Re: [O] org-review-schedule
On 2014-04-25 10:02, Nicolas Goaziou n.goaz...@gmail.com writes: Alan Schmitt alan.schm...@polytechnique.org writes: I guess I should have asked: who decides what goes in contrib? The Org maintainer. Another option is to turn it into an ELPA package. I need to learn how to do this. In the meantime, I've put the code on github: https://github.com/brabalan/org-review Alan
Re: [O] org-review-schedule
On 2014-04-26 14:25, Nicolas Goaziou n.goaz...@gmail.com writes: Thorsten Jolitz tjol...@gmail.com writes: the answer is in the quote already: ,- | Since return value matters, I suggest to use ... `- Exactly. I use `when' if side-effects are involved or if the code is too long and doesn't fit nicely in a `and' branch. Of course, this is nitpicking. There's nothing wrong with `when' variant. I think I get it now. Thanks a lot. Alan
[O] Update from exported agendas?
Hi, I export my agenda custom views to plain text, so I can check things off as I go (without access to Emacs). I use `(org-agenda-prefix-format [ ] )` so I can easily add an X with my text editor on my phone. Is there any way to have this update the todo items that the exported agenda file was created from? (Say, changing NEXT state to DONE.) Cheers, Chris
Re: [O] Update from exported agendas?
Chris Poole li...@chrispoole.com writes: Hi, I export my agenda custom views to plain text, so I can check things off as I go (without access to Emacs). I use `(org-agenda-prefix-format [ ] )` so I can easily add an X with my text editor on my phone. Is there any way to have this update the todo items that the exported agenda file was created from? (Say, changing NEXT state to DONE.) I don't think this is possible. Without having looked at org-agenda.el I guess that the connection between agenda entries and items in .org files is realised with Emacs Lisp markers (enabling cmds like `org-agenda-show' in agenda mode). These markers are lost when you simply copy the agenda contents to a plain text file, so there is no connection anymore with the Org files. Maybe the elisp markers could be replaced by unique IDs for each entry or links that allow the look-up of the associated entries, and you are lucky and somebody aready figured out how to do this? -- cheers, Thorsten
[O] org-reftex package and biblatex support for org-bibtex
Dear All, I am in the process of writing a new package for inserting citations into org buffers using RefTeX. The current org-reftex command works alright, but it is not quite as flexible as I would like it to be. I wanted to add an option to add citations in footnotes. I also wanted to make it so that, when a bibtex library is not set in the file, it uses the one set by RefTeX. Additionally, I thought that it would be useful to have the package provide two sets of customizable RefTeX cite commands for use in org mode: one with traditional bibtex/natbib commands and one with biblatex commands. This would give users a fairly functional set of defaults to choose from, and the option to further customize them. It would also some minor use problems. Currently, org will export most bibtex and biblatex cite commands correctly, even if they are not explicitly marked as latex, but it will not export biblatex multicite commands, because it does not recognize them as latex. Accordingly it will be useful to have org-reftex mark biblatex multicite commands as latex, but it will generally be unnecessary for it to mark other citations as such. Let me know if you think such a package would be useful, and let me know what cite commands you think I should include. (I thought the default set should be somewhat basic, but useful for most common use case scenarios.) I was also thinking of adding out of the box biblatex support for org-bibtex. I use org-bibtex for my bibtex files and reading lists. It gives me a unified way to organize my bibtex entries and keep track of what sources I need to read or incorporate into specific projects. Currently, customizing it to deal with biblatex fields is a bit of a hassle, so I thought I might try to add an option that makes this process easier. Let me know if anyone else might be interested in this, or has any objections. Also let me know if you have any ideas about what entry types and fields I should include. Again I wanted to make it as useful and easily customizable as possible, without making it too bulky. All best, Leonard
Re: [O] State of the art in citations
Hi Julian et al., I am not sure if this helps, but I am in the process of writing a new package for inserting citations into org buffers using RefTeX. This solution would make citation insertion very convenient, but it would not be quite as easy to read as Clément's solution, and it would only work for latex export. (It might work with html export if you used bibtex to html, but I do not have enough experience with bibtex to html to know.) On the other hand, it will work with multicite commands, whereas Clement's does not look like it will. I was also thinking of adding out of the box biblatex support for org-bibtex (see my previous post). Let me know if you might be interested in either of these, as I will try to work on them this week. All best, Leonard
Re: [O] Altering effect of deadline on priority calculation
Actually, I have no complaints about the built-in sorting functions themselves. It's the priority calculation. I guess priority-down would show that problem most clearly. I have a lot of tasks, so I've altered the priority calculation to produce a larger number for each item, like this: (defun org-get-priority (s) Find priority cookie and return priority. (save-match-data (if (functionp org-get-priority-function) (funcall org-get-priority-function) (if (not (string-match org-priority-regexp s)) (* org-custom-sorting-intensity (- org-lowest-priority org-default-priority)) (* org-custom-sorting-intensity (- org-lowest-priority (string-to-char (match-string 2 s custom-sorting-intensity is usually around 4500, so I get large numbers and therefore lots of gradations. But this is just takes care of the priority-cookie part of the calculation. My issue is that incrementing the calculated priority by 1 for each day past due is not dramatic enough when using these large numbers. I'd like it to be 100 instead. Or even, just to get crazy, 100 for each day past deadline and 50 for each day past scheduled due date! I know that I should be doing this as a user-defined-function for org-agenda-sorting-strategy, but I don't understand how. The documentation is clear, I'm just not very good with lisp. So I've copied the function from org.el into my .org file and tweaked it a little. That's why I'm looking for the part of org.el or whichever file that increases calculated priority according to number of days past deadline. Thanks, Inanna On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Bastien b...@gnu.org wrote: Hi Inanna, peregrinehill peregrineh...@gmail.com writes: I would like to make deadlines have a larger impact on priority calculation than scheduled date, but I can't figure out how to extract how many days before or past deadline from an agenda entry. I would also like to extract how many days overdue a task is from its scheduled date. Is there a function that gives me this information easily? Alternatively, can anybody point me to where priority is increased by 1 for each day late? I'm not sure where do you want to get this information from: from an agenda view? from a normal buffer? What value of `org-agenda-sorting-strategy' comes closest to what you are trying to achieve? Let us know, -- Bastien
