Re: [Orgmode] MACRO calls with linebreaks?

2009-08-11 Thread Carsten Dominik

Hi Stefan,

could you please make a complete example, with the complete macro
definition and calls, i.e. no ...?  This would give me something
to test without having to guess what might be happening.

Thanks.

- Carsten


On Aug 11, 2009, at 12:58 AM, Stefan Vollmar wrote:


Dear Carsten,

On 10.08.2009, at 10:09, Carsten Dominik wrote:


this should now work.

But note that the opening parenthesis must be attached to the macro  
name and the closing parenthesis must be attached to the }}},  
just as you have done in your proposal.


I have not tested this, please verify.


thank you!

Almost perfect: there seems to be some confusion as to when MACRO  
arguments are passed verbatim and when interpreted in org-fashion.  
Ideally, there should be a way to make sure that one gets verbatim  
text, possibly without leading white space.


(1)

{{{person(minerva_logo.png,
...)}}}

and

{{{person(
minerva_logo.png,
...)}}}

differ. The first version passes minerva_log.png as the first  
argument to the MACRO, the second version turns it into  
minervasublogo/sub.png.


(2)

{{{person(minerva_logo.png, somebody.jpg,
line1 br/ line2 br/ line3 br/,
someb...@nf.mpg.de
)}}}

works fine, however,

{{{person(minerva_logo.png, somebody.jpg,
line1 br/
line2 br/
line3 br/,
someb...@nf.mpg.de
)}}}

creates line1 folled by a line break (as expected) but all  
following HTML code rendered as text:

line1 br/ line2 lt;br/gt; line3 lt;br/gt;lt; [...]

(3)

{{{person(minerva_logo.png, somebody.jpg,
line1 br/
line2 @br/
line3 @br/,
someb...@nf.mpg.de
)}}}

this works (observe the inconsistency between line1 and the other  
lines: no @ here) up to and including line 3, the rest is HTML  
markup rendered as text just as in (2).


Warm regards,
Stefan



- Carsten

On Aug 9, 2009, at 2:40 AM, Stefan Vollmar wrote:


Hello,

I find org-mode's MACRO feature very useful for exporting to HTML  
as it allows you to generate literally any HTML construct that you  
need, here is a simple example: http://www.nf.mpg.de/kinderuni/kinderuni_en.html 
 (see the Colophon section; thanks again to everybody from the  
list who helped!).


For another project, we need to generate a table with many (multi- 
line) rows like this:


| logo.png | somebody.jpg | name \\ telephone \\ email... |

The images have different sizes (so some alignment is needed) and  
the text in the last column should have several lines (which  
should be next to the person's portrait). This can (currently) not  
been done with standard org tables (I am not complaining).


With something like this:

#+macro: person #+HTML: tabletrtd style=vertical- 
align:middle;margin-right:2em;margin-left:2em;padding:5px;[...]/ 
table


{{{person(logo.png, somebody.jpg, someb...@nf.mpg.de, namebr/ 
telephonebr/roombr/groupbr/[...])}}}


the problem can be solved and yet again org-mode's flexibility is  
demonstrated.


The MACRO can be hidden in a setup-file. However, the MACRO call  
can not and it looks like a kludge and is awkward to read. MACRO  
calls work well with few and short arguments - different from this  
case. The problem is that org-mode seems to require the brackets  
in one line for MACROs to work. Assuming this restriction was not  
there, one could write in a much more readable fashion:


{{{person(
logo.png, somebody.jpg,
someb...@nf.mpg.de,
namebr/
telephonebr/
roombr/
groupbr/
[...]
)}}}

and (just a thought) might expect white space in front of an  
argument to be ignored and linebreaks in arguments conserved.  
Maybe there is a better way to pass longer arguments to MACROs?


Any help is appreciated.
Warm regards,
Stefan


--
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Max-Planck-Institut für neurologische Forschung
Gleuelerstr. 50, 50931 Köln, Germany
Tel.: +49-221-4726-213  FAX +49-221-4726-298
Tel.: +49-221-478-5713  Mobile: 0160-93874279
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Re: [Orgmode] MACRO calls with linebreaks?

2009-08-11 Thread Carsten Dominik

Fixed, thanks.

