Re: Automatic Org-mode mailing list signature -- Was: [O] Let's stick to one list for now

2011-03-03 Thread Bastien
Hi Achim,

Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de writes:

 Somehow you also seem to have confused the mailing list software about
 the mailing list tag in the subject line: it doesn't correctly strip and
 re-insert it anymore on reply, so you get Re: [O] and [O] Re: and
 more variations on that theme.  

It was a problem before.

 Last but not least Gmane hasn't caught
 on to that and now starts to show the [O] tag whereas [Orgmode] was
 always correctly stripped on the newsfeed.  I can configure all of that
 away in Gnus, but I don't really see this as an improvement.

I wrote to Lars Ingebrigtsen asking him if there is something I need to
update on Gmane side.  

Thanks for pointing this,

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Re: Automatic Org-mode mailing list signature -- Was: [O] Let's stick to one list for now

2011-03-02 Thread Bastien
Hi Eric,

Eric Schulte schulte.e...@gmail.com writes:

 While there are changes to the administration of the mailing list.
 Would it be difficult to change the list signature from

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Done -- except that I used -- , not __ .

--  is the standard separator for signatures.

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Re: Automatic Org-mode mailing list signature -- Was: [O] Let's stick to one list for now

2011-03-02 Thread Achim Gratz
Bastien b...@altern.org writes:
 Done -- except that I used -- , not __ .

 --  is the standard separator for signatures.

Yes, but the mailing list banner is not a signature.  You will now have
(by default) two signatures when replying, of which only the mailing
list banner gets stripped by the MUA.  Like this:
 
 -- 
  Bastien

... and that should not happen.

Somehow you also seem to have confused the mailing list software about
the mailing list tag in the subject line: it doesn't correctly strip and
re-insert it anymore on reply, so you get Re: [O] and [O] Re: and
more variations on that theme.  Last but not least Gmane hasn't caught
on to that and now starts to show the [O] tag whereas [Orgmode] was
always correctly stripped on the newsfeed.  I can configure all of that
away in Gnus, but I don't really see this as an improvement.


Achim.
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Re: Automatic Org-mode mailing list signature -- Was: [O] Let's stick to one list for now

2011-03-02 Thread suvayu ali
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de wrote:
 Somehow you also seem to have confused the mailing list software about
 the mailing list tag in the subject line: it doesn't correctly strip and
 re-insert it anymore on reply, so you get Re: [O] and [O] Re: and
 more variations on that theme.

I think this was present even before the change. For an example look
at this[1] (random) page from the archive. I have a feeling this
behaviour depends on the responders MUA.

[1] http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2010-06/threads.html

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Automatic Org-mode mailing list signature -- Was: [O] Let's stick to one list for now

2011-02-28 Thread Eric Schulte
While there are changes to the administration of the mailing list.
Would it be difficult to change the list signature from

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(note the space after the double hyphen) at the beginning of the second
signature.  I /believe/ (but don't have any reference) that the -- 
string is the standard signature delimiter, and it would result in at
least gnus, and probably other mailing agents, stripping the signature
from replies by default.

This isn't a huge deal, but it would reduce message noise on long
threads.

Best -- Eric

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Re: Automatic Org-mode mailing list signature -- Was: [O] Let's stick to one list for now

2011-02-28 Thread theo
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On 28/02/2011 18:09, Eric Schulte wrote:
 
 (but don't have any reference) that the -- 
 string is the standard signature delimiter, and it would result in at
 least gnus, and probably other mailing agents, stripping the signature
 from replies by default.

http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3676#section-4.3

*4.3.  Usenet Signature Convention*

   There is a long-standing convention in Usenet news which also
   commonly appears in Internet mail of using --  as the separator
   line between the body and the signature of a message.

[...]

   A receiving agent needs to test for a signature line both before the
   test for a quoted line (see Section 4.5) and also after logically
   counting and deleting quote marks and stuffing (see Section 4.4) from
   a quoted line.
- -- 
Freely yours,
theo
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