Re: [O] Altering effect of deadline on priority calculation
Sorry, I misspoke. What I meant to say was that I altered org-get-priority to keep priority cookies more significant than due dates. On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 9:24 AM, peregrinehill peregrineh...@gmail.comwrote: Actually, I have no complaints about the built-in sorting functions themselves. It's the priority calculation. I guess priority-down would show that problem most clearly. I have a lot of tasks, so I've altered the priority calculation to produce a larger number for each item, like this: (defun org-get-priority (s) Find priority cookie and return priority. (save-match-data (if (functionp org-get-priority-function) (funcall org-get-priority-function) (if (not (string-match org-priority-regexp s)) (* org-custom-sorting-intensity (- org-lowest-priority org-default-priority)) (* org-custom-sorting-intensity (- org-lowest-priority (string-to-char (match-string 2 s custom-sorting-intensity is usually around 4500, so I get large numbers and therefore lots of gradations. But this is just takes care of the priority-cookie part of the calculation. My issue is that incrementing the calculated priority by 1 for each day past due is not dramatic enough when using these large numbers. I'd like it to be 100 instead. Or even, just to get crazy, 100 for each day past deadline and 50 for each day past scheduled due date! I know that I should be doing this as a user-defined-function for org-agenda-sorting-strategy, but I don't understand how. The documentation is clear, I'm just not very good with lisp. So I've copied the function from org.el into my .org file and tweaked it a little. That's why I'm looking for the part of org.el or whichever file that increases calculated priority according to number of days past deadline. Thanks, Inanna On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Bastien b...@gnu.org wrote: Hi Inanna, peregrinehill peregrineh...@gmail.com writes: I would like to make deadlines have a larger impact on priority calculation than scheduled date, but I can't figure out how to extract how many days before or past deadline from an agenda entry. I would also like to extract how many days overdue a task is from its scheduled date. Is there a function that gives me this information easily? Alternatively, can anybody point me to where priority is increased by 1 for each day late? I'm not sure where do you want to get this information from: from an agenda view? from a normal buffer? What value of `org-agenda-sorting-strategy' comes closest to what you are trying to achieve? Let us know, -- Bastien
Re: [O] Update from exported agendas?
The only way I can think of doing it is, for each completed task out of the exported file, pull up the agenda view (that corresponds to that file), find that item, and mark it as DONE. Perhaps have this action on the opening of any file in the org-agenda-files list. I was just hoping it might have already been done so I don't have to start from scratch, seems like a logical thing --- presumably people just manually open up the agenda view for what they've just done away from the laptop, and mark things done, again... (Incidentally, I actually wrote this functionality years ago (and it'd also switch the next TODO task to NEXT), in a GTD library I made for myself, but recently decided to switch to org mode, as it has a ton of advantages to my simple system. I'm now seeing if I can build a GTD layer on top of org mode, to provide a kind of automatic setup for those new to org-mode, who want to use it with the GTD methodology.) On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Thorsten Jolitz tjol...@gmail.com wrote: Chris Poole li...@chrispoole.com writes: Hi, I export my agenda custom views to plain text, so I can check things off as I go (without access to Emacs). I use `(org-agenda-prefix-format [ ] )` so I can easily add an X with my text editor on my phone. Is there any way to have this update the todo items that the exported agenda file was created from? (Say, changing NEXT state to DONE.) I don't think this is possible. Without having looked at org-agenda.el I guess that the connection between agenda entries and items in .org files is realised with Emacs Lisp markers (enabling cmds like `org-agenda-show' in agenda mode). These markers are lost when you simply copy the agenda contents to a plain text file, so there is no connection anymore with the Org files. Maybe the elisp markers could be replaced by unique IDs for each entry or links that allow the look-up of the associated entries, and you are lucky and somebody aready figured out how to do this? -- cheers, Thorsten
Re: [O] Bug: Setting system command org-file-apps does not allow other settings to refer to it [8.2.5h (release_8.2.5h-620-g7fd183 @ /home/rrt/.emacs.d/el-get/package/elpa/org-20140210/)]
On 23 April 2014 16:04, Bastien b...@gnu.org wrote: Okay, see those two bits of `org-file-apps' docstring: `auto-mode'Matches files that are matched by any entry in `auto-mode-alist', so all files Emacs knows how to handle. Using this with command `emacs' will open most files in Emacs. Beware that this will also open html files inside Emacs, unless you add (html . default) to the list as well. So (auto-mode . emacs) says to open .pdf files in emacs... but (\\.pdf\\' . default) says to open .pdf files using the default application: `default' Use the default application for this file type, which is the association for t in the list Since you have (t . xdg-open %s), xdg-open is used. Yep, it's all a bit tricky... Thanks for explaining more. The reason I was (and remain!) still confused is that you said earlier that because auto-mode comes first, it is not overridden by changing the default value later. So the implication is that changing the default value does not override other values, but changing the system value does. Am I correct? -- http://rrt.sc3d.org
Re: [O] Update from exported agendas?