- Carsten

On Aug 11, 2009, at 12:58 AM, Stefan Vollmar wrote:


Dear Carsten,

On 10.08.2009, at 10:09, Carsten Dominik wrote:


this should now work.

But note that the opening parenthesis must be attached to the macro  
name and the closing parenthesis must be attached to the }}},  
just as you have done in your proposal.


I have not tested this, please verify.


thank you!

Almost perfect: there seems to be some confusion as to when MACRO  
arguments are passed verbatim and when interpreted in org-fashion.  
Ideally, there should be a way to make sure that one gets verbatim  
text, possibly without leading white space.


(1)

{{{person(minerva_logo.png,
...)}}}

and

{{{person(
minerva_logo.png,
...)}}}

differ. The first version passes minerva_log.png as the first  
argument to the MACRO, the second version turns it into  
minervasublogo/sub.png.


(2)

{{{person(minerva_logo.png, somebody.jpg,
line1 br/ line2 br/ line3 br/,
someb...@nf.mpg.de
)}}}

works fine, however,

{{{person(minerva_logo.png, somebody.jpg,
line1 br/
line2 br/
line3 br/,
someb...@nf.mpg.de
)}}}

creates line1 folled by a line break (as expected) but all  
following HTML code rendered as text:

line1 br/ line2 lt;br/gt; line3 lt;br/gt;lt; [...]

(3)

{{{person(minerva_logo.png, somebody.jpg,
line1 br/
line2 @br/
line3 @br/,
someb...@nf.mpg.de
)}}}

this works (observe the inconsistency between line1 and the other  
lines: no @ here) up to and including line 3, the rest is HTML  
markup rendered as text just as in (2).


Warm regards,
Stefan



- Carsten

On Aug 9, 2009, at 2:40 AM, Stefan Vollmar wrote:


Hello,

I find org-mode's MACRO feature very useful for exporting to HTML  
as it allows you to generate literally any HTML construct that you  
need, here is a simple example: http://www.nf.mpg.de/kinderuni/kinderuni_en.html 
 (see the Colophon section; thanks again to everybody from the  
list who helped!).


For another project, we need to generate a table with many (multi- 
line) rows like this:


| logo.png | somebody.jpg | name \\ telephone \\ email... |

The images have different sizes (so some alignment is needed) and  
the text in the last column should have several lines (which  
should be next to the person's portrait). This can (currently) not  
been done with standard org tables (I am not complaining).


With something like this:

#+macro: person #+HTML: tabletrtd style=vertical- 
align:middle;margin-right:2em;margin-left:2em;padding:5px;[...]/ 
table


{{{person(logo.png, somebody.jpg, someb...@nf.mpg.de, namebr/ 
telephonebr/roombr/groupbr/[...])}}}


the problem can be solved and yet again org-mode's flexibility is  
demonstrated.


The MACRO can be hidden in a setup-file. However, the MACRO call  
can not and it looks like a kludge and is awkward to read. MACRO  
calls work well with few and short arguments - different from this  
case. The problem is that org-mode seems to require the brackets  
in one line for MACROs to work. Assuming this restriction was not  
there, one could write in a much more readable fashion:


{{{person(
logo.png, somebody.jpg,
someb...@nf.mpg.de,
namebr/
telephonebr/
roombr/
groupbr/
[...]
)}}}

and (just a thought) might expect white space in front of an  
argument to be ignored and linebreaks in arguments conserved.  
Maybe there is a better way to pass longer arguments to MACROs?


Any help is appreciated.
Warm regards,
Stefan


--
Dr. Stefan Vollmar, Dipl.-Phys.
Max-Planck-Institut für neurologische Forschung
Gleuelerstr. 50, 50931 Köln, Germany
Tel.: +49-221-4726-213  FAX +49-221-4726-298
Tel.: +49-221-478-5713  Mobile: 0160-93874279
Email: voll...@nf.mpg.de   http://www.nf.mpg.de







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Re: [Orgmode] MACRO calls with linebreaks?

2009-08-10 Thread Carsten Dominik

Hi Stefan,

this should now work.

But note that the opening parenthesis must be attached to the macro  
name and the closing parenthesis must be attached to the }}}, just  
as you have done in your proposal.


