Re: [Orgmode] Results of the SourceForge Community Award

2009-08-04 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Jul 24, 2009, at 12:56 PM, Bastien wrote:


Hi all,

the results of the SCCA 2009 have been announced and the winner in our
category is portableapps.com, a platform to carry computer programs on
a USB key.

Org-mode didn't win but it was really great to participate and to have
all these nice contributions from so many people!

A big thanks to all of you.

Let's keep making Org a tool which changes the way _we_ do  
everything :)



Well, at least it was not a close call :-)

   http://sourceforge.net/community/cca09/winners/

shows that we came in 9th of the 10 contenders.

I had a lot of fun with this, thanks to you all for voting and  
contributing.


- Carsten



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Re: [Orgmode] Results of the SourceForge Community Award

2009-08-04 Thread srandby

Carsten Dominik wrote:


Well, at least it was not a close call :-)

   http://sourceforge.net/community/cca09/winners/

shows that we came in 9th of the 10 contenders.


It looks to me that org-mode received around 873 votes which is pretty 
good in my book. PortableApps.com, a heavily advertised commercial 
product for Windows, could only muster 3880 votes. I am guessing that 
the percentage of PortableApps.com users who voted for it is much 
smaller than the percentage of org-mode users who voted for org-mode.


The PortableApps.com website claims that 100 million portable apps have 
been downloaded which must mean that the number of users of 
PortableApps.com is huge compared to the number of users of org-mode. 
With no advertising, no money, and a much smaller user base, org-mode 
outperformed PortableApps.com in the voting. Sounds like a victory to me.


Scott Randby


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Re: [Orgmode] Results of the SourceForge Community Award

2009-08-04 Thread Torsten Wagner
Carsten Dominik wrote:
 Well, at least it was not a close call :-)

http://sourceforge.net/community/cca09/winners/

 shows that we came in 9th of the 10 contenders.

It looks to me that org-mode received around 873 votes which is pretty
good in my book. PortableApps.com, a heavily advertised commercial
product for Windows, could only muster 3880 votes. I am guessing that
the percentage of PortableApps.com users who voted for it is much
smaller than the percentage of org-mode users who voted for org-mode.

The PortableApps.com website claims that 100 million portable apps have
been downloaded which must mean that the number of users of
PortableApps.com is huge compared to the number of users of org-mode.
With no advertising, no money, and a much smaller user base, org-mode
outperformed PortableApps.com in the voting. Sounds like a victory to me.


I just have to agree with that...
redefine the vote rule to be scientifically correct it should be 

impact = votes/user-base

this gives a similar value like the impact factor of scientific journals 
(published papers / overall citation of papers)  which more clearly depict the 
importance of the journal to its particular field. 

I guess with that org-mode might be the winner :)

Even if we just use the number of downloads I would say the number of 
downloads for org-mode is at least  two to three magnitudes smaller then 
PortableApps which makes org-mode (8.7e-4) has a 22.5 times higher impact then 
PortableApps (3.88e-5).

By the way is the number of org-mode users known somehow (and how to estimate 
it in future bundled with emacs23) ? Would be interesting to see how much 
people use org-mode

Nevertheless, even without this it was amazing to see that org-mode made it so 
far.

Bye
Totti

CC. Maybe someone should suggest this new rule set to sourceforge... and then 
lets see how 2010 is going on :)



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Re: [Orgmode] Results of the SourceForge Community Award

2009-07-29 Thread Ian Barton

Richard Riley wrote:

Bastien bastiengue...@googlemail.com writes:


Nick Dokos nicholas.do...@hp.com writes:


Indeed. BTW, I was curious to see what PortableApps did/looked like, and
(since I couldn't find an installation package for Linux) I downloaded
the sources and looked at them: this thing seems to be Windoze only
(maybe Mac too?) - is that true or did I overlook something?
To me that's true - I was a bit surprised too.  


Mmhh...  maybe the Windows user-base is bigger than the Emacs user-base?