Chris Poole li...@chrispoole.com writes: The only way I can think of doing it is, for each completed task out of the exported file, pull up the agenda view (that corresponds to that file), find that item, and mark it as DONE. Perhaps have this action on the opening of any file in the org-agenda-files list. I was just hoping it might have already been done so I don't have to start from scratch, seems like a logical thing --- presumably people just manually open up the agenda view for what they've just done away from the laptop, and mark things done, again... I think people use dropbox or some git based setting to locally modify agenda entries while being offline and synchronize later on. But they use Org-mode to make the local changes, they don't do them outside of Org-mode (except where exporters/conversion-tools between Org and other calendar/planning apps exist). To achieve what you want you should probably use Org-mobile or install Emacs/Org-mode on all your devices and then sync via dropbox or git or so. On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Thorsten Jolitz tjol...@gmail.com wrote: Chris Poole li...@chrispoole.com writes: Hi, I export my agenda custom views to plain text, so I can check things off as I go (without access to Emacs). I use `(org-agenda-prefix-format [ ] )` so I can easily add an X with my text editor on my phone. Is there any way to have this update the todo items that the exported agenda file was created from? (Say, changing NEXT state to DONE.) I don't think this is possible. Without having looked at org-agenda.el I guess that the connection between agenda entries and items in .org files is realised with Emacs Lisp markers (enabling cmds like `org-agenda-show' in agenda mode). These markers are lost when you simply copy the agenda contents to a plain text file, so there is no connection anymore with the Org files. Maybe the elisp markers could be replaced by unique IDs for each entry or links that allow the look-up of the associated entries, and you are lucky and somebody aready figured out how to do this? -- cheers, Thorsten -- cheers, Thorsten
Re: [O] customizing org-beamer--format-frame
Thanks so much! I was trying to get a bit more flexibility with that
separate slide (e.g., have the title in the centre of the page and no toc).
So I took inspiration from your great solution and defined a latex macro
#+begin_src latex
\newcommand{\singleslide}[1]{{%
\usebeamerfont{title}
\begin{frame}[plain,c]
\begin{center}
\begin{minipage}[h]{.75\textwidth}
\centering
\textcolor{title}{\Large#1}
\end{minipage}
\end{center}
\end{frame}
}}
#+end_src
and a latex class
#+begin_src emacs-lisp
(add-to-list 'org-latex-classes
'(my-org-beamer
\\documentclass{beamer}
(\\singleside{%s} . \\singleslide{%s})
#+end_src
which did the job.
Best,
Seb
On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 9:05 AM, Eric S Fraga e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk wrote:
On Friday, 25 Apr 2014 at 08:24, Seb Frank wrote:
Hi there,
I have customized org-beamer--format-frame to change the way headlines
are
treated (as I want a separate slide with only the headline in the center
and plain frames not showing headlines after that). The way I currently
do
this is by redefining the function itself (using defun
org-beamer--format-frame). This works, but is there any way to make this
more modular, i.e. tell org-mode somewhere to use a different function
(e.g., my-org-beamer--format-frame) to format a frame, so that it's easy
to
switch back and forth between different ones, as well as to revert to the
default?
Thanks,
Seb
As you haven't explained why you want this, it's difficult to understand
the actual use case. So, guessing at your intent, I wonder whether you
have thought about making use of section headings as well as frame
headings to accomplish what you want?
Assuming you are using org v8.x and not something older, if you set
option H:2, second level headings define frames and top level headings
define sections. You can then have section headings appear as a
separate slide using code such as this:
#+begin_src org
,#+latex_header:
\AtBeginSection[]{\begin{frame}beamer\frametitle{Topic}\tableofcontents[currentsection]\end{frame}}
#+end_src
In this case, any time a section heading is encountered (i.e. top level
org heading), you'll get a slide with a table of contents with that
heading emphasised. You can obviously do something different which more
closely matches what you want.
If you don't want individual frames to have headings, simply don't put
any text in the headline for that frame.
This way, you do not need to manipulate how beamer displays frames. An
example set of slides with two sections and two out of four slides
having no headline would look like this:
#+begin_src org
,#+options: H:2
,#+latex_header:
\AtBeginSection[]{\begin{frame}beamer\frametitle{Topic}\tableofcontents[currentsection]\end{frame}}
,* Introduction
,** First slide
some text on the first slide
,**
some text on the second slide which has no heading
,* Results
,**
some third slide text, also on a slide with no heading
,** conclusions
This was a great talk.
#+end_src
HTH,
eric
--
: Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 24.4.50.2, Org
release_8.2.5h-1027-g4c0a29
Re: [O] State of the art in citations
Hi Leonard,
I am in the process of writing a new package for inserting
citations into org buffers using RefTeX.
I'd be interested to know what you have in mind. I use something
of the sort, by customising `reftex-cite-format`, e.g:
(setq reftex-cite-format
'((?\C-m . \\cite[]{%l})
(?b . [[ref:%l][%A (%y)]])))
This makes inserting custom links (ref) easier with the usual
`reftex-citation` bound to C-c [.
On the other hand, it will work with multicite commands,
whereas Clement's does not look like it will.
It does not, and that's a big limitation. That being said, I don't
know how to go about mixing multiple citations and links to the
bib file. This is definitely something I care about, being able
to quickly jump from the text to the bibliographic entry, PDF
file, or whatever source I am using to write is one of the main
reasons I use org instead of plain LaTeX.
Bye,
Clément
Re: [O] State of the art in citations
Hi Clément and Others,
On 2014-04-27 at 10:14, Clément B. wrote:
(setq reftex-cite-format
'((?\C-m . \\cite[]{%l})
(?b . [[ref:%l][%A (%y)]])))
I've been using reftex in Org - LaTeX for a while and have my Org text
sprinkled with \cite{foo:}. I just saw the customized
reftex-cite-format from Clément (above). It looks much nicer in the
text, but raises two questions:
1) Can the link just use lastname? It looks like %A is the only way to
access author names, and does full names, so perhaps not without writing
some custom function? And more importantly,
2) When I export this to LaTeX, it is not treated as a proper LaTeX
citation. The text is just the %A (%y) part. Is there some way to
export so that the ref:%l turns into a \cite{%l}?
Thanks,
-k.
Re: [O] State of the art in citations
Hi Ken,
When I export this to LaTeX, it is not treated as a proper
LaTeX citation. The text is just the %A (%y) part. Is there
some way to export so that the ref:%l turns into a \cite{%l}?
The ref is a custom link type, you can define those in org with
`org-add-link-type`, and they allow control over the export
behaviour. See the previous posts in this thread for an example.
