Re: [Orgmode] suggestion : collapsed levels
Bastien [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Richard G Riley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is it/could it be, possible to have collapsed marking ... always to the right of the left hand title column in an org file? Do you mean hiding the tags when collapsing the subtree? No. I mean having the collapsed marker to the right of the heading, not to the right of the visible tags. It stops you having to scan all the way to the right. I small usability tweak I think. e.g *title:tag: ** subheading When I collapse I get *title:tag: I think it would be easier to scan the title column (which you are more likely to do than scanning process orientated tags) if the decoration was like this: *title...:tag: But if you hide tags when folding, how do you distinguish headlines with tags from headlines without tags? For me having tags around is okay. Especially because I use a nearly invisible font for them. And for me. And if I were to hide them I'd better hide them in a :TAGS: property. But it is good to keep the special properties (todo, tags, scheduled, etc.) at special place. No, I am not asking for tags to be removed from view. But, on that subject is it possible to see inherited tags (maybe in a different face?)?. They would, I assume, be read only in the places they are inherited. I see an ALLTAGS property, but its not immediately clear to me from the documentation how to use it or even if it is what I want. Something like this at the top of a file? :PROPERTIES: :ALLTAGS: True :END: or, better and more concistent #+ALLTAGS But maybe I misinterpret the meaning of this special property? Possibly I need to provide my own column view? Or can I modify the existing one by including ALLTAGS? ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] org-agenda-log-mode change
Fixed, thanks. - Carsten On Oct 15, 2007, at 17:13, Bernt Hansen wrote: Hi Carsten, I just noticed today that org-agenda-log-mode isn't sorting the same was as it used to. Displayed clocked items used to be in ascending time order but now they seem to be all mixed up (or sorted by category first) and they have no time display in the agenda anymore. Without org-clock-goto this would have been much more of a problem for me. Was this change intentional or an oversight? I'm using Org-mode version 5.12c (as of a few minutes ago but it's the same in 5.12a.) Here is my agenda from today (with the task names and categories renamed) to show the difference in the display I'm seeing. ,[ 5.11b.txt ] | Day-agenda: | Monday15 October 2007 | :7:41.. Closed: DONE Some Task 1 | Org: 7:41.. Clocked:TODO Some Task 2 | nn: 7:43.. Clocked:TODO Some Task 3 | s: 7:46.. Clocked:TODO Some Task 4 | Misc:8:18.. Clocked:TODO Some Task 5 | s: 8:21.. Clocked:NEXT Some Task 6 | :8:25.. Clocked:ONGOING Some Task 7 | HHH:10:38.. Closed: DONE Some Task 8 | HHH:10:38.. Closed: DONE Some Task 9 | HHH:10:43.. Clocked:NEXT Some Task 10 | CCC*: Sched. 5x: TODO Some Task 11 | HHH:Sched. 5x: TODO Some Task 12 | HHH:Sched. 5x: NEXT Some Task 13 |8:00.. | 10:00.. | 12:00.. | 14:00.. | 16:00.. | 18:00.. | 20:00.. ` ,[ 5.12c ] | Day-agenda: | Monday15 October 2007 | : Clocked:ONGOING Some Task 7 | : Closed: DONE Some Task 1 | HHH:Clocked:NEXT Some Task 10 | HHH:Closed: DONE Some Task 8 | HHH:Closed: DONE Some Task 9 | Misc: Clocked:TODO Some Task 5 | Org:Clocked:TODO Some Task 2 | nn: Clocked:TODO Some Task 3 | s: Clocked:NEXT Some Task 6 | s: Clocked:TODO Some Task 4 | CCC*: Sched. 5x: TODO Some Task 11 | HHH:Sched. 5x: TODO Some Task 12 | HHH:Sched. 5x: NEXT Some Task 13 ` Regards, Bernt ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode -- Carsten Dominik Sterrenkundig Instituut Anton Pannekoek Universiteit van Amsterdam Kruislaan 403 NL-1098SJ Amsterdam phone: +31 20 525 7477 ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Definition of unscheduled task
On Oct 15, 2007, at 21:08, Wanrong Lin wrote: Sounds like my argument did not convince you. :-) No, you misunderstand. I do see why you might want to mark appointments TODO (even if I would not do it). But scheduled in the context of Org has to do with *planning*. You *plan* to work on this item that day, but it is not ab absolute fix like a dentist appointment. So I think it is wrong to turn these off with a variable that contains the word scheduled in the name. - Carsten But a new variable works for me. I really appreciate the extra effort you take. Wanrong Carsten Dominik wrote: Well, I am not about the change the meaning of scheduled, but I can give you a new variable `org-agenda-todo-ignore-with-date'. How about that? - Carsten On Oct 14, 2007, at 17:45, Wanrong Lin wrote: That's certainly an option. But usually I like to mark any actionable items with TODO, while using non-TODO entries to record information, or to group TODOs into logical groups. Like this: * Dental *** TODO See Dr. Xyz for cleaning 2007-11-29 Thu 09:00 * Medical *** TODO See Dr. Abc for routine exam * Useful Websites Conceptually, I think it is cleaner that way (if the entry indicates some action, have a TODO keyword. How that action is scheduled is a separate issue.). Physiologically, If I know in my org system certain entries need action but don't have a TODO keyword, my trust of the system will decrease since there are many functions in org-mode that operates on TODO entries only (or better so). Also, with a TODO keyword, I can change the state of it (I can cancel it, I can mark it done and etc.). Further, sometimes you just want to create a TODO entry like See Dr. Abc, and later make it an appointment by adding a time stamp. It seems awkward to me that I need to remove the TODO keyword once I have that item scheduled as an appointment. In short, I think we should mark appointments as TODO entries and have appointments removed from the TODO item list if ignore-scheduled is turned on. Wanrong Carsten Dominik wrote: On Oct 14, 2007, at 5:35, Wanrong Lin wrote: Hi, I am trying to follow GTD's principle that tasks should be reviewed regularly. So I first turn on org-agenda-todo-ignore-scheduled, and do a List of all TODO entries, and then review all tasks in the list. However, I found that tasks with plain active time stamps (appointment tasks) are also listed. Should we exclude them when org-agenda-todo-ignore-scheduled is set to t? Wouldn't it be better to not mark appointments TODO? - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode -- Carsten Dominik Sterrenkundig Instituut Anton Pannekoek Universiteit van Amsterdam Kruislaan 403 NL-1098SJ Amsterdam phone: +31 20 525 7477 -- Carsten Dominik Sterrenkundig Instituut Anton Pannekoek Universiteit van Amsterdam Kruislaan 403 NL-1098SJ Amsterdam phone: +31 20 525 7477 ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Agenda view resizes frames
On Oct 15, 2007, at 20:19, Bernt Hansen wrote: Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Oct 15, 2007, at 13:20, Dan Griswold wrote: Then, in a V-8 moment (doh!) I thought to check the Changelog, wherein I found this note: (org-fit-agenda-window): Limitations on window size removed. So, this was an intentional change. It must have been for an important reason. Well, it was upon the request of a single person. If it does not work for others, we can reverse it, or make it configurable. I think the current window size is less convenient to work with than the original version. Especially if you switch windows: C-a a a for me currently shows only 5 lines in the agenda then if I hit return on an item I get this tiny window to work in for my org-mode file. So I prefer the older version to this behaviour :) OK, I am reversing the change. John, there will be a variable `org-agenda-window-frame-fractions' to configure this. -Carsten -- Carsten Dominik Sterrenkundig Instituut Anton Pannekoek Universiteit van Amsterdam Kruislaan 403 NL-1098SJ Amsterdam phone: +31 20 525 7477 ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] http://orgmode.org/org.html - org-agenda-to-appt
Richard G Riley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I cleaned out and reinstalled - I have a feeling an old root .elc
might have hidden the function, but now I get
,
| org-date-to-gregorian: Symbol's function definition is void:
calendar-gregorian-from-absolute
`
When I run org-agenda-to-appt interactively.
