Re: [Elecraft] new KX-2 question
I simply answered the question asked here by Bob, K3SRO, "Does anyone know if the smaller VFO knob "B" on the K3/K3S will fit the encoder shaft on the new KX-2?" Some of the resulting comments made by others were rather amusing. Ever since the K2 was Elecraft's main product (ca. 2000), knobs have been a constant source of discussion debate and deliberation as to weight, size, texture, and shape, beginning with, IIRC, adding the heavy rubber band found on produce like broccoli to the K2 knob. So I wasn't really surprised by the question. 73, Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Kevin Stover Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 4:48 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] new KX-2 question The solder is barely dry on the rig and people want to change the freaking knobWithout ever having used it. Just amazing. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] new KX-2 question
The solder is barely dry on the rig and people want to change the freaking knobWithout ever having used it. Just amazing. On 5/23/2016 10:00 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: Matt: What I was referring to is that with a flat the KX2 shaft is no longer round, so the set screws can pull the knob off center unless they are carefully positioned so they pull the knob against the round segment of the shaft. The shaft of the KX2 encoder is slightly smaller than the KX3 encoder - about 10 mils - so that can contribute a small amount eccentricity as well. 73, Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Matt Maguire Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 4:52 PM To: Wes; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] new KX-2 question Draw a circle on a piece of paper radius R, and mark it's centre. now draw a smaller circle inside radius r, which touches the bigger circle at one point, and mark it's centre. You'll see the distance between the centre points is (R - r). imagine the big circle is the hole in the VFO knob, and the little circle is the VFO shaft. The flat part of the VFO shaft is irrelevant, as the screw is adjusted to meet it wherever it sits. I hope this help explain how the knob will not be centred. 73, Matt VK2RQ Get Outlook for iOS On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 2:03 PM -0700, "Wes" wrote: Leave one screw loose, drive the other one into the flat. How could it not be centered? On 5/23/2016 12:31 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: It will fit, although the KX2 knob is a press-on type with a flat on the encoder shaft while the K3 VFO B knob uses two set-screws on a round shaft. Thanks to the flat, the K3 VFO B knob doesn't center perfectly. 73, Ron AC7AC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to matt.vk...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to r...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to kevin.sto...@mediacombb.net -- R. Kevin Stover AC0H ARRL FISTS #11993 SKCC #215 NAQCC #3441 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] new KX-2 question
Does that make me right too? On 5/23/2016 8:47 PM, Matt Maguire wrote: Hi Ron, Of course, you're right, you want the set screw against the flat part of the shaft, otherwise the knob could be pulled even more off-centre. Thanks for clarifying. 73, Matt VK2RQ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] new KX-2 question
Hi Ron, Of course, you're right, you want the set screw against the flat part of the shaft, otherwise the knob could be pulled even more off-centre. Thanks for clarifying. 73, Matt VK2RQ On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 8:00 PM -0700, "Ron D'Eau Claire" wrote: Matt: What I was referring to is that with a flat the KX2 shaft is no longer round, so the set screws can pull the knob off center unless they are carefully positioned so they pull the knob against the round segment of the shaft. The shaft of the KX2 encoder is slightly smaller than the KX3 encoder - about 10 mils - so that can contribute a small amount eccentricity as well. 73, Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Matt Maguire Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 4:52 PM To: Wes; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] new KX-2 question Draw a circle on a piece of paper radius R, and mark it's centre. now draw a smaller circle inside radius r, which touches the bigger circle at one point, and mark it's centre. You'll see the distance between the centre points is (R - r). imagine the big circle is the hole in the VFO knob, and the little circle is the VFO shaft. The flat part of the VFO shaft is irrelevant, as the screw is adjusted to meet it wherever it sits. I hope this help explain how the knob will not be centred. 73, Matt VK2RQ Get Outlook for iOS On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 2:03 PM -0700, "Wes" wrote: Leave one screw loose, drive the other one into the flat. How could it not be centered? On 5/23/2016 12:31 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: > It will fit, although the KX2 knob is a press-on type with a flat on the encoder shaft while the K3 VFO B knob uses two set-screws on a round shaft. > > Thanks to the flat, the K3 VFO B knob doesn't center perfectly. > > 73, Ron AC7AC > > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to matt.vk...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to r...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] new KX-2 question
