Re: [Orgmode] [babel] Moving to babel the whole configuration
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Dan Davison wrote: andrea writes: I'm really tempted to move all my emacs configuration in only one big file. This would also help me to make it more consistent and readable. But I'm afraid to mess up something, in theory I just need: - a simple org and babel loader - one big file containing everything Hi Andrea, I've used a single org mode file to keep all my emacs configuration code for the last 5 months or so and I have not had any problems at all. I highly recommend it. I am using a simple set up: My ~/.emacs contains -- (add-to-list 'load-path /usr/local/src/org-mode/lisp) (add-to-list 'load-path /usr/local/src/org-mode/contrib/lisp) (require 'org-install) (require 'org-babel-init) (org-babel-load-file ~/config/emacs/emacs.org) -- and all the rest of my emacs config code is in ~/config/emacs/emacs.org This works very nicely. Thank you. I am thinking about making my config a little leaner while I reorganize without affecting functionality I have gotten used to by preventing sections of config from loading. I thought setting :tangle to `no' should help but the default is already `no' and all my config is loaded. How would one go about marking a section of configuration so that it remains in the configuration file but does not get tangled while Emacs boots? Thanks -- Manish ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] [babel] Moving to babel the whole configuration
Manish mailtomanish.sha...@gmail.com writes: On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Dan Davison wrote: andrea writes: I'm really tempted to move all my emacs configuration in only one big file. This would also help me to make it more consistent and readable. But I'm afraid to mess up something, in theory I just need: - a simple org and babel loader - one big file containing everything Hi Andrea, I've used a single org mode file to keep all my emacs configuration code for the last 5 months or so and I have not had any problems at all. I highly recommend it. I am using a simple set up: My ~/.emacs contains -- (add-to-list 'load-path /usr/local/src/org-mode/lisp) (add-to-list 'load-path /usr/local/src/org-mode/contrib/lisp) (require 'org-install) (require 'org-babel-init) (org-babel-load-file ~/config/emacs/emacs.org) -- and all the rest of my emacs config code is in ~/config/emacs/emacs.org This works very nicely. Thank you. I am thinking about making my config a little leaner while I reorganize without affecting functionality I have gotten used to by preventing sections of config from loading. I thought setting :tangle to `no' should help but the default is already `no' and all my config is loaded. How would one go about marking a section of configuration so that it remains in the configuration file but does not get tangled while Emacs boots? Hi Manish, I think this will require a little development/bug-fixing on my part before it works easily. As I recall the elisp tangling in `org-babel-load-file' is fairly aggressive and may not respect tangle header arguments. But the method you described above (setting the tangle header argument to no -- either in a subtree property or by block) is certainly the correct approach. I'll let you know when I find some time to look into this. Best -- Eric Thanks ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] [babel] Moving to babel the whole configuration
Eric Schulte schulte.e...@gmail.com writes: Manish mailtomanish.sha...@gmail.com writes: On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Dan Davison wrote: andrea writes: I'm really tempted to move all my emacs configuration in only one big file. This would also help me to make it more consistent and readable. But I'm afraid to mess up something, in theory I just need: - a simple org and babel loader - one big file containing everything Hi Andrea, I've used a single org mode file to keep all my emacs configuration code for the last 5 months or so and I have not had any problems at all. I highly recommend it. I am using a simple set up: My ~/.emacs contains -- (add-to-list 'load-path /usr/local/src/org-mode/lisp) (add-to-list 'load-path /usr/local/src/org-mode/contrib/lisp) (require 'org-install) (require 'org-babel-init) (org-babel-load-file ~/config/emacs/emacs.org) -- and all the rest of my emacs config code is in ~/config/emacs/emacs.org This works very nicely. Thank you. I am thinking about making my config a little leaner while I reorganize without affecting functionality I have gotten used to by preventing sections of config from loading. I thought setting :tangle to `no' should help but the default is already `no' and all my config is loaded. How would one go about marking a section of configuration so that it remains in the configuration file but does not get tangled while Emacs boots? Hi Manish, I think this will require a little development/bug-fixing on my part before it works easily. As I recall the elisp tangling in `org-babel-load-file' is fairly aggressive and may not respect tangle header arguments. But the method you described above (setting the tangle header argument to no -- either in a subtree property or by block) is certainly the correct approach. Hi Eric -- I believe you already have it working in exactly this way :) Manish -- could you double check please? I use :tangle no to exclude blocks of elisp from my emacs init file, and it is working. Dan I'll let you know when I find some time to look into this. Best -- Eric Thanks ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] [babel] Moving to babel the whole configuration
