Re: [Emc-developers] Future Minimum Display Resolution?
displays GCode. It uses gremlin to embed a preview, but you can't interact with it unless you use a mouse or touchscreen. In what way do you want to interact with it? Some things I have done: zooming, changing views, toggling the DRO on and off. I used separate GUI buttons to do this. Panning and rotating I have not tried. That's what I can't do, the GUI buttons. Because I am using X Embed, it is a separate application, so I can't add the standard axis toolbar buttons, for example, to change the view angle, or repaint. -- This SF email is sponsosred by: Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure ___ Emc-developers mailing list Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers
Re: [Emc-developers] Future Minimum Display Resolution?
displays GCode. It uses gremlin to embed a preview, but you can't interact with it unless you use a mouse or touchscreen. In what way do you want to interact with it? Some things I have done: zooming, changing views, toggling the DRO on and off. I used separate GUI buttons to do this. Panning and rotating I have not tried. As for the original question (minimum display) i don't see a push to use more resolution just a natural movement to more recent equipment that allows more resolution. But it's getting closer and close to being able to build your own screen without guru knowledge - so you could build what you needed with effort. For instance if I ever finish Gscreen you could build a different GLADE file for it and it could use a smaller resolution then 1280 x 768 ( you would probably have to do a little python programming to to get it to work as the features would be different) Chris M -- This SF email is sponsosred by: Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure___ Emc-developers mailing list Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers
Re: [Emc-developers] Future Minimum Display Resolution?
I am not sure if this is relevant, but what about small screen mobile devices? I can think of examples where a small hand held wireless device could be useful. The hand held device running the human interface with a PC hardwired to the machine under control. These may not have a very high resolution. Just a thought. Darren On 23/03/2012 6:31 p.m., Kim Kirwan wrote: With 12.04 and 2.5 waiting in the wings, and with new UI's and similar such as GladeVCP, ngcgui, etc., not to mention the disappearance of 4:3 displays in favor of 16:9 or 16:10, I would like to pose a question for the developers: How long will 1024x780 remain a viable screen resolution for LinuxCNC? (I mean before it becomes too inconvenient, as 800x600 has become already, in my opinion.) Or is it already past that? Is 1280x1024 now the practical minimum? (Considering purchasing a 1024x780 touch screen or two.) I am asking here only about things that fill up the screen, not the problem of new vs. old video connectors/cards. Otherwise, all comments and opinions invited! Thanks, Kim -- This SF email is sponsosred by: Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure ___ Emc-developers mailing list Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1518/3810 - Release Date: 08/04/11 Internal Virus Database is out of date. -- This SF email is sponsosred by: Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure ___ Emc-developers mailing list Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers
Re: [Emc-developers] Future Minimum Display Resolution?
Kim Kirwan wrote: With 12.04 and 2.5 waiting in the wings, and with new UI's and similar such as GladeVCP, ngcgui, etc., not to mention the disappearance of 4:3 displays in favor of 16:9 or 16:10, I would like to pose a question for the developers: How long will 1024x780 remain a viable screen resolution for LinuxCNC? (I mean before it becomes too inconvenient, as 800x600 has become already, in my opinion.) Or is it already past that? Is 1280x1024 now the practical minimum? (Considering purchasing a 1024x780 touch screen or two.) I am asking here only about things that fill up the screen, not the problem of new vs. old video connectors/cards. Otherwise, all comments and opinions invited! I think we should think a little about keeping LinuxCNC usable on very small screens, also, as there are some people who have need to use portable systems with smaller screens. Touchy does a good job of that, and I think can be functional down to 640 x 480 or something. Probably Axis can be set up to function on a smaller screen by adjusting font settings, too. Jon -- This SF email is sponsosred by: Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure ___ Emc-developers mailing list Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers
Re: [Emc-developers] Future Minimum Display Resolution?