Bye,
Clément
Re: [O] State of the art in citations
On 2014-04-27 at 10:53, Clément B. wrote:
Hi Ken,
When I export this to LaTeX, it is not treated as a proper LaTeX
citation. The text is just the %A (%y) part. Is there some way to
export so that the ref:%l turns into a \cite{%l}?
The ref is a custom link type, you can define those in org with
`org-add-link-type`, and they allow control over the export
behaviour. See the previous posts in this thread for an example.
Ah! Got it. This is really nice. Thank you.
I find the best way to support ODT is simply add something like this:
((eq format 'odt)
(format (%s) desc))
This doesn't create a bibliography section, but that section is awkward
to export to anyway. It requires the 3rd party Org hack that isn't
officially supported, java, jabref, is awfully slow (~2
seconds/reference), etc. I now put the references inline as above, and
then manually add the references by exporting to PDF and copying/paste
that reference section.
Not great, but less of a hack than ODT-supported references, and working
with ODT/Word is a hack anyway.
Still looking into lastname (Year) format...
-k.
Re: [O] State of the art in citations
Clément B. clem...@inventati.org writes:
Hi Leonard,
I am in the process of writing a new package for inserting
citations into org buffers using RefTeX.
I'd be interested to know what you have in mind. I use something
of the sort, by customising `reftex-cite-format`, e.g:
(setq reftex-cite-format
'((?\C-m . \\cite[]{%l})
(?b . [[ref:%l][%A (%y)]])))
This makes inserting custom links (ref) easier with the usual
`reftex-citation` bound to C-c [.
On the other hand, it will work with multicite commands,
whereas Clement's does not look like it will.
It does not, and that's a big limitation. That being said, I don't
know how to go about mixing multiple citations and links to the
bib file. This is definitely something I care about, being able
to quickly jump from the text to the bibliographic entry, PDF
file, or whatever source I am using to write is one of the main
reasons I use org instead of plain LaTeX.
One approach for muliticites is to drop a placeholder and then replace
it with an export filter. I've been using these two for a while and
they seem to work fine.
** Filters for multicites
*** Filter for parencites
Add the placeholder with alt-p
#+name: tsd-parencites
#+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp
(defun tsd-latex-filter-parencites (text backend info)
Replace parencites placeholders in Beamer/LaTeX export.
(when (memq backend '(beamer latex))
(replace-regexp-in-string π \\parencites text nil t)))
(add-to-list 'org-export-filter-plain-text-functions
'tsd-latex-filter-parencites)
#+END_SRC
*** Filter for textcites
Add the placeholder with alt-t
#+name: tsd-textcites
#+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp
(defun tsd-latex-filter-textcites (text backend info)
Replace textcites placeholders in Beamer/LaTeX export.
(when (memq backend '(beamer latex))
(replace-regexp-in-string † \\textcites text nil t)))
(add-to-list 'org-export-filter-plain-text-functions
'tsd-latex-filter-textcites)
#+END_SRC
It looks like this in the text:
A recent replication experiment that used stone tools in
the manufacture of an outrigger canoe identified six functional types
of stone adze that correspond generally with the six types established
by Duff
π[[multicite:turner00:_funct_desig_distr_new_zealan_adzes][;;turner
diss]] [[multicite:turner05:_funct_and_techn_explan_for][;;turner
nzja]].
My link syntax is a bit different, but the same basic idea:
(org-add-link-type
multicite 'ebib-open-org-link
(lambda (path desc format)
(cond
((eq format 'latex)
(if (not desc) (format {%s} path)
(format [%s][%s]{%s}
(cadr (split-string desc ;))
(car (split-string desc ;)) path))
hth,
Tom
--
Thomas S. Dye
http://www.tsdye.com
Re: [O] State of the art in citations
I find the best way to support ODT is simply add something like this:
((eq format 'odt)
(format (%s) desc))
This doesn't create a bibliography section, but that section is awkward
to export to anyway. It requires the 3rd party Org hack that isn't
officially supported, java, jabref, is awfully slow (~2
seconds/reference), etc. I now put the references inline as above, and
then manually add the references by exporting to PDF and copying/paste
that reference section.
Not great, but less of a hack than ODT-supported references, and working
with ODT/Word is a hack anyway.
I came to a similar conclusion for html export, it is very hard
to match bibtex/biblatex to produce a proper bibliography, so one
might as well use it. At one point, the thought of writing a
custom citation style that would output html code crossed my mind
(I think biblatex would allow that), but I just don't use html
export enough. Although if this is possible, it could work with
xml for odt as well.
Still looking into lastname (Year) format...
I hadn't noticed that before, but now that you mention it, I
think this is related to the way you format your bib file.
For example %A (%y) with:
1. name = {Darwin, Charles}
year = {1859}
will yield Darwin (1859)
2. name = {Charles Darwin}
year = {1859}
will yield Charles Darwin (1859)
Not very consistent. This might be something to take to the
AUCTeX guys.
Re: [O] State of the art in citations
On 2014-04-27 at 12:05, Clément B. wrote:
Still looking into lastname (Year) format...
I hadn't noticed that before, but now that you mention it, I
think this is related to the way you format your bib file.
For example %A (%y) with:
1. name = {Darwin, Charles}
year = {1859}
will yield Darwin (1859)
2. name = {Charles Darwin}
year = {1859}
will yield Charles Darwin (1859)
Not very consistent. This might be something to take to the AUCTeX
guys.
I've asked about this here:
https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/173804/best-practices-for-bibtex-author-field
Maybe bibtool or some other tool can reformat my BibTeX
file to Last, First.
-k.
Re: [O] State of the art in citations
On 2014-04-27 at 12:01, Thomas S. Dye wrote:
Clément B. clem...@inventati.org writes:
This makes inserting custom links (ref) easier with the usual
`reftex-citation` bound to C-c [.
On the other hand, it will work with multicite commands,
whereas Clement's does not look like it will.
It does not, and that's a big limitation.
