Re: [Orgmode] Does anyone use Jump C-c C-j
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Eric S Fraga ucec...@ucl.ac.uk wrote:
On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 14:09:22 -0500, Nathan Neff nathan.n...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 12:42 PM, David Frascone d...@frascone.com
wrote:
Jump - seems really hard to use.
I agree -- I've been on a quest to easily navigate my org-files also.
C-c C-j. Opens help window with cursor in it, so I have to C-x o to
get to Org-goto window.
I use Aquamacs, and the help window sometimes pops out, and sometimes
stays in the main frame. It's annoying.
I'm not sure what either of you is saying here. C-c C-j works very
simply: the little help window pops up but the key sequences (arrows
and TAB basically) allow me to move in the original buffer until I hit
RET at which point the popup disappears and I'm in the original buffer
at the new location.
Am I missing something?
When I did that, it started with all of the headings closed. If I'm looking
for something nested, it's VERY hard to use, or, I am doing something
wrong. See how easy it is for you to find something at level 3, for
example.
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Re: [Orgmode] Does anyone use Jump C-c C-j
On 10-Apr-29, at 10:27 AM, David Frascone wrote: On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Eric S Fraga ucec...@ucl.ac.uk wrote: I'm not sure what either of you is saying here. C-c C-j works very simply: the little help window pops up but the key sequences (arrows and TAB basically) allow me to move in the original buffer until I hit RET at which point the popup disappears and I'm in the original buffer at the new location. Am I missing something? When I did that, it started with all of the headings closed. If I'm looking for something nested, it's VERY hard to use, or, I am doing something wrong. See how easy it is for you to find something at level 3, for example. David, You are also able to do incremental search from the jump command. Just start typing the level 3 heading you're looking for, and you will be brought there as if you used C-s. -Anthony ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Does anyone use Jump C-c C-j
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 08:27:58 -0600, David Frascone d...@frascone.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Eric S Fraga ucec...@ucl.ac.uk wrote: On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 14:09:22 -0500, Nathan Neff nathan.n...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 12:42 PM, David Frascone d...@frascone.com wrote: Jump - seems really hard to use. I agree -- I've been on a quest to easily navigate my org-files also. C-c C-j. Opens help window with cursor in it, so I have to C-x o to get to Org-goto window. I use Aquamacs, and the help window sometimes pops out, and sometimes stays in the main frame. It's annoying. I'm not sure what either of you is saying here. C-c C-j works very simply: the little help window pops up but the key sequences (arrows and TAB basically) allow me to move in the original buffer until I hit RET at which point the popup disappears and I'm in the original buffer at the new location. Am I missing something? When I did that, it started with all of the headings closed. If I'm looking for something nested, it's VERY hard to use, or, I am doing something wrong. See how easy it is for you to find something at level 3, for example. Use the arrow keys to navigate to the top level heading, hit TAB to expand the next level in that sub-tree, use the arrow keys again, hit TAB on the second level heading, and recurse... I find this quite intuitive and easy to use. of course, this assumes you know the hierarchy (i.e. under which higher level headings your particular destination is to be found). if you don't know the hierarchy, I would suggest doing an expansion of the whole file into the headings view (I can't remember what it is called but C-u TAB cycles through the different views) and search using C-s instead... remembering that you always have the full power of emacs at hand which is partly what makes org so powerful! For example, you can also use M-x occur RET to search for particular strings in the whole file. -- Eric S Fraga GnuPG: 8F5C 279D 3907 E14A 5C29 570D C891 93D8 FFFC F67D ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Does anyone use Jump C-c C-j
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Eric S Fraga ucec...@ucl.ac.uk wrote: When I did that, it started with all of the headings closed. If I'm looking for something nested, it's VERY hard to use, or, I am doing something wrong. See how easy it is for you to find something at level 3, for example. Use the arrow keys to navigate to the top level heading, hit TAB to expand the next level in that sub-tree, use the arrow keys again, hit TAB on the second level heading, and recurse... I find this quite intuitive and easy to use. TAB was the secret here. I was using arrows, the right arrow, in particular, to try to traverse the hierarchy. With tab, it is now very useful, except for aquamacs opening the help in another window. I think I need to go back to Emacs.app of course, this assumes you know the hierarchy (i.e. under which higher level headings your particular destination is to be found). if you don't know the hierarchy, I would suggest doing an expansion of the whole file into the headings view (I can't remember what it is called but C-u TAB cycles through the different views) and search using C-s instead... remembering that you always have the full power of emacs at hand which is partly what makes org so powerful! For example, you can also use M-x occur RET to search for particular strings in the whole file. -- Eric S Fraga GnuPG: 8F5C 279D 3907 E14A 5C29 570D C891 93D8 FFFC F67D ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Does anyone use Jump C-c C-j
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 09:15:53 -0600, David Frascone d...@frascone.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Eric S Fraga ucec...@ucl.ac.uk wrote: When I did that, it started with all of the headings closed. If I'm looking for something nested, it's VERY hard to use, or, I am doing something wrong. See how easy it is for you to find something at level 3, for example. Use the arrow keys to navigate to the top level heading, hit TAB to expand the next level in that sub-tree, use the arrow keys again, hit TAB on the second level heading, and recurse... I find this quite intuitive and easy to use. TAB was the secret here. I was using arrows, the right arrow, in particular, to try to traverse the hierarchy. With tab, it is now very useful, Ah, excellent! except for aquamacs opening the help in another window. I think I need to go back to Emacs.app This, unfortunately, I cannot help with, having never used a Mac... (I'm linux 100% and have been since '92). I have no idea what the difference between Emacs.app and Aquamacs may be... -- Eric S Fraga GnuPG: 8F5C 279D 3907 E14A 5C29 570D C891 93D8 FFFC F67D ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Does anyone use Jump C-c C-j
