
> *KC7EQO*
> *442.100 + 100 Hz PL Blyn Mt Repeater*
>
>
> *http://www.qrz.com/db/KC7EQO/R *
> 
>
> On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 9:13 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV 
> wrote:
>
>> You will tell me what finally fixes it, won't you...
>>
>> Good it's you instead of me. I would have been throwing things by now...
>>
>>
>> 73, g.
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 12:08 AM, Matthew Lawson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Guy, no luck on the forcing firmware. Not sure what else there is
>>> to tell. I will be calling Elecraft tomorrow. I have also copied support
>>> with this email. Thanks for your assistance.
>>>
>>> 73!
>>>
>>> *Matthew Lawson*
>>> *KC7EQO*
>>> *442.100 + 100 Hz PL Blyn Mt Repeater*
>>>
>>>
>>> *http://www.qrz.com/db/KC7EQO/R *
>>> 
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 8:06 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Call Elecraft Tech support in the morning.  One of them will recognize
 this. In the meantime try the procedure for a hung firmware load where you
 force the K3 into an MCU load.

 Start the elecraft utility. Click on help. In the contents tab go down
 to "troubleshooting" and click on the + sign expander. Click on

- Forcing the K3 into "Firmware Load Required" Mode

 Follow the procedure to the letter.

 Something weird going on.

 I have this feeling that you haven't told me something that's
 important, but I don't know what it might be, and you don't know it's
 important, so I don't know what to ask and you don't know what to tell. :>(

 Sorry I haven't had the answer, but fixing the stuff over the weekend
 when Elecraft is closed is always a bear.

 Good Luck, Guy


 On Sunday, July 17, 2016, Matthew Lawson  wrote:

> No joy Guy, I have even tried a different PC running windows 7. same
> thing, fails on the DSP1 upload to the radio. Does anyone know where I can
> find a older copy of firmware? Would like to just get my radio back
> running.  Thanks for the help.
>
> 73
>
> *Matthew Lawson*
> *KC7EQO*
> *442.100 + 100 Hz PL Blyn Mt Repeater*
>
>
> *http://www.qrz.com/db/KC7EQO/R *
> 
>
> On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 4:19 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV 
> wrote:
>
>> Hoping one of those will kick something loose.  g.
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 4:35 PM, Matthew Lawson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Guy. I will give it a go and report back.
>>>
>>> *Matthew Lawson*
>>> *KC7EQO*
>>> *442.100 + 100 Hz PL Blyn Mt Repeater*
>>>
>>>
>>> *http://www.qrz.com/db/KC7EQO/R *
>>> 
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 1:06 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV <
>>> k2av@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 The error message still sounds like version mismatch.

 Go into your device manager and make sure there is only one device
 assigned to the com port used to talk to your K3 to make sure you do 
 not
 have any dual use on the serial line.

 Turn off any tricky stuff with com port sharing in it. The binary
 content of K3 firmware can easily contain an escape sequence use by com
 port sharing software.

 Try creating a brand-new down load directory. Flush your browser
 cache, to make sure it's not short-cutting a failed download. Then 
 download
 ALL the K3 firmware into the new directory, including the K3 utility. 
 Run
 the utility from the new directory and change the directory in the K3
 utility for 

Re: [Elecraft] Failed K3 Firmware update DSP1

[Matthew Lawson]

I have the current one only (1.16.6.25). I don't have any older files. just
what I have been able to download lately.

*Matthew Lawson*
*KC7EQO*
*442.100 + 100 Hz PL Blyn Mt Repeater*


*http://www.qrz.com/db/KC7EQO/R *


On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Nr4c  wrote:

> Do you have the last utility?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
>
>
> > On Jul 17, 2016, at 3:58 AM, Matthew Lawson  wrote:
> >
> > Please help, went to update my K3 to the latest Firmware (was running
> 2.19)
> > all updated fine until DSP1.
> >
> > 00:33:01 Loaded DSP1 firmware revision 02.86
> > K3 responded with revision ??.??
> > 00:33:01 DSP1 verification failed. Reload DSP1.
> > 00:33:01 Error code 0xE246: Revision number verification failed
> > 00:33:01 DSP1 verification failed. Reload DSP1.
> > 00:33:01 Click "Close" to close this window
> >
> > More detailed verbose:
> >
> > LoadDspDataTableState Response "A"   0 ms
> > ResetMcuState Send "LDD2;"
> > Waiting 6 seconds for reset to complete
> > ResetMcuState Response "A"  15 ms
> > ResetMcuState Timer Elapsed 5500 ms
> > DetermineSpeedState Send ";"
> > DetermineSpeedState Response ";"  15 ms
> > QueryMainDspRevisionState Send "RVD;"
> > QueryMainDspRevisionState Response "RVD00.00;"  16 ms
> > Loaded DSP1 firmware revision 02.86
> > K3 responded with revision ??.??
> > DSP1 verification failed. Reload DSP1.
> > Error code 0xE246: Revision number verification failed
> > DSP1 verification failed. Reload DSP1.
> > Click "Close" to close this window
> >
> > Computer I am using has hardware RS232 ports, two of them, and I have
> tried
> > either one with the same results. I am using the latest K3 Utility
> > 1.16.6.25.
> > My K3's serial number is 01341.
> > Everything seems to load fine but fails the DSP1.
> >
> > I have tried reloading and re-downloading, rebooting, both computer and
> K3.
> >
> > I also looked into downgrading to an older firmware, but I can not find
> an
> > older archive that goes back far enough to my working configuration,
> 2.19.
> >
> > I did try what was archived and got the same results. (ftp directory)
> >
> > Please help. I also searched the forums with no avail. most were USB
> > adapter problems.
> >
> > 73
> >
> >
> > This has rendered my K3 useless.
> >
> > *Matthew Lawson*
> > *KC7EQO*
> > *442.100 + 100 Hz PL Blyn Mt Repeater*
> >
> >
> > *http://www.qrz.com/db/KC7EQO/R *
> > 
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Re: [Elecraft] Failed K3 Firmware update DSP1