It appears to work for multicite for me. Or at least well enough. If I
select multiple entries, I get this:
[[ref:Author1:,Author2:,Author3:][()]]
I can then easily insert the text I want into the (). It exports
properly to LaTeX as \cite{Author1:,Author2:,Author3:}.
Maybe most people multi-cite more than me, but I think it is only a bit
of extra work to add what I want in the () and then it exports properly
to LaTeX and, using the references-via-LaTeX, to ODT/HTML too!
-k.
Re: [O] customizing org-beamer--format-frame
On Sunday, 27 Apr 2014 at 10:14, Seb Frank wrote: Thanks so much! I was trying to get a bit more flexibility with that separate slide (e.g., have the title in the centre of the page and no toc). So I took inspiration from your great solution and defined a latex macro Interesting solution! Thanks for this. I can see its uses. For completeness, I assume you are using the H:2 option? -- : Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 24.4.50.2, Org release_8.2.5h-1027-g4c0a29
Re: [O] image attributes in ODT export for wrapped text possible?
On Saturday, 26 Apr 2014 at 15:04, Christian Moe wrote: Hello, Yes, it's possible, though if you're only going to wrap a single image in the final output, it's very likely easier to just open the document in LibreOffice, right-click the image and take it from there. Which is what I did in the end as I needed to get the document out fairly quickly. Anyway, here's one way to do it by creating a custom style. (If it's possible to pass wrap settings directly, I don't know how.) [...] Let me know if this works for you. (If not, though, I may not be able to help -- I'll be offline for a few days.) Thanks for this. I will play with this when I get a chance (when I get some feedback on the document I sent out Friday). What you suggest makes perfect sense but, if I understand correctly, this will make all figures have the wrapped style? It is not possible to specify an option in the org file on a per figure basis? Thanks again, eric -- : Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 24.4.50.2, Org release_8.2.5h-1027-g4c0a29
Re: [O] State of the art in citations
It appears to work for multicite for me. Or at least well enough. If I
select multiple entries, I get this:
[[ref:Author1:,Author2:,Author3:][()]]
I can then easily insert the text I want into the (). It exports
properly to LaTeX as \cite{Author1:,Author2:,Author3:}.
Maybe most people multi-cite more than me, but I think it is only a bit
of extra work to add what I want in the () and then it exports properly
to LaTeX and, using the references-via-LaTeX, to ODT/HTML too!
-k.
The problem is that you can't link to a bibtex entry,
[[ref:Author1:,Author2:]] is not picked up by org search
function of `org-open-file`. And even if it was, it couldn't link
to several entries at once. So to preserve the ability to jump
quickly to a reference, I quite like the export filter approach,
which I was unaware of (thank you Thomas! ).
Clément
Re: [O] State of the art in citations
It seems there are a lot of variants of citation handling out there! I will
add to the list my own variants here:
https://github.com/jkitchin/jmax/blob/master/jorg-bib.el. My citation needs
are simple, I basically only use \cite{key1,key2} in LaTeX. And I only use
bibtex, because I have not gotten around to anything else, bibtex works
fine if your needs are simple (like mine).
There is certainly duplication of some things, but the following are
features in mine that I am not aware of anywhere else.
1. Integration with reftex. You type C-c ] and select keys from reftex and
insert a cite link. If you type it again on a citation, the new entries are
appended to the end. This current conversation inspired me to implement
this!
2. Clickable cite links. If you have a citation link like
cite:key1,key2,key3 you can click on key1 and open the bibliography file to
key1, and you can click on key2 and have it open at key 2. This link would
export in latex as \cite{key1,key2,key3}. Other cite formats, e.g. citep,
citep*, etc... are defined too, but are relatively untested. You can also
use completion to enter a bibtex key.
3. citation tooltips. If clicking is too disruptive, you can run a command
and get a tooltip of the citation under point. If clicking is too tiring,
you can turn on an idle timer that shows a tooltip if the cursor is on a
citation.
4. clickable label links. clicking checks the buffer for another label by
the same name.
5. Clickable ref links. Clicking on the ref:label takes you to the label,
and provides C-c to get back to that point. You can also use completion
to get a list of labels in the buffer to make a ref to.
6. A bibliographystyle and bibliography link. The bibliography link opens
the bibtex file that was clicked on.
7. Code to make a clickable list of figures and tables.
8. Code to extract the bibtex entries cited in an org-file to a text block
at the end of the org-file
9. variables to point to a notes file and pdf directory, and functions to
jump to your notes and the pdf file from a bibtex entry.
10. a function to build a complete pdf bibliography from your bibtex file.
This is handy for checking the entries are spelled correctly, etc...
11. A little function and python script to upload a bibtex entry to
citeulike.
I have not tried to do much with anything but LaTeX, so these links are not
likely to be that good for html or odt I suspect.
Anyway, there are some very interesting ideas in this code, and I am using
it on a pretty regular basis. Maybe some of you would also find them
interesting/helpful. I look forward to see this continue developing!
John
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On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Clément B. clem...@inventati.org wrote:
It appears to work for multicite for me. Or at least well enough. If I
select multiple entries, I get this:
[[ref:Author1:,Author2:,Author3:][()]]
I can then easily insert the text I want into the (). It exports
properly to LaTeX as \cite{Author1:,Author2:,Author3:}.
Maybe most people multi-cite more than me, but I think it is only a bit
of extra work to add what I want in the () and then it exports properly
to LaTeX and, using the references-via-LaTeX, to ODT/HTML too!
-k.
The problem is that you can't link to a bibtex entry,
[[ref:Author1:,Author2:]] is not picked up by org search
function of `org-open-file`. And even if it was, it couldn't link
to several entries at once. So to preserve the ability to jump
quickly to a reference, I quite like the export filter approach,
which I was unaware of (thank you Thomas! ).
Clément
[O] Is OrgMode really GTD compliant?