On Apr 29, 2010, at 5:27 PM, Eric S Fraga wrote: On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 09:15:53 -0600, David Frascone d...@frascone.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Eric S Fraga ucec...@ucl.ac.uk wrote: When I did that, it started with all of the headings closed. If I'm looking for something nested, it's VERY hard to use, or, I am doing something wrong. See how easy it is for you to find something at level 3, for example. Use the arrow keys to navigate to the top level heading, hit TAB to expand the next level in that sub-tree, use the arrow keys again, hit TAB on the second level heading, and recurse... I find this quite intuitive and easy to use. TAB was the secret here. I was using arrows, the right arrow, in particular, to try to traverse the hierarchy. With tab, it is now very useful, Ah, excellent! except for aquamacs opening the help in another window. I think I need to go back to Emacs.app This, unfortunately, I cannot help with, having never used a Mac... (I'm linux 100% and have been since '92). I have no idea what the difference between Emacs.app and Aquamacs may be... AquaEmacs tries to be like other Mac Applications, which all open a new frame for each document. I think you can get i back to more normal Emacs behavior by customizing `pop-up-frames', `pop-up-windows', `display-buffer-reuse-frames'. - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Does anyone use Jump C-c C-j
David Frascone d...@frascone.com wrote: ... TAB was the secret here. I was using arrows, the right arrow, in particular, to try to traverse the hierarchy. With tab, it is now very useful, except for aquamacs opening the help in another window. I think I need to go back to Emacs.app [disclaimer: I don't know anything about aquamacs.] I see org-get-location creating the help buffer and trying *not* to pop up a frame by (let (... (pop-up-frames nil) ...) ...) Maybe you can check the global value of the pop-up-frames variable? If non-nil, set it to nil and try again (although that's going to change other things as well.) If it's nil, then I throw up my hands. But if that stops the frame from popping up, that might indicate a bug in the aquamacs emacs-lisp implementation: I think the setting above should percolate down so that when display-buffer gets called, it should listen to it. Nick ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Does anyone use Jump C-c C-j
Hi all On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote: On Apr 29, 2010, at 5:27 PM, Eric S Fraga wrote: On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 09:15:53 -0600, David Frascone d...@frascone.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Eric S Fraga ucec...@ucl.ac.uk wrote: except for aquamacs opening the help in another window. I think I need to go back to Emacs.app This, unfortunately, I cannot help with, having never used a Mac... (I'm linux 100% and have been since '92). I have no idea what the difference between Emacs.app and Aquamacs may be... AquaEmacs tries to be like other Mac Applications, which all open a new frame for each document. I think you can get i back to more normal Emacs behavior by customizing `pop-up-frames', `pop-up-windows', `display-buffer-reuse-frames'. Actually, I think you just need to do (setq special-display-regexps nil) to get Aquamacs to behave properly See http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/AquamacsEmacsCompatibilitySettings Cheers Will -- Dr William Henney, Centro de Radioastronomía y Astrofísica, Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México, Campus Morelia ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Does anyone use Jump C-c C-j
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 11:31 AM, William Henney when...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, I think you just need to do (setq special-display-regexps nil) to get Aquamacs to behave properly That one did it! ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Does anyone use Jump C-c C-j
Jump - seems really hard to use. C-c C-j. Opens help window with cursor in it, so I have to C-x o to get to Org-goto window. Then, once in the goto window, hitting tab opens the subtree, but pressing a down arrow again goes back to the top. Seems very useless for actually finding anything. Am I using it wrong? Dropping a mark and C-x C-x seems much easier. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Does anyone use Jump C-c C-j
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 12:42 PM, David Frascone d...@frascone.com wrote: Jump - seems really hard to use. I agree -- I've been on a quest to easily navigate my org-files also. C-c C-j. Opens help window with cursor in it, so I have to C-x o to get to Org-goto window. I use Aquamacs, and the help window sometimes pops out, and sometimes stays in the main frame. It's annoying. Then, once in the goto window, hitting tab opens the subtree, but pressing a down arrow again goes back to the top. Seems very useless for actually finding anything. Am I using it wrong? Dropping a mark and C-x C-x seems much easier. I would also like to know how to best navigate the *org-goto* buffer. I can jump back forth between search results using C-s and C-S s but it seems very clumsy. Personally, I've been using M-x occur I have M-n and M-p bound to next-error and prev-error, to go back forth between search results. HTH, --Nate ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Does anyone use Jump C-c C-j
On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 14:09:22 -0500, Nathan Neff nathan.n...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 12:42 PM, David Frascone d...@frascone.com wrote: Jump - seems really hard to use. I agree -- I've been on a quest to easily navigate my org-files also. C-c C-j. Opens help window with cursor in it, so I have to C-x o to get to Org-goto window. I use Aquamacs, and the help window sometimes pops out, and sometimes stays in the main frame. It's annoying. I'm not sure what either of you is saying here. C-c C-j works very simply: the little help window pops up but the key sequences (arrows and TAB basically) allow me to move in the original buffer until I hit RET at which point the popup disappears and I'm in the original buffer at the new location. Am I missing something? ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
