Re: [Orgmode] undo in org.el
On 14Nov2007, at 12:17 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote: On 13Nov2007, at 11:50 PM, Wes Nakamura wrote: | On 13/11/2007, Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Dammit, if I only had know about this earlier! I implemented | multibuffer undo for the agenda, sort-of by hand. This looks much | easier, but on this other hand it will not work on XEmacs. | | Sometimes I wander how many XEmacs users are out there, and if it is | still worth supporting it | | | - Carsten | Another XEmacs user here. On XEmacs I like being able to have a default variable width font in the org-mode buffer but still have the calendar, etc, come up in a monospace font in a different buffer in the same frame. I haven't been able to do this in Emacs since I believe fonts are not buffer local but applied to a frame. Yes, XEmacs has many great features. I did use it for many years as my main Emacs. - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: undo in org.el
Wes Nakamura [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Wes, On XEmacs I like being able to have a default variable width font in the org-mode buffer but still have the calendar, etc, come up in a monospace font in a different buffer in the same frame. I haven't been able to do this in Emacs since I believe fonts are not buffer local but applied to a frame. That's wrong. You can mix as many proportional and variable width faces in one buffer as you whish. For example you could use big variable width fonts for org headlines and small proportional fonts for the normal content. Simply set point on the face you want to change and hit `M-x customize-face RET'. Bye, Tassilo ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] undo in org.el
On 13Nov2007, at 11:50 PM, Wes Nakamura wrote: | On 13/11/2007, Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Dammit, if I only had know about this earlier! I implemented | multibuffer undo for the agenda, sort-of by hand. This looks much | easier, but on this other hand it will not work on XEmacs. | | Sometimes I wander how many XEmacs users are out there, and if it is | still worth supporting it | | | - Carsten | Another XEmacs user here. On XEmacs I like being able to have a default variable width font in the org-mode buffer but still have the calendar, etc, come up in a monospace font in a different buffer in the same frame. I haven't been able to do this in Emacs since I believe fonts are not buffer local but applied to a frame. I am not sure about this, but yes, XEmacs has many great features, like specifyiers. I did use it for many years as my main Emacs. - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Updating OrgMode
Hi Graham, Graham Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am returning to emacs after a brief try out some time ago. As Org-mode is now part of the distribution I'm no longer too sure how to update it. Before I had a folder for Org-mode that my .emacs file pointed to and I just copied all the new files into that folder. Welcome back to Emacs :) Unless you're using Emacs CVS, it's likely that you want to download the whole Org package every now and then, and make sure you are using org.el that comes with it. To get the latest Org distribution, I am using Pete's script (attached). Please have a look at it; you certainly want to modify variables to make it work in your environment. #!/bin/sh # script to automate pullingthe latest org from Carsten's site # PJP [EMAIL PROTECTED] # $Revision: 1.1 $ # $Log: update-org.sh,v $ # Revision 1.1 2007/04/26 05:53:54 pete # Initial revision # directory where the org directory is located DIR=$HOME/elisp/testing ORGDIR=$DIR/org TMP=/tmp TMPTAR=$TMP/org.tar.gz # This is where I keep my copy of CVS emacs. EMACSBIN=/usr/local/bin/emacs # you should not need to edit anything else below here # go to the tmp dir cd $TMP # make sure we have the lisp dir mkdir -p $DIR # get the tar file # wget http://staff.science.uva.nl/~dominik/Tools/org/org.tar.gz wget http://orgmode.org/org.tar.gz # ORGDIR is a symbolic link. We get rid of it rm $ORGDIR # cd to the lisp directory cd $DIR # unpack the tar file tar xzvf $TMPTAR # what is the new directory name? ORGVER=`tar tvf $TMPTAR | head -1 | sed 's/ */ /g' | cut -d' ' -f6` # remake the link... ln -s $ORGVER org # make ... cd $ORGDIR mv Makefile Makefile.orig sed s:EMACS=emacs:EMACS=$EMACSBIN: Makefile.orig Makefile make To load the most recent org.el, always put it in the same location and add this location to your load-path in ~/.emacs: (add-to-list 'load-path ~/elisp/testing/org/) Then doing a simple (require 'org-install) somewhere after this should do the trick. It will override any org.el that you might already have in your .../emacs/lisp/ directory. HTH, -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Updating OrgMode