According to David Allen, whenever you define an action you need to assign three pieces of information that you will later use as criteria to decide what to do (in order of precedence): 1. Context: Where should I be (@home, @work, etc.) and/or which tools should I have at my disposal (@computer, @internet, etc.) to do this action? 2. Time needed: Which amount of time available must I have to do this action? 3. Energy needed: How wasted/fresh can I be to do this action? Then, when you're up for executing an action, you use context, time available, and energy available as a sieve to sift out what can be done. Only after you've looked at these three can you determine what is the priority for right now, the present moment. From the Getting Things Done perspective you don’t want to assign “priority” to action items on the front end because as soon as the situation changes and a couple of variables shift, as they are guaranteed to do, it will alter the array of possibilities. So lots of the action items you have rated at given priority levels are going to change. And when they do, then you’re busy re-prioritizing all those items. This is why David Allen, states that The `ABC' priority codes don’t work. GTD suggests that priority makes a lot more sense to assess when you know the complete context+time available+energy available of the given moment. Orgmode helps you capture - the context: by means of tags, - the time needed: by means of an effort property, - the ABC priorities: by means of cookies. One notices: 1) Orgmode offers a default implementation for priorities although this fourth criteria should not formally be dealt with according to GTD. 2) The energy criteria is absent 3) The word effort is misnamed as it reminds more of an energy measure than a duration. Has anyone tried to customize orgmode so as to make it really GTD compliant?
Re: [O] customizing org-beamer--format-frame
Yes, that's right. H:2 On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Eric S Fraga e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk wrote: On Sunday, 27 Apr 2014 at 10:14, Seb Frank wrote: Thanks so much! I was trying to get a bit more flexibility with that separate slide (e.g., have the title in the centre of the page and no toc). So I took inspiration from your great solution and defined a latex macro Interesting solution! Thanks for this. I can see its uses. For completeness, I assume you are using the H:2 option? -- : Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 24.4.50.2, Org release_8.2.5h-1027-g4c0a29
Re: [O] State of the art in citations
Hi John,
This is great ! Way more advanced than anything I have said.
2. Clickable cite links. If you have a citation link like
cite:key1,key2,key3 you can click on key1 and open the bibliography file to
key1, and you can click on key2 and have it open at key 2. This link would
export in latex as \cite{key1,key2,key3}. Other cite formats, e.g. citep,
citep*, etc... are defined too, but are relatively untested. You can also
use completion to enter a bibtex key.
This was my main concern, glad to see you can treat the different
parts of the links as separate citations, and access their
respective bibtex entry. The completion is very handy too.
9. variables to point to a notes file and pdf directory, and functions to
jump to your notes and the pdf file from a bibtex entry.
I use something similar, but only for the pdf file. I think the
open-in-browser function is implemented in the latest bibtex-mode
(`bibtex-url` bound to C-c C-l).
Bye,
Clément
[O] using org-refile to sort research notes?
Hello friendly org-mode community, I'm using org-mode to research and write a nonfiction book. I have a large amount of notes and quotes that I now need to sort into separate files. I am creating separate org files, one for each chapter of my book— chapter-1.org, chapter-2.org, etc.—with org headings in each one for every topic/subsection. I now want to categorize my notes, moving them from where they are—i.e. in a set of long, unorganized org files with names like new-research.org and more-research-and-notes.org—into the the chapter files. 1. Am I right in thinking that org-refile is the most efficient way to do this? 2. What's the best way to do this? Should I add all of my chapter.org files to the agenda using org-agenda-file-to-front? I ask because these are not TODO headings, just headings with notes and quotes, so I'm not sure if using org-agenda functionality is appropriate. 3. I am also learning to use org-agenda, so I do have a work.org file that has my TODO tasks in it. Is there a way to temporarily remove my work.orgTODO headings from the refile targets for when I'm sorting my book notes? Or is there a way to have different projects with separate sets of refile targets, one set of agenda files with refile targets for when I'm refiling TODO tasks, another set of agenda files for when I'm refiling book notes? Thanks in advance for any advice. Best, Jay --- Jay Dixit jaydixit.com (646) 355-8001 [image: Facebook] http://facebook.com/jaydixit [image: Twitter]https://twitter.com/jaydixit [image: The New York Writers’ Intensive]http://www.newyorkwritersintensive.com Jay Dixit ᐧ
Re: [O] Is OrgMode really GTD compliant?
Hi Rene, Rene jl...@yahoo.com writes: According to David Allen, whenever you define an action you need to assign three pieces of information that you will later use as criteria to decide what to do (in order of precedence): 1. Context: Where should I be (@home, @work, etc.) and/or which tools should I have at my disposal (@computer, @internet, etc.) to do this action? 2. Time needed: Which amount of time available must I have to do this action? 3. Energy needed: How wasted/fresh can I be to do this action? Then, when you're up for executing an action, you use context, time available, and energy available as a sieve to sift out what can be done. Only after you've looked at these three can you determine what is the priority for right now, the present moment. ... Orgmode helps you capture - the context: by means of tags, - the time needed: by means of an effort property, - the ABC priorities: by means of cookies. ... Has anyone tried to customize orgmode so as to make it really GTD compliant? I am not really familiar with the official GTD methodology, and I don't know exactly how you would normally represent the energy needed associated with a task, but here's a suggestion. It occurs to me that you could just use the A/B/C priority cookies to represent energy levels, since you don't want to use them to encode priorities. Something like: #A: need to be fresh #C: can be wasted #B: everything else or whatever would work for you. If that's granular enough to represent your energy-needed levels, then it's a neat hack that requires zero customization. Sorting and filtering by energy needed is then already built into the agenda functions, etc. Just think energy needed whenever Org says priority (which isn't very often), and you're good to go. -- Best, Richard
Re: [O] using org-refile to sort research notes?