Try this one (will be fixed in 5.13):
;; Make appt aware of appointments from the agenda
(defun org-agenda-to-appt (optional filter)
Activate appointments found in `org-agenda-files'.
When prefixed, prompt for a regular expression and use it as a
filter: only add entries if they match this regular expression.
FILTER can be a string. In this case, use this string as a
regular expression to filter results.
FILTER can also be an alist, with the car of each cell being
either 'headline or 'category. For example:
'((headline \IMPORTANT\)
(category \Work\))
will only add headlines containing IMPORTANT or headlines
belonging to the category \Work\.
(interactive P)
(require 'org)
(require 'calendar)
(if (equal filter '(4))
(setq filter (read-from-minibuffer Regexp filter: )))
(let* ((cnt 0) ; count added events
(today (org-date-to-gregorian
(time-to-days (current-time
(files org-agenda-files) entries file)
;; Get all entries which may contain an appt
(while (setq file (pop files))
(setq entries
(append entries
(org-agenda-get-day-entries
file today
:timestamp :scheduled :deadline
(setq entries (delq nil entries))
;; Map thru entries and find if they pass thru the filter
(mapc
(lambda(x)
(let* ((evt (org-trim (get-text-property 1 'txt x)))
(cat (get-text-property 1 'org-category x))
(tod (get-text-property 1 'time-of-day x))
(ok (or (null filter)
(and (stringp filter) (string-match filter evt))
(and (listp filter)
(or (string-match
(cadr (assoc 'category filter)) cat)
(string-match
(cadr (assoc 'headline filter)) evt))
;; FIXME Shall we remove text-properties for the appt text?
;; (setq evt (set-text-properties 0 (length evt) nil evt))
(when (and ok tod)
(setq tod (number-to-string tod)
tod (when (string-match
\\([0-9]\\{1,2\\}\\)\\([0-9]\\{2\\}\\) tod)
(concat (match-string 1 tod) :
(match-string 2 tod
(appt-add tod evt)
(setq cnt (1+ cnt) entries)
(message Added %d event%s for today cnt (if ( cnt 1) s
--
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[Orgmode] POLL: Volume of emacs-orgmode too high?
Hi, the mailing list has been extremely active recently, we have had close to 20 email a day. I am worried that this will scare away some members. Do we need to address this, or will people stick around and just wait until things cool off a bit? - Carsten P.S. I know that this will lead to even more messages in the next few days, but it is for a good cause :-) ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Emacs-orgmode Digest, Vol 20, Issue 51
From: Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Orgmode] POLL: Volume of emacs-orgmode too high? To: org-mode list emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Hi, the mailing list has been extremely active recently, we have had close to 20 email a day. I am worried that this will scare away some members. Do we need to address this, or will people stick around and just wait until things cool off a bit? Personnaly, I don't mind. I've set digest mode, so the numerous posts are bundled, and hitting the delete key of my mailer is easy if I'm not interested after having read `Today's Topics'. -- Frnçs ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: POLL: Volume of emacs-orgmode too high?
Carsten Dominik wrote: Hi, the mailing list has been extremely active recently, we have had close to 20 email a day. I am worried that this will scare away some members. Do we need to address this, or will people stick around and just wait until things cool off a bit? I think it is fine. The issues raised on the mailing list are very much to the point and actually relevant to org-mode. The only discussions I skip are the ones where there's a long discussion of some at the moment ephemeral feature (like task dependencies/triggers). -- Naked ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: POLL: Volume of emacs-orgmode too high?
On 2007-10-16 10:00 +0100, Carsten Dominik wrote: Hi, the mailing list has been extremely active recently, we have had close to 20 email a day. I am worried that this will scare away some members. Do we need to address this, or will people stick around and just wait until things cool off a bit? - Carsten P.S. I know that this will lead to even more messages in the next few days, but it is for a good cause :-) This is actually great news. The community of org mode is almost as active as emacs-devel ;) -- .: Leo :. [ sdl.web AT gmail.com ] .: [ GPG Key: 9283AA3F ] :. Use the most powerful email client -- http://gnus.org/ ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Interrupting note taking
Hello, Sometimes I bring up remember and then decide not to use it. If I'm already writing a note, C-c C-k works just fine (thanks for that feature!). But often I decide not to write a note while picking a template - so I just press C-g. This leaves the remember buffer visible afterwards. Could C-g be catched and the remember buffer thrown away if pressed at the template selection stage? -- Naked ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Create new heading after this one command
Nuutti Kotivuori wrote: Carsten Dominik wrote: I guess this would be as easy as (defun org-new-heading-after-current () Insert a new heading with same level as current, after current subtree. (interactive) (org-back-to-heading) (org-insert-heading) (org-move-subtree-down) (end-of-line 1)) Works like a dream, thanks! Any suggestions for a keybinding? Well, it has to be a single keypress, like M-RET - but I'm afraid I don't know org-mode well enough to give a good suggestion. I've been using this since I got the snippet. My keybinding for it is simply C-M-RET, which seems to work well enough. I couldn't really live without this anymore - the only use for M-RET I have (outside of text lists) is for a specific case which I will mention in another posting. -- Naked ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] POLL: Volume of emacs-orgmode too high?
Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am worried that this will scare away some members. Do we need to address this, or will people stick around and just wait until things cool off a bit? Emacs Gnus, using adaptive scoring, causes the org-mode list to be at most 5-10 postings a day for me. That's well within my tolerance. John ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: POLL: Volume of emacs-orgmode too high?