Matt: What I was referring to is that with a flat the KX2 shaft is no longer round, so the set screws can pull the knob off center unless they are carefully positioned so they pull the knob against the round segment of the shaft. The shaft of the KX2 encoder is slightly smaller than the KX3 encoder - about 10 mils - so that can contribute a small amount eccentricity as well. 73, Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Matt Maguire Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 4:52 PM To: Wes; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] new KX-2 question Draw a circle on a piece of paper radius R, and mark it's centre. now draw a smaller circle inside radius r, which touches the bigger circle at one point, and mark it's centre. You'll see the distance between the centre points is (R - r). imagine the big circle is the hole in the VFO knob, and the little circle is the VFO shaft. The flat part of the VFO shaft is irrelevant, as the screw is adjusted to meet it wherever it sits. I hope this help explain how the knob will not be centred. 73, Matt VK2RQ Get Outlook for iOS On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 2:03 PM -0700, "Wes" wrote: Leave one screw loose, drive the other one into the flat. How could it not be centered? On 5/23/2016 12:31 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: > It will fit, although the KX2 knob is a press-on type with a flat on the encoder shaft while the K3 VFO B knob uses two set-screws on a round shaft. > > Thanks to the flat, the K3 VFO B knob doesn't center perfectly. > > 73, Ron AC7AC > > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to matt.vk...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to r...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] new KX-2 question
Draw a circle on a piece of paper radius R, and mark it's centre. now draw a smaller circle inside radius r, which touches the bigger circle at one point, and mark it's centre. You'll see the distance between the centre points is (R - r). imagine the big circle is the hole in the VFO knob, and the little circle is the VFO shaft. The flat part of the VFO shaft is irrelevant, as the screw is adjusted to meet it wherever it sits. I hope this help explain how the knob will not be centred. 73, Matt VK2RQ Get Outlook for iOS On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 2:03 PM -0700, "Wes" wrote: Leave one screw loose, drive the other one into the flat. How could it not be centered? On 5/23/2016 12:31 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: > It will fit, although the KX2 knob is a press-on type with a flat on the > encoder shaft while the K3 VFO B knob uses two set-screws on a round shaft. > > Thanks to the flat, the K3 VFO B knob doesn't center perfectly. > > 73, Ron AC7AC > > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to matt.vk...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] new KX-2 question
Leave one screw loose, drive the other one into the flat. How could it not be centered? On 5/23/2016 12:31 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: It will fit, although the KX2 knob is a press-on type with a flat on the encoder shaft while the K3 VFO B knob uses two set-screws on a round shaft. Thanks to the flat, the K3 VFO B knob doesn't center perfectly. 73, Ron AC7AC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] new KX-2 question
With a proper lengths set screws (one over, one under) and some patience, the flat should preclude a centered setup... as long as the shaft diameter is the same or pretty close to the VFO B encoder shaft diameter. __ Clay Autery, KY5G MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 On 5/23/2016 2:31 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: > It will fit, although the KX2 knob is a press-on type with a flat on the > encoder shaft while the K3 VFO B knob uses two set-screws on a round shaft. > > Thanks to the flat, the K3 VFO B knob doesn't center perfectly. > > 73, Ron AC7AC > > > > -Original Message- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of > dlrwi...@verizon.net > Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 12:11 PM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] new KX-2 question > > Does anyone know if the samller N8BX VFO knob “B” on the K3/K3S will fit the > encoder shaft on the new KX-2? > > Is the VFO knob on the KX-2 weighted like the KX-3 and K3/K3S? > > Very interested in hearing user reviews on the KX-2 from QST or Sherwood > Engineering. > > Contact Bob, K3SRO at dlrwi...@verizon.net > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message > delivered to r...@elecraft.com > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to caut...@montac.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] new KX-2 question
It will fit, although the KX2 knob is a press-on type with a flat on the encoder shaft while the K3 VFO B knob uses two set-screws on a round shaft. Thanks to the flat, the K3 VFO B knob doesn't center perfectly. 73, Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of dlrwi...@verizon.net Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 12:11 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] new KX-2 question Does anyone know if the samller N8BX VFO knob “B” on the K3/K3S will fit the encoder shaft on the new KX-2? Is the VFO knob on the KX-2 weighted like the KX-3 and K3/K3S? Very interested in hearing user reviews on the KX-2 from QST or Sherwood Engineering. Contact Bob, K3SRO at dlrwi...@verizon.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to r...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] new KX-2 question
Does anyone know if the samller N8BX VFO knob “B” on the K3/K3S will fit the encoder shaft on the new KX-2? Is the VFO knob on the KX-2 weighted like the KX-3 and K3/K3S? Very interested in hearing user reviews on the KX-2 from QST or Sherwood Engineering. Contact Bob, K3SRO at dlrwi...@verizon.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