PS. And if so, shouldn't the FTC come after them for false advertising?
PortableApps indeed :-)

:)


Come on chaps, you can run Windows under Vmware or VirtualBox you know!


Portable Apps runs fine under wine. I have a copy on my usb stick in 
case I go somewhere that only has Windows available. Since I don't have 
a Windows computer at home I test it under wine.


Of course I also have the Windows port of Emacs, so I can still run org, 
even if I am forced to use Windows:)


Ian.


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Re: [Orgmode] Results of the SourceForge Community Award

2009-07-29 Thread David A. Gershman

Know what they call the commercial version of Portable Apps?


A Netbook.


 Richard Riley wrote:
  Bastien bastiengue...@googlemail.com writes:
  
  Nick Dokos nicholas.do...@hp.com writes:
 
  Indeed. BTW, I was curious to see what PortableApps did/looked
like, and
  (since I couldn't find an installation package for Linux) I downloaded
  the sources and looked at them: this thing seems to be Windoze only
  (maybe Mac too?) - is that true or did I overlook something?
  To me that's true - I was a bit surprised too.  
 
  Mmhh...  maybe the Windows user-base is bigger than the Emacs
user-base?
 
  PS. And if so, shouldn't the FTC come after them for false
advertising?
  PortableApps indeed :-)
  :)
  
  Come on chaps, you can run Windows under Vmware or VirtualBox you know!
  
  
 Portable Apps runs fine under wine. I have a copy on my usb stick in 
 case I go somewhere that only has Windows available. Since I don't have 
 a Windows computer at home I test it under wine.
 
 Of course I also have the Windows port of Emacs, so I can still run org, 
 even if I am forced to use Windows:)
 
 Ian.
 
 
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Re: [Orgmode] Results of the SourceForge Community Award

2009-07-28 Thread Raffi R
 Nick Dokos nicholas.do...@hp.com writes:


 Mmhh...  maybe the Windows user-base is bigger than the Emacs user-base?

Well, it seems clear that org-mode needs virtualization functionality
so that everyone running PortableApps will already be using orgmode
anyways.


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Re: [Orgmode] Results of the SourceForge Community Award

2009-07-27 Thread Sebastian Rose
Bastien bastiengue...@googlemail.com writes:
 Hi all,

 the results of the SCCA 2009 have been announced and the winner in our
 category is portableapps.com, a platform to carry computer programs on 
 a USB key.

 Org-mode didn't win but it was really great to participate and to have
 all these nice contributions from so many people!

 A big thanks to all of you.  

 Let's keep making Org a tool which changes the way _we_ do everything :)


Well, being one of the last 144 projects out of 43500 is a victory!

There were thousands of applictions that didn't make it into the last
round.

:)


   Sebastian


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Re: [Orgmode] Results of the SourceForge Community Award

2009-07-27 Thread Nick Dokos
Sebastian Rose sebastian_r...@gmx.de wrote:

 Bastien bastiengue...@googlemail.com writes:
  Hi all,
 
  the results of the SCCA 2009 have been announced and the winner in our
  category is portableapps.com, a platform to carry computer programs on 
  a USB key.
 
  Org-mode didn't win but it was really great to participate and to have
  all these nice contributions from so many people!
 
  A big thanks to all of you.  
 
  Let's keep making Org a tool which changes the way _we_ do everything :)
 
 
 Well, being one of the last 144 projects out of 43500 is a victory!
 
 There were thousands of applictions that didn't make it into the last
 round.
 

Indeed. BTW, I was curious to see what PortableApps did/looked like, and
(since I couldn't find an installation package for Linux) I downloaded
the sources and looked at them: this thing seems to be Windoze only
(maybe Mac too?) - is that true or did I overlook something?