Carsten Dominik schrieb: Hi, the mailing list has been extremely active recently, we have had close to 20 email a day. I am worried that this will scare away some members. Do we need to address this, or will people stick around and just wait until things cool off a bit? - Carsten P.S. I know that this will lead to even more messages in the next few days, but it is for a good cause :-) ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode Hi, I like the mailing list being so active. The whole org-stuff is plain fun at work and at home. I've never been organized as easy as today - which doesn't mean I do not have some important needs left... rainer ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] suggestion : collapsed levels
Richard G Riley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: *title:tag: I think this is not a good idea. It would breack the logical meaning of ... and the way it's used outside of Org. But, on that subject is it possible to see inherited tags (maybe in a different face?)?. Use the column view: , | * Links:Read: | :PROPERTIES: | :COLUMNS: %30ITEM %10TAGS %20ALLTAGS | :END: | | ** Types of links :Write: ` Try to C-c C-x C-c on the second headline. It will display the headlines as a row consisting in the headline's title, the list of tags, and the list of inherited tags. The ALLTAGS field is read-only: while trying to edit it with `e' Org bites: The ALLTAGS property can not yet be set with `org-entry-put' :PROPERTIES: :ALLTAGS: True :END: You can define the #+COLUMNS: so that the default column view for a particular file always show inherited tags. HTH, -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] POLL: Volume of emacs-orgmode too high?
Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am worried that this will scare away some members. Do we need to address this, or will people stick around and just wait until things cool off a bit? For my part, it's okay, and I will slow down a bit :) P.S. I know that this will lead to even more messages in the next few days, but it is for a good cause :-) For the good cause as well, here are a few stats about the list. Data have been collected between March 2006 (gmane access?) and now: Total number of posts: 3873 Average bytes/post: 5170.235218 Total number of posters: 238 Average posts/poster: 16.273109 1154 Carsten Dominik 371 Bastien 217 Leo 112 Eddward DeVilla 82 Jason F. McBrayer 70 Bernt Hansen 70 David O'Toole 69 Rainer Stengele 67 T. V. Raman 63 Xavier Maillard 59 Scott Jaderholm 51 William Henney 47 J. David Boyd 40 Tim O'Callaghan 39 Piotr Zielinski 37 John Wiegley 35 Russell Adams 35 Scott Otterson 33 Georg C. F. Greve 33 Daniel J. Sinder Total number of subjects: 1055 Average posts/subject: 3.671090 55 depending TODOs, scheduling following TODOs automatically 34 log on state change 33 Integration of Org mode and mairix 30 Org-mode version 5.01 26 an annoying indentation 24 Integration of Org mode and Gnus 23 Feature request: Selective encryption 23 Another GTD question. 21 Org-mode 4.78 19 Categories 19 Release: Org-mode 5.09 19 Duration Tally 18 Attention XEmacs users 17 Tutorials 16 org-mode and Google Calendar 16 postponing todos 16 Idea: Agenda Search publish? 15 Feature Request: org-agenda-set-category 15 Org-mode with color-theme.el 14 GTD: Solving the bottleneck of converting incoming mails to NEXT actions Links to the first five most active subjects: 55 depending TODOs, scheduling following TODOs automatically http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/3641 34 log on state change http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/2887 33 Integration of Org mode and mairix http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/2513 30 Org-mode version 5.01 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/2209 26 an annoying indentation http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/2005 -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] suggestion : collapsed levels
Richard G Riley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think this is not a good idea. It would breack the logical meaning of ... and the way it's used outside of Org. For readability we will have to agree to disagree on that one. When scanning headings I dont want to have to move the eyes right to check for potential tags (which might be in a hard to read font as you have) to locate the Maybe your proposal is more readable in some ways, but I think the *meaning* of ... is more important and should not be ignored, even with good readability concerns. BTW, the meaning of readable depends on what you *want* to read: some people might want to easily read the tags as well... I think your issue is more about visual uniformity than about readability. But livable with :-; :) -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] POLL: Volume of emacs-orgmode too high?
No problem for me. It's nice to have such an active and friendly community. Ian. I am worried that this will scare away some members. Do we need to address this, or will people stick around and just wait until things cool off a bit? ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: POLL: Volume of emacs-orgmode too high?
Hi, Nuutti Kotivuori [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Carsten Dominik wrote: Hi, the mailing list has been extremely active recently, we have had close to 20 email a day. I am worried that this will scare away some members. Do we need to address this, or will people stick around and just wait until things cool off a bit? I just subscribed to this list (thus posting a followup to Nuuttis post). 20 mails a day sound pretty OK to me. Using Gnus makes handling of this easy :-) Best Regards Stefan -- Stefan Kamphausen --- http://www.skamphausen.de a blessed +42 regexp of confusion (weapon in hand) You hit. The format string crumbles and turns to dust. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] scope of properties in a narrowed buffer, links in certain environments etc.
Hi Carsten and list, due to all the traffic on the list (Good Thing) and too much traffic on the railroad to work this morning (Bad Thing), I went reading up on the org-mode mailing list and installed the latest version today (was coming from 4.56), and trying to use column view and properties. Which are great. In my enthousiasm however, I discovered some bugs, especially after an `org-narrow-to-subtree'-call. Column view on a narrowed subtree does take into account the file-wide #+COLUMNS directive, but *not* the :COLUMNS: property of a parent tree outside of the narrowing. Actually, this issue seems to be larger: `org-set-property' does scan the whole file for properties, but prop_ALL from a parent tree outside of the narrowing does not have any effect on the values shown. In column view links are not propertised as links, so the full text shows. Also, C-c C-o does not work here to follow a link in a line (or rather: column). Whilst on the subject of links, in the agenda buffer, for some reason C-c C-o has trouble when a link is not on the end of a line. The following in org-agenda-open-link patch fixes this: (however, it will still just follow the /first/ link on the line) diff -w c:/tmp/org-5.12c/org.el c:/tmp/org-5.12c/org2.el 20251a20252 (beginning-of-line) 20255c20256,20258 (call-interactively 'org-open-at-point) --- (progn (beginning-of-line) (call-interactively 'org-open-at-point)) Diff finished. Tue Oct 16 14:08:55 2007 Using Org-mode version 5.12c on GNU Emacs 23.0.0.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2007-01-01 on DTOP Greetings to you all! Niels Giesen ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] FR: toggling timestamps active/inactive
Hi Carsten, Another simple idea - subject line is pretty much self-explanatory I think: would be great to be able to toggle timestamps between [] and . Why? Say I have an event in my diary.org file, and am subsequently told my presence at the event is no longer necessary. Consequently I would like to keep it in the file for reference, to track colleagues' movements or in case my presence is re-required, but I don't want the event to appear in the agenda. By the way, I probably could have coded this in the time it took to write the mail, but I thought that until I've sent a piece of paper to the FSF assigning rights for code contributed to org-mode and emacs, it would be better to let Carsten write it. Is that correct or flawed thinking? ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Turning on column view marks buffer modified
If I turn on column view for the whole buffer by pressing C-c C-x C-c at the top of the buffer (blank area), the buffer would be marked modified. But if I do it just on a subtree, everything is normal. Does anybody see the same thing? thanks. Wanrong ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] bug in links ?
Hi, Carsten I think I've found a bug regarding the hyperlink. Org-mode version 5.12c GNU Emacs 22.1.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2007-06-02 on RELEASE 1. What exactly did you do? I wrote the file. I enabled the debugger (Options/Enter Debugger on error) I clicked on the links. The acs link was OK, the browser opened the link. So far so good 2. What did you expect to happen? That the browser would open the aip and isof links as well. 3. What happened instead? isof and aip links did not trigger the browser. Please see the debugger trace This is the org file: -- -*- mode: org; -*- * acs link #+LINK: acs http://pubs3.acs.org/acs/journals/toc.page?incoden=%s [[acs:achre4][Acc Chem Res] ] [[acs:achre4][Acc Chem Res]] this is the link. The acs link is ok: if I click on it my browser opens the page Debugger: | Loading browse-url...done | | Starting c:/Documents and Settings/Gaetano/Documenti/firefox/Mozilla |Firefox/firefox.exe... | * aip link #+LINK aip http://scitation.aip.org/%s http://scitation.aip.org/aplo/ I can open this link too. |Starting c:/Documents and Settings/Gaetano/Documenti/firefox/Mozilla | Firefox/firefox.exe... But if I use the compact form: [[aip:aplo/][Appl. Phys. Lett.]] | Here follows the debugger trace: /// Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error No match) signal(error (No match)) error(No match) (if (or (org-search-not-self 1 re0 nil t) (org-search-not-self 1 re1 nil t) (org-search-not-self 1 re2 nil t) (org-search-not-self 1 re2a nil t) (org-search-not-self 1 re3 nil t) (org-search-not-self 1 re4 nil t) (org-search-not-self 1 re5 nil t)) (goto-char (match-beginning 1)) (goto-char pos) (error No match)) (cond ((eq type ...) (org-occur reall)) ((eq type ...) (org-do-occur ... ...)) (t (goto-char ...) (if ... ... ... ...))) (cond ((run-hook-with-args-until-success ... s)) ((save-excursion ... ...) (goto-char pos)) ((string-match ^/\\(.*\\)/$ s) (cond ... ...)) (t (when ... ...) (remove-text-properties 0 ... ... s) (setq words ... re0 ... re2 ... re2a ... re4 ... re1 ... re3 ... re5 ... re2 ... re2a ... re4 ... reall ...) (cond ... ... ...)) (t (goto-char ...) (if ... ... ...))) (let ((case-fold-search t) (s0 ...) (markers ...) (pos ...) (pre ) (post ) words re0 re1 re2 re3 re4 re5 re2a reall) (cond (...) (... ...) (... ...) (t ... ... ... ...) (t ... ...)) (and (org-mode-p) (org-show-context ...))) org-link-search(aip:aplo/ nil 18107) eval((org-link-search aip:aplo/ nil 18107)) (progn (widen) (eval cmd)) (condition-case nil (eval cmd) (error (progn ... ...))) (let ((cmd ...)) (condition-case nil (eval cmd) (error ...))) (cond ((assoc type org-link-protocols) (funcall ... path)) ((equal type mailto) (let ... ... ... ...)) ((member type ...) (browse-url ...)) ((string= type tags) (org-tags-view in-emacs path)) ((string= type thisfile) (if in-emacs ... ...) (let ... ...)) ((string= type tree-match) (org-occur ...)) ((string= type file) (if ... ... ...) (org-open-file path in-emacs line search)) ((string= type news) (org-follow-gnus-link path)) ((string= type bbdb) (org-follow-bbdb-link path)) ((string= type info) (org-follow-info-link path)) ((string= type gnus) (let ... ... ... ...)) ((string= type vm) (let ... ... ... ...)) ((string= type wl) (let ... ... ... ...)) ((string= type mhe) (let ... ... ... ...)) ((string= type rmail) (let ... ... ... ...)) ((string= type shell) (let ... ... ... ...)) ((string= type elisp) (let ... ...)) (t (browse-url-at-point))) (let (type path link line search (pos ...)) (catch (quote match) (save-excursion ... ...) (when ... ... ...) (save-excursion ...) (when ... ... ...) (save-excursion ...)) (unless path (error No link found)) (if (string-match +\\' path) (setq path ...)) (cond (... ...) (... ...) (... ...) (... ...) (... ... ...) (... ...) (... ... ...) (... ...) (... ...) (... ...) (... ...) (... ...) (... ...) (... ...) (... ...) (... ...) (... ...) (t ...))) (if (org-at-timestamp-p t) (org-follow-timestamp-link) (let (type path link line search ...) (catch ... ... ... ... ... ...) (unless path ...) (if ... ...) (cond ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...))) org-open-at-point() org-open-at-mouse((mouse-2 (#window 3 on f3.org 18107 (64 . 246) 25297926 nil 18107 (8 . 15) nil (0 . 6) (8 . 16 call-interactively(org-open-at-mouse) Please, note that if I leave the debugger trace within the file the cursor jumps to the org-link-search(aip:aplo/ nil 18107) line and no debugger buffer is displayed. * Here another, slightly different example: isof link #+LINK isof http://www.isof.cnr.it/ If I click on the link inside the #+LINK line the browser is launched. also if I click on this link: http://www.isof.cnr.it/istituto.html But for the link: [[isof:istituto.html][isof
Re: [Orgmode] Re: POLL: Volume of emacs-orgmode too high?
Nuutti Kotivuori wrote: Carsten Dominik wrote: Hi, the mailing list has been extremely active recently, we have had close to 20 email a day. I am worried that this will scare away some members. Do we need to address this, or will people stick around and just wait until things cool off a bit? I think it is fine. The issues raised on the mailing list are very much to the point and actually relevant to org-mode. Agreed. I do fall behind on reading it every now and then but I always try and catch up because the quality of discussions is so high. I like having such a receptive community. R. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: POLL: Volume of emacs-orgmode too high?
Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the mailing list has been extremely active recently, we have had close to 20 email a day. I am worried that this will scare away some members. Do we need to address this, or will people stick around and just wait until things cool off a bit? - Carsten P.S. I know that this will lead to even more messages in the next few days, but it is for a good cause :-) I'm not going anywhere :) Gnus and gmane is wonderful! Regards, Bernt ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: POLL: Volume of emacs-orgmode too high?
On 10/16/07, Rick Moynihan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nuutti Kotivuori wrote: Carsten Dominik wrote: Hi, the mailing list has been extremely active recently, we have had close to 20 email a day. I am worried that this will scare away some members. Do we need to address this, or will people stick around and just wait until things cool off a bit? I think it is fine. The issues raised on the mailing list are very much to the point and actually relevant to org-mode. Agreed. I do fall behind on reading it every now and then but I always try and catch up because the quality of discussions is so high. I like having such a receptive community. Agreed too. Sometimes my eyes glaze over the GTD threads, but I can always mute the threads I'm not interested in. Perhaps an additional low volume org-mode-announce list would be a good idea for those more interested in product than process... Cheers Will -- Dr William Henney, Centro de Radioastronomía y Astrofísica, Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México, Campus Morelia ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] request re default year in date
Hi -- [[resending because I sent earlier from different email address.]] As I begin to schedule meetings and tasks for the next calendar year, I find that the default year (if I say, for example, jan 7) is the current calendar year. Of course, that's what the documentation says it will be, but I wonder if we could have at least an option for the default year to be the next year if one is inserting a date that's already past for this calendar year -- in my case, at least, if I'm now inserting the date jan 7 -- or even sep 30 -- it's much more likely that I'm wanting the date from 2008 than from 2007. I know that the 2008 date is only two keystrokes away -- i.e., I can type sep 30 8 at the prompt and get 2008-09-30 Tue -- so I can live with it the way it is. Just looking to have the program think the way i think, I guess ;) -- John Rakestraw signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Turning on column view marks buffer modified
I just found out things are even stranger: I have a level 1 heading * HR. Every time the column view is turned on, an extra space is added to the end of that heading, which is why the buffer is marked modified. But it only happens on that HR heading. What is so special about the word HR (stands for Human Resources for me) You can try this out by just pasting the following two lines into a temporary org file: * HR *** Holidays Wanrong Wanrong Lin wrote: If I turn on column view for the whole buffer by pressing C-c C-x C-c at the top of the buffer (blank area), the buffer would be marked modified. But if I do it just on a subtree, everything is normal. Does anybody see the same thing? thanks. Wanrong ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Turning on column view marks buffer modified
More observations: It is not that the word HR is so special. Actually, as long as there is any level 1 heading with two capital letters only, like AB CD HK or whatever, this strange behavior happens. Does anyone has a clue about this? Thank you. Wanrong Wanrong Lin wrote: I just found out things are even stranger: I have a level 1 heading * HR. Every time the column view is turned on, an extra space is added to the end of that heading, which is why the buffer is marked modified. But it only happens on that HR heading. What is so special about the word HR (stands for Human Resources for me) You can try this out by just pasting the following two lines into a temporary org file: * HR *** Holidays Wanrong Wanrong Lin wrote: If I turn on column view for the whole buffer by pressing C-c C-x C-c at the top of the buffer (blank area), the buffer would be marked modified. But if I do it just on a subtree, everything is normal. Does anybody see the same thing? thanks. Wanrong ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] FR: toggling timestamps active/inactive
Adam Spiers wrote: Hi Carsten, Another simple idea - subject line is pretty much self-explanatory I think: would be great to be able to toggle timestamps between [] and . Why? Say I have an event in my diary.org file, and am subsequently told my presence at the event is no longer necessary. Consequently I would like to keep it in the file for reference, to track colleagues' movements or in case my presence is re-required, but I don't want the event to appear in the agenda. By the way, I probably could have coded this in the time it took to write the mail, but I thought that until I've sent a piece of paper to the FSF assigning rights for code contributed to org-mode and emacs, it would be better to let Carsten write it. Is that correct or flawed thinking? This seems like a good idea. Another related one occurred to me today (if it's necessary) which is toggling between the two list indicators. e.g. - foo - bar - baz |-- Point Calling the toggle-list-indicator function at the point will cause the list indicator to change from a - to a + (and vice versa). R. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: POLL: Volume of emacs-orgmode too high?
William Henney wrote: Agreed. I do fall behind on reading it every now and then but I always try and catch up because the quality of discussions is so high. I like having such a receptive community. Agreed too. Sometimes my eyes glaze over the GTD threads, but I can always mute the threads I'm not interested in. Perhaps an additional low volume org-mode-announce list would be a good idea for those more interested in product than process... To be honest I think we're still too small to justify the overhead of another list. When we're touching on having 100s of posts a day, maybe. R. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] FR: more flexible customization of org-agenda-custom-commands key bindings
First, apologies for the constant gimme nature of my recent feature-request posts! org-agenda-custom-commands is awesome in its power. There are one or two respects in which I think it could be improved, however. I make extensive use of the functionality added relatively recently which enables you to select a tag or TODO keyword with a single keystroke. I would now like to build a load of corresponding custom agenda commands which search for the tag or keyword created with the same keystroke. So for example, if I marked a TODO with the :sub60: tag via C-c C-c 6 RET to indicate that I think the task will take less than 60 minutes to complete, I would also like to be able to press C-c C-a 6 to search all agenda files for that tag. This poses no problems in this and most cases. However, I would like to have a quick binding for listing priorities: C-c C-a A - to list anything marked [#A] C-c C-a B - to list anything marked [#B] C-c C-a C - to list anything marked [#C] I copied the elisp using org-agenda-skip-entry-if from John's great day planner page[1] to achieve these, and it works great. But it overwrites the default binding of C-c C-a C which is a handy shortcut for customizing org-agenda-custom-commands. So I would like to be able to move that to another key. I noticed there is an option to make a custom agenda command call Other, user-defined function, but the relevant bit of org-agenda seems to be: ((fboundp type) (org-let lprops '(funcall type match))) which doesn't allow lambda functions. If I define my own function: (defun as-test (match) (interactive) (customize-group 'org-agenda-custom-commands)) and refer to that, it works, but it would be nice if lambdas worked. Similarly, I would like to bind C-c C-a 1 to search for tasks which can be done in under 10 minutes (`:sub10:'), and C-c C-a 0 for something else, but they are hard-bound to limiting the scope of an imminent search. It seems to me there are two possible approaches to solve these binding conflicts. One would be to move the currently hard-coded bindings all into org-agenda-custom-commands as default values. This would require extending what a custom command can do in some cases, as witnessed with the lambda issue above. Another approach, and this is my personal preference, would be to allow sub-keymaps, so that e.g. I could press C-c C-a s and it would present me with a further menu of single keystrokes bound to custom agenda commands: C-c C-a s 1search for :sub10: (10 minute tasks) C-c C-a s 2search for :sub120: (2 hour tasks) C-c C-a s 3search for :sub30: (30 minute tasks) C-c C-a s 4search for :sub40: (4 hour tasks) etc. Not only would this approach make it easier to avoid binding conflicts with hard-coded bindings, but it also has the advantage of providing distinct keymaps for different types of searches, e.g. one keymap could be for searching by GTD context, another by task A/B/C priority, another by TODO keyword, and so on. Thoughts? [1] http://www.newartisans.com/blog_files/org.mode.day.planner.php ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] FR: toggling timestamps active/inactive
Rick Moynihan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Adam Spiers wrote: Hi Carsten, Another simple idea - subject line is pretty much self-explanatory I think: would be great to be able to toggle timestamps between [] and . Why? Say I have an event in my diary.org file, and am subsequently told my presence at the event is no longer necessary. Consequently I would like to keep it in the file for reference, to track colleagues' movements or in case my presence is re-required, but I don't want the event to appear in the agenda. By the way, I probably could have coded this in the time it took to write the mail, but I thought that until I've sent a piece of paper to the FSF assigning rights for code contributed to org-mode and emacs, it would be better to let Carsten write it. Is that correct or flawed thinking? This seems like a good idea. Another related one occurred to me today (if it's necessary) which is toggling between the two list indicators. e.g. - foo - bar - baz |-- Point Calling the toggle-list-indicator function at the point will cause the list indicator to change from a - to a + (and vice versa). Nice idea! Or even between - and *** at the current level. Maybe that should cycle. Or maybe there are already existing keybindings which distinguish between new - and *** entries? M-RET doesn't always DWIM, personally. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Free `1' and `0' keys from the org-agenda interface ?