On Jan 26, 2010, at 10:34 AM, Dan Davison wrote: Eric Schulte schulte.e...@gmail.com writes: Manish mailtomanish.sha...@gmail.com writes: On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Dan Davison wrote: andrea writes: I'm really tempted to move all my emacs configuration in only one big file. This would also help me to make it more consistent and readable. But I'm afraid to mess up something, in theory I just need: - a simple org and babel loader - one big file containing everything Hi Andrea, I've used a single org mode file to keep all my emacs configuration code for the last 5 months or so and I have not had any problems at all. I highly recommend it. I am using a simple set up: My ~/.emacs contains -- (add-to-list 'load-path /usr/local/src/org-mode/lisp) (add-to-list 'load-path /usr/local/src/org-mode/contrib/lisp) (require 'org-install) (require 'org-babel-init) (org-babel-load-file ~/config/emacs/emacs.org) -- and all the rest of my emacs config code is in ~/config/emacs/emacs.org This works very nicely. Thank you. I am thinking about making my config a little leaner while I reorganize without affecting functionality I have gotten used to by preventing sections of config from loading. I thought setting :tangle to `no' should help but the default is already `no' and all my config is loaded. How would one go about marking a section of configuration so that it remains in the configuration file but does not get tangled while Emacs boots? Hi Manish, I think this will require a little development/bug-fixing on my part before it works easily. As I recall the elisp tangling in `org-babel-load-file' is fairly aggressive and may not respect tangle header arguments. But the method you described above (setting the tangle header argument to no -- either in a subtree property or by block) is certainly the correct approach. Hi Eric -- I believe you already have it working in exactly this way :) Manish -- could you double check please? I use :tangle no to exclude blocks of elisp from my emacs init file, and it is working. Dan I'll let you know when I find some time to look into this. Best -- Eric Hi all, I'm having the same experience as Dan. :tangle no keeps code blocks in my .org file from showing up in my .el file. All the best, Tom ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] [babel] Moving to babel the whole configuration
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 2:04 AM, Dan Davison wrote: Eric Schulte writes: Manish writes: On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Dan Davison wrote: andrea writes: I'm really tempted to move all my emacs configuration in only one big file. This would also help me to make it more consistent and readable. But I'm afraid to mess up something, in theory I just need: - a simple org and babel loader - one big file containing everything Hi Andrea, I've used a single org mode file to keep all my emacs configuration code for the last 5 months or so and I have not had any problems at all. I highly recommend it. I am using a simple set up: My ~/.emacs contains -- (add-to-list 'load-path /usr/local/src/org-mode/lisp) (add-to-list 'load-path /usr/local/src/org-mode/contrib/lisp) (require 'org-install) (require 'org-babel-init) (org-babel-load-file ~/config/emacs/emacs.org) -- and all the rest of my emacs config code is in ~/config/emacs/emacs.org This works very nicely. Thank you. I am thinking about making my config a little leaner while I reorganize without affecting functionality I have gotten used to by preventing sections of config from loading. I thought setting :tangle to `no' should help but the default is already `no' and all my config is loaded. How would one go about marking a section of configuration so that it remains in the configuration file but does not get tangled while Emacs boots? Hi Manish, I think this will require a little development/bug-fixing on my part before it works easily. As I recall the elisp tangling in `org-babel-load-file' is fairly aggressive and may not respect tangle header arguments. But the method you described above (setting the tangle header argument to no -- either in a subtree property or by block) is certainly the correct approach. Hi Eric -- I believe you already have it working in exactly this way :) Manish -- could you double check please? I use :tangle no to exclude blocks of elisp from my emacs init file, and it is working. You are right. I just did not try it at all after reading that :tangle no was the default. My apologies. I ran some tests and here are the results. | SET AS| VALUE | RESULT | |---+---+-| | not set | n/a | tangled | | property :TANGLE: | no| not tangled | | property :TANGLE: | yes | backtrace | | header argument :tangle | no| not tangled | | header argument :tangle | yes | backtrace | --8---cut here---start-8--- Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-variable compilation-mode-map) (define-key compilation-mode-map (kbd n) (quote compilation-next-error)) eval-buffer(#buffer *load*2 nil d:/home/zms/.emacs.d/emacs.el nil t) ; Reading at buffer position 3862 load-with-code-conversion(d:/home/zms/.emacs.d/emacs.el d:/home/zms/.emacs.d/emacs.el nil nil) load(d:/home/zms/.emacs.d/emacs.el