I have not tested this, please verify.

- Carsten

On Aug 9, 2009, at 2:40 AM, Stefan Vollmar wrote:


Hello,

I find org-mode's MACRO feature very useful for exporting to HTML as  
it allows you to generate literally any HTML construct that you  
need, here is a simple example: http://www.nf.mpg.de/kinderuni/kinderuni_en.html 
 (see the Colophon section; thanks again to everybody from the  
list who helped!).


For another project, we need to generate a table with many (multi- 
line) rows like this:


| logo.png | somebody.jpg | name \\ telephone \\ email... |

The images have different sizes (so some alignment is needed) and  
the text in the last column should have several lines (which should  
be next to the person's portrait). This can (currently) not been  
done with standard org tables (I am not complaining).


With something like this:

#+macro: person #+HTML: tabletrtd style=vertical- 
align:middle;margin-right:2em;margin-left:2em;padding:5px;[...]/ 
table


{{{person(logo.png, somebody.jpg, someb...@nf.mpg.de, namebr/ 
telephonebr/roombr/groupbr/[...])}}}


the problem can be solved and yet again org-mode's flexibility is  
demonstrated.


The MACRO can be hidden in a setup-file. However, the MACRO call can  
not and it looks like a kludge and is awkward to read. MACRO calls  
work well with few and short arguments - different from this case.  
The problem is that org-mode seems to require the brackets in one  
line for MACROs to work. Assuming this restriction was not there,  
one could write in a much more readable fashion:


{{{person(
logo.png, somebody.jpg,
someb...@nf.mpg.de,
namebr/
telephonebr/
roombr/
groupbr/
[...]
)}}}

and (just a thought) might expect white space in front of an  
argument to be ignored and linebreaks in arguments conserved. Maybe  
there is a better way to pass longer arguments to MACROs?


Any help is appreciated.
Warm regards,
Stefan
--
Dr. Stefan Vollmar, Dipl.-Phys.
Max-Planck-Institut für neurologische Forschung
Gleuelerstr. 50, 50931 Köln, Germany
Tel.: +49-221-4726-213  FAX +49-221-4726-298
Tel.: +49-221-478-5713  Mobile: 0160-93874279
Email: voll...@nf.mpg.de   http://www.nf.mpg.de







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Re: [Orgmode] MACRO calls with linebreaks?

2009-08-10 Thread Stefan Vollmar

Dear Carsten,

On 10.08.2009, at 10:09, Carsten Dominik wrote:


this should now work.

But note that the opening parenthesis must be attached to the macro  
name and the closing parenthesis must be attached to the }}}, just  
as you have done in your proposal.


I have not tested this, please verify.


thank you!

Almost perfect: there seems to be some confusion as to when MACRO  
arguments are passed verbatim and when interpreted in org-fashion.  
Ideally, there should be a way to make sure that one gets verbatim  
text, possibly without leading white space.


(1)

{{{person(minerva_logo.png,
...)}}}

and

{{{person(
minerva_logo.png,
...)}}}

differ. The first version passes minerva_log.png as the first  
argument to the MACRO, the second version turns it into  
minervasublogo/sub.png.


(2)

{{{person(minerva_logo.png, somebody.jpg,
line1 br/ line2 br/ line3 br/,
someb...@nf.mpg.de
)}}}

works fine, however,

{{{person(minerva_logo.png, somebody.jpg,
line1 br/
line2 br/
line3 br/,
someb...@nf.mpg.de
)}}}

creates line1 folled by a line break (as expected) but all following  
HTML code rendered as text:

line1 br/ line2 lt;br/gt; line3 lt;br/gt;lt; [...]

(3)

{{{person(minerva_logo.png, somebody.jpg,
line1 br/
line2 @br/
line3 @br/,
someb...@nf.mpg.de
)}}}

this works (observe the inconsistency between line1 and the other  
lines: no @ here) up to and including line 3, the rest is HTML  
markup rendered as text just as in (2).


Warm regards,
 Stefan



- Carsten

On Aug 9, 2009, at 2:40 AM, Stefan Vollmar wrote:


Hello,

I find org-mode's MACRO feature very useful for exporting to HTML  
as it allows you to generate literally any HTML construct that you  
need, here is a simple example: http://www.nf.mpg.de/kinderuni/kinderuni_en.html 
 (see the Colophon section; thanks again to everybody from the  
list who helped!).