Hi all, i'd like to have your opinion on this. I tend to use my `org-agenda-custom-commands' in a strict order. I first check for a first view, then check for a second view, etc. It would be nice to be able to use `1' for the first view -- but it's currently used to restrict the agenda view to the buffer. My suggestion for a possible replacement for the `1' and `0' keys would be this: `' : restrict to the buffer `' : restrict to the region or subtree Note: `' could also be `@' since `C-c @' means select the current subtree. I think it's okay to have some kind of incremental restriction, but I'm not sure about this. And I'd definitely like to have the [0-9] keys for my own agenda views :) Did anyone ever meet the same need? Thanks, PS: I think today will be the craziest day in term of list traffic! -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Free `1' and `0' keys from the org-agenda interface ?
Bastien ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi all, i'd like to have your opinion on this. I tend to use my `org-agenda-custom-commands' in a strict order. I first check for a first view, then check for a second view, etc. It would be nice to be able to use `1' for the first view -- but it's currently used to restrict the agenda view to the buffer. My suggestion for a possible replacement for the `1' and `0' keys would be this: `' : restrict to the buffer `' : restrict to the region or subtree Note: `' could also be `@' since `C-c @' means select the current subtree. I think it's okay to have some kind of incremental restriction, but I'm not sure about this. And I'd definitely like to have the [0-9] keys for my own agenda views :) Wow, what can I say? I think those two mails arrived with 30 seconds of each other - great minds think alike ;-) I'm only just starting to use custom commands; however, your comment about typically invoking custom commands in a strict order doesn't surprise me. I might well find my usage habits following the same trait. I'm curious about your suggestion of '' though - does that imply the sub-keymap functionality I asked for already exists? ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] FR: more flexible customization of org-agenda-custom-commands key bindings
Adam Spiers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Another approach, and this is my personal preference, would be to allow sub-keymaps, so that e.g. I could press C-c C-a s and it would present me with a further menu of single keystrokes bound to custom agenda commands: C-c C-a s 1search for :sub10: (10 minute tasks) C-c C-a s 2search for :sub120: (2 hour tasks) C-c C-a s 3search for :sub30: (30 minute tasks) C-c C-a s 4search for :sub40: (4 hour tasks) etc. Not only would this approach make it easier to avoid binding conflicts with hard-coded bindings, but it also has the advantage of providing distinct keymaps for different types of searches, e.g. one keymap could be for searching by GTD context, another by task A/B/C priority, another by TODO keyword, and so on. Thoughts? Fully agreed on sub-keymaps -- even though I have no clue on how hard it is to implement. -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] FR: toggling timestamps active/inactive
Adam Spiers wrote: This seems like a good idea. Another related one occurred to me today (if it's necessary) which is toggling between the two list indicators. e.g. - foo - bar - baz |-- Point Calling the toggle-list-indicator function at the point will cause the list indicator to change from a - to a + (and vice versa). Nice idea! Or even between - and *** at the current level. Maybe that should cycle. Or maybe there are already existing keybindings which distinguish between new - and *** entries? M-RET doesn't always DWIM, personally. Yes! This is another that issue that gets me, I often press M-RET expecting a list, but get an outline. Having a keybinding to quickly toggle between these sorts of things when they occur *might* be nice. R. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] POLL: Volume of emacs-orgmode too high?
On 10/16/07, Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, the mailing list has been extremely active recently, we have had close to 20 email a day. I am worried that this will scare away some members. Do we need to address this, or will people stick around and just wait until things cool off a bit? - Carsten P.S. I know that this will lead to even more messages in the next few days, but it is for a good cause :-) I've been having a little trouble keeping up and have skimmed over some of the thread I'm not as interested in. I'm still glad that there is enough interest to have this kind of traffic. That outliner I depended on before org-mode died from lack of interest. Edd ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Free `1' and `0' keys from the org-agenda interface ?
On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 06:53:47PM +0100, Bastien wrote: Adam Spiers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm curious about your suggestion of '' though - does that imply the sub-keymap functionality I asked for already exists? I first thought yes, since it looks like the first `' keystroke is waiting for the next one (at least from the description I proposed). But in fact there is no sub-keymap involved here: it's only about cycling through three states: - not-restricted - buffer-restricted - subtree/region-resctricted Then three keystrokes would turn off the restriction. But calling a sub-keymap with `' could also be useful: ` ' : cycle through default restricted states (see above) Hmm, that doubles the number of keypresses to achieve a given state, which is a bit cumbersome. But if it's customizable, who cares? :-) ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Turning on column view marks buffer modified
On Oct 16, 2007, at 17:44, Wanrong Lin wrote: I just found out things are even stranger: I have a level 1 heading * HR. Every time the column view is turned on, an extra space is added to the end of that heading, which is why the buffer is marked modified. But it only happens on that HR heading. What is so special about the word HR (stands for Human Resources for me) The reason ist that your headline is so short. Column view internal need on character in the headline for each column to display. Therefore, it adds space characters if you have more columns than characters. Don't really know how to change this - I guess I could avoid marking the buffer marked just because of this. - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Column view bugs
Bastien [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Vagn Johansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I could also see a use for a state-dependent {:}. Display the sum of
times and also the sum of times for tasks that are DONE. E.g. for
adding time-estimates and measuring progress. Or maybe add up the
not-DONEs to show the remaining time.