Thanks,
Nick

PS. And if so, shouldn't the FTC come after them for false advertising?
PortableApps indeed :-)


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Re: [Orgmode] Results of the SourceForge Community Award

2009-07-27 Thread Bastien
Nick Dokos nicholas.do...@hp.com writes:

 Indeed. BTW, I was curious to see what PortableApps did/looked like, and
 (since I couldn't find an installation package for Linux) I downloaded
 the sources and looked at them: this thing seems to be Windoze only
 (maybe Mac too?) - is that true or did I overlook something?

To me that's true - I was a bit surprised too.  

Mmhh...  maybe the Windows user-base is bigger than the Emacs user-base?

 PS. And if so, shouldn't the FTC come after them for false advertising?
 PortableApps indeed :-)

:)

-- 
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Re: [Orgmode] Results of the SourceForge Community Award

2009-07-27 Thread Richard Riley
Bastien bastiengue...@googlemail.com writes:

 Nick Dokos nicholas.do...@hp.com writes:

 Indeed. BTW, I was curious to see what PortableApps did/looked like, and
 (since I couldn't find an installation package for Linux) I downloaded
 the sources and looked at them: this thing seems to be Windoze only
 (maybe Mac too?) - is that true or did I overlook something?

 To me that's true - I was a bit surprised too.  

 Mmhh...  maybe the Windows user-base is bigger than the Emacs user-base?

 PS. And if so, shouldn't the FTC come after them for false advertising?
 PortableApps indeed :-)

 :)

Come on chaps, you can run Windows under Vmware or VirtualBox you know!


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Re: [Orgmode] Results of the SourceForge Community Award

2009-07-24 Thread Greg Newman
That's not great news but in my book, org won.  Thanks for the update
Bastien.

On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 6:56 AM, Bastien bastiengue...@googlemail.comwrote:

 Hi all,

 the results of the SCCA 2009 have been announced and the winner in our
 category is portableapps.com, a platform to carry computer programs on
 a USB key.

 Org-mode didn't win but it was really great to participate and to have
 all these nice contributions from so many people!

 A big thanks to all of you.

 Let's keep making Org a tool which changes the way _we_ do everything :)

 --
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Re: [Orgmode] Results of the SourceForge Community Award

2009-07-24 Thread jemarch

   the results of the SCCA 2009 have been announced and the winner in our
   category is portableapps.com, a platform to carry computer programs on 
   a USB key.

Blah :P

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Re: [Orgmode] Results of the SourceForge Community Award

2009-07-24 Thread Manish
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Bastien wrote:

 Hi all,

 the results of the SCCA 2009 have been announced and the winner in our
 category is portableapps.com, a platform to carry computer programs on
 a USB key.

 Org-mode didn't win but it was really great to participate and to have
 all these nice contributions from so many people!

 A big thanks to all of you.

I regularly use both PortableApps.com and Org-mode extensively. IMHO, we lost
to a worthy opponent.



 Let's keep making Org a tool which changes the way _we_ do everything :)

Yeah.  My sincere thanks to Carsten, you and all the contributors.

Best regards
-- 
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Re: [Orgmode] Results of the SourceForge Community Award

2009-07-24 Thread Russell Adams
Maybe we should make a portable org-mode! ;]

On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 05:07:14PM +0530, Manish wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Bastien wrote:
 
  Hi all,
 
  the results of the SCCA 2009 have been announced and the winner in our
  category is portableapps.com, a platform to carry computer programs on
  a USB key.
 
  Org-mode didn't win but it was really great to participate and to have
  all these nice contributions from so many people!
 
  A big thanks to all of you.
 
 I regularly use both PortableApps.com and Org-mode extensively. IMHO, we lost
 to a worthy opponent.
 
 
 
  Let's keep making Org a tool which changes the way _we_ do everything :)
 
 Yeah.  My sincere thanks to Carsten, you and all the contributors.
 
 Best regards
 -- 
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Re: [Orgmode] Results of the SourceForge Community Award

2009-07-24 Thread Chris Willard
On Fri, 24 Jul 2009, Russell Adams wrote:

 Maybe we should make a portable org-mode! ;]
[snip (50 lines)]

All ready using it on my USB stick!

TTFN


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