For another project, we need to generate a table with many (multi- 
line) rows like this:


| logo.png | somebody.jpg | name \\ telephone \\ email... |

The images have different sizes (so some alignment is needed) and  
the text in the last column should have several lines (which should  
be next to the person's portrait). This can (currently) not been  
done with standard org tables (I am not complaining).


With something like this:

#+macro: person #+HTML: tabletrtd style=vertical- 
align:middle;margin-right:2em;margin-left:2em;padding:5px;[...]/ 
table


{{{person(logo.png, somebody.jpg, someb...@nf.mpg.de, namebr/ 
telephonebr/roombr/groupbr/[...])}}}


the problem can be solved and yet again org-mode's flexibility is  
demonstrated.


The MACRO can be hidden in a setup-file. However, the MACRO call  
can not and it looks like a kludge and is awkward to read. MACRO  
calls work well with few and short arguments - different from this  
case. The problem is that org-mode seems to require the brackets in  
one line for MACROs to work. Assuming this restriction was not  
there, one could write in a much more readable fashion:


{{{person(
logo.png, somebody.jpg,
someb...@nf.mpg.de,
namebr/
telephonebr/
roombr/
groupbr/
[...]
)}}}

and (just a thought) might expect white space in front of an  
argument to be ignored and linebreaks in arguments conserved. Maybe  
there is a better way to pass longer arguments to MACROs?


Any help is appreciated.
Warm regards,
Stefan


--
Dr. Stefan Vollmar, Dipl.-Phys.
Max-Planck-Institut für neurologische Forschung
Gleuelerstr. 50, 50931 Köln, Germany
Tel.: +49-221-4726-213  FAX +49-221-4726-298
Tel.: +49-221-478-5713  Mobile: 0160-93874279
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[Orgmode] MACRO calls with linebreaks?

2009-08-08 Thread Stefan Vollmar

Hello,

I find org-mode's MACRO feature very useful for exporting to HTML as  
it allows you to generate literally any HTML construct that you need,  
here is a simple example: http://www.nf.mpg.de/kinderuni/kinderuni_en.html 
 (see the Colophon section; thanks again to everybody from the list  
who helped!).


For another project, we need to generate a table with many (multi- 
line) rows like this:


| logo.png | somebody.jpg | name \\ telephone \\ email... |

The images have different sizes (so some alignment is needed) and the  
text in the last column should have several lines (which should be  
next to the person's portrait). This can (currently) not been done  
with standard org tables (I am not complaining).


With something like this:

#+macro: person #+HTML: tabletrtd style=vertical- 
align:middle;margin-right:2em;margin-left:2em;padding:5px;[...]/ 
table


{{{person(logo.png, somebody.jpg, someb...@nf.mpg.de, namebr/ 
telephonebr/roombr/groupbr/[...])}}}


the problem can be solved and yet again org-mode's flexibility is  
demonstrated.


The MACRO can be hidden in a setup-file. However, the MACRO call can  
not and it looks like a kludge and is awkward to read. MACRO calls  
work well with few and short arguments - different from this case. The  
problem is that org-mode seems to require the brackets in one line for  
MACROs to work. Assuming this restriction was not there, one could  
write in a much more readable fashion:


{{{person(
logo.png, somebody.jpg,
someb...@nf.mpg.de,
 namebr/
 telephonebr/
 roombr/
 groupbr/
 [...]
)}}}

and (just a thought) might expect white space in front of an argument  
to be ignored and linebreaks in arguments conserved. Maybe there is a  
better way to pass longer arguments to MACROs?


Any help is appreciated.
Warm regards,
 Stefan
--
Dr. Stefan Vollmar, Dipl.-Phys.
Max-Planck-Institut für neurologische Forschung
Gleuelerstr. 50, 50931 Köln, Germany
Tel.: +49-221-4726-213  FAX +49-221-4726-298
Tel.: +49-221-478-5713  Mobile: 0160-93874279
Email: voll...@nf.mpg.de   http://www.nf.mpg.de







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