Isn't this already achievable with a clever todo/archive structure?
Sort of. But I do not want to be forced to use a specific structure.
Also it gives incorrect sums if you havee subproject with with mixed
TODO and DONE tasks.
--
Vagn Johansen
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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Turning on column view marks buffer modified
Carsten Dominik wrote: On Oct 16, 2007, at 17:44, Wanrong Lin wrote: I just found out things are even stranger: I have a level 1 heading * HR. Every time the column view is turned on, an extra space is added to the end of that heading, which is why the buffer is marked modified. But it only happens on that HR heading. What is so special about the word HR (stands for Human Resources for me) The reason ist that your headline is so short. Column view internal need on character in the headline for each column to display. Therefore, it adds space characters if you have more columns than characters. Don't really know how to change this - I guess I could avoid marking the buffer marked just because of this. - Carsten That will be nice if you can add that work-around. I am compelled to do an undo when I see a buffer is marked modified for no good reason because I am afraid of inserting characters accidentally since we all press those short-cut keys so fast. One thing I hate about Microsoft word is when you close a word file, even if you did not do anything to it, it often asks you whether you want to save your changes. Thank you. Wanrong ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: POLL: Volume of emacs-orgmode too high?
Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, the mailing list has been extremely active recently, we have had close to 20 email a day. I am worried that this will scare away some members. Do we need to address this, or will people stick around and just wait until things cool off a bit? - Carsten Absolutely not. FYI, I find the increased traffic a little reassuring that there are others using the software. I already feel lonely in office using Emacs :-) sivaram ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Free `1' and `0' keys from the org-agenda interface ?
Adam Spiers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ` ' : cycle through default restricted states (see above) Hmm, that doubles the number of keypresses to achieve a given state, which is a bit cumbersome. But if it's customizable, who cares? :-) I wouldn't mind having single keys to achieve this - it's just that I thought `1' and `0' where not the best choice. -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] POLL: Volume of emacs-orgmode too high?
Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am worried that this will scare away some members. Do we need to address this, or will people stick around and just wait until things cool off a bit? Doesn't worry me at all. I know I haven't posted anything for a long while but I am still happy watching the development of this great mode and love the energy that seems to be surrounding it at the moment. (It has certainly come a long way from v3.? or whatever might have been the first version I sent bug reports on...) Phil ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Unschedule an item in column view
First, I have just begun to use column view. Although it seems it still has bugs here and there, it is a awesome concept! I never thought in a text based system we can achieve something similar to MS project (Sort of. I wouldn't want to see org-mode to emulate everything in MS project anyway.) Now, my question/suggestion: I have my column format set to: %66ITEM %10TODO %10SCHEDULED %3PRIORITY %TAGS When I press e in the Scheduled column, how can I unschedule (remove the existing date) the item? Can we use nil or maybe other special character to indicate that no date is selected? I can certainly use C-u C-c C-s to unschedule and press r to refresh, but that kills the fun of editing in place. Thanks for giving this a thought. Wanrong ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: A Blorg/org based blog
On 14/10/2007, Bastien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First impressions are that Blorg seems to work quite well, though it takes some setting up, and could be made more flexible Sure. I wrote blorg more than one year ago, and I made the mistake of trying too add too many functions too early. Ahhh, the benefit of hindsight :) You may feel you've added the features too quick, but the feature set seems reasonably good. Since that time, Org changed a lot and introduced properties - blorg should be able to take advantage of them somehow. Also, some code I wrote in org-export-latex.el could be of some help in parsing the Org file to get it published as a blog. Yes, I can imagine that properties might be useful, perhaps for enabling/disabling features at publish time (e.g. comment forms etc...). This said I'm only just starting to explore their uses in plain org-mode, so I don't really know yet. My plan is to rewrite blorg nearly from scratch, trying not to rush on functionnalities and adding them only if people need them. Yes it's a good strategy and one that's worked well for org-mode. I do however have some features which I'd like to see. If it's not too rude, I'll list some here: - Ability to define your own HTML head's. Specifically here the issue was wanting to list a 3rd party feed (feedburner) rather than my own as a link in the head. I did in fact modify blorg.el to do this through a new customize variable. If you want I can send you the patch. - Ability to include code blocks in posts (with syntax highlighting). - The ability to make an image a link i.e. to output a href=...img .../a - To allow sorting of published posts by their date rather than their order in the org-mode file. - To have more customizable echoes. I also noticed that my templates tended to be practically identical, causing a lot of duplicated code between them. Being able to include your own elisp in these templates would also be handy. Also writing/copyingpasting HTML inside customize buffers is a little painful. sometimes seems to be a little temperamental in publishing to html with links not rendering properly etc The next version of blorg will use Org internals for rendering HTML. This makes a lot of sense. The good thing of all this is that, no matter how far blorg1 will be from blorg0, you can always work on your Org source without worrying too much on this! Source is source :) Agreed! This said I'm already eager to move to blorg1. It'd be great if I could use my old blorg.org file on the new version though, even if I have to change my configuration. Thanks again! R. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: FR: toggling timestamps active/inactive
Adam Spiers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: By the way, I probably could have coded this in the time it took to write the mail, but I thought that until I've sent a piece of paper to the FSF assigning rights for code contributed to org-mode and emacs, it would be better to let Carsten write it. Is that correct or flawed thinking? As far as I know you do not need an assignement, i.e. all the paperwork for only a small patch. What constitutes a small patch I don't know. Might be answered in one of the GNU FAQs. HTH Christian ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: FR: toggling timestamps active/inactive
Christian Egli [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What constitutes a small patch I don't know. Might be answered in one of the GNU FAQs. From memory: beyond 15 lines, the patch is not small anymore. -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Free `1' and `0' keys from the org-agenda interface ?