Bastien, Thanks but that is roughly what I think I was doing and didn't work. I have a directory called emacsaddins with a subdirectory called Orgmode. Together with lines in .emacs to load and require orgmode from that directory. In the past I have just overwritten the contents of the Orgmode directory with the latest release and that has then been the version then loaded in Emacs. On this occasion I over wrote the contents of the orgmode directory with 5.13i, but Emacs still loaded 4.67. hence my question about updating because what I was doing in the past didn't work. Which I assumed was because OrgMode was part of Emacs now. Having said that the lines in my .emac is slightly different. (add-to-list 'load-path C:\\Program Files\\EmacAddIns\\org-mode) (require 'org) but this seemed to work in the past I'm afraid I don't know how to use the script you have attached :-( Sorry I'm being so dim Graham On 14/11/2007, Bastien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Graham, Graham Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am returning to emacs after a brief try out some time ago. As Org-mode is now part of the distribution I'm no longer too sure how to update it. Before I had a folder for Org-mode that my .emacs file pointed to and I just copied all the new files into that folder. Welcome back to Emacs :) Unless you're using Emacs CVS, it's likely that you want to download the whole Org package every now and then, and make sure you are using org.el that comes with it. To get the latest Org distribution, I am using Pete's script (attached). Please have a look at it; you certainly want to modify variables to make it work in your environment. To load the most recent org.el, always put it in the same location and add this location to your load-path in ~/.emacs: (add-to-list 'load-path ~/elisp/testing/org/) Then doing a simple (require 'org-install) somewhere after this should do the trick. It will override any org.el that you might already have in your .../emacs/lisp/ directory. HTH, -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Updating OrgMode
Graham Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Having said that the lines in my .emac is slightly different. (Add-to-list 'load-path C:\\Program Files\\EmacAddIns\\org-mode) ^ I guess this should come in lower-case, no? (Very unlikely the erro comes from this though, this should return an error...) I'm afraid I don't know how to use the script you have attached :-( Maybe Windows people in this list have other ways of automating the process of updating their Org installation -- and will share on the list... -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: undo in org.el
Hi Tassilo On 11/14/07, Tassilo Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wes Nakamura [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Wes, On XEmacs I like being able to have a default variable width font in the org-mode buffer but still have the calendar, etc, come up in a monospace font in a different buffer in the same frame. I haven't been able to do this in Emacs since I believe fonts are not buffer local but applied to a frame. That's wrong. You can mix as many proportional and variable width faces in one buffer as you whish. For example you could use big variable width fonts for org headlines and small proportional fonts for the normal content. Simply set point on the face you want to change and hit `M-x customize-face RET'. No. I think you are missing Wes' point. Of course you can set different fonts for different faces, but that does not help with the particular issue that Wes mentions. The calendar uses the default face, as does org-mode for normal text. Therefore, you can't change one without screwing up the other. If XEmacs allows the font associated with a particular face to be buffer-local, then that is a big improvement. A work-around for GNU Emacs would be for org to use define an org-default face that inherits from default but can be changed independently. Is this feasible, Carsten? I would appreciate that feature too. The main reason I don't use XEmacs any more is that there is no version for OS X that is as nice as Aquamacs... Cheers Will (XEmacs user 1993-2005, GNU Emacs user 1990-1993, 2005-present) -- Dr William Henney, Centro de Radioastronomía y Astrofísica, Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México, Campus Morelia ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Updating OrgMode
William Case [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: To load the most recent org.el, always put it in the same location and add this location to your load-path in ~/.emacs: (add-to-list 'load-path ~/elisp/testing/org/) Then doing a simple (require 'org-install) somewhere after this should do the trick. It will override any org.el that you might already have in your .../emacs/lisp/ directory. Does this also work on a Linux box (Fedora7 == Fc8)? Sure it does! Emacs is Emacs. -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Updating OrgMode
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:07:35 +, Bastien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Graham Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Having said that the lines in my .emac is slightly different. (Add-to-list 'load-path C:\\Program Files\\EmacAddIns\\org-mode) ^ I guess this should come in lower-case, no? (Very unlikely the erro comes from this though, this should return an error...) I'm afraid I don't know how to use the script you have attached :-( Maybe Windows people in this list have other ways of automating the process of updating their Org installation -- and will share on the list... Graham, if you have 4NT you can use the following batch file to do the installation. Obviously you should change the directories at the top of the file to suit your setup. Just download the latest org-xxx.zip and then do org_update xxx and emacs will use the latest org-mode. I have (setq load-path (cons ~/.emacs.d/elisp load-path)) in my .emacs so that emacs knows to look there for addon packages. I also have an environment variable INFOPATH set to include ~/.elisp.d/info before the standard emacs info directory, so that info in emacs picks up the documentation for the latest version. HTH, Tony Batch file org_update.btm --- @ECHO OFF REM Update the Emacs org-mode automatically REM Usage: org_update xxx REM to update to version xxx SETLOCAL SET ORGFILES=org-%1 SET EMACS=C:\emacs\bin\emacs.exe SET EMACS_OPTS=--batch -q -f batch-byte-compile SET ELISPDIR=D:\.emacs.d\elisp SET INFODIR=D:\.emacs.d\info SET DOWNLOADDIR=D:\Downloads\Editors\Emacs\Elisp SET ORGZIPFILE=%ORGFILES.zip REM Unpack the downloaded file in a temp directory CDD %DOWNLOADDIR unzip -d %TEMP\ -o %ORGZIPFILE CDD %TEMP\%ORGFILES REM Compile the Elisp sources FOR %f in (org*.el) %EMACS %EMACS_OPTS %f REM Copy parts of the archive to where Emacs can find them COPY org*.el org*.elc %ELISPDIR\ COPY org %INFODIR\ COPY org.pdf orgcard.pdf %DOWNLOADDIR\ REM Cleanup temp files CDD %TEMP\ DEL %ORGFILES\*.* /s /x /y ENDLOCAL ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Updating OrgMode