Hi Jay, C-c [ and C-c ] adds and removes the current file from the agenda list. I can never remember these, so I leave the menus turned on in emacs (makes me a wimp!). BUT: do you really need to do this? It is the way I used to work, but my current book is 600+ pages and I am keeping it and all my research in a single file. By using the 'hoist' C-x n s for a subtree, writing is focussed and yet everything is where I need it. Maybe it won't work for you but I find it very convenient. Cheers, Alan On 28/04/14 08:25, Jay Dixit wrote: Hello friendly org-mode community, I'm using org-mode to research and write a nonfiction book. I have a large amount of notes and quotes that I now need to sort into separate files. I am creating separate org files, one for each chapter of my book—chapter-1.org http://chapter-1.org, chapter-2.org http://chapter-2.org, etc.—with org headings in each one for every topic/subsection. I now want to categorize my notes, moving them from where they are—i.e. in a set of long, unorganized org files with names like new-research.org http://new-research.org and more-research-and-notes.org http://more-research-and-notes.org—into the the chapter files. 1. Am I right in thinking that org-refile is the most efficient way to do this? 2. What's the best way to do this? Should I add all of my chapter.org http://chapter.org files to the agenda using org-agenda-file-to-front? I ask because these are not TODO headings, just headings with notes and quotes, so I'm not sure if using org-agenda functionality is appropriate. 3. I am also learning to use org-agenda, so I do have a work.org http://work.org file that has my TODO tasks in it. Is there a way to temporarily remove my work.org http://work.org TODO headings from the refile targets for when I'm sorting my book notes? Or is there a way to have different projects with separate sets of refile targets, one set of agenda files with refile targets for when I'm refiling TODO tasks, another set of agenda files for when I'm refiling book notes? Thanks in advance for any advice. Best, Jay --- Jay Dixit jaydixit.com http://jaydixit.com (646) 355-8001 Facebook http://facebook.com/jaydixit Twitter https://twitter.com/jaydixit The New York Writers’ Intensive http://www.newyorkwritersintensive.com Jay Dixit ᐧ -- Alan L Tyreehttp://www2.austlii.edu.au/~alan Tel: 04 2748 6206 sip:typh...@iptel.org
Re: [O] using org-refile to sort research notes?
Hi Jay, Jay Dixit di...@aya.yale.edu writes: Hello friendly org-mode community, I'm using org-mode to research and write a nonfiction book. I have a large amount of notes and quotes that I now need to sort into separate files. I am creating separate org files, one for each chapter of my book— chapter-1.org, chapter-2.org, etc.—with org headings in each one for every topic/subsection. I now want to categorize my notes, moving them from where they are—i.e. in a set of long, unorganized org files with names like new-research.org and more-research-and-notes.org—into the the chapter files. 1. Am I right in thinking that org-refile is the most efficient way to do this? That sounds right to me. 2. What's the best way to do this? Should I add all of my chapter.org files to the agenda using org-agenda-file-to-front? I ask because these are not TODO headings, just headings with notes and quotes, so I'm not sure if using org-agenda functionality is appropriate. Rather than adding these files to the agenda, I would have a look at the `org-refile-targets' variable. This variable tells Org where to look for entries to refile under. If this is a one-time operation, you may be able to just set the variable a few times: adjust the variable to point to your chapter-1.org notes heading, then refile all those notes; then point it to your chapter-2.org notes heading, then refile all those notes...; etc. This will make it super easy to get the right refile target. Thanks in advance for any advice. I don't know what led you to choose the new file layout that you're moving to, but here is an alternative that you might also consider. Make your project into just two files, say book.org and notes.org; the first contains the text of the book, while the second contains the notes and tasks for each chapter. One advantage of this setup is that it would allow you to organize your notes in whatever way is most natural to them, rather than by chapter. You can then use tags to associate notes with chapters. If for example you have some quotes that belong together but are relevant to both chapters 1 and 2, you can have them in a single entry in notes.org, tagged with :ch1:ch2:. Likewise for tasks: if some tasks require you to modify multiple chapters, you just tag them multiple times. (Links may also be helpful in this setup.) I used to have a setup a lot like the one you described, but I found that tags allowed me to organize my notes and tasks with much more flexibility than using a tree-like hierarchy. There's always the question of where some note belongs when you can only file it in one place. I now use the two-file setup for writing my dissertation. I keep tasks and notes about readings I do in one file, with tags to associate them with chapters and so on, and do my actual writing in another file. This keeps both types of information clean and organized, but I can move easily between them. -- Best, Richard
Re: [O] Export HTML with Properties and Tags
Nick Dokos ndo...@gmail.com writes: #+OPTIONS: prop:t Exactly what I needed. Thanks. Is there some way to set this globally, though? -- Esben Stien is b0ef@e s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n
Re: [O] State of the art in citations
Hi Clément and all, Clément B. clem...@autistici.org writes: As for citations, I find that the most flexible way is to define my own link types, that allows control on both org formatting and export... Replacing my inline \cite commands with custom link types is something I've been meaning to do for a while. Thanks for the implementation ideas! I have a setup that for some people may complement the one Clément describes. Rather than dealing with .bib files and RefTeX, I represent my bibliography in Org, and use org-bibtex to (re-)generate a .bib file as needed. Here's how it works, in brief; I described it more fully at: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/79016/ 1) I store each reading as a TODO headline using a capture template. I use the post-capture hook to call org-bibtex-create-in-current-entry as appropriate. This allows me to keep notes, links, deadlines etc. associated with each reading in Org, as well as the bibliographic data. 2) I have a function that uses org-map-entries to walk over the headlines for my readings and export them to a .bib file. This regenerates my .bib file on an as-needed basis; the real bibliographic database is stored in Org. (I call this function from a Makefile, but it could just as easily be used from within the Org export process.) The next step, which I haven't yet implemented but which would connect this setup to one like Clément described, would be to add behavior to the custom link types so that *following* the link would jump to the associated TODO entry for the reading, rather than the entry in the .bib file. This should be straightforward, since org-bibtex uses the CUSTOM_ID property to store the cite key. And jumping to my own notes about a reference (which might further link to the original text), rather than to a .bib file, is usually what I want. -- Best, Richard
Re: [O] [RFC] [PATCH] ob-core.el: allow the auto-generation of output file names for src blocks.