Bastien [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I tend to use my `org-agenda-custom-commands' in a strict order. I first check for a first view, then check for a second view, etc. Why not just display all those views, in order, with one custom command? For example, when I'm at home, I run C-c a h: (h home contexts ((tags-todo [EMAIL PROTECTED]@computer/TODO nil) (tags-todo [EMAIL PROTECTED]@computer/TODO nil) (tags-todo [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]/TODO nil) (tags-todo @phone/TODO nil) (tags-todo @any/TODO nil)) -- ajk ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] PocketMod for org-mode
Christian Egli [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The attached script generates a pocketMod style pdf which contains the next four weeks, the next three months and the current year on one page. It also generates a hipsterPDA style printout which contains the same calendars to be used in hipsterPDA style. Hey, that's great! I didn't heard about pocketMod before. Can you send a PDF example of the output? I tried your Makefile but could not get any output (yet). I think it's mainly because I don't have any of pdfnup/pdfjoin/pdf90 - where does it come from? On what system? Maybe a bit more of explanation on how to use this Makefile would also be useful. Looks promising, thanks! -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Free `1' and `0' keys from the org-agenda interface ?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew J. Korty) writes: Bastien [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I tend to use my `org-agenda-custom-commands' in a strict order. I first check for a first view, then check for a second view, etc. Why not just display all those views, in order, with one custom command? Yes, good idea. But I still think it would be nice to be able to bind the [0-9] keys. One advantage of these keys is that they are very easy to memorize, and this might help when trying to go from one agenda view to another. -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: A Blorg/org based blog
Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes it's a good strategy and one that's worked well for org-mode. I do however have some features which I'd like to see. If it's not too rude, I'll list some here: - Ability to define your own HTML head's. Specifically here the issue was wanting to list a 3rd party feed (feedburner) rather than my own as a link in the head. I did in fact modify blorg.el to do this through a new customize variable. If you want I can send you the patch. Please do! - Ability to include code blocks in posts (with syntax highlighting). I've just discovered the htmlize-output-type variable (letting some htmlized code to be embedded in other HTML documents), so it should be possible. - The ability to make an image a link i.e. to output a href=...img .../a - To allow sorting of published posts by their date rather than their order in the org-mode file. - To have more customizable echoes. Agreed. I also noticed that my templates tended to be practically identical, causing a lot of duplicated code between them. Yes, some re-factorization needed here. Being able to include your own elisp in these templates would also be handy. Also writing/copyingpasting HTML inside customize buffers is a little painful. Mhh.. true. Thanks for the feedback! -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: PocketMod for org-mode
Christian, Because I've been trying something similar (but not as advanced), I'm intrigued by the possibilities of your approach. Sadly, I can't run your Makefile. I get an error[1]. Am I missing something? About font size, I've found that for what we're trying to do, it helps to replace \tiny with \small globally. Also, a little gotcha I've found, which may catch some of us org-mode GTD-ers: cal-tex.el does not check for the @ symbol when inputting from the diary, and thus does not escape it, leading to latex-errors on processing. Footnotes: [1] Wrong type argument: char-or-string-p, nil make: *** [weekCalendar.tex] Error 255 -- -- Dan Griswold Rochester, NY -- ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Re: Org-mode version 5.12
On Oct 15, 2007, at 22:59, Fabian Braennstroem wrote: One more great feature would be an additional option to the 'tree-to-indirect-buffer' function from the resulting agenda view. An indirect buffer is not something that is extracted, it is just another view on the same buffer. In this case it is narrowed, and you can get back the rest of the buffer by widening it. What you are asking for is basically to go back to the top level heading and jump that tree into an indirect buffer. This does not really help a lot, I guess. - Carsten -- Carsten Dominik Sterrenkundig Instituut Anton Pannekoek Universiteit van Amsterdam Kruislaan 403 NL-1098SJ Amsterdam phone: +31 20 525 7477 ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] bug in links ?
On Oct 16, 2007, at 16:49, Giovanni Ridolfi wrote: Hi, Carsten I think I've found a bug regarding the hyperlink. Org-mode version 5.12c GNU Emacs 22.1.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2007-06-02 on RELEASE 1. What exactly did you do? I wrote the file. I enabled the debugger (Options/Enter Debugger on error) I clicked on the links. The acs link was OK, the browser opened the link. So far so good 2. What did you expect to happen? That the browser would open the aip and isof links as well. 3. What happened instead? isof and aip links did not trigger the browser. Please see the debugger trace This is the org file: -- -*- mode: org; -*- * acs link #+LINK: acs http://pubs3.acs.org/acs/journals/toc.page?incoden=%s [[acs:achre4][Acc Chem Res] ] [[acs:achre4][Acc Chem Res]] this is the link. The acs link is ok: if I click on it my browser opens the page Debugger: | Loading browse-url...done | | Starting c:/Documents and Settings/Gaetano/Documenti/firefox/Mozilla |Firefox/firefox.exe... | * aip link #+LINK aip http://scitation.aip.org/%s There is a colon missing after LINK. - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Unschedule an item in column view
On Oct 16, 2007, at 23:23, Wanrong Lin wrote: First, I have just begun to use column view. Although it seems it still has bugs here and there, it is a awesome concept! I never thought in a text based system we can achieve something similar to MS project (Sort of. I wouldn't want to see org-mode to emulate everything in MS project anyway.) Now, my question/suggestion: I have my column format set to: %66ITEM %10TODO %10SCHEDULED %3PRIORITY %TAGS When I press e in the Scheduled column, how can I unschedule (remove the existing date) the item? Can we use nil or maybe other special character to indicate that no date is selected? I can certainly use C-u C-c C-s to unschedule and press r to refresh, but that kills the fun of editing in place. Thanks for giving this a thought. I have. This is `C-u e' since `e' in the SCHEUDLED column only calls `org-schedule'. - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] FR: toggling timestamps active/inactive
On Oct 16, 2007, at 18:22, Adam Spiers wrote: Rick Moynihan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Adam Spiers wrote: Hi Carsten, Another simple idea - subject line is pretty much self-explanatory I think: would be great to be able to toggle timestamps between [] and . Why? Say I have an event in my diary.org file, and am subsequently told my presence at the event is no longer necessary. Consequently I would like to keep it in the file for reference, to track colleagues' movements or in case my presence is re-required, but I don't want the event to appear in the agenda. By the way, I probably could have coded this in the time it took to write the mail, but I thought that until I've sent a piece of paper to the FSF assigning rights for code contributed to org-mode and emacs, it would be better to let Carsten write it. Is that correct or flawed thinking? This seems like a good idea. Another related one occurred to me today (if it's necessary) which is toggling between the two list indicators. e.g. - foo - bar - baz |-- Point This cammand does exist, it is `C-c -'. Calling the toggle-list-indicator function at the point will cause the list indicator to change from a - to a + (and vice versa). Nice idea! Or even between - and *** at the current level. Maybe that should cycle. Or maybe there are already existing keybindings which distinguish between new - and *** entries? M-RET doesn't always DWIM, personally. When you are in a list, M-RET makes the next list item, C-u M-RET makes the next section, and C-RET does the same - even if for different reasons. In what sense does M-RET not DWYM? - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