Tony, Thanks I don't 4NT, indeed had never heard of it until now, but its all useful to know and building my knowledge. Graham On 14/11/2007, Tony Mc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:07:35 +, Bastien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Graham Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Having said that the lines in my .emac is slightly different. (Add-to-list 'load-path C:\\Program Files\\EmacAddIns\\org-mode) ^ I guess this should come in lower-case, no? (Very unlikely the erro comes from this though, this should return an error...) I'm afraid I don't know how to use the script you have attached :-( Maybe Windows people in this list have other ways of automating the process of updating their Org installation -- and will share on the list... Graham, if you have 4NT you can use the following batch file to do the installation. Obviously you should change the directories at the top of the file to suit your setup. Just download the latest org-xxx.zip and then do org_update xxx and emacs will use the latest org-mode. I have (setq load-path (cons ~/.emacs.d/elisp load-path)) in my .emacs so that emacs knows to look there for addon packages. I also have an environment variable INFOPATH set to include ~/.elisp.d/info before the standard emacs info directory, so that info in emacs picks up the documentation for the latest version. HTH, Tony Batch file org_update.btm --- @ECHO OFF REM Update the Emacs org-mode automatically REM Usage: org_update xxx REM to update to version xxx SETLOCAL SET ORGFILES=org-%1 SET EMACS=C:\emacs\bin\emacs.exe SET EMACS_OPTS=--batch -q -f batch-byte-compile SET ELISPDIR=D:\.emacs.d\elisp SET INFODIR=D:\.emacs.d\info SET DOWNLOADDIR=D:\Downloads\Editors\Emacs\Elisp SET ORGZIPFILE=%ORGFILES.zip REM Unpack the downloaded file in a temp directory CDD %DOWNLOADDIR unzip -d %TEMP\ -o %ORGZIPFILE CDD %TEMP\%ORGFILES REM Compile the Elisp sources FOR %f in (org*.el) %EMACS %EMACS_OPTS %f REM Copy parts of the archive to where Emacs can find them COPY org*.el org*.elc %ELISPDIR\ COPY org %INFODIR\ COPY org.pdf orgcard.pdf %DOWNLOADDIR\ REM Cleanup temp files CDD %TEMP\ DEL %ORGFILES\*.* /s /x /y ENDLOCAL ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: undo in org.el
William Henney [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi William, On XEmacs I like being able to have a default variable width font in the org-mode buffer but still have the calendar, etc, come up in a monospace font in a different buffer in the same frame. I haven't been able to do this in Emacs since I believe fonts are not buffer local but applied to a frame. That's wrong. You can mix as many proportional and variable width faces in one buffer as you whish. For example you could use big variable width fonts for org headlines and small proportional fonts for the normal content. Simply set point on the face you want to change and hit `M-x customize-face RET'. No. I think you are missing Wes' point. Of course you can set different fonts for different faces, but that does not help with the particular issue that Wes mentions. The calendar uses the default face, as does org-mode for normal text. Therefore, you can't change one without screwing up the other. If XEmacs allows the font associated with a particular face to be buffer-local, then that is a big improvement. And how does XEmacs know what face a new buffer should use? By its major mode? Bye, Tassilo ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: undo in org.el
On 11/14/07, Tassilo Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: William Henney [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If XEmacs allows the font associated with a particular face to be buffer-local, then that is a big improvement. And how does XEmacs know what face a new buffer should use? By its major mode? I really have no idea, but I'm guessing it works the same as any other buffer-local variable. That is, there is a global default value that is used for any buffer that has not explicitly set the variable locally. Cheers Will -- Dr William Henney, Centro de Radioastronomía y Astrofísica, Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México, Campus Morelia ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Survey of org-mode users
I am running a short survey on org-mode with Carsten's approval to help understand the environments in which org-mode is used and the applications. Please give your feedback on org-mode by completing this short 10 question survey http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=CetuI2wsPz_2fsg6FAzvubnA_3d_3d I am using the free version of survey monkey, so I am restricted to 10 questions and 100 responses, so please respond soon! Thank you, Charles ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Survey of org-mode users (correction on link)
Please give your feedback on org-mode by completing this short 10 question survey http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=CetuI2wsPz_2fsg6FAzvubnA_3d_3d ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