Hi Eric, Bastien, Achim,
Thanks so much for the feedback. I’ve adopted the :file-ext approach
suggested by Bastien, leaving the previous default behavior in place for
blocks with a :file argument.
2014ko apirilak 22an, Eric Schulte-ek idatzi zuen:
[...]
One option might be to borrow naming behavior from the comment
functionality in ob-tangle which looks like the following (from line 426
in ob-tangle.el).
(let (...
(source-name
(intern (or (nth 4 info) ; explicit #+name:
(format %s:%d; constructed from header and position
(or (ignore-errors (nth 4
(org-heading-components)))
No heading)
block-counter
...))
I’m not sure I like this approach. It relies on counting source
blocks, so an addition/deletion of a block could change the index.
I’m worried that this can lead to the accumulation of many output
files: heading:1.ext, heading:2.ext, ... all with no clear indication
of what block they were spawned by. It would also be possible for
the result links in the buffer to become inconsistent with the actual
block:auto-generated name mapping.
I think I would prefer the code in this patch to do nothing in this case
(not create a :file value), but for language-specific code that needs a
:file to raise an error to prompt the user to add a name.
2. should :output-dir apply to the :file case as well?
If you mean should :output-dir be used as the base when :file is a
relative pathname then I'd say yes, and I think if this isn't the
current behavior then the current behavior should be changed.
Achim raises a backwards compatibility concern. I am not sure how
serious it is: the default settings (no :output-dir) are backwards
compatible, and if users set that arg we ought to just give them what
they ask for.
Nonetheless, the new version of the patch conservatively obeys Achim’s
suggestion. I can change this to your suggestion, if that is the
consensus.
To address a comment from Bastien: :output-dir accepts absolute as well
as relative directory names. Referring to a “subdirectory” was a
mistake on my part; the docs in the new patch should be clearer.
The updated patch (now with docs and tests) is attached to this email.
Thanks again,
--
Aaron Ecay
From 4b428820432752117c60b79da0a79fd4e50e4ba1 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Aaron Ecay aarone...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 15:13:48 -0400
Subject: [PATCH] ob-core.el: allow the auto-generation of output file names
for src blocks.
* lisp/ob-core.el (org-babel-generate-file-param): New function.
(org-babel-get-src-block-info): Use it.
* testing/lisp/test-ob.el (test-org-babel/file-ext-and-output-dir):
New test.
* doc/org.texi (Specific header arguments): Add doc for :file-ext and
:output-dir header args.
---
doc/org.texi | 27 +++
lisp/ob-core.el| 34 ++
testing/examples/babel.org | 34 ++
testing/lisp/test-ob.el| 14 ++
4 files changed, 109 insertions(+)
diff --git a/doc/org.texi b/doc/org.texi
index 2546be1..79cc044 100644
--- a/doc/org.texi
+++ b/doc/org.texi
@@ -14406,6 +14406,8 @@ argument in lowercase letters. The following header arguments are defined:
be collected and handled
* file::Specify a path for file output
* file-desc:: Specify a description for file results
+* file-ext::Specify an extension for file output
+* output-dir:: Specify a directory to write file output to
* dir:: Specify the default (possibly remote)
directory for code block execution
* exports:: Export code and/or results
@@ -14840,6 +14842,31 @@ description for file code block results which are inserted as Org mode links
with no value the link path will be placed in both the ``link'' and the
``description'' portion of the Org mode link.
+@node file-ext
+@subsubsection @code{:file-ext}
+@cindex @code{:file-ext}, src header argument
+
+The value of the @code{:file-ext} header argument is used to provide an
+extension to write the file output to. It is combined with the
+@code{#+NAME:} of the source block and the value of the @ref{output-dir}
+header argument to generate a complete file name.
+
+This header arg will be overridden by @code{:file}, and thus has no effect
+when the latter is specified.
+
+@node output-dir
+@subsubsection @code{:output-dir}
+@cindex @code{:output-dir}, src header argument
+
+The value of the @code{:output-dir} header argument is used to provide a
+directory to write the file output to. It may specify an absolute directory
+(beginning with @code{/}) or a relative directory (without @code{/}). It is
+combined with the @code{#+NAME:} of the source block and the value
[O] Org version of texinfo manual
Hello orgers, Last year, Thomas started a project to translate the org manual to org format, and use the ox-texinfo exporter to generate the .info and .pdf manuals. (email thread: http://mid.gmane.org/m1bob8cffh@tsdye.com) It seems like that project showed promise but never was completed. Is there any interest in seeing it through? As an occasional contributor, I would certainly find it pleasanter and less time-consuming to write docs in org rather than texinfo. Thanks, -- Aaron Ecay
[O] BUG in reference by ID to remote table (was Re: org babel question: reference tables in remote file)
There is an apparent bug when using the ID property to refer to cells in remote tables, which is currently the only way to refer to a table in an external file. This is illustrated in the attached org file. In brief, the bug is triggered by any ID that contains a sequence matching the regexp -[A-Z]+[0-9]+-, which org wants to interpret as a spreadsheet-style cell reference. Also, it would be more user friendly if CUSTOM_ID properties could also be used in this way. Would that be easy to implement? Will On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Bastien b...@gnu.org wrote: Hi Arun, Arun Persaud apers...@lbl.gov writes: thanks for the answer. It would be nice to be able to reference tables in other files easily though, so some form of path:tablename would be great for the remote call. Is there some special ref syntax that could be used here? remote(NAME-OR-ID,REF) describes a reference to a table in a section, possibly in a different file, and the ID property is probably more stable than a filename, so I'd argue that what we have is enough. -- Bastien -- Dr William Henney, Centro de Radioastronomía y Astrofísica, Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México, Campus Morelia remote-ref-test.org Description: Binary data
Re: [O] Export HTML with Properties and Tags
Esben Stien b...@esben-stien.name writes: Nick Dokos ndo...@gmail.com writes: #+OPTIONS: prop:t Exactly what I needed. Thanks. Is there some way to set this globally, though? Yes - please reread my response: the second part describes how to get to the relevant variable. -- Nick