[Nr4c]

Do you have the last utility?

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Jul 17, 2016, at 3:58 AM, Matthew Lawson  wrote:
> 
> Please help, went to update my K3 to the latest Firmware (was running 2.19)
> all updated fine until DSP1.
> 
> 00:33:01 Loaded DSP1 firmware revision 02.86
> K3 responded with revision ??.??
> 00:33:01 DSP1 verification failed. Reload DSP1.
> 00:33:01 Error code 0xE246: Revision number verification failed
> 00:33:01 DSP1 verification failed. Reload DSP1.
> 00:33:01 Click "Close" to close this window
> 
> More detailed verbose:
> 
> LoadDspDataTableState Response "A"   0 ms
> ResetMcuState Send "LDD2;"
> Waiting 6 seconds for reset to complete
> ResetMcuState Response "A"  15 ms
> ResetMcuState Timer Elapsed 5500 ms
> DetermineSpeedState Send ";"
> DetermineSpeedState Response ";"  15 ms
> QueryMainDspRevisionState Send "RVD;"
> QueryMainDspRevisionState Response "RVD00.00;"  16 ms
> Loaded DSP1 firmware revision 02.86
> K3 responded with revision ??.??
> DSP1 verification failed. Reload DSP1.
> Error code 0xE246: Revision number verification failed
> DSP1 verification failed. Reload DSP1.
> Click "Close" to close this window
> 
> Computer I am using has hardware RS232 ports, two of them, and I have tried
> either one with the same results. I am using the latest K3 Utility
> 1.16.6.25.
> My K3's serial number is 01341.
> Everything seems to load fine but fails the DSP1.
> 
> I have tried reloading and re-downloading, rebooting, both computer and K3.
> 
> I also looked into downgrading to an older firmware, but I can not find an
> older archive that goes back far enough to my working configuration, 2.19.
> 
> I did try what was archived and got the same results. (ftp directory)
> 
> Please help. I also searched the forums with no avail. most were USB
> adapter problems.
> 
> 73
> 
> 
> This has rendered my K3 useless.
> 
> *Matthew Lawson*
> *KC7EQO*
> *442.100 + 100 Hz PL Blyn Mt Repeater*
> 
> 
> *http://www.qrz.com/db/KC7EQO/R *
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[Elecraft] Failed K3 Firmware update DSP1

[Matthew Lawson]

Please help, went to update my K3 to the latest Firmware (was running 2.19)
all updated fine until DSP1.

00:33:01 Loaded DSP1 firmware revision 02.86
K3 responded with revision ??.??
00:33:01 DSP1 verification failed. Reload DSP1.
00:33:01 Error code 0xE246: Revision number verification failed
00:33:01 DSP1 verification failed. Reload DSP1.
00:33:01 Click "Close" to close this window

More detailed verbose:

LoadDspDataTableState Response "A"   0 ms
ResetMcuState Send "LDD2;"
Waiting 6 seconds for reset to complete
ResetMcuState Response "A"  15 ms
ResetMcuState Timer Elapsed 5500 ms
DetermineSpeedState Send ";"
DetermineSpeedState Response ";"  15 ms
QueryMainDspRevisionState Send "RVD;"
QueryMainDspRevisionState Response "RVD00.00;"  16 ms
Loaded DSP1 firmware revision 02.86
K3 responded with revision ??.??
DSP1 verification failed. Reload DSP1.
Error code 0xE246: Revision number verification failed
DSP1 verification failed. Reload DSP1.
Click "Close" to close this window

Computer I am using has hardware RS232 ports, two of them, and I have tried
either one with the same results. I am using the latest K3 Utility
1.16.6.25.
My K3's serial number is 01341.
Everything seems to load fine but fails the DSP1.

I have tried reloading and re-downloading, rebooting, both computer and K3.

I also looked into downgrading to an older firmware, but I can not find an
older archive that goes back far enough to my working configuration, 2.19.

I did try what was archived and got the same results. (ftp directory)

Please help. I also searched the forums with no avail. most were USB
adapter problems.

73


This has rendered my K3 useless.

*Matthew Lawson*
*KC7EQO*
*442.100 + 100 Hz PL Blyn Mt Repeater*


*http://www.qrz.com/db/KC7EQO/R *

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