nil nil t) load-file(~/.emacs.d/emacs.el) (let* ((base-name ...) (exported-file ...)) (unless (and ... ...) (org-babel-tangle-file file base-name emacs-lisp)) (load-file exported-file) (message loaded %s exported-file)) (progn (fset (quote age) (function* ...)) (let* (... ...) (unless ... ...) (load-file exported-file) (message loaded %s exported-file))) (unwind-protect (progn (fset ... ...) (let* ... ... ... ...)) (if --cl-letf-bound-- (fset ... --cl-letf-save--) (fmakunbound ...))) (let* ((--cl-letf-bound-- ...) (--cl-letf-save-- ...)) (unwind-protect (progn ... ...) (if --cl-letf-bound-- ... ...))) (letf ((... ...)) (let* (... ...) (unless ... ...) (load-file exported-file) (message loaded %s exported-file))) (letf* ((... ...)) (let* (... ...) (unless ... ...) (load-file exported-file) (message loaded %s exported-file))) (flet ((age ... ...)) (let* (... ...) (unless ... ...) (load-file exported-file) (message loaded %s exported-file))) org-babel-load-file(~/.emacs.d/emacs.org) eval-buffer(#buffer *load* nil d:/home/zms/.emacs.d/init.el nil t) ; Reading at buffer position 1576 load-with-code-conversion(d:/home/zms/.emacs.d/init.el d:/home/zms/.emacs.d/init.el t t) load(d:/home/zms/.emacs.d/init t t) #[nil --8---cut here---end---8--- Thanks -- Manish ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] [babel] Moving to babel the whole configuration
At Thu, 21 Jan 2010 07:43:17 -1000, Thomas S. Dye wrote: Have you seen the emacs starter kits? I've found Eric Schulte's starter kit to be very handy. After struggling with emacs configuration for decades I now have at least the illusion of control. The configuration is held in a series of org files that hold emacs-lisp code blocks, which are tangled to produce the .el file that emacs expects. Each of my code chunks resides under its own org-mode heading, replete with notes, links, etc. It is kind of like a literate .emacs program. Argghhh! I hate org-mode sometimes [1]: just when I think I'm reaching a stable system, somebody comes along and makes me realise how much better (easier to manage/understand) my system would be if I put yet more under org-mode control! Time to go through my .emacs etc files -- if you don't hear from me for several months, you'll know why! eric Footnotes: [1] As always, thanks to Carsten et al. for such a wonderful and useful tool which has, without exaggeration, transformed by life in both dramatic and subtle ways. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] [babel] Moving to babel the whole configuration
I'm really tempted to move all my emacs configuration in only one big file. This would also help me to make it more consistent and readable. But I'm afraid to mess up something, in theory I just need: - a simple org and babel loader - one big file containing everything But how is emacs behaving? For example the customization frame would be able to write on that file? Other possible problems? ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] [babel] Moving to babel the whole configuration
andrea andrea.crott...@gmail.com writes: I'm really tempted to move all my emacs configuration in only one big file. This would also help me to make it more consistent and readable. But I'm afraid to mess up something, in theory I just need: - a simple org and babel loader - one big file containing everything Hi Andrea, I've used a single org mode file to keep all my emacs configuration code for the last 5 months or so and I have not had any problems at all. I highly recommend it. I am using a simple set up: My ~/.emacs contains -- (add-to-list 'load-path /usr/local/src/org-mode/lisp) (add-to-list 'load-path /usr/local/src/org-mode/contrib/lisp) (require 'org-install) (require 'org-babel-init) (org-babel-load-file ~/config/emacs/emacs.org) -- and all the rest of my emacs config code is in ~/config/emacs/emacs.org There is a more sophisticated setup described in the org-babel manual http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/intro.php in the section Emacs Initialization with Org-babel But how is emacs behaving? For example the customization frame would be able to write on that file? M-x customize writes things like (custom-set-variables ...) to the bottom of my ~/.emacs file. But I don't really use M-x customize much. Dan Other possible problems? ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] [babel] Moving to babel the whole configuration
On Jan 21, 2010, at 6:19 AM, andrea wrote: I'm really tempted to move all my emacs configuration in only one big file. This would also help me to make it more consistent and readable. But I'm afraid to mess up something, in theory I just need: - a simple org and babel loader - one big file containing everything But how is emacs behaving? For example the customization frame would be able to write on that file? Other possible problems? Hi Andrea, Have you seen the emacs starter kits? I've found Eric Schulte's starter kit to be very handy. After struggling with emacs configuration for decades I now have at least the illusion of control. The configuration is held in a series of org files that hold emacs-lisp code blocks, which are tangled to produce the .el file that emacs expects. Each of my code chunks resides under its own org-mode heading, replete with notes, links, etc. It is kind of like a literate .emacs program. hth, Tom ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