I've been building pendants that use small 3.2 LCD displays. My first version just used a simple command based interface (fill rectangle, draw straight line, draw text), driven by a python menu add on, which runs in parallel with Axis. (http://www.franksworkshop.com.au/CNC/LathePendant/LathePendant.htm) Version 2 is a high speed USB version that acts like a USB display. When X11 is set up properly, runs as a secondary (or tertiary) display. I've also managed to get one of these (http://www.soundgraph.com/fingervu436-feature-en/) working, including touchscreen. Unfortunately, their resolutions are too low (400x240 and 480x272) to be used with axis, so I've been writing a Qt version. It is data driven - an XML file defines the layout and functionality. Each xml configuration is a screen-set. To keep it flexible, I've got one that looks like axis, one for each of my displays, and I plan to do a Mock3 one. Currently it can do basic functionality - start/stop/pause, load etc. It displays GCode. It uses gremlin to embed a preview, but you can't interact with it unless you use a mouse or touchscreen. It can also embed vismach, and a camera display. It can also use QtScript (JavaScript, no python :). The plan is to build a GUI editor. I've been distracted over the last couple of months. In the next few weeks I'll post a demo, to see if there is any interest in yet another GUI. The current plan is to use it as a secondary display on the pendant, with axis as the primary. It just depends on how much work I feel like doing on it. Another workshop project was to build a monitor slide away draw. I don't have any pictures yet, but I used a AOV e2243Fw2k (http://www.aocmonitorap.com/anz/monitor_306.php) monitor which is 12.9mm thick. It folds down and slides away using only about 20mm of space. Unfortunately to get it to work, I had to remove the stand (where the interface electronics is located), shave off a lot of plastic, and make a new holder for the interface electronics. It worked fine for a while, but now it seems to shutdown every time I fold it out of the way. So, the next version will probably be this (http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/17/gechic-on-lap-1302-portable-monitor-vide o/), which is only 1366x768, so back to the OP, that will be my minimum resolution for axis. -Original Message- From: Darren Conway [mailto:darren.con...@xtra.co.nz] Sent: Friday, 23 March 2012 5:09 PM To: emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] Future Minimum Display Resolution? I am not sure if this is relevant, but what about small screen mobile devices? I can think of examples where a small hand held wireless device could be useful. The hand held device running the human interface with a PC hardwired to the machine under control. These may not have a very high resolution. Just a thought. Darren On 23/03/2012 6:31 p.m., Kim Kirwan wrote: With 12.04 and 2.5 waiting in the wings, and with new UI's and similar such as GladeVCP, ngcgui, etc., not to mention the disappearance of 4:3 displays in favor of 16:9 or 16:10, I would like to pose a question for the developers: How long will 1024x780 remain a viable screen resolution for LinuxCNC? (I mean before it becomes too inconvenient, as 800x600 has become already, in my opinion.) Or is it already past that? Is 1280x1024 now the practical minimum? (Considering purchasing a 1024x780 touch screen or two.) I am asking here only about things that fill up the screen, not the problem of new vs. old video connectors/cards. Otherwise, all comments and opinions invited! Thanks, Kim -- This SF email is sponsosred by: Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure ___ Emc-developers mailing list Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1518/3810 - Release Date: 08/04/11 Internal Virus Database is out of date. -- This SF email is sponsosred by: Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d- msazure ___ Emc-developers mailing list Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers -- This SF email is sponsosred by: Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure ___ Emc-developers mailing list Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers
[Emc-developers] Future Minimum Display Resolution?
With 12.04 and 2.5 waiting in the wings, and with new UI's and similar such as GladeVCP, ngcgui, etc., not to mention the disappearance of 4:3 displays in favor of 16:9 or 16:10, I would like to pose a question for the developers: How long will 1024x780 remain a viable screen resolution for LinuxCNC? (I mean before it becomes too inconvenient, as 800x600 has become already, in my opinion.) Or is it already past that? Is 1280x1024 now the practical minimum? (Considering purchasing a 1024x780 touch screen or two.) I am asking here only about things that fill up the screen, not the problem of new vs. old video connectors/cards. Otherwise, all comments and opinions invited! Thanks, Kim -- This SF email is sponsosred by: Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure ___ Emc-developers mailing list Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers
