Re: [Emc-developers] Quick update on the status of the Debian package
On 2022-04-07 17:43, Rod Webster wrote: It really is awesome that you've got us this far and its been fascinating to watch the journey in the back end of Debian. Thank you for all your hard work! I don't have anything useful to contribute right now, but I wanted to say how happy I am about the merge into mainstream Linux! Any mention of this on the emc lists makes me smile form ear to ear! Thanks to everyone! Matt ___ Emc-developers mailing list Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers
Re: [Emc-developers] Quick update on the status of the Debian package
Stefan, the tracker shows some Appstream errors and warnings related to missing package metadata in the docs. Is that something that requires our attention? It really is awesome that you've got us this far and its been fascinating to watch the journey in the back end of Debian. Thank you for all your hard work! I am keen to see how it goes on a Pi4 starting with one of the Debian Bullseye ISOs debian has tucked away... https://wiki.debian.org/RaspberryPiImages Maybe Gene can lead the way. Rod Webster *1300 896 832* +61 435 765 611 Vehicle Modifications Network www.vehiclemods.net.au On Fri, 8 Apr 2022 at 01:50, gene heskett wrote: > On Thursday, 7 April 2022 10:54:41 EDT Steffen Möller wrote: > > On 07.04.22 16:26, andy pugh wrote: > > > On Thu, 7 Apr 2022 at 15:07, Steffen Möller > wrote: > > >> LinuxCNC built for 14 different platforms > > >> > > >> (https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=linuxcnc) and while > > >> RISC V likely has everyone's attention, IBM's big iron s390x seems > > >> less interesting for us. > > > > > > Is that really saying that we can run LinuxCNC on a Motorola 68k in a > > > classic Mac? > > > (What I am really asking about here is the realtime kernel dependency > > > part) > > I am a bit rusty here but a memory management unit is required which is > > only available starting with the 68030? Or the 68020 with an extra > > chip? Yip > > https://www.macworld.com/article/220967/how-to-install-linux-on-a-vinta > > ge-68k-mac.html > > > > The M68k has a name for realtime computing but I have no idea about how > > much of that is made available for a regular Linux. > > > My guess is firm no Steffan. A lot has changed I'm sure, but the last > time I tried to boot linux on a PP 68040 board in an A2000 amiga, with > 64 megs of dram on the PP card, it treated the 68040 like a 68000, or > ran on the mobo's 68000 and could not find but 500k of video memory. > Didn't even find the 2 megs of dram on the commie scsi card. The 68000 > then ran at 7 mhz. > > Took it over a minute of swapping to show me an ls of /. That was quite > some years back up the log, the pi3b has MUCH more real power than the > plain M68k. > > I rebooted to amigdos3.1 as linux was not then usefull on m68k' > > Cheers, Gene Heskett. > -- > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) > If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. > - Louis D. Brandeis > > > > > > ___ > Emc-developers mailing list > Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers > ___ Emc-developers mailing list Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers
Re: [Emc-developers] Quick update on the status of the Debian package
On Thursday, 7 April 2022 10:54:41 EDT Steffen Möller wrote: > On 07.04.22 16:26, andy pugh wrote: > > On Thu, 7 Apr 2022 at 15:07, Steffen Möller wrote: > >> LinuxCNC built for 14 different platforms > >> > >> (https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=linuxcnc) and while > >> RISC V likely has everyone's attention, IBM's big iron s390x seems > >> less interesting for us. > > > > Is that really saying that we can run LinuxCNC on a Motorola 68k in a > > classic Mac? > > (What I am really asking about here is the realtime kernel dependency > > part) > I am a bit rusty here but a memory management unit is required which is > only available starting with the 68030? Or the 68020 with an extra > chip? Yip > https://www.macworld.com/article/220967/how-to-install-linux-on-a-vinta > ge-68k-mac.html > > The M68k has a name for realtime computing but I have no idea about how > much of that is made available for a regular Linux. > My guess is firm no Steffan. A lot has changed I'm sure, but the last time I tried to boot linux on a PP 68040 board in an A2000 amiga, with 64 megs of dram on the PP card, it treated the 68040 like a 68000, or ran on the mobo's 68000 and could not find but 500k of video memory. Didn't even find the 2 megs of dram on the commie scsi card. The 68000 then ran at 7 mhz. Took it over a minute of swapping to show me an ls of /. That was quite some years back up the log, the pi3b has MUCH more real power than the plain M68k. I rebooted to amigdos3.1 as linux was not then usefull on m68k' Cheers, Gene Heskett. -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis ___ Emc-developers mailing list Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers
Re: [Emc-developers] Quick update on the status of the Debian package
On Thu, 7 Apr 2022 at 15:56, Steffen Möller wrote: > https://www.macworld.com/article/220967/how-to-install-linux-on-a-vintage-68k-mac.html > > The M68k has a name for realtime computing but I have no idea about how > much of that is made available for a regular Linux. I think I might have a hoarding problem. I am fairly sure that there should be an LC475 lurking somewhere around the house, but I can't find it. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics." — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912 ___ Emc-developers mailing list Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers
Re: [Emc-developers] Quick update on the status of the Debian package
On 07.04.22 16:26, andy pugh wrote: On Thu, 7 Apr 2022 at 15:07, Steffen Möller wrote: LinuxCNC built for 14 different platforms (https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=linuxcnc) and while RISC V likely has everyone's attention, IBM's big iron s390x seems less interesting for us. Is that really saying that we can run LinuxCNC on a Motorola 68k in a classic Mac? (What I am really asking about here is the realtime kernel dependency part) I am a bit rusty here but a memory management unit is required which is only available starting with the 68030? Or the 68020 with an extra chip? Yip https://www.macworld.com/article/220967/how-to-install-linux-on-a-vintage-68k-mac.html The M68k has a name for realtime computing but I have no idea about how much of that is made available for a regular Linux. ___ Emc-developers mailing list Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers
Re: [Emc-developers] Quick update on the status of the Debian package
On Thu, 7 Apr 2022 at 15:07, Steffen Möller wrote: > LinuxCNC built for 14 different platforms > (https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=linuxcnc) and while RISC > V likely has everyone's attention, IBM's big iron s390x seems less > interesting for us. Is that really saying that we can run LinuxCNC on a Motorola 68k in a classic Mac? (What I am really asking about here is the realtime kernel dependency part) -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics." — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912 ___ Emc-developers mailing list Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers
Re: [Emc-developers] Quick update on the status of the Debian package
the linker errors on arm look like a wrong oder of libs in the build system. On 07.04.22 16:04, Steffen Möller wrote: Hello, I have mentioned this on Rod's github issue on his package woes (https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/issues/1692) but some more of you may want to to have a look. The LinuxCNC Debian packaging needed to adapt to the partial builds (documentation is only built once, not for all of Debian's platforms) of the Debian autobuilders but now it is fine. LinuxCNC built for 14 different platforms (https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=linuxcnc) and while RISC V likely has everyone's attention, IBM's big iron s390x seems less interesting for us. If nothing happens then the package is expected to migrate to testing within the next 5 days. The "package tracker" on https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/linuxcnc gives a good overview. If it is easy for you then some feedback would be nice. For me, this is just some technical exercise, still. Please do not use this version in production. Best, Steffen ___ Emc-developers mailing list Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers ___ Emc-developers mailing list Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers
[Emc-developers] Quick update on the status of the Debian package
Hello, I have mentioned this on Rod's github issue on his package woes (https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/issues/1692) but some more of you may want to to have a look. The LinuxCNC Debian packaging needed to adapt to the partial builds (documentation is only built once, not for all of Debian's platforms) of the Debian autobuilders but now it is fine. LinuxCNC built for 14 different platforms (https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=linuxcnc) and while RISC V likely has everyone's attention, IBM's big iron s390x seems less interesting for us. If nothing happens then the package is expected to migrate to testing within the next 5 days. The "package tracker" on https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/linuxcnc gives a good overview. If it is easy for you then some feedback would be nice. For me, this is just some technical exercise, still. Please do not use this version in production. Best, Steffen ___ Emc-developers mailing